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  • Jumpship
    Jumpship Member Posts: 305
    edited August 2015

    I need some advice. Would you PM me if you have any? I'm still taking Herceptin, and Tamoxifen, plus a growing number of supplements. The dentist wants to root canal a tooth because it doesn't feel any cold so he thinks it's dead. I don't have any pain or swelling. Is now the time to have it? Should I wait until I'm done with Herceptin? The biggie is if I do it will the cancer reoccur? I've read that if there is an infection at the root they can never really get it. The tooth is on the same meridian as the breast. Wondering what Chinese medicine would say to do. This is all keeping me up at night.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited August 2015

    suldog my MO's NP told me at chemo training I would get the big D. I told her probably the big C. We know our bodies and how they behave. We've lived with them for so long.

    JenPam my LE is very minor. I wear my sleeve. I'm careful about what I lift/carry but not too bad. The trick is to wear the sleeve and exercise. You may need to talk to a specialist about your diving. Don't say no yet.

    minivan check with your oncologist. I know I had several reconstruction surgeries when on Herceptin. S/he may want you to take an antibiotic before you get the root canal to avoid infection.

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited August 2015

    Hi Ginger, and welcome . . . you've found a great resource. I'm a teacher, too; we can compare notes re: TCHP and teaching full-time.

    There are so many wordsmiths, here! (I was an English major, myself. . . )


  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited August 2015

    So, I had a PET scan on Thursday. It was to check on a spot that lit up on two previous PET scans. (It's my femoral neck, a bone in the hip area.) MO thought that the hip was a really odd place for a single met to surface, but she wants to be thorough. Today, I found my PET scan results on the hospital portal. It reads "Left proximal femur lesion is stable and remains concerning for metastatic disease." Otherwise, everything is clear. I will see MO in a few weeks; she will probably order a biopsy. If it's a met, it's survived five months of chemo and six months of hormonal therapy. If it's not a met, what could it be? By the way, my left hip doesn't hurt and I'm not hypercalcemic (according to recent blood tests).

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited August 2015

    ElaineTherese I'm sure your MO will explain this to you. Does seem strange. I know they saw 4 areas in my liver before chemo. Scanned again after chemo then 1 and 2 years later. One went away and the others remained stable so convinced they were cysts. Last scan almost 2 years ago.

    "concerning" doesn't mean "IS"

  • Stephmoen
    Stephmoen Member Posts: 563
    edited August 2015

    I am also having a pet scan the 26 this month because I had a focal spot in my liver slightly light up pre chemo but the corresponding ct scan showed no lesion so my drs are convinced it's nothing but obviously we want to be sure..pet scans are scary the fact they aren't 100percent reliable..would a bone scan show anything different that could confirm metastasis

  • jumbledbamboo
    jumbledbamboo Member Posts: 158
    edited August 2015

    Hello! I am triple pos. I need support and info. I have been in a way denying all this. Just going through it and then having brief perioss of trying to deal with it and looking away again. I have had my mastectomy, completed my big chemo and doing herceptn. Part of my issue is that I had a stroke 4 years ago so this is just so much to think of and try to remember. Anyway and I'm trying. I had 2 tumors. One was and the other fast. the large was 3.5. I have headaches all the time but they are worse lately. maybe the herceptin. Also bodyaches. I look forward to all the info and have read lots already

  • Suladog
    Suladog Member Posts: 952
    edited August 2015

    Jen,

    I make my own ice cream, and have for years except during chemo when I found it easier to by a bit of Three Twins... They very kindly sent me a bunch of certificates for free ice cream!!

    Btw, following the le conversation, I had 18 nodes removed 25 yrs ago and never developed le ...in fact no one even mentioned it to me back then! I was doing all sorts of stuff they probably tell people not to do and nobody ever said anything. This time They only removed one or two nodes and so far so good

  • MMay
    MMay Member Posts: 27
    edited August 2015

    Jen-The clinic where I see my MO and receive my treatments is 85 miles away from where I live. But I work at a medical clinic in the town I live and they would just do my shots there. I ended up not getting the Neupogen on Friday as my wbc was fine. So I decided to hold off. My MO was on vacation so I couldn't ask him if that was ok to wait.

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited August 2015

    Jumbled, welcome! Have you mentioned your headaches and bodyaches to MO? Does he/she have any suggestions for alleviating them? Hope you feel better soon!

    lago, thanks for sharing your experience and for being the voice of reason. I know that PET scans often pick up on benign conditions, but my MO likes to talk about scary scenarios too much for my taste. I knew that someone in this thread would talk me off the ledge.

    Stephmoen, good luck with your PET! I'm not sure what a bone scan would reveal; I will ask MO about that.

  • Stephmoen
    Stephmoen Member Posts: 563
    edited August 2015

    Elainetherese I don't like the way I worded that "confirm mestastasis"I meant prove that it's not mestastasis but I too do not know what a bone scan shows I've never had one..good luck to you as well!!

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited August 2015

    No worries, Stephmoen; I knew what you meant. If doing a few more scans would help figure things out, I'd be for doing them. I've read descriptions of bone biopsies and they don't sound like too much fun.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited August 2015

    jumbledbamboo do mention the headaches to your MO (medical oncologist). There is a chance it is from Herceptin. See if they can slow down the infusion to 60 or 90 minutes. It has helped others.
    BTW I did similar treatment to you except more nodes removed and BMX. I didn't have node involvement but had a really big tumor (5.5 cm IDC + 1 cm DCIS). August 31st will be 5 years since my surgery (did surgery first). I didn't even get perjeta. There is a good chance you'll be OK. What (ESD) estrogen sucking drug are they putting you on?

  • JenPam
    JenPam Member Posts: 176
    edited August 2015

    Gingersnappy, yes, I took the Neupogen injections home with me. I picked up seven doses at once & put them in a cooler until I could put them in my fridge. Each evening, I took out a dose 30 minutes prior to using, and then my husband did the injections.

    I have a lymphedema question: if someone hasn't developed LE yet, should she wear a sleeve as a preventative measure or is that overkill?


  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited August 2015

    JenPam you should not wear a sleeve if you don't have LE except maybe for flying and/or weight lifting but even that is debatable. Granted I do wear when I fly and lift weights on both my LE and my as risk arm. My LE arm had 10 nodes no radiation. My good arm only had 4 nodes removed. Since I did get LE in one arm I do feel I am at a higher risk for the other. Also I have a family predisposition to LE.

    Read this: linky

  • geewhiz
    geewhiz Member Posts: 1,439
    edited August 2015

    JenPam - I agree with Lago...don't give up on diving yet. I have a friend who has lymphedema in Germany and her doc has her in the pool several times a week for it. The water pressure moves the lymph system quite efficiently. I am not certain of the ramifications of more pressure from deeper diving...but it's definitely worth looking into!

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited August 2015

    Good morning ladies. Newbies--this is the best thread ever. Really. Everyone reacts differently-despite what the literature says. My plan was to have a bilateral with new perkies in July of '12, chemo and rads finished by no later than Nov '12, and done by the end of the year. I was freaking delusional. But three years later I remain on the right side of dirt. I remind myself of that often.

    I had 23 nodes removed on my R side and 8 or 18 on the L. I bought sleeves with the intent to wear when I fly or travel to higher altitudes or when I was supposed to for other reasons. I thought about purchasing a couple of the fancy smancy sleeves. Nope to all. Wore them a few times and quit. So far am good. LE is almost one of the ONLY side-effects I have not had during this windy road.

    Working. I worked throughout and am still. The day I had THE mammo, I signed a contract to serve as Dean of Health, and found out about the squalid cesspool of an ex-husband. I was still teaching a couple of nursing theory courses but was able to schedule chemo on days I was not in class or in the myriad meetings I was attending. My building had multiple labs with beds, stretchers, or gurneys-plenty of choices for a nap if needed. And, almost every faculty member had initials behind their name so I could have my port accessed for fluids. I recently resigned as Dean and returned to Nursing Program Director. I can still schedule appointments, IV iron, scans, easily. Students wore masks if they were coughing, sneezing, or whatever. My MO did ban me from health care facilities as a clinical person due to the risk of my being infected. I went to my office with drains after both surgeries. BUT-I knew it was mentally healthier for me to go to work then stay home and mope. That and my German heritage. Everyone should do what is best for them. Just them. Not them and their family. Just them.

