How painful is a mastectomy?
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Maybe this is jumping the gun because I haven't even had the biopsy yet but I believe in being prepared for the worst: it gives me a feeling of being in control and often you are pleasantly surprized.
Mammo showed a 6cm lump in right breast. Nothing said about lymph nodes or the left breast.
Ultrasound showed two "areas of concern" in right breast: the lump(which corresponded to the mammo, they said this was good but didn't say why) and a cluster of microcalcifications. Once again, nothing said about lymph nodes. Left breast was not scanned.
1) How long do you have to stay in the hospital? My mom has severe dementia and I am her sole caregiver. No one will help me take care of her. She can not be left alone. This is no exaggeration. She has set the house on fire twice and tends to roam around and get lost if not watched constantly. She doesn't remember how to cook or do laundry, etc... so I have to plan everything ahead.
2) How painful is it? I can't take painkillers, I can't urinate when on them and they will not give me a catherter because I am diabetic. I know pain is highly subjective so I'll put it this way: I had to have surgery for a broken knee, I'd give that an 8. Once I had two root canals in one day and felt no pain at all.
Would be so grateful for some info. Have looked all over the net for answers to these two questions and couldn't find anything.
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EbonyEyes, I am like you, expect the worst and you are never disappointed. I am an upbeat, happy, content person, but I find that if I prepare for the worst- mentally, physically, spiritually, and emotionally then I am ready for what might be ahead. Obviously those of us on this site ultimately did have to deal on some level with at least some degree of "bad" news. I did expect the worst and it honestly did help me deal with it- and then there were parts that were NOT as bad as expected... so that was serendipity!! So I get what you are saying.
To answer your questions, most people just stay one night, barring complications. I did a double mastectomy- the right side had cancer but I did both sides while I was at it!! I figured if I were going to all that trouble, I might as well- and at least they would be symmetrical. I had tissue expanders put it during surgery and will go back for silicon implants in a few months. I don't know what you are thinking about reconstruction options…regardless of whether you decide to reconstruct or not you will likely leave the hospital with drains and need some assistance for a while at home (2-3 days minimum, depending on what you have done at time of surgery).
As for pain, I didn't think it was very painful. The first several hours I had a morphin pump which I used, then I took the percoset for a couple of days but it gives me problems also so I switched to Aleve and Advil early on. To me it feels more like a horrible sunburn than actual pain. My mama had knee replacement surgery last summer and was in more pain it seemed. A lot of my discomfort has been due to my tissue expanders- they are uncomfortable and annoying but not extremely painful.
You would definitely need to arrange for care for your mom for a while- but the length would be very dependent on what all the surgery involves and how much physical labor is involved with her care (lifting, etc…)
I send prayers and hugs your way, EbonyEyes and wish you the best. Take care!!
Freeland
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Hi EbonyEyes:
Sometimes it can help you to work through things while you wait.
Time in hospital and the amount of pain will depend on whether you are having mastectomy without reconstruction or some sort of reconstruction procedure. Time in the hospital might also vary with health status or if there are complications.
Mastectomy without reconstruction would require the shortest time in surgery, and be among the shorter hospital stays. I found this thread to be very helpful before my bilateral mastectomy without reconstruction:
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/91/topic/...
I was 52 at the time and in good health otherwise. Surgery was at 6:00 AM and lasted about 3 hours. There was no catheter. I was probably on some sort of painkiller for the surgery and immediate aftermath (likely an opiate), but they get you off that as soon as possible. I stayed overnight at the hospital (1 night) and was home by 2:00 PM the next day.
At home, the pain medication was oxycodone HCl (5 mg tablet) plus Tylenol (1 tablet). I chose to take those for a day and a half, then tylenol only. The ladies in the thread above provide comparisons, and many found orthopedic surgeries to be much worse pain-wise.
Maybe others who do not tolerate pain meds and those with diabetes can chime in about their experiences.
BarredOwl
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Talk to your Dr(s) about your health issues that might be complicated with surgery. Concerns about pain and other issues. None of us are qualified to answer them.
For most of us - it's 1 night in hospital. We are each so unique and different.
There should be an Elderly Support (or similar words - different in different cities/states) where you can get assistance for your Mom. Does sometimes take a lot of searching and not giving up, to find the right resources. They are there if you persevere.
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I had a bilateral mastectomy with tissue expander placement, and I thought the pain was very manageable with the pain medication I was given, which was oral hydrocodone and IV Tylenol (loved that stuff). However, I did experience some real discomfort when the pain medications started to wear off, and, of course, it hurts to change position and move at first whatever medications you're on because... surgery. You should not be in a position where there is no relief at all, though, and the nurses need to know if you are. I was in the hospital overnight, and I was told that the reason for that was pain management only. When I went home the next day I did need to stay on top of my painkiller regimen to avoid discomfort, but it was only a few days later (four, I think) that I found the need for narcotics (Tylenol with Codeine in my case) to be unnecessary. I was definitely anxious to get off the narcotics because the constipation they caused was no fun.
