My 36yo Wife is scheduled for a BMX in 2 weeks how can I help?

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soscaredhubby
soscaredhubby Member Posts: 45

Hi,

I am the husband of a wonderful, super awesome woman who was diagnosed with breast cancer a couple months ago. She has had many tests and one major scare where they found spots on her liver which turned out to be fine. We have been very frustrated with how long this whole thing has taken. I believe my wife said it will be 72 days from diagnosis to surgery. Has anyone else waited that long? The lymph nodes in her arm pit were fine when we started out, but have become sore in the last month. It may be from the breast and liver biopsy, but it is still concerning. We learned our lesson not to jump to conclusions after the liver scare. I left my job a year ago to go back to school, so my wife is the only one working at the moment. I am going to be her caretaker while she is recovering from her surgery and going through chemo. I was just wondering if anyone can tell us what to expect and give me any tips on how I can care for her. Her company has set her up so she can work from home when she needs to. How long would it be until she can do that? We also have season tickets for Oregon Ducks football, which is one of our favorite things to do in life. I have been wondering if I should sell the tickets? I would hate to get rid of them and then she ends up wanting to go to a few games. But her surgery is 8/21 and she will start chemo right after healing. How active will she be able to be this fall? I know everyone is different, I'm just trying to get an idea of what lies ahead for us. Thank you for any advice. I want to help her heal and overcome this as best as I possibly can.

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  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited August 2015

    Everybody's response to chemo is different. She may be fine and be able to go to work or social events, but not me. I was stuck on the couch through chemo,very weak,  food tasted horrible, and I was uncharacteristically bitchy. I love my husband even more for how he tended to me and put up with the moodiness. 

    What you can do to help is just be there to pick up the slack and do the chores she normally does without asking. Let her sleep, a lot. 

    When the "chemo brain" sets in and she does stupid stuff like putting the flashlight in the refrigerator, don't mention it. 

    Know that somedays your just not going to win. No matter how many ways you try to tell her she is loved and beautiful, she'll still cry. It takes us awhile to get used to our new bodies.

    Most important let her vent anyway she needs to, cry, yell, blame, complain but don't try to fix it. You can't.  

    Understand you may on occasion be the target of some harsh emotions that aren't really meant for you, you're just standing the closest to her so you get the fallout. Walk away, come back later when she's feeling better. Bring chocolate (or whatever her taste buds are able to tolerate).

    Blessings to you and your wife.

  • anotherNYCGirl
    anotherNYCGirl Member Posts: 1,033
    edited August 2015

    Dear Hubby, - She will do fine. Sounds like she has a great guy and huge support system already!

    It's hard to say how long her recoup time will be, or how she will feel on chemo without knowing if she is having immediate reconstruction, and what type of chemo she will be on.

    Even then, people do react differently. Some drs or organizations give out a bag with items that are helpful after surgery, such as little pillows to tuck under arms those first days, and even a bar of soap because it may be difficult to press a soap dispenser, etc. You will need to help her with anything that requires arm strength or stretching during the early days after surgery. I needed my husband to help me get dressed, and to wash my hair in the sink. (Someone gave a salon type cape for me to put on to stay dry.)

    Many people do just fine on chemo, returning to work and maintaining activities. Can you keep the tickets and sell game by game if she isnt up to attending? Also, it may be good for you to go with a friend some days, and give yourself a break while she relaxes at home!

    She will find all sorts of answers on these boards, if she has a question!

    Hugs to you both!



  • inks
    inks Member Posts: 746
    edited August 2015

    I was 36 as well at diagnosis ( turned 37 before surgery). It took me almost 2 months from diagnosis to surgery, I had to wait for genetic test results. Did your wife have BRCA testing done? My double mastectomy with tissue expander placement was very easy, out of the hospital in less than 24hr. Your wife should be able to resume her work from home 3 days after surgery given her age and that she has no complications from surgery and is in great shape otherwise. She may need help emptying her drains and reaching for things on high shelves but she can cook and care for herself just fine. I had a 18 month old at the time and I managed fine, I went to the gym up to halfway through the chemo, so very few limitations. She is going to need something to cheer her up, so don't sell the season tickets. Wishing you and your wife the best!

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited August 2015

    I can't address the chemo issue, not having been through that, but definitely hang onto the Ducks tickets. (Had friends in Eugene--go Ducks!) For me, the 'something to look forward to' was our first opera of the season, but having that something has been a goal for me to aim for.

  • soscaredhubby
    soscaredhubby Member Posts: 45
    edited August 2015

    Thanks everyone for your input. I want to be as prepared as possible for what lies ahead to make things as smooth as possible for my wife.

    Debiann- Thank you for sharing your experience. I know it's not going to be easy. It's going to break my heart to watch her go through all that, but I will keep in mind what she is going through and support her the best I can. She has been put on Tamoxifen prior to surgery because I complained about how long the surgery was taking. She has been handling that pretty well, but there have been some mood swings in recent days. It's likely the stress coupled with the medication, but I am learning to be careful about when it's OK to talk about this stuff with her and when I need to shut up about it.

    anotherNYCGirl- Thank you for your comments. I will add pillows and a salon cape to the shopping list I am making for her. She is having reconstruction as well. The Dr. has told us the expanders will be painful. I believe the chemo plan is 8 weeks of Taxol followed by 12 weeks of Abraxane. I could be wrong about that. We have the notes from the oncologist, but I don't have them in front of me right now. We could try and sell the tickets game by game, it's just easier to sell as a package because the first couple games that we will definitely miss are "cupcake" games, so they aren't really in high demand. I have thought about going to the games and asking her mother to come over and stay with her, but we have so many memories together in that stadium, I don't know if I will able to enjoy myself knowing she is in pain at home. I am leaning towards keeping the tickets because I want her to have that option of having a welcome distraction instead of feeling like she is missing out.

    inks- Thank you for sharing that. I know everyone is different, but it's good to know that some people are able to overcome most of the limitations. She did have the BRCA test done. They did it a while ago but our insurance company rejected it and then she had to wait to talk to a genetic counselor. We are still waiting for the results. They should come back right before our surgery date. It's better if she doesn't have the gene right? I mean, she has cancer either way, but I am not sure if it's better that they know why this happened, or if it's better it was just a freak thing? She is in good shape.Our friends and family have all said if there had been a vote as to who this might happen prior to this diagnosis, she would have been in last. She had been the healthiest person I knew before this. We have no idea how this happened. She had been on birth control for many years, but the doctors say that didn't cause it, but did feed the cancer once she got it. We had been planning to get pregnant this year, we have an appointment with the fertility people next week, but we don't hold out much hope for that. Since her cancer is hormone positive, we don't want to increase the risk of it coming back.

    Queenmomcat- We are leaning towards keeping them. I just saw that our running back is now out for the year. Ugh. Good thing we have 2 great running backs! Go Ducks!

    Thank you all for for your comments and wishing us the best! We wish you all the best as well. I have tried to get my wife to post on here but she likes to distract herself from all this when she can. When she is willing to talk about it, I do tell her about your experiences and advice. It is all very much appreciated.

    *Hugs

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited August 2015


    Hubby:  you are a really supportive man!  Everyone is very individual as to recovery time from surgery. Since she works from home, she may be able to go back sooner than many. Especially if she can do flex-time.  Work 2 hours, take a nap,, work 2 more hours, etc.  Don't know if that's possible for her, but something to ask about. Gradually increase work time as able.

    I would keep the tickets too. Sounds like a very important thing that you do together. You don't know when she'll feel up to it or not, so I think keeping them and then selling individual games would be the way to go. It might perk her up emotionally to get to a game.

    I didn't have chemo, so I have no advice there, but if you go on the CHEMO forum, and look for others on her regimen, you will be able to get advice.  Ditto with the surgery, and recon.  On the surgery site, I believe there is a thread called "Things you need for surgery" or something like that.   Let me go look and bump it up for you.

    It's a stressful time for you both. I wish you all the best.  There is tons of support here and always someone who can answer your questions.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited August 2015
  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited August 2015

    Great advice above. I would add to just hold her hand from time to time, sometimes better than trying to say the right thing; give her a foot or leg massage (if she enjoys them) when fatigue from chemo/surgery lays her a low. Sometimes little things can mean a lot.