    Well, I went to see a GI guy Friday because of my continued low blood counts and pervasive anemia. Did not like this guy at all. Will be interviewing another soon. He went through the song and dance of what I should have done--upper, lower, swallow, and almost chew and spit. I-again-reviewed my history and symptoms. He did state he did not think I had gut cancer or anything serious but wanted me to go through the onslaught of testing to prove. I asked about management and he got snippy and snotty "I certainly do not intend to discuss management with you when you will not understand what I am saying until I have to". Hmm. Clearly he did not read my social history. I thanked him for his time and said I would ponder the conversation. Then...l turned into the psych nurse and was able to get him to discuss his personal story-marriage, divorce, children, plans. I learned more about him than he knew about me. I then put on my lab coat and turned to leave. He looked and said "Oh your are medical". I responded-"That makes a difference in your practice". And left. Jerk.

    Nausea. I swear by Emend. Expensive but my pharmacist was able to get coupons to decrease my cost from $500 to $50 each cycle. I react to Zofran-the killer headaches. Emend was the best. Also used steroids and lorazapam.

    Neupogen versus Neulesta. I had both. Used Claritin starting a couple days before until a couple days after chemo. I do not know if it worked because I used it everytime. I still had joint and bone pain though.

    It doesn't matter how you look at this-it is a bitch. Every. Single. Day. This thread helped pull me through the nastiest of days, the women are my dear friends, I can say anything here and not be judged or criticized. I worry about those I have not seen post. Such as PBrain--where is she? This is real. This is family.

  • MMay
    MMay Member Posts: 27
    edited August 2015

    KateB79 and Gretagirl how are you two holding up?

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited August 2015

    Thanks, susan. I always feel better when I read more about you, I wish one of these days I could come see you. I bet we would have a nice time! I do wonder about pbrain too, I hope she shows up soon, just to say hi

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited August 2015

    I'm hanging in there. Constipated, dry-eyed, and a little scared, but doing pretty okay. Thanks for asking!

    Honestly, the physical part of this has been easier than the psychological part. I thought that getting through the first infusion would give me a great burst of inner strength, but I'm having a hard time not worrying about the future or wondering what SEs are still to come. I hate feeling like this, but I'm confident that it will pass in time. At least I hope it does. I miss my old life, if that makes sense.

    Off to a gentle yoga class. It always comes at the right time.

  • MMay
    MMay Member Posts: 27
    edited August 2015

    Kate...I feel ya! The psychological part has been hard for me too! I also have said many times "I miss my old life" the time when my brain was not filled with all of this all the time. We can do it and you will rally in a few days. I was on this site after my first one asking for support because I was so scared I was never going to feel good again and wondered what would happen next. The ladies talked me through it and even told me what days were the worst. For me it was day 3,4 and 5 and then I started to come around again. Others had said day 3 to 10 were tough. I'm very impressed that youre going to yoga. I don't think I could have after my first one. I did go for a walk this morning and that helped. Hang in there

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited August 2015

    Thanks, MMay! The kind words really do go a long way. Yoga helped today; it was nice to get into a quiet space in my brain, instead of the 'oh my god, cancer' space I've been in. I think I'll try to make more of a point to relax and meditate at home.

    Life will get to a new normal, this I know. Right now I'm just worried because I expected to feel SO much worse than I do, so it's like waiting for the other shoe to drop. Cue my inner optimist; she needs to show up soon to remind me how lucky I am to be doing yoga three days post TCHP. :

  • Mommato3
    Mommato3 Member Posts: 633
    edited August 2015

    Elaine, I was told a Pet scan picks up all kinds of stuff that are benign. What does your MO say? The fact that it didn't change at all during chemo mean that it's probably benign? I would think that it would have changed in size if it wasn't. My Mo is going to try and get a Pet approved through insurance due to a cyst on my right ovary and an issue I've had with my hip since about three weeks before the end of chemo. Very frustrating!