Being unable to urinate is pretty serious, and that's something you should address well beforehand, since you know already what your response to pain medications is. Not only is urinating important, but when you're in the hospital they want to know the volume, and they measured mine by putting a container in the toilet. A catheter is not something that is used willy-nilly (I did have one during surgery), but if you need one you should have it. A propensity toward infection is assumed if you have diabetes, and if you are type 2 (I am type 1) they will likely take you off oral diabetes medications and put you on insulin while you are in the hospital. It's a pretty primitive system they have for managing blood sugar, but you should not be out of control, and since I am a real control freak when it comes to blood sugar (I test about 15x a day and log everything that affects my blood sugar) the nurses just let me do as I pleased, although they were the ones who had to do the actual injections. If you're worried about control and you are already on insulin, it would be helpful to make sure you know exactly what your insulin to carb ratio is, what your correction factor is and what your basal dose is before you go in and do any tweaking well ahead of time. Your primary care physician or endocrinologist can help you do these things and make a hospital plan for you. My insurance company actually paid for the services of a Certified Diabetes Educator who was right there in surgery with me.
But here's to hoping your lump is benign and you won't need to bother with any of this!
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I found the BMX to be relatively manageable. Many surgeons are now using a numbing medication (like a novacaine) 'ball". It literally keeps the surgical area numb for up to 4 days. I had that for my reconstruction and felt nothing; by the time the ball was empty, I was well past the worst of it.
The most difficult is moving around the first few days while you keep your elbows tight to your sides. Be sure you have a clean, well-thought out recovery area at home. I was grateful for my recliner! Have plenty of help to keep you well tended, dressing changes, drainage dumping and bathing/bathroom assistance. This is me 48 hours post op after my first shower!
This is me 48 hours post op;
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Jumping the gun, possibly, but you're right that at least finding out the answers to some of these issues NOW will help settle your own mind in the matter. How long can your mother be left alone? (How long would you feel comfortable leaving her alone?) Often there's someone who works for the local cancer care network--nurse facilitator is the term where I live--who's there to help with issues just such as this.
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Thanks all, your responses are comforting. Mastectomy seems a lot less painful than the broken knee and surgery I had. Encouraging!
Saw the picture before it was removed. You were brave to post it and your happy smile was a comfort to see.
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Hi,
I just had a unilateral mastectomy with breast reconstruction on July 29.
1) I stayed in the hospital 2 nights. After my mastectomy and breast reconstruction they noticed a hematoma, so they wheeled me back in for a 2nd surgery. My blood pressure was low, so they monitored me for a 2nd night.
2) In terms of pain, I only pushed the morphine drip 3 times during my stay and did not take any of the pain killers when I got home. I didn't experience pain from the surgery, I had tightness so have used the muscle relaxer medicine. The "pain" I felt was from the drain tubes that were stitched to my skin. If I moved the wrong way it would pull, but you can tape it to your body.
I understand preparing for the worst, and hoping for the best. Keep us updated.
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My MX was a "drive-by",,, outpatient surgery. Home that night. It will depend on if you have recon or other medical issues, or any post op complications,, and the usual protocols at your hospital. Mine do "simple" MX as outpt, barring any complications.As far as pain,, that definitely varies by the person. I will say that mine was not horribly painful. Broken knee actually sounds MUCH more painful.
Not being able to urinate on pain meds is not good. However, there are many different pain meds. Can you take a list of the ones that you had problems with in the past, so that you can be prescribed one that is not on that list?
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I Had double masectomy and I had hip surgery and hip surgery was far worse all the way around. After they removed my breasts I was numb the thing that hurt was the drains and over time much later expanders. Everyone is different so until you know what you are up against and wake up and know what all was removed it's kind of hard to be 100% prepared but I am just like you. Good luck. I was in hospital 3 days.
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Ebonyeyes,
Talk with a social worker about your mother. I was in a similar situation as sole caregiver. My mom had fractured sacrum and dementia on top of that. After a hospital stay to figure out the sacrum her admit diagnosis was FTT (failure to thrive) she was in a nursing home for skilled care and rehab. I would have been unable to lift or manage her post surgery despite her only weighing 80 lbs. The drains were another issue. You need time to heal as well. It was comforting to know that she was being watched 24/7. She never caught on to the surgery or chemo. I did have to limit my visits due to Neutropenic risks.-- Unfortunately she had to be placed on hospice after 2 months and passed away 2 months later..she also had end stage COPD. --
As for the pain. My Uni was and is mostly numb, had a hysterectomy and port placement at the same time. HX caused more cramping and discomfort. I was driving 5 days post-op. 6 months post RMX in 2010 I had a car accident and sustained 6 broken bones. Then 5 months after accident I had incarcerated ventral hernia...the worst pain ever 10/10 for 3 days. Broken bones were next on the pain scale 7/10 and MX 3/10. The toothache I have now from sinus infection is 5/10. It is down to 2-3/10 with Tylenol or Relafen (nsaid) I hope you can find something that can take the edge off so that you can get rest and mend properly.
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