    Oh, and I'd definitely hang on to the tickets - when she's up to it, doing something 'normal' is great.

    You will do fine, I'm sure. Good luck to you and to your wife



  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited August 2015

    Hey, you sound like a wonderful husband! I'm so sorry your wife is going through this. As far as surgery goes, I didn't do recon, but had a double mx. Showering was the hardest part, especially the first time I saw my incisions. I passed out. She will be pretty wobbly for a few days, so a shower seat or a bucket to sit on will help. Washing her hair will be tough. If she's doing chemo, she will most likely lose it anyway, so a short haircut befor surgery would make her life easier. That said, hair loss is very emotional, so if she doesn't want to do it, just be ready to help her wash it. I'd keep the tickets! She may feel like going to a game! I didn't feel horrible on taxol. As far as work goes, probably a day or two after surgery she will feel like typing again. Good luck, and blessings gs to you both!

  • loriyg
    loriyg Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2015

    I think it's awesome you are so concerned! Although I didn't do chemo, my husband took 2 weeks off when I had a bilateral mastectomy June 26. Not sure what I would have done without him! He bought me a "wedge" that was 30 degrees to sleep on and a step stool to get into our bed - I didn't want to sleep on the recliner downstairs. He set his alarm every 4 hours all night to give me crackers and Percocet, even when I insisted I could do it myself. I had my drains for almost a month so he "bathed" me, dried each body part before he started the next so I wasn't cold, put my lotion on (and even asked which one I wanted each day). He washed and dried my hair, did all the cooking, walked the dogs, helped me get dressed, went to all my appointments with me. When I realized my clothes weren't cutting it with the drains, he took me to find a few more tops and helped in the dressing room. He stripped and emptied my drains. He held me when I just wanted to cry (and never told anyone). He kissed me, told me I was beautiful and sexy. That probably meant the most to me. Now as I'm going through the reconstruction process with tissue expanders, he smiles each week when I show him, then asks how bad the pain is that week so he knows how much help I may/may not need

    Just love your wife and you'll do just fine! Keep your tickets.... I made my hubby go play golf on Saturday mornings to give him a break, even though I couldn't go. We have Bronco tickets and with my next surgery in November, I don't expect him to miss a game then!

    Good luck to you both!

    L

  • soscaredhubby
    soscaredhubby Member Posts: 45
    edited August 2015

    Thank you for all the advice.

    Glennie19: Thank you for sharing that list. There are a lot of things on there we didn't think of. The tickets were just shipped today so they are on the way. I know we will at least miss the first one, but we are going to ask friends if they want them. We will hold onto the rest for now. I was concerned about her ability to travel and be outdoors for a long period after surgery or during chemo, but if she feels up to it, it would be nice to go. She should be able to work when she can. She is an accountant. We have talked about her teaching me some of the basics before she goes through chemo just so I can double check her work if she has trouble focusing. She is also planning to go to work when she feels up to it. Her company has arranged it so she can get her hours when she needs to and be flexible. They are also going to do a sick time donation for her so she will have more sick days to take when she isn't able to work at all.

    CatsRus: Thank you for the suggestions. I will do that for her. Good luck to you as well.

    littlebluef: Thank you for the comments. We do have a small bench section in our shower. It is usually covered in her assortment of hair products, but I will clear it off. That is a good suggestion. I don't want her to fall. I mentioned your comment about getting a shorter haircut to her and we are discussing it. We are trying to decide if it's better if I just cut it short for her or we pay for it to be done. I'm sure it would look much better if someone else did it, but on the other hand it's going to fall out anyway. It definitely sounds like it would be much easier to cut her hair short for the surgery.I will likely be helping her wash her hair. Glad to hear the taxol wasn't too horrible. Good luck and blessings to you as well.

    loriyg: Your husband sounds like a good man! I hope to be that for my wife as well. She is my everything. I just want to make things as easy on her as possible and get all the information so we can beat this thing. I think we are keeping the tickets!