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited August 2015

    Mommato3,

    Yes, PET scans are known for finding benign conditions. I've calmed down a little since yesterday, and will wait to see what MO says at our next appointment. (I spent too much time on Dr. Google yesterday.) Yes, you'd think that if it was cancer, chemo and maybe hormonal therapy would have had an impact on this hip thing. But, MO notes that cancer can change its profile when it finds a new home. So, maybe this hip thing hasn't reacted to treatment because it isn't responsive to the treatment that dissolved my primary tumor. Who knows. This hip thing has been there since I was diagnosed. I've lived a year without knowing what it is; I can wait another two weeks or so, if it comes to that. Hope you get your PET scan approved soon!

  • Mommato3
    Mommato3 Member Posts: 633
    edited August 2015

    Elaine, yes, it can change profile but from what I've read it isn't that often. IF it switched to triple negative, AC-T is a common treatment that is given. It still sounds benign but I understand how stressful it is not to know

    I just wish this weird feeling in my hip would go away again. My MO doesn't believe it's cancer related but doesn't know what it is. The Pet is mostly for the cyst on my ovary so we can say 100% that it's benign before I have an ooph next month. I had an X-ray done on my hip in the spring. Everything looked good. It didn't detect any injury either. We both think it's exercise related...after I had sat on the couch for several months during treatment. Not trying to say I sat ALL the time but it was a lot!! 😉 It finally went away after I wasn't able to run for six weeks after my exchange/lift. Then it came back after I sat for a long time in the car for a few vacations that were back to back. It doesn't hurt which makes it even more confusing. Anyone else have an idea of what it could be?

  • jumbledbamboo
    jumbledbamboo Member Posts: 158
    edited August 2015

    Elainthere I am going to make an appointment as I just find out my MO is moving to another part of the practice and I will have a new doctor. Not only that, I woke up and my right arm is swollen and huge. Then the tips of my left hand fingers started tingling and that is ongoing on the stroke side, great.

    Lagp- IDK yet what drug they are wanting to use. I need to get on that! I was still naive and thought I just had needed surgery so at that last visit I didn't even ask what the name of the drug was

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited August 2015

    Tomboy--lets meet someplace. Pull in some of the others. I would like that. Much.


  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited August 2015

    jumbled! OY about your arm! Have you been checked for lymphedema? The tingling -- could be neuropathy. I developed mild neuropathy while on Taxol, but it went away once I stopped chemo. Plus all the headaches? Man, you're getting some irritating side-effects!

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited August 2015

    The New Normal.

    About three weeks after I was diagnosed I was listening to the Dr. Radio (yes I am that person--total geek) oncology show (no longer on) and the guest was about 6 years post dx. The show was on The New Normal-or as she said-you never go back. She talked about taking 5-years to come to the point of actually feeling she was not just Ok but good and accepting of The New Normal. She talked about losing her hair and then how it felt when it grew back and almost feeling resentful of having to "do" her hair. And people asking when she would be the way she used to be and wanting to do great bodily harm. I cried as I listened because first I knew statistically I would be lucky to make it a year and 5-years was forever, and, never. Now I am 3-years and I am not yet at a new normal. But I am on the right side of dirt. My hair fell out 3 times. For some reason I still have chemo curls and can wash and wear. My hairdresser knows I do not want to "do" anything to it that takes time. Time is precious and I am not about my hair. Or my absent lack of breasts. That is me. I do wish my Femera belly would go away though. That is the shallow me.

    Love you guys.

  • jumbledbamboo
    jumbledbamboo Member Posts: 158
    edited August 2015

    ElaineTheresa- It is crazy annoying! I am only on Herceptin infusions at this point, so what gives? Agh... I feel like charlie brown lol. I am just going to call tomorrow and see what they say. My whole experience since this and the stroke has shown me that lots of times you can get a shrug and a "lets see how you feel in a week" answer. Glad I am feeling more up tp talking to this board. You all have lots of info. I truly am confused about my fingers. seems late in the game. I take gabapentin for my stroke already so I am not sure about this se

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