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  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited August 2015

    Congratulations to you Dragonista!

    I'm one week out of treatment and I've had an area about the size of my hand peel from under my arm/side of my breast. I think the worst of the peeling is over now and every day the red seems to tone down a notch. Still using aloe during day and Aquaphor at night (because without it my skin felt very leathery).. Still very tired. Keeping my activity up, but man, I do feel beat. I wonder how long before the energy comes back. Not complaining though. Happy to have a few appointment free days in my life.

  • sailorbev
    sailorbev Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2015

    Dragonista--congratulations on finishing! I hope you feel better every day and can celebrate soon. 

    6 doggies--I had a very sharp pain in my non-surgical shoulder for the first few weeks of radiation. The techs and RO seemed completely unconcerned that I was in pain. I couldn't even get them to make a referral for physical therapy. I had to call my PCP's office for the referral. It is much better now. Today was session 20/36. I am so glad to be on the downward side of this. My husband and I plan to take off on a short sailing trip the day after I finish. It would be a longer trip but I have to return for an appointment with my MO. 

    No weight loss for me during radiation. I had gained 2 lb. since starting and today found out I added another, even though I have been walking 3 miles every day. 

  • DianaNM
    DianaNM Member Posts: 281
    edited August 2015

    Darumama, I hear you. An appointment-free week would really be cause for celebration!

  • dragonista17
    dragonista17 Member Posts: 50
    edited August 2015

    Thanks to everyone for your good wishes!! You all understand what this is like, it's been so helpful to have someplace to read and learn and get good information, and to vent.

    Darurama, hope you continue to heal well. As for the fatigue - ugh. I just plan on sleeping for the week. Can't exercise anyway, so I might as well rest up and heal that way.

    pboi - you're almost at the finish line! See you there shortly. My skin didn't get pink until last week, and now I have a little bit of blistering, nothing terrrible. Hope we both don't get worse

    institches, livedelic, etc etc etc... - great reminders about staying hydrated, and adequate protein. I still need reminders re: hydration.

    Hopeful - strange and disconcerting is an excellent way to describe this whole thing! I think I'll have to "borrow" your words:)

    Hang tight, everyone. I'll be reading here, checking up on how everyone is doing.

  • 123JustMe
    123JustMe Member Posts: 385
    edited August 2015
    Time for me to join the group! Went for a visit at the dear RO today and lo and behold did the stimulation, stickers, and tattoos! First real session....3 weeks after lumpectomy.
    Yikes!
  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited August 2015

    welcome 123. Sorry you have to camp with the rest of us this summer. But you are in good company. When do you start rads now that you had your sim?

  • 123JustMe
    123JustMe Member Posts: 385
    edited August 2015
    Thanks Live! I am starting this Thursday!
  • pboi
    pboi Member Posts: 663
    edited August 2015

    Darumama...did you have the peeling after rads was over? Or did it happen during rads?

    PB

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited August 2015

    Pboi - You're SO close!! Hang in there. Hydrate, exercise and slather. Repeat. ;)

    123 - Welcome to Camp Idonwannaburn. I think we'll put you in the Glow Worm Cabin. ;) Start moisturizing your skin NOW with anything you like. Once you start RT, follow your RO's recommendations. I hope it all goes smoothly for you. How many tx. do you have scheduled?

  • 123JustMe
    123JustMe Member Posts: 385
    edited August 2015
    Oh Hopeful you made me laugh with that one! I'll bring root beer an vanilla ice cream :)
  • 123JustMe
    123JustMe Member Posts: 385
    edited August 2015
    I am in the 33 club :(
  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited August 2015

    Number of treatments and boosts -- My RO would only tell me "7 weeks" pretty much all the way through treatment. He said he wouldn't know about boosts until later and could see how my skin was holding up. Plus, things like holidays and the machine not working for a day or two messed with the dates, anyway! I am only sure about the exact number of regular treatments (28) because I finished them. And I wasn't exactly sure of the boosts (although they did estimate correctly that I would get 8) until today, when they told me that tomorrow would be my last one! YAY!!!

