Chemo in July 2015
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Hi, I had my first treatment on Thursday (7/30). I had TCHP and then the Neulasta shot on Friday. I have had fairly mild SEs. I was fine Thursday and Friday. Saturday I felt like I had been hit by a bus and am now starting to feel better on Sunday. The nurse mentioned that they may want to "speed up" my future infusions but if I have had manageable SEs, I think I would prefer to keep it on the same pace. I think it was perjeta and taxotere that she said they would give me faster next time. Is it true that this could make SEs worse? What would be the benefit to giving the infusions faster? Thanks.
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RuthElizabeth: Beautifully stated; your words brought tears to my eyes.
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Sheri0402 - Only advantage is less infusion time. I talked to my MO about this before my 2nd infusion and she agreed I should keep it the same. It may not have made a difference, but I certainly felt better taking it slow. I'm glad I did. I've managed SE's better than the first and I like the idea of keeping any "variables" similar.
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I've been out of the loop for most of last week. I finally got caught up on the posts. Lots of activity in this group! I just want to say that my poor chemo brain can't keep up with everyone enough to comment individually, but just know that I read each and every post, and my thoughts and prayers go out to all of you. I cry with you, and I cheer for you. And I get so very much out of all the encouragement and sharing of ideas here. And I absolutely love seeing the pictures!
Six days out from my 1st round of AC I watched my temp climb to 103.5 by afternoon. Doc's office said use Tylenol and go to my local ER in the morning if I still have fever. I live 1.5 hours from where I am being treated, but we have a free-standing ER where I live. Long story short, I got treated to an ambulance transport on the hilly, winding roads of the foothills of the Ozarks, riding backwards, looking out the back door windows of the ambulance, on a 100 degree day while wearing a mask, because my WBC count was off the charts low, and I had a "fever of unknown origin". Two antibiotics given IV round the clock, blood draws day and night, and blood cultures. By Friday I was cleared to go home, the MD telling me he had never seen anyone's white count come up from that level so fast (although RBC and platelets still a little low). Never did find out what caused the fever, but I feel almost "normal" now. I wonder what adventures are in store for round 2 on Wednesday.
Hang in there everyone... We got this!
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Faime - glad you are better and love the detail of your ambulance ride .. hope fever does not come back ..
roserx - thanks for stopping by to check in on us and for sharing your tips - we take all we can get!
Ruth - beautifully said - Hugs! Just hope it keeps getting better for you!
Day 3 of 1st AC for me - managing OK - good and bad moments- mainly wiped out today and just want to do nothing - one nagging feeling I have had since Day 1 is that throat feels inflamed like Sinus Junk - sometimes making it hard to swallow without water close by .. I am pretty sure I have read others having this - does it go away?
Hope all are having a happy relaxing se free Sunday!
Mary
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Gorgeous photos Freeandflying!
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Gorgeous photos Freeandflying!
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Hi all - I have been trying to read as much as possible here over the last few weeks. I start chemo tomorrow. I am nervous and apprehensive but most of all eager to get the first one behind me. I like to get things done and checked off the list and my 4 chemo treatments are no different. Get it done. Put it behind me and move forward. So by this time tomorrow night I will be 25% complete! Trying to keep a positive spin on it.
I have been able to enjoy the last two weeks since my July 1st surgery. I had a big birthday, got away for a night with hubby, resumed running and even went paddle boarding today. So I felt a little of my old life return. Hoping that August goes by without too many side effects but I have learned that life is full of surprises. Always best to be prepared for it all.
I am not sure which thread I read this on so if it was this one, I apologize for not giving credit to the person who said it but I do think it's a great like "Women are like tea bags. You don't know how strong they are until you put them in hot water".
So true. Stay strong everyone!
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Hey ladies, thanks for all your advice regarding the nausea!
I do have two anti-nausea medicines I was given- prochlorperazine and lorazepam. The lorazepam I only take at night because it's also for insomnia and anxiety. I have been able to get the nausea under control the last couple of days by staying on top of my meds. Today I finally had a day where I wasn't taking the prochlorperazine every six hours and wasn't too bad. I got some ginger chews which have helped. I also have saltines and ginger ale which helped. I got an aromatherapy oil that has ginger in it as well today and we'll see how that does in controlling without medication; with everything else obviously.
Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it! And thanks for welcoming me here everyone, it's been a scary ride and though I hate anyone to be a part of this club, it helps to know there is this community helping us all through it.
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Hi ladies those of you with small kids. I have a 3 year old & 11 month old. My husband is in the police academy in our area from 12-10pm. We recently moved so family is back home. How have any of you felt with SE & taking care of your kids basically alone My family doesn't seem to be available to come help so they say. We don't have money for s nanny or anything like that.
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Hi Jbankb1 - I wish you had a network of friends you could rely on to help you. Have you met any neighbors or parents of children same age? I have found that people want to help - if there is anyone that you have met, maybe reach out to them and perhaps they can cook you a meal or watch your kids for a few hours a day.
Reach out to people - you will be amazed how supportive they can be. My BS gave me a certificate for a free house cleaning that was from some organization that does it for women who are going through BC treatment. There is free help out there. Ask your doctors.
I hope you get some support. Nap when your kids nap. Put in some disney movies. No guilt. You have to take care of yourself.
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morning friends. Back to chemo #2. This time I'm ready. I had a fantastic week and gained 3 lbs. I wish you all a great day without too many SE's. I'm hoping my gator aid mixture will help me stay hydrated this week.
Jbankb1, try a local church for help. I know the one church in my area, if someone is sick, they cook a meal each day for a month. Also, check with the social worker at the hospital too, they might be able to give you some resources. Good luck.
Also, thanks again for all the encouraging help. My husband has been a bit better since his mother is here. But, I intend to talk to the social worker today about some therapy on how to deal with him when he reverts to his old self.
Love you all Ladies. We will fight this and win.... Sending smiles to each and every one of you today and all week.
Ruth
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Good morning everyone. FreeandFlying and mdoc524 the pictures were beautiful! Thanks for sharing. Mdoc524 I also have the SE of sore throat. Mine is about two weeks now MO said SE of chemo. Some days it worse than others but not intolerable. I am almost 14 days out from first treatment and feel good. My hair is still full but my head has been itching! I bought a bike over the weekend and try to ride a mile a day. I have discovered muscles that I never knew existed! Oh my. But it's fun and as long as I can I want to stay active. My next TCH is next week this Wednesday is herceptin day. Hope everyone has a great day
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hello, chicas!
I could just cut and paste Ruth Elizabeth's first paragraph, except I'm not as confident about being ready. I did feel really good over the weekend, good enough to go to the County Fair on Sunday. No rides for me, looked at lots of livestock, artwork, had some guilt free fried food. I have never in my life been in the position that I wanted to gain some weight! There's something positive from chemo.
Good luck to everyone this week
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Dear Ruth
Hope your tx is going well and you get to "those good days" fast.
I know what you mean by feeling guilty for feeling good. I'm going Thursday, so I know I start over. If I could be guaranteed the first 5 days being horrible, days 5-8 being manageable and 9-14 being normal.... I would sell my soul. So get to those good days quickly
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Suzanne - hope today went well and you feel good getting the 1st one down - I know that feeling.. just want to get started - let us know how you are doing
JandG - I agree with the others - there are most likely so many in your community that want to help .. our Primary Doctor office in cohorts with my kids School Teachers had an online sign up to help - we got home cooked meals every other day and my kids went o other parents homes for after school fun for a few hours .. Reach out to church - your doctor office - nurses would know and the Hospital Social Worker - people want to help. Your kids are really young so maybe there is a Day Care that has young workers looking for extra $$ .. my best baby sitter is my kids Day Care Teacher when they were 3 - she was 24 and baby sat and still does anytime we need her .. My husband is also a Police Officer and he had a hard time with trusting anyone we did not know as did I so that I understand .. Good Luck!!
Peabrain - hope this time no so bad for you
For me - had 1st treatment Friday (AC) - did nothing all day yesterday - felt like a weight on top of me .. Today was able to work but now so constipated and only has been 2 days - been taking Dulcolax everyday and today ate more fruit and salad than I would eat in a week .. this is awful! Oh and gulped down a smaill glass of Prune Juice - NASTY! Any other tips are welcome - trying to use too many meds and get all cramped etc .. Also so so shaky almost unsteady on feet and my sore throat still with me - almost makes you feel like you can't take a deep breath - like you are on the verge of a chest cold - if that makes sense!
Stay Strong, XOXO Mary
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How are you all doing this??? I have never felt so miserable in my entire life.
- I'm on anti-nausea meds and yet I have this constant underlying sensation of being queasy. Trying a new one today, no results yet.
- I have a horrifying rash on my face, chest, and scalp that they thought was shingles but now aren't sure.
- I had to see the oncologist today so he could look at my rash. By the time I got home I was so exhausted my legs were shaking and I vomited. Fatigue is controlling my life.
- I still have diarrhea regularly despite taking Immodium.
- I keep trying to eat but everything tastes like sawdust and swallowing is downright painful. I haven't even bothered today.
I am 8 days out from my first treatment. I feel like I shouldn't still be this bad! My oncologist thinks it might be related to the rash I have (seeing a dermatologist tomorrow for it) and had me do bloodwork to check everything since I'm doing so poorly. I am just so frustrated and angry.
Is anyone else having this much trouble?
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@Miss Bee & Mary - I skipped the rash but was pretty close to miserable until day 11. My current theory is that you have to get the nausea under control, first priority. I wrote a bunch about this a couple of pages ago. Then the constipation/Big D train, taking OTC meds proactively and often, until you hit a spot you can live with (I do not think normal is an option here in chemoland.)
I went for my second treatment today and talked a little more in depth with the nurses about the symptoms I had. Turns out that sore throat feel? It's from the Cytoxan, which creates mouths sores that go all the way down and into your throat. Get a little heartburn going at the same time and it's a deadly combo. I got a prescription for Nexium, to cut down on the acid, and will continue to use Mylanta to coat the lining, Tums as needed in between and Hatrish's handy mouthwash recipe for the mouth sores part. I didn't pay as much attention to this whole combo the first time and ended up not eating anything for two days, it hurt so bad to swallow.
I'll let you know how it goes, and anyone please jump in if you have found the magic tweak.
On another more personal note, my head hair is holding out reasonably well, just starting to leave extra on my towel, but my pubes are leaving the boat in droves. Cowards!
I understand that I cannot reliably expect to lose my leg hair. Since my waxing person left town the same day I was diagnosed (I know, right, what a terrible day), I have let everyone run wild assuming they would all be gone soon. Now it looks like I will have to shave my legs and paste it to my forthcoming bald pate. Sheesh.
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hi everyone. Second chemo down this morning. They changed all my meds. I got decodran ?, not sure what that is. Have to look it up. Amend for nausea, and a steroid this time. I have a herendous headache, but so far, that's it. Came home and slept for 2 hours. Just ate mashed potatoes. Nervous as to what comes next, but the first one was so bad, I think I can handle it. At least I'm trying to stay positive.....
I take senekot for constipation. I'm going to start it today as a precaution. I read some of you did that, so I'm going to try. I also got some probiotic yogurt to try too. Haven't eaten any yet, but will try.
Mary, I'm assuming when you get your red devil, they had administer into the IV. I was told the slower they go with it, the fewer SE. I get three vials over about 10 minutes. And thanks for someone's advice, I ate ice during it. Not sure, but I think it did help keep my mind off my cramping hand. I hope you feel better quickly.
JAnnG, I think and am hoping, since the first one was so bad, that at least I know what to expect and anything better will be so appreciated. And remember, we can go I for fluids. I went 3x in two weeks. It was my saving grace. I'm hoping not to do that.... I want to try to do it right this time.... Good luck to you too.
Thanks Peabrain. You get me, haha. I'm so trying to find laughter in it all. I was ready to put this one behind me too. My daughter keeps telling me I'm 50% thru.... I like the sound of that...
A little funny.... I was so excited that I lost weight. My weight the day they told me I had the big C, was 199. I have struggled with it for over 30 years. Lost a lot of weight after my husband died of cancer, met new hubby and gained it all back. So when I dropped to 182, I was soo happy. But, this past week, I ate almost normal. Even had some sweets, which packed on the 3 lbs. it's pretty bad feeling like crap but loving the scale. Haha! I did start walking a bit. And hope I can continue to. I guess what I'm trying to say, this is one advantage of the chemo, along with zapping those seeds we definately need gone...
Love, peace, health, and especially smiles go out to each and every one of you, my friends.
Ruth
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Peabrain: Thanks for the levity, I needed it! Tomorrow's Round 3 for me. Woo.
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missbee123: I am so sorry you are having such a hard time. I hope you can get a handle on everything and figure out what all is going on. Positive thoughts your way.
Ruth: decadron is also a steroid they give to help prevent reactions.
Well I had TC round 2 last Thursday. Sunday was my rough day. Muscles in back, arms and legs very sore. I could not stand for anyone to touch my body because of the soreness. I was also very fatigued and could hardly function. Just a tad nauseated but nothing big. Tried one dose of compazine (instead of zofran since zofran increases constipation) and that did the trick. Went to bed at 6pm and slept pretty much through the night till 6am.