    We went to a fertility Doctor appointment today. We aren't really sure what to think. As I mentioned before, we had been planning to get pregnant this year, so we decided to hear them out on what it would take. The biggest issue for us is increased risk. Cost is also a huge factor, but we don't want to increase the risk of it coming back. I was really hoping to hear some success stories or get some solid numbers from them on what the risk is, but we didn't get that. They only told us that there is some risk. My wife is ER+/PR+ HER2-. Does anyone here have any information on this?

    Her surgery is in 11 more days. We are getting nervous about it, but also looking forward to finally getting it out. I know the waiting has been hard on my wife. She is concerned about that lymph node that started to swell in July. She had a lot of pain and side effects from the liver biopsy, so I am thinking that may be the cause, since they told us she may have pain in that area.

    Thanks, and good luck to all of you!

  • 3-16-2011
    3-16-2011 Member Posts: 559
    edited August 2015

    So scared hubby

    Your care and concern is really moving and the best ingredients for being a good care giver. You have been given some great advice here. I will just add a couple of things from my experience.

    Post surgery I struggled. with the drains. I did. not absorb the teaching well when they taught. how to care for the drains. My husband became the drain expert and this was very helpful.

    I was on taxol and had some nausea the day of treatment and low energy, but I did enjoy social outings and worked(sometimes at home bald and barefoot).

    I was treated with tamoxifen and developed depression while taking it. I took antidepressants and it really helped.

    Sending positive energy to you and your wife.

  • Olivia82
    Olivia82 Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2015

    so scared hubby - like everyone's said just by posting this shows how much you care for your wife and I'm sure you'll be a great support. I was 31 when I was diagnosed, I initially had a mastectomy & chemo and after some time to recover I've had a prophylatic mastectomy on the other side. I also have an amazing husband who was brilliant and made all the difference, he's shaved his head for years but somehow managed to do a great job of washing my hair in the sink! He only needed to do this a few weeks post op, the only advantage of having this crappy disease so young is you heal quick so I was pretty independent at 2 weeks and we actually started Fertility treatment a week after my initial op. We harvested some embryos just before I started chemo and my oncologist said I need to be on tamoxifen for 5 years before I have a baby - I was strongly ER+. Chemo really isn't as bad as I thought it would be, we always di d something nice/fun on the 3rd week and it helped the time go by. Let me know if you want to know anything else. Good luck to you both x

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited August 2015

    baby

    Here is a link to a thread about stopping tamoxifen to have a baby. It may be if interest to you. 

    I can understand the fear. I was older at dx, so I can't put myself in your place, but after learning estrogen fueled the cancer it would be difficult to choose to get pregnant. However many women do so successfully.

    I got a cute short haircut as soon as I knew I'd be getting chemo. Its  good idea to ease the transition to bald. When it started falling out (day 15-16 after the first chemo), it really hurt so I got it buzzed. Many salons will buzz a chemo patient's hair for free.

    My husband was my rock through my treatments. I could not have managed without him. You will be your wife's rock too.

  • soscaredhubby
    soscaredhubby Member Posts: 45
    edited August 2015

    Thanks again for all the replies and encouragement. 10 more days until the surgery! We feel a huge sense of urgency to figure this fertility issue out as quickly as possible. They seemed to suggest we use a surrogate, but just the cost of taking the eggs, storing them and using them for my wife will cost as much as a new car. We can't afford to pay another 40K that they said it would cost. I set up a gofundme for my wife since the medical bills are already in the thousands, and we have received an amazing amount of support, but there just won't be close to enough to pay for all of this. Such a tough decision.

    3-16-2011: Thank you for your comments. I will try and pay close attention to the drain instructions. That is another part I am not looking forward to. I know no one would, but I'm the one who turns white as a sheet when they draw blood. I'm going to have to get over that quickly. Thank you for sharing your experience. I will keep that in mind if it seems she is feeling down. I know she is having a hard time with the fertility issue. She doesn't want to raise the risk either, but it seems like even if we had the money for a surrogate, she wouldn't want to go that route because she wants to carry the baby if we are going to have one.

    Olivia82: Thank you for sharing that. They have told us to wait 3-5 years, depending on which Doctor we ask. Did you have a substantial amount of cost to do that? We are nervous to spend a huge amount of money and then end up not being able to use embryos. It's good to hear you bounced back so quickly. The Doctors say my wife's cancer likely first developed when she was 31, but since she has dense breast tissue it went undetected until recently. It's good to know you were able to have some fun on occasion, I hope that is the case for my wife as well. They told us she is ER+, but we haven't been told if it's "strongly" ER+ or not. I will look into that to see where we stand. Good luck to you too!

    debiann: Thank you for sharing that thread! I'm still learning how to navigate this forum. The links are very helpful. I will definitely look into the advice on that thread. I've already noticed that adoption is difficult for cancer survivors, which would throw a wrench into our backup plan. Thank you for sharing the haircut advice. I will suggest to my wife to get her haircut by a pro, and then ask if they will shave it when the time comes. I know one hairdresser has offered to use her discount on wigs so my wife can get a good one at a reduced cost. I will be her rock. I am still working towards being strong for her, I know she is really scared, but sometimes I look at her and tears fill my eyes because it breaks my heart that this is happening to her.

    Thank you all for your honesty and strength. You are all an inspiration.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited August 2015

    hi hubby,,, Glad to see you are getting lots of good advice on here. I didn't have the pregnancy issue, so I'm glad others were able to steer you to that link.  You are a total rock and rock star.  

    Yes, have her hair cut by a pro,, get a nice cute cut to enjoy for now. Buzz it off when you have to. My hairdresser told me to come by for a wash if I needed one post op,, I'm single and live alone,,, but I was able to manage. Her hairdresser might give her a free buzz when needed.

    If you are on Facebook,,,, look for Stupid Dumb Breast Cancer.  Ann-Marie is a real hoot.and again another source of information. I know they have discussed pregnancy after treatment on there, and if you pose a question to her, she will post it so that you can see how people reply. (the name comes from what one of her kids said after diagnosis)

    Really nice to see her job stepping up with flex time and people donating their sick time to her. That is a wonderful way to help.

    If you haven't found the SEARCH function yet,, look on the left hand side of the page and you will see the search button.  You can type in "pregnancy" or anything else you want and it will search for that topic.  And under All Topics You can see all the categories in case you want to look for a specific topic, like Chemo, or Rads, or Surgery, or whatever.

    One day at a time,, hang in there.  Always feel free to ask questions or vent/rant with us.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited August 2015

    My suggestion to you is is to go over to the chemo area and join one of the monthly groups for when she is starting her chemo. The support from that group was essential during chemo. They can tell you want to expect, when to expect it and how to deal with it either physically such as side effects or emotionally. I wouldn't know anything about chemo it they hadn't been there. I just finished today. I was very lucky (so far). I and very few side effects. Others aren't so lucky. You won't know which category she falls into until she does it.

    Best of luck with her surgery. She is lucky to have you to take care of her.

  • VickiRides
    VickiRides Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2015

    Hi, Hubby. You two can do this! I had a right mastectomy four weeks ago and my husband was a wonderful support. He too gets queasy around blood, but he had no problems helping me with my drain. They really aren't as scary as they sound. As far as working, I was able to be on the computer as soon as I got home from the hospital, although with the anesthesia and pain pills it took a few more days until I made sense. I went into the office for a couple of hours a day about 10 days after surgery and was back full time two weeks after.

    Good luck to you both.

  • inks
    inks Member Posts: 746
    edited August 2015

    I may be an exception but I did not have major difficulty washing my hair. In the shower I just bent my head forward and used my little t-rex arms. I prepped for surgery and chemo and purchased many things mentioned on these boards, but I barely used any of them, now those items stare me in the face every time I open the vanity cabinet and remind me of the surgery and chemo. So don't go overboard prepping but perhaps eyeball where those items are at the pharmacy and what their hours are.

    Ask the oncologist about ovarian suppression before starting the chemo, that will shut down the ovaries and protect them during the chemo. There is no increased risk of cancer returning for women who get pregnant after cancer treatment, I can't find the study at the moment but I am sure you can google it.


  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited August 2015

    I had bi-lateral mastectomies with placement of tissue expanders, spent a day and a half in the hospital (my surgery was late afternoon) and came home on a Wed. morning. My husband stayed home the remainder of that week and went back to work on the following Monday. He has a long commute and works long hours so I was on my own most of the time. We do not have family nearby, and my daughter was 21 at the time and in college locally, but she was rarely home as she was also working. I did fine on my own, didn't want or need a lot of coddling. I did not have any significant issues - I would recommend that you advise your pharmacy to put non-childproof caps on her meds, I would use a medicine tracking log or phone app to keep track of when meds have been taken. I wouldn't go out and buy lots of stuff until you see what you really need. I could microwave things, open the fridge, etc. I found it better to have drinks in single servings so that I didn't have to lift a large container and pour into a glass. I resumed cooking and laundry the next week, I just took it slow. I was able to shower with drains, but had the drains less than a week. My husband stripped the drains a few times, but I could do it myself after that. If you Google drain stripping video there is a good informational youtube video - not graphic, just instructional. My husband washed my hair for me a couple of times, either in the sink or with a handheld shower head, after that I could do it myself without really lifting my arms up too high. I had long hair - almost to my waist. I did cut it before chemo started, but it was mainly to have a hairpiece made from it. Hair loss usually takes place about 14 days after the start of chemo, which is unlikely to commence until 3-4 weeks after surgery, so she has time to decide whether she wants to cut her hair. I see that you are concerned about fertility preservation so wanted to link this program that provides help for women about to undergo chemo:

    http://haveababy.com/infertility-treatments/fertil...

  • Olivia82
    Olivia82 Member Posts: 29
    edited August 2015

    so scared hubby - I live in the UK so we were very lucky that we didn't have to pay for my treatment including fertility, people moan a lot about our taxes etc but you don't fully appreciate a national health system until you really need it. I can't imagine how stressful this would all be with added financial pressure but maybe it would be worth at least having a consult with a fertility specialist. We found this really useful and had a great doctor who explained all our options and likely success rates, risks etc. Looking back I think the weeks before treatment starts were the hardest, you have to make so many major life decisions about surgery, chemo, fertility, work, telling people......... Honestly for me once it all got going and we could focus on an end point it got easier, I hope this is the same for you both x

  • soscaredhubby
    soscaredhubby Member Posts: 45
    edited August 2015

    Thanks again for all the great advice. We have been working hard to get everything ready for the fight. One week to go! We made a bunch of plans this weekend to go out and have fun. The gene tests have come back negative, so we don't have to worry about that aspect. Next week will be super busy trying to prepare for the surgery and everything. I have been trying to get the word out on her fundraiser and now we have a reporter from the local paper coming out with a photographer to interview my wife and I. She's a little nervous, but they are interviewing a lot of women in the area about their story, so it sounds like a worthwhile endeavor.

    Glennie19: Thank you for that. My wife is the rock star. I have actually told people that before when they ask how she is doing, I just say she's a rock star! I will try hard to be her rock when she needs me. She is getting her hair done today. She has already picked out a cute style. Thank you for that FB page. That sounds like something my wife would really enjoy. Her company has been great. They have organized a race for the cure team in September for her. They are making custom T-shirts and everything. It is 4 weeks after her surgery, so I am hoping we will be able to attend and walk. I bought tickets for a soccer match after the race just in case she feels up to going before the chemo starts. Agreed. One day at a time. Thank you for all of your help.

    Trvler: Thanks for the advice on the chemo. I will definitely look into that. Anything to make things as smooth as possible for her. I want to be prepared. I hope that she is like you and has very few side effects. That is good to hear.

    Vickirides: Thank you! I'm glad you were able to bounce back so quickly. I hope I don't have a problem with her drains. I want to be able to help her, not be a liability. I have been better recently. I let the doctors draw my blood last year after they bothered me for the past 10 years. I told them I couldn't do it and I was sure my blood work was fine, but they kept insisting. I managed to get through it without passing out/ getting pale. So maybe I am finally overcoming that. Though, it did take 2 nurses and my wife to get me through it. haha

    inks: OK. That's good to know. I am trying to pick through the list to find the things that sound like the most important. I am going to be here for my wife at all times, so I can always run out and get something if we need it. We have been asking about ovarian suppression with the oncologist. The hope is we can get the insurance to cover it as hormone reduction instead of a fertility option that isn't covered. I saw something on the Komen site where multiple studies found that there was no increased risk. We went back and asked the fertility doctors about that and they just disregarded it as ONE study that they can't give any credence to. Which isn't actually true. We are kind of baffled they didn't know this information.

    SpecialK: Good to know you were able to get through all of that without many issues. We appreciate all the advice. Keeping track of the meds with an app is a good idea. I was on medication last winter, and I had to empty the bottle and count the pills from the date that I got them to make sure I had taken that days dosage multiple times. I must be getting old. We will look into that drain instruction video. I am sure we are both going to be exhausted when they send her home from the hospital, so we may not remember everything they tell us. Thank you for the link. We have decided to proceed with the fertility aspect, for now at least.

    Olivia82: I'm glad you were able to get help without breaking the bank. It's tough. I am nervous about spending money on fertility when we don't know how much it is going to take to get my wife healthy again. If we didn't have the money that we had set aside for my college tuition, then we wouldn't have any money to pay these medical bills. We already owe thousands and she hasn't even had surgery. I know a lot of people are going through the same hardships. That being said, we did meet with the specialist. My wife had her ultrasound to check for egg production and blood work done yesterday. Now it's my turn to go in and have them draw blood (UGH) and have them do an analysis on the "other" stuff. I am not looking forward to either. But yeah, gotta do what we gotta do so we can focus on that end point!

    Take care you all! And thanks again for all the great advice and support.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited August 2015

    Wish you and your wife all the best and a speedy recovery. Please keep us updated. She is so lucky to have you.

  • windingshores
    windingshores Member Posts: 704
    edited August 2015

    I had two single mastectomies, one at a time. I didn't have any help and did fine, if that helps. I could have used help with lifting groceries or reaching for things but soon learned what I could not do and found ways around it. With you around, your wife will be more than fine. Drains are the biggest pain, literally.

    I am wondering how you know the plan is for chemo, before surgery. And also how you know the lymph nodes were fine awhile ago: are you referring to how they felt?

    I was headed for chemo before surgery, from biopsy results, but after surgical pathology the plan was changed. I had grade 3, highish ki67 (proliferation rate), and lymphovascular invasion (focal) so things weren't looking good at first. (Biopsy results also had me as HER2+)

    Your wife is hormone positive but you do not know how strongly. If she is strongly ER+ then I would get other opinions after surgical pathology results, to see if chemo is not only needed but useful.

    An important component of this decision is the Oncotype Dx score. This is a test that most likely will be done on the post surgical specimens. Has anyone mentioned this?

    If the score is low, then we are told that chemo most likely will do more harm than good. If it is high, then you know for sure chemo is needed. If the score is intermediate, things are still murky but the TailorX trial will give some answers this year.

    Great that you got her on Tamoxifen while she waited. If MD's think that is useful during a long delay, then her initial biopsy most likely showed ER+ and maybe PR+ to a point of usefulness.

    It really helps to get copies of all labs and reports. It also helps to get second or third opinions. I got three and had to send my specimens all over town: believe me, I kept track of them myself. I trust noone! (No offense to all those wonderful lab assistants.) I had two MD's against chemo, a tumor board against chemo, and an MD for chemo. I also had an opinion that 1 out of 5 radiation specialists would recommend radiations. I ended up doing "only" hormonal treatment.

    I cut my hair, bought the scarves, had my teeth cleaned, bought baking soda for mouth sores. But I did NOT have chemo. Hoping that still may be possible for your wife.

    If you have definitive info that chemo is needed, I apologize for this post!!

  • soscaredhubby
    soscaredhubby Member Posts: 45
    edited August 2015

    Trvler: Thank you. I will keep everyone updated post surgery. Wishing you the best as well.