    Aquaphor -- I was given free samples of this by the RO's office, but I barely used it. They told me that Calendula cream and Aloe Vera were good to use-- from day one, 3x a day--and that's what I've been using. I've thrown in some Vit. E cream now and then, since a friend recommended it, and some other stuff, but mostly stuck to the Calendula and Aloe. The Aquaphor was just too goopy! I DID put some one when my skin was at its worst-- around #24...

    No blisters so far! Yay! (although I know some could still happen in the weeks after RT). I got super red in a rectangular area around and including my breast and my SNB incision around #20. Then it started getting darker--brown-ish. I worried if it would get worse, but it didn't. Then the boosts started and they told me I'd get red in the tumor area and skin would peel, but that the rest of the area wouldn't be getting any more treatment and should start getting better--and it IS! Pretty much over the weekend before my boosts, it seemed to settle down (look more tanned and not red/dark). After a week of boosts, the area of the boost was pink, but the rest of the skin was getting lighter. My poor nipple was very dark, but I'm thinking it's getting a bit better, too. And so far, no peeling--although I bet there will be some after. But I worried about blistering and thick peels, but so far the skin looks pretty good considering!

    Boosts -- Hmm... could be the protons/electrons thing is reversed from what I heard. From my very vague recollections of chemistry and physics... I always thought electrons were much smaller than protons, so the reverse from what I was told could be true. Or the tech/assistant could have just mixed up her explanations--or I could have mixed it up!

    I only get a single shot from the machine for my boost-- with the thing positioned directly over me and shooting down at a slight angle. The regular treatments were twice, one from each side of my breast...

    Root beer and ice cream!!!! Yum!!!!

    I've been totally putting on weight! This is not terrible, because I lost a lot during chemo, but if I keep this up I'll be rolling around instead of walking. I haven't been exercising much--had some neuropathy from chemo and it caused me to trip and hurt my ankle, but it's slowly getting better and now that rads is ending I will try and drag my lazy body to the gym (since at least it's air-conditioned there!). ... But ... Root beer Floats! I CRAVE them so bad!!!

    I think that's what I'll celebrate the end of RT with-- some root beer floats!!!! (and I'll try not to fret about all the housework and repairs I've put on hold for the past 8-9 months of treatment).

  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited August 2015

    congrats to all campers wrapping up their daily burn excursions. I plan to join you soon. 6 full breast and 5 boost left for me

  • InStitches
    InStitches Member Posts: 80
    edited August 2015

    Hey 6doggies! I am actually not a vegetarian because I eat fish and seafood so that helps. Also, not vegan because I do eat eggs and milk and cheese. I do not eat chicken or bee for pork or venison. Eggs are great source of protein. I had lentil soup with rice today and that provided about 18 grams. I have found a great milk, Fairlife that has 13 grams of protein. Normally I do not eat a lot of eggs or milk or cheese but right now I am because I am trying to get enough protein.

    It might be helping because this evening I began to feel more like myself with my energy level better. My skin is holding up great. No problems whatsoever at this point. Today was my 17th treatment so I am now on the downward slope.

    Sweet dreams ladies,

    nancy

  • InStitches
    InStitches Member Posts: 80
    edited August 2015

    Root beer and vanilla ice cream sounds delicious!

  • Midgiemoon
    Midgiemoon Member Posts: 174
    edited August 2015

    Fellow campers,

    Quick rant! My skin is a mess, I was prescribed Mometasone cream today, I hope it helps. I am in tremendous pain with 6 more WBR to go before 7 boosts start up. Feeling so weary and just want to be done!

    And,Some one told me I didn't look like I had cancer today. I know I'm fortunate to have my hair, but it's what you can't see that hurts, darn it!

    And, I am feeling guilty because I am trying to work half days but am not productuve at all...


    Thanks, rant over

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited August 2015
    You're getting there, LD!

    123 - 33, hmm? Best bring LOTS of ice cream and root beer in that case. ;)
  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited August 2015

    Midgiemoon -- I hear you on the comments people make. I'm going around with less than an inch of hair and having to wear a wig or scarf and had lost 30lbs during chemo and had to be hospitalized twice and people are "Oh, you look fantastic! I'd never guess you have cancer!"

    I can only guess that they mean it well and are trying to say that all this stuff hasn't marked me as being sick, even if I AM. But it does make me want to go into a detailed explanation of all the stuff that is going on! --I don't, though. I try and be good and smile and just say "Thanks!"

    (Then I come here and talk about all this stuff, cuz you all know how it goes!)

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited August 2015

    Pboi, I didn't start to peel till Friday, which was 4 days after my last rads. I'm still peeling now, but it has slowed down a little. I had my discharge appointment 4 treatments early due to doc's vacation and at that point RO thought my skin looked good and that I wouldn't peel. So those last four tx helped me reach critical mass. Tomorrow I'll see my PS and I'm really curious what she'll think about my skin.

  • JenH2015
    JenH2015 Member Posts: 31
    edited August 2015

    I'm DONE!!! Last boost this afternoon. My daughter came to Seattle with me for the last over night (treatment Monday and Tuesday and then home). We walked our feet off at the Seattle Zoo after the Monday treatment, and hit Chinatown after I finished on Tuesday before hitting the road for the 100+ mile trip home. My skin is holding up quite well - the worst spot is under my breast where I have some sores - the RO prespribed an antibiotic cream to keep those from worsening, and told me to keep up with the lotions for two weeks (a prescription formula called radiagel and a callendula/aloe vera lotion she likes that I had to pick up at a whole foods) and then switch to a thick cream.

    It has been almost 7 months since my diagnostic mammogram (which couldn't detect the lump even though it was easy to feel), and 6 1/2 since I was told that the lump was malignant. I still have to get Heraceptin every three weeks until early March - but I feel that the worst is over. I have been cut up, poisoned and nuked - now I can start putting my life back together.

    Best of luck to all of you who still have time left in camp.

    (And I, too, had my feet rubber banded together - I found it helped me hold my position, the few times the band was loose I was more uncomfortable.)

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2015

    Congrats, Jen!

    I like the band, too. It's not tight, just holds your feet in place.

  • BayouMama
    BayouMama Member Posts: 15
    edited August 2015

    6doggies I don't normally have back problems but I have a lot of trouble getting up from the table after my short treatment. I guess the combination of feet being constrained, the hard metal thing I'm laying on and my arms being above my head.

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited August 2015

    Jen, congratulations on finishing!! And I'm so glad your daughter came over to help you celebrate. It sounds like the two of you had a great time together. I hope your skin continues to do so well. It's interesting that you mentioned Radiagel - I'll be interested to hear what you think of it.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2015

    Asked about the bolus today. The one I get is a rubbery substance "like a stress ball." It's the standard at my clinic. The brass bolus is just coming into use there; it's a brass fabric like a scaly tight chain mail. The tech said he thought the brass worked better, but had some embarrassment about explaining why. I put him out of his misery by saying, "The brass one drapes better for many women because they have breasts and I don't." That's at least part of it--the gel-like one is fine for mastectomy without recon, but leaves air gaps ("which result in greater risk of skin burns") for women with lumpectomy, TEs, or reconstruction, whereas the brass fabric drapes better.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MIhzScisQdI/T6DU01vpfqI/AAAAAAAAAEo/x6r7zhSNyIA/s1600/Brass_chainmail_bolus.jpg

    https://ekeepthefaith.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/bolus.gif

    I admit that "brass bolus" makes me want to say things like, "You really need brass bolus to do radiation."



  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited August 2015

    "I admit that "brass bolus" makes me want to say things like, "You really need brass bolus to do radiation." Absolutely, Susan!

    Thanks for the great visuals, btw.

    I had my boost sim and first boost this a.m. - no bolus involved. Just a single shot from a single angle, using a field shaped by a lead block. My tech was nice enough to show me both the computer sim of the target area with the beam superimposed, as well as the x-ray of the target area and explain what I was seeing. I'll ask her tomorrow if I can get copies of those. I helped a lot to see the x-ray, especially. (That tech has been GREAT. She really gets my interest in understanding the treatment and is very patient with my questions.)

    How is everyone else doing? Enjoying a quiet afternoon reading up on the life of Madame Curie?

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited August 2015

    JenH, Congratulations on finishing!

    Ksusan, Love the pics. That brass bonus is so disco. I had no idea. They used the rubbery one on me.

    I saw my PS today. "This is what we call an acute radiation wound," she said. She told me they won't really know how the implant area fared on the inside till they go to put in permanents in 6 months. Sometimes there is scar tissue inside. Also, sometimes there is post radiation shrinkage. Don't need to see her again till 2 weeks before my surgery in 2016 unless a problem crops up.

    Also saw my MO today. Won't be seeing him again till December, but will be doing port flushes and Lupron shots monthly. I've got one more doc appointment tomorrow with GYN and after that no appointments for almost three weeks! I haven't been that long without an appointment in over 8 months. What to do with all this time? Go on vacation! We leave for Maine Friday. Can't wait.

  • dragonista17
    dragonista17 Member Posts: 50
    edited August 2015

    april and midgie - people say the darndest things... Honestly, I'm continually amazed by what comes out of their mouths! I realize that people who care about me just want this over with. I need to remind myself that their intentions are good, by and large. I fear I've probably said inappropriate things in my pre-cancer days without even realizing it. Still, if one more person tells me how great i sound/look/etc I might have to punch something:)

    hopeful - i had what sound like the same sort of boosts as you. Your Madame Curie comment cracked me up!! Today is my first post-treatment day and I'm relieved not to have to go out, or try to cover up the dark circles, etc. I wish I knew when the fatigue is going to abate, right now I feel the same as yesterday - clobbered. One day at a time.

    darumama- oh my, that sounds so painful. i hope you find relief soon. My RO did tell me my boob would shrink over time (I had a lumpectomy). Right now it's all swollen and the nerve-endings are firing away. Your vacation in Maine sounds divine - I've always loved it there, but haven't been in forever. We were supposed to go on vacation in July, I went to rads camp instead. Thank goodness for cancellation insurance. We're rescheduling, which has kept me going through all this. Have a wonderful trip!

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited August 2015

    Darumama - Ouch. You've really earned that vacation in Maine. Enjoy every day of it.

    Dragonista - My breast is swollen, too. A LOT. She said today that it will take at least a month after end of tx. for it to start to 'deflate.' I hope you can take it easier for a while and get some of your energy back, although I know that, too, can take a while. Glad you had cancellation insurance...

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited August 2015

    Ok I finally have an appointment for my sim- this Monday. They rescheduled it because, and I quote "They are doing training on the new machine earlier in the day". Gulp. I told the nurse I really wasn't comfortable being the first person they throw through their new machine, and what if I wind up in the 4th dimension or something???? She just laughed. Ummmm, I was totally serious. Also, my RO is gone for 2 weeks, so the initial set up will be with a fill in doc. Gulp. Not gonna lie, feelings of trepidation are swelling within my non-existent breast. I do not want some fly by night traveling RO to microwave me by accident!

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited August 2015

    LBF - I certainly understand your trepidation. If it helps any, they usually have a rep. from the medical equipment company on hand during adoption of new technology. You could ask if that will be the case.

    As to the RO - is it another RO on staff at the center or a floater? I would be semi-ok with the former, not with the latter. (And by semi-o.k., I mean maybe. Very reluctantly.)

    In your shoes I think I would call back and ask to speak with your RO and see if there is any way that they can at least do your sim. with your own RO. I do NOT think that's too much to ask. That's just me, though.

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