Today I feel much better. Muscle pain just about gone. Eating well. Been taking colace in am and pm that has prevented constipation. Yea!! One major side effect: gas. 😁 not sure from colace or chemo. Able to walk Sunday and today about 15 minutes and hoping tomorrow I can get back to my 30 minutes.
Losing all hair on the sides of my head and the top has a few bald places. Glad I got it buzzed earlier.
I gained 7 lbs this treatment but down 3 lbs today. I think from the steroids that they give me. Walking seems to help get rid of the weight. Really have to watch my appetite from the steroids as I am hungry a lot which is different since I had my bil mastectomy and reconstruction. Have lost 34 lbs since surgery and want to lose 46 more before revisions but need to wait till chemo is completed before dieting.
Hope everyone has an easy treatment week with no or few SEs.
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mdoc- ok my 6th night of constipation I ate 4 ripe ripe apricots, 15 or so prunes, a tall glass of prune juice, a handful of walnuts and a few candied figs and slammed a bunch of water. Within 30 min my intestines started to bubble and haven't had real problems since first infusion!
Peabrain- same thing. Pubic hair made a sudden mass exit and I was like OK bye ...then couple days later the head hair shed started. It shed for about a week.
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Hi all - first treatment went very well! The taxotere they introduced slowly so that took a long time. Then on to cytoxen. That was an hour. The penguin caps were the most challenging. I hope they work as they are a hassle. But we shall see. Thanks for all the encouraging words. I was pretty encouraged that they day went so smoothly. Love to all!
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MissBee I am complete there with you. Chemo has taken such a toll on me and the fatigue is something I can't describe. I can't relate anything I've experienced before to how fatigued and vulnerable and sick this makes me feel. I have only started to feel ok on day 10 or11.
Be gentle to yourself and know that you aren't alone!
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@Free, both great pics! I've lost about 80% of my hair now and have clipped it very short myself. I bought a scarf and a couple caps/hats over the weekend, but also picked out a wig. I haven't gotten it yet though since this insurance guy couldn't answer my questions about reimbursement and I know I have coverage for it. Anyway, I hope to get it this Friday, and by that time with a good shampooing, my hair will probably all be gone!
@mdoc, glad to hear you're doing pretty well with SEs after your first treatment and thanks for sharing your photo; love the shirt!
Hugs and best wishes to all you fabulous ladies; we've got this!
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Wish me luck, ladies - I'm off to dance with the Red Devil in the pale fluorescent light...
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Good luck Erika!
I am about 6 days post treatment #2. Feeling more and more human each day. The weekend was definitely "the hit by a bus" side effect. Even my cheekbones ached. It was rough.
Other than that, I STILL have hair! (Technically I am on day 28 or so of chemo)- I always had a thick head of hair, but this is just crazy. It's getting super patchy, and I cover it when in public, but I may actually have to get it buzzed down again.
Pubic hair is as stubborn as my head hair, apparently 😜
The worst side effect for me has been the heartburn. I'm taking Zantac as needed- anyone taking Prilosec? Or something else? i'm a bit of a heartburn newbie (for the record, I'm pretty much a newbie to being sick. I barely had more than a bottle of Advil in my house prior to this).
Wishing you all a strong, healthy week! And good luck to those receiving treatment.
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good luck, Erika!
For heartburn, based on nurses' recommendations, I got prescription Nexium, OTC Pepcid, Mylanta, Tums. I take the Nexium in the morning, but it's still kicking in. Then Pepcid until the Nexium kicks in. Mylanta maximum dose before I try to eat anything in the morning, more Mylanta and Tums as needed through the day. Lots and lots of water and the baking soda gargle about 4x per day.
Last cycle I didn't do any of this and was in a world of hurt. This is my new regimen and I'm hoping this second treatment goes smoother. So far so good but only on Day 2.
It looks like someone old moved into my bathroom
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morning.
Adarkadaptedi, I ate ice during the red devil. Someone suggested it, I think it helped a little. I have very thin crappy veins, and she told me this time she pushed the red devil and then used a little flush in between. It wasn't as bad as before. Maybe it will help you too.... Good luck
I had a good first day. Woke up this morning with just a little nausea, took a composine, walked a mile, my new must try to do. Haha. Clears my mind. Off at lunchtime for my shot. Here's hoping for an ok day. And wishing all you friends for the same. Rut
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Massive hair loss after treatment #2, Day 16 from first chemo. Today's got to be the day for the big shave. I hate hair in the drain.
I'll post a photo when the deed is done. First, a little Claritin and Neulasta combo. Can't believe I'm taking two drugs that advertise on TV!
Luck to everyone else in the chair today
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