July 2015 Surgery Sisters
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After 3 weeks and 2 days, I finally hit 26mL of drainage on each side, and I was able to get my drain tubes out. I didn't feel anything inside the foob as she removed it, but the insertion point definitely gave me a stabbing and burning sensation as she pulled the tube out. It was maybe a 6/10 on my pain scale. Luckily, it lasted about 7 seconds, and we were done. The flat drain went at least 8-10" into the front part of my foob between the skin and the muscle.
I'm still having bad spasms from my recent TE fill, but I can move much more freely now. I can feel a light indent on each side where the drain was, but it should fill in as my fills continue.
Overall, it was worth it. I feel like I'm finally over the hump and can move on to PT exercises and recovery. I see the RO next week, so I'm hoping we can slow down the TE inflations a bit if I still have a few weeks before rads begin.
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Indygal, congrats on losing your drains!
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went to the PS yesterday but didn't get to lose the drain. The PS did strip it - ouch. I was wondering how it felt when it was removed. Thanks for the info Indygal.
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Lucky ladies getting drains out!! Yay!!
I'm still stuck with one drain. 3 weeks today and today was the first day I was under 100ml. I am so ready to get this out!! But it is like a bitter sweet thing too because Im so scared of the next step of treatments...which will very soon follow. Freaking terrified is more like it.
Everything else seems to be getting better/ much less painful but I do find if I go out to the grocery store, water the garden, and clean a bit, it wipes me out by late afternoon. And at night, pinchies and twinges.
My mom is back after 2 months of taking care of her sister. My son went and got her...she lives with me. She doesn't know yet. I didn't/couldn't tell her when she got back tonight. She has no idea, not a clue, and will be devastated. She's so relieved her sister just had a benign mass removed from her colon and while she was down there her brother was diagnosed with oral cancer. He just got a clear pet scan and she was estatic about that. Now I have to break it to her that I have stage 2 breast cancer with node involvement??? It feels surreal.... I'm freaking out about telling her. She's 83. OMG when she hears chemo, radiation, hormone blockers....OMG!!!
I can't sleep, I'm so worked up.
How is this happening???
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Those of you who had alnd, do you feel something that feels like crawly or like drips going down your side? I have only occasionally pain on my breast where the mass was removed, my nipple hurts because she removed a lot of calcification behind the nipple. The rest of the pain is axillary which is tender and pinches as well. I am supposed to get my drain out on Tuesday. I am hoping that helps as well.
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Mira. . .Hugs to you. My mother is a doctor who now has Alzheimers and lