AUGUST 2015 SURGERY SISTERS!!

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  • shorfi
    shorfi Member Posts: 791
    edited August 2015

    Amy, I hope that you are getting some relief and feeling a bit better. My chest used to hurt too, but for me it was the sternum that was giving me the most pain, along with having muscle spasms in my breast, for which I had to take Valium.

    Hoping my revision goes well on Wednesday. I'm not nervous, just sick and tired of the whole breast crap. If I don't get symmetrical looking breasts, I will just have to settle for what my PS can do. Just tired of it all and everyone giving me their opinion...and none of them have EVER walked in my shoes. I had to pick up some meds for the hubby and the pharmacy technician (who is a very lovely woman), asked me why I was getting the bacterial wipes. I told her I was having another breast surgery and she asked me why was I going through all this, and suggested that I just cut them off...gasp...sigh. Then she went on to relate how I am going to have to exchange them in 10 years. I didn't know what to say and I stood there stupidly.

    Arista, I hope you are feeling better and try to remember just because you can doesn't mean you should. One of our lovely sisters here used to always quote that.

    Suzy, hoped they removed your drains.

  • justamy
    justamy Member Posts: 532
    edited August 2015

    Glad to read that you are all doing well.Drains are annoying whatever is going on with them. If nothing is coming out, there may be an obstruction. I had this happen and they had me push them in deeper and milk the tubing. It worked like a charm and didn't even hurt. Mine leaked a bit too but again they had me push them deeper. I guess I was too active and kept pulling them out too far. BTW...I've had drains twice and it didn't hurr either time they took them out. I was scared cause everyone said it was terrible but I didn't feel it at all!

  • justamy
    justamy Member Posts: 532
    edited August 2015

    Oh as for my sickness, it still lingers...I really fwell like a wimp after getting through the other 3 w no problems. Now this easy one is kicking my but. The fever is lower today but have terrible stomach cramps. I see surgeon Wed so I'm trying to hold on till then. I guess I have to since I called Saturday and they basically told me to deal with it. I've never had 100+ fever for five days except once during chemo when my counts were bad. And they put me in an ambulance and took me to the hospital then! I don't want to be hospitalized but I do wish they would not act like I'm faking or something. OK that's enough pity party today!

    Prayers for all of you having surgery this week and for speedy recoveries for everyone!

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited August 2015

    Amy, how awful for you. I hope you feel better soon. I agree getting the drain out didn't hurt and was a relief for me.

  • quiltlibrarian
    quiltlibrarian Member Posts: 174
    edited August 2015

    Amy glad to hear how you are doing. Hey if any one understands it is us.

    I have been surprized how different this surgery is compared to the last one.

    hugs


  • justamy
    justamy Member Posts: 532
    edited August 2015

    This rrecovery keeps getting better (NOT). So tonight I'm taking a bath and I notice a bad old friend...spots all over my arms and legs. With me that means one thing: Sweet's syndrome. If you've never heard of it, don't worry, my oncologist hadn't either until I was diagnosed. Only 1 in a million people get it, and only 25% of those have recurrent Sweet's. Lucky In a few words it is a immune disease that causes boil like lesions and high fevers for 3-7 days. It has to do with high nutrophil numbers and is often discovered the first time in the early stages of breast cancer.

    Anyway, it always stinks, but it's worse than usual this time because a) it causes high fever b) causes difficulty breathing and mostly because c) antibiotics from my lung stuff will make it worse And its treated with steroids which will make any infection worse. Plus I don't really have a Sweet Syndrome Doctor yet because they scheduled me w a dermatologist but not until November! So tomorrow I have to figure out who to call to talk about it... Probably my oncologist because they at least know what it is but I have NO idea what they are going to do! Sigh again...lol

  • 39andhip
    39andhip Member Posts: 164
    edited August 2015

    Oh no, that stinks, justamy. :( I'm so sorry. I hope you can at least talk to someone about it tomorrow!

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    Sorry to hear justamy. I pray it gets better for you. Sorry I've been a bit MIA. While my own sx seems to have gone well according to my ps yesterday at my po, my bff Anna who is also a help with me got confirmation yesterday that her sister indeed has metastatic cancer that started in the pancreas and has spread to her liver where there is a large mass there. I almost hate telling her my news as it's like nothing compared to her sis who is in constant pain and the clock is ticking for sure as it goes with pancreatic cancer. So between my resting and trying to be an ear and help her research it, I've been mia. Her sis while 62 is mentally challenged to where her capacity is of like elementary school child. Simply heartbreaking.

    Anyway, good luck to you sis's this week on deck. While discomfort and the 4 drains are a pain in the butt to deal, it isn't as bad as I thought. PS has me seeing him once a week so next appt is Mon. I see bs for po on Fri then it goes for 6 mo as long as nothing comes up for him to recheck. I think I'm more worried about the se of chemo and tamoxifen. I see MO 9/23 again to figure tx plan.

    Bro leaves early evening today. Been here from LA since last Wed. Poor guy has done a lot. May not look like it but wow, the little things like bring me a cup of water can be huge at times. He's very queezy about body fluids. So we went from before him coming here no way can he deal with that to at times being in the bathroom stripping the tubes. He's ran a lot of errands for me, washed my car and waxed inside of it. Looks brand new after months of neglect. Going to miss him. He's spent though. While he sleeps 9 hour nights, stress has him looking like he slept 0. Feel bad for him. He's sticking around till 8 pm tonight not cuz I have stuff yet to have done but Anna is coming over after work and would like to see him one more time before he heads back to LA. Who knows when he'll be back up to see me because since this is such a secret with the fam, he has to be careful with mom and dad. Mom's easy as she's in Seattle but he sees dad every weekend and it can be weird if he skips one. So this past weekend it was a friend of his from out of state came and he's busy with him in LA catching up. Otherwise if it wasn't sneaky and especially if dad knew, he'd stay all he wants cuz dad would cover the pricey car rental beyond the week he has it for. That expires at 5:30 am tomorrow so hence the leave at 8:00 pm and get there before 5:30 am to get it in on the dot.

    Anna has done a lot for me over the years. Bro loves her too for it and she's a great person. Wacky family with crazy mom and all unfortunately. So there are 2 of us for me and bro in terms of emotional and mental support for her too.

    If anyone happens to know a site like this for pancreatic cancer, please let me know. I have never seen such a thorough informative and supportive site like this one is. Wow. God bless whoever started this one.

    Again, good luck to everyone having sx coming up. I'm thankful I read this site for 2 months and was very prepared. I did suffer and I think do still from constipation from Norco and none of the otc stuff worked. What worked for me was a handful of prunes and then I had the D problem for awhile. lol. I think I'll need to do the manual flush with prunes so to speak until I'm done with Norco, which will be when the bottle is empty and I'm afraid to not take it and wind up in pain. Thankfully no pain per se for a couple days now but the tightness and discomfort and swelling is nuts!

    God bless you all, with much love. <3


  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited August 2015

    Arista, I will be praying for your friend. My 17 year old son is special needs so i have a soft spot for that community. Sorry your brother has to leave you. So is it the TE's that hurt or the surgical site? I am scheduled for umx and TE on 8/25.

    Justamy, sending you prayers and wishes for healing. Sorry you are dealing with so much.

  • justamy
    justamy Member Posts: 532
    edited August 2015

    Take all the Norco you can! I thought I was tough after my BMX because I'd had 5 other surgeries and always skipped narcotic pain meds. I hate the way they make me feel. I learned with BMX, I hate pain way worse! Once you let it get out its really hard to reign back in. I even got my doc to refill mine because I was still in terrible pain after the first round. I felt like a wimp but I wasn't hurting! I think I was on Norco for a month. I didn't get addicted... Once the pain was over I didn't want it. Moral of the story...make the docs work for you and keep your pain under control even if it means asking for more meds. Good luck with your pain control!

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    Thanks Molly50. On the one hand it's easier she is special needs because she doesn't get the prognosis and we can keep her spirits up. On the other hand how sad she has no clue. So hard to say which is better, her not really knowing the full extent or if she could.

    As for the discomfort, I think for me it's the tight sx bra I had on and now the tight camisole moreso. I'm still swollen so it feels like it's digging in. I don't sense TE pressure per se or surgical wounds pressure. It's weird though. It's numb but yet I can feel some digging in from my garments. Also trying to figure what direction to have the drain tubing go to produce the least discomfort. I can kind of sense fluids moving in my tissues. It's like a host of sensations which can be weird but it is normal.

    My docs did a great job as really day of sx and 1/2 of day 2 post sx I would say I called it pain but still not unbearable with the meds given. After that, discomfort more so. Makes a huge difference with the hospital staff as they were all so great and soothing. They wanted me up and starting to walk day of sx but I was too conked out with anesthesia that I didn't get up until Friday (next day). It was a hard walk, tiring, but made it down a small hall and back ok. I had my own room so that was very nice with no roomie. Big room.

    Anyone in the Bay Area CA I highly advise using Washington Hospital womens center and hospital for bc. Dr. William Dugoni and Dr. Prasad Kilaru (bs and ps) are a stellar pair.

    ***Also: Highly recommend getting comfy button down silky pj top/bottom and comfy dusters that button down. I went to the hospital in a light duster that I had already adhered these stick on pockets inside ready for the drains for when I was discharged. Someone here posted about pink pockets site and this is a Godsend. I can wear whatever I want with these pockets for my drains. I ordered 3 dusters and 2 silky pj button downs and stuck one pocket on each side inside the garment. I found that the tape could come undone so I sent my bro out to get large safety pins and had him safety pin down it down on the edges of the sides and bottom so no way can it go through should the taping start to fail. Despite having a cammy with pockets for the drains, it's much less uncomfortable and easier to have my pj top on top of it and have the drains going in the stick on pockets. Less bulk this way..***

    pinkpockets.com

    Best wishes to you all! <3


  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited August 2015

    Good luck to all the sisters having surgery this week. Hope all goes well.   Warm hugs!!!

    justamy - this is not the uneventful recovery I had wished for you.  I hope tomorrow you get some answers in how to treat the Sweet's.  How's the boobies coming along??

    artista - saddened to hear of your BFF's sister's diagnosis.  My BFF passed away from pancreatic cancer after nine months.  I will keep her in my prayers.

  • shorfi
    shorfi Member Posts: 791
    edited August 2015

    Will talk with you ladies in a few days. I am going in tomorrow at 6am. Please keep me in your pockets. Thank you

  • bjclaywell
    bjclaywell Member Posts: 49
    edited August 2015

    Morning all - quick checking in just to wish everyone good luck over the next couple of days.

    JustAmy - sorry to hear about Sweet's. I've actually heard about it, but didn't know anything about it - I hope the fever stage is limited, and you're able to control it. Sending all my good vibes your way for that!

    As for me - I've been going through a panic stage that I'm choosing the wrong surgery. I've been reading more and more about a gene mutation that I do have (MTHFR) and how there is a possible link with BC, and now I'm worried (even more than I already was). I just keep telling myself that science will always discover new things, and in a few more years, we will have new information and maybe I will or will not have chosen the "right" surgery. I have to keep telling myself it's the right surgery for right now.

    That, and I'm already stressing about the pathology report. Which is silly, I know, but I am.

    Anyway - thoughts and prayers out to those scheduled this week.

    Hug

  • aviva5675
    aviva5675 Member Posts: 1,353
    edited August 2015

    Miralax was great for me and constipation. Id recommend starting a few days before surgery.

  • quiltlibrarian
    quiltlibrarian Member Posts: 174
    edited August 2015

    Hello Ladies, had a bit problem with my drains this morning. Woke up to shirt wet and fluid around where the drains come out. Drain bulbs full or air. Called my surgeon's office and she was at hospital. Told me to come to the hospital and got more stitching around the drains. Feels a lot better.

    Justamy I hope things will get better soon.

    shorfi and Scotland good luck tomorrow.

    Bjcallwell it is hard desion to make and even walking it to the hospital on Friday I was thinking was this the right choice. I am very glad I did it though. I will be nervous until I get the path report in a couple of weeks.

    Arista so sorry to hear about your friend.