    Windingshores: The plan for chemo is the one laid out by the oncologist. We have met with all of our potential doctors, even the radiology doc. We are actually on our 2nd oncologist because the first one didn't seem to want to do her job in a timely manner. I will spare you all the drama, but let's just say I'm probably "flagged" down there. As far as the lymph nodes, we are going off of a few indicators. First, my wife had zero pain in the area, there was no sign of swelling of the nodes, and the ultrasound showed no sign of any of that either. I know that doesn't mean they were free and clear before, but now they are painful and swollen. I am still angry about how long it has taken to get to surgery. 72 days after diagnosis is ridiculous in my mind, but we are one week away now, and I'm trying to stay positive for my wife. She doesn't need the extra stress. They only offered to put her on Tamoxifen after I complained how long they were taking to get to surgery. So yeah, I am looking for 2nd opinions post surgery. There is a better facility in another city, but is closer to my wife's place of work. They are doing our fertility work and we have walked over there from her building. I don't know if she can do that going through chemo, but if it gets her better treatment I don't care, I will carry her there.

    We have contacted the doctors regarding the strength of her hormone positive cancer. I did show my wife your post, and we are going to be asking these questions and getting 2nd and 3rd opinions once we get the pathology from the surgery. Thank you for your advice. We learn so much from these forums. We understand that we won't know exactly what is in store for her until after the surgery. The chemo plan right now is just based on her age and size of the tumor. She actually has 2 tumors close together, so they are adding the 2 together for size. The MRI revealed a couple other small suspicious spots, but we didn't get a biopsy on them because we decided on a double anyway. And as we have learned, "suspicious" spots mean noting. They were so certain that the spots on her liver were cancer that the surgeon cried when she told us. That was 2 weeks of feelings that I never want to experience again. Thank God for that awesome phone call that it wasn't cancer. I think that was the first time I ever cried and laughed at the same time.

    My wife is getting her haircut at this very moment. She was supposed to last night but the stylist had an emergency. She has had her teeth cleaned this week and today we are going out shopping for a wig. If chemo is in some way avoidable we will definitely look into that. We haven't heard anything otherwise. Our main concern was the radiation. That doctor made it clear that he didn't want to radiate my wife if at all possible. I think that was mainly regarding the lumpectomy versus the mastectomy, but it still made an impression on us.

    Thank you for your opinions and thoughts. They are very much appreciated. I am here to learn, People and doctors have asked us how we learned about breast cancer so quickly, and it's because we have been talking to the people who are fighters. I have encourage my wife to attend the local Young Survivor Coalition meeting. I am hoping she can draw strength from meeting people just like her. Like I told the reporter who is going to interview us when she said she was doing a story about women with breast cancer in the area, the cancer survivor community is a tough and supportive group. My wife and I plan on beating this, but we can never walk away from this. We plan on helping others, just as others have helped us.

    Best wishes to you all.

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited August 2015

    Thank you for keeping us posted!

  • soscaredhubby
    soscaredhubby Member Posts: 45
    edited August 2015

    The surgery is tomorrow morning. I'm trying to stay calm for my wife but internally I am freaking out. This may sound dumb, but I know a lot of you have been through this before...Can someone tell me it's going to be OK? I really need my wife to be OK.

    Any last advice to prepare for surgery or for when she comes home is also appreciated. I am have been busy shopping for supplies and sanitizing the house. Her short haircut looks super cute. She even went wig shopping last weekend just to get that out of the way.

    We had a fun last weekend before the fight. Went to a baseball game, outdoor music fest, got a room downtown, went out to dinner, and hit the late night food carts, etc....Now we fight!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited August 2015

    Hubby, you are da bomb! Hang in there. I'm sure you are as prepared as you can be.  Don't overthink the supplies, as you or someone else can always make a drugstore run when something is needed.   Just put a pillow in the car so she can put in between her chest and the seat belt strap for the ride home from the hospital.

    Will be thinking of you both tomorrow.  Update us when you can. 

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited August 2015

    In your pocket for tomorrow.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited August 2015

    I will be thinking about you and your wife, too and it is going to be ALRIGHT.

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