    Hugs to all, Take good care of yourselves.

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited August 2015

    A fellow sister saw these at her PS's offfice.

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    wouldn't it be funny if they came in scented too??  The DH's/significant others can rub them and get their favorite scent. 

    A little laughter is good for the soul.  Hope you got a good chuckle!!!

  • AudreyB
    AudreyB Member Posts: 377
    edited August 2015

    Amy, hope you feel better soon.

    Good luck tomorrow shorfi and Scotland.

    Bjcalwell, I struggled with my decision but once I decided on BMX it was like all the weight was lifted. I had cancer in left and path showed cancer in right was not far behind.

    I went for PST today. All is well, except the nurse couldn't draw blood so she sent me up to the lab. Nurse in lab had no problem but I developed a huge lump on my forearm crease (what is that body part called) while driving to work. Turns out I got a hematoma from the blood draw. Bruising is growing hourly, it hurts to bend and straighten my arm. I'm icing now, then warm compress, on and off for 24 hours. I need this like a hole in the head. Worried about lymphodemia. Grrrrrrr.

  • Suzy1067
    Suzy1067 Member Posts: 36
    edited August 2015

    Good Morning ladies!

    Prayers for all about to go in for surgery this week and for those already healing!  I'm just checking in to give an update and some encouragement.  Yesterday, was my first day back at work - I took one week off and have the blessing of working from home until my drains are removed.  Sadly, they were not removed at my post-op appointment on Monday.  But, that's ok - I definitely do not want them taken out too soon!  My surgeons said my nodes were clear and there were no residual cells.  They will present my case to the board next Tuesday and determine what, if any, my next treatments will be.  They are hopeful, that no additional treatments will be required.

    Today marks one week since I came home...I'm still sleeping in the recliner, but, I'm sleeping really well - that was the best idea my DH had (to rent it for a month).  I actually showered by myself yesterday and washed my hair, blow dried it and all.  That was AWESOME!  It's the little things that you take for granted being able to do for yourself!

    While anticipating my decision to have BMX - I mourned all the things I was going to miss about my breasts...every day I thought of something new that I was used to that would be gone!  One silly thing was when I drink something cold, I feel it in my breasts!  As it goes down, I feel it...I thought to myself, I won't feel that anymore, how weird will that be?  Well, this morning, I took my chilled supplement shot and guess what?  I felt it in my breasts....just like I always do :).  I was so excited.  The feeling is coming back, they feel tingly (like when your foot fall asleep) more and more each day.  I just wanted to give you all some encouragement.  It may not be exactly how you were, but, you will still be you!  Remember that and the most important thing is - the cancer will be GONE!  Have peace with your decision...we are all blessed that we are here and that we have each other!

    Hugs to you all!

    Suzy

  • Kimmer33
    Kimmer33 Member Posts: 386
    edited August 2015

    great to hear Suzy!

    Wondering if you ladies can tell me about sleeping elevated after surgery. Is there a medical reason that this is done? I do not have a recliner nor do I feel comfortable sleeping that far away from my husband those first few nights - I also really dont want to pay for a foam wedge (cant even find them) if I dont have to, they are not cheap! Any info would be appreciated

    All the best to those with surgeries this week!

    Kim

  • justamy
    justamy Member Posts: 532
    edited August 2015

    After my BMX I had a lot of pain and weird sensations from the nerves being cut. My pain was controlled wonderfully. The thing about sleeping in bedvis that you may roll over and you don't want that. Also many want to be elevated so they can get out of bed easier. I had a recliner but I slept in my bed sans extra pillows/ wedge a few times. It did leave me a bit sore. You can definitely do it without the recliner. I personally would invest in more pillows instead of a wedge unless you have a lot already. You will want to be elevated a bit but how much depends on your pain level and how much activity you can do. I took a shower by myself the day I came home and I wasn't supposed to be able to do that. It all is very Individual. Have a safe surgery and easy recovery!

  • Suzy1067
    Suzy1067 Member Posts: 36
    edited August 2015

    The recliner was a personal choice for comfort - I was afraid of laying flat and I'm a side sleeper, so, I needed it for positioning.  I was also worried that my husband would not rest well with me there, because he'd be worried about bumping me during the night.  My 19 year old daughter has insisted on sleeping beside me on the couch (she also stayed overnight in the hospital) just in case I needed her :).  I am planning to try the bed as soon as the drains are out. Which might be tomorrow as my levels are now well below 25ml YAY!!.

    Whatever makes you the most comfortable is what will work best for you!

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    Kim- I was worried about that too. No recliner in my small apt, not into sleeping in my bed (love the couch in the living room), plus my bro was here for 6 nights and gave him my room. I've had bad experiences in there as well so some is a phobia thing too but I love my comfy couch and have been on it for years now despite a full size bed/room here.

    I haven't heard of a medical reason for needing to sleep kind of upright. If you lay flat it seems it would hurt more because you do feel tight chested as is and then you have a tight sx bra or something like that on after. If you are having a mx with TE insertion then you'll also have the tension/tightness of the TE. I've even read that even though you have a SO to help you in and out of bed that still, was a help to be already up some to start with. I'd suggest playing around with pillow formations and realizing that you can't be using your arms to push up and down much. It's your legs and abdominal muscles that'll be doing the up and down work.

    For me, I already knew it was a couch set up for me but did wonder about being propped up and comfortable both. Friend brought over different pillow types to play with set up before sx and nothing felt comfy. Went to Ross for something else and looked at their pillow selection (not sleeping pillows). Found a wedge like comfy (not so soft you sink in and not too firm you are "sitting" full on). Very pretty soft fuzzy which has a tall "back" to it and 2 "arms" that hugs you. I put just this alone against my arm of the couch and it is so comfy I don't want to get up sometimes. To not get it dirty with not being able to bathe and dirty hair, I took a pillow case and just put it over the back part. Works so well. Someone on here suggested this as I thought no way I can to the couch because since I'm overweight and it's not terribly deep, it would be hard. But the arms of this thing and being upright enough remind me (along with the discomfort) that I can't be side sleeping. So I make minor hip adjustments to help with taking pressure off areas since you can't do your normal changing position.

    Since I have my alarm set for a 2:30 am and 6:30 am time to take meds, I just sit up to recharge myself as far as having slept on my back so much. Like right now it's 6:20 am. 10 minutes to go to pop my antibiotics and norco. Then I'll lie back down to sleep/rest.

    But I'd definitely get the set up figured out before hand so when you come home, you are ready to just slide right in.

    Best wishes to you and everyone on tap this week for sx, and to everyone having had sx. May we all get through ok and heal well and speedy! <3

  • georgie61
    georgie61 Member Posts: 95
    edited August 2015

    I have just been quietly observing these posts, and making notes, lists, and getting things ready for my own BMX with TE on the 28th. I've been nervous, of course, but you ladies are giving me much more confidence. I got my paperwork back from the insurance company and I got approved for a 2 night stay, which I am happy for because I'll be travelling from out of town and I want to know that everything is ok before I hit the road.

    My brother has a business that sells tempurpedic beds, and we got one a few years ago with the base that elevates so I know that will be very helpful. My husband said he will sleep in a room down the hall while I am elevated. He has been wonderful through chemo - so I have no doubt he will be extremely helpful during the sx recovery.

    I have a question though - how soon before I'm able to drive? We live a little way out in the country and I don't like the idea of being house bound. My husband will have to go to work some during the days and so will most people around. My kids are both grown and live out of town - unfortunately, they won't be able to be here either.

    I know it will all be ok...just things I've been thinking about. Thanks everyone!

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    Georgie61- This site is great, isn't it? Such a life saver for me. I had sx last Thurs 8/6, BMX with TE placements. I have 2 drains on each side. Even though I'm keeping up with my Norco and antibiotic meds and not skipping and feel like I could drive much of the time, I think it's best not to because there are times when I'm fine then I feel a bit dizzy and an urge to sit back or lie down. Can't predict it when this feeling will come over me, so for me I'm not driving until drains are out and I see I don't go from fine to all of the sudden not so much. Could be dangerous to myself and/or others driving right now. I'm taking advantage of the help I have now.

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited August 2015

    audrey - hope the arm is better today. If u had nodes removed from both arms I would have them use your leg for blood draw. They may not like it but their not the one at risk for LE. The same goes for taking your BP. If u only had node removed from one arm then always remember to use the other arm. I actually had that argument yesterday with the nurse when I went for my medical clearance. Took a blood draw from Right arm, thought I was done n put a band aid on it n then realizedi also needed another blood test so she wanted my left arm cause she said she can't draw out of right again. I told her either she use my leg, find another spot on my right arm or test not happening because left arm is off limits

    Suzy - great news on the clear nodes n great attitude. I hope u will get the all clear as far as other treatment. Thanks for sharing.

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited August 2015

    georgie - driving is usually not recommended until your stitches r healed n your off pain meds. Remember that u will need to b like t-rex for at least the first two weeks. Every PS is different as far as when they allow u to resume certain activities so best to check with them.

  • hummingbirdlover
    hummingbirdlover Member Posts: 421
    edited August 2015

    That whole arm, blood pressure/draw thing is so interesting. I totally err on the side of caution and use my left arm now but my BS has told me over and over again that it's fine for me to use my right arm. I had 3 nodes removed on the right side but according to him, it is dependent on how many nodes they remove. Hmmmm...ok, but what's the magic number there? I will probably never offer up my right arm again. For those heading into surgery, I was reading about the lying positions and seriously, I LIVED in my recliner for four solid weeks. It hurt to try and lie flat and it wasn't as comfortable in bed with pillows propped up (for me) as it was on the recliner and then there was nobody to accidentally bump me in the middle of the night. After BMX it did help to have some small pillows to prop up my arms, especially my right arm (I stole one of my son's small pillow pets which worked great). I wasn't driving for about 4 weeks past BMX - the most difficult thing was putting on my seatbelt!! That seatbelt STILL gives me grief and is uncomfortable.

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited August 2015

    I slept for 3 nights in our recliner after my Lx because my bed is high and I was afraid of falling. With my UMX ( or possible BMX) coming up I plan to sleep in the recliner again. I used several little pillows to keep my arm elevated and protect my drain. Suzy, thank you for updating. It is so good to hear how well you are doing just a week post op.

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited August 2015

    There is a lumpectomy clinic at the hospital I was at. Had to attend the class in addition to the 1:1 with the nurse navigator class. You DO NOT want to risk getting it. They gave us rubber bracelets that says the no bp, needles, IV on affected arm to use forever. Saw 2 ladies in the class with an arm so swollen and them in misery with the arm sleeve on. One doesn't have insurance to cover a lumpectomy therapist. Women's clinic gave the sleeve for free to me if I ever start to swell and for use every time I fly or go to high altitude at my preop.

    There is no rhyme or reason about # of nodes taken out as to whether you'll get it or not. One thing's for sure, you get it and you have it for life. It's not regular swelling where you elevate and it goes down. And it is painful for them. Some folks have 1 taken out and get it, some had 20 out and don't get it. It's a lifetime caution. One lady forgot about this and 20 years later got it. You can see from afar the difference in the arms. There is no guarantee that you won't get it even if you do abide by the rules, but why chance it?? I wear that bracelet even when at home. Should something happen I go unconscious and can't speak for myself, I don't want to wake up and see an IV and all on my left arm.

    In the hospital even though 4 nodes were taken from my left side, they did bp on my leg. I love this place. They cover us fully with whatever we can do prophalactedly.

    The reason why you can't really tell just from # is we are all born with different # of nodes. If you aren't born with many under your arm to begin with then 1 can be a big deal like 20 out would be to someone who has the max.

    The lymph system is very interesting. Got a binder on it. It's not something that's on our radar when we talk human physiology but it's very important for toxins are primarily taken to the kidneys for processing via this system, not blood system. People with lymphedema are therefore possibly more immune compromised because there aren't enough nodes to do the filtering like there was before, and can be prone to infections.

    I didn't think it was a huge deal after reading about it online but this class woke me up that it can be. My ps is part of this wonderful women's clinic group and says unless you had 0 taken out, don't chance it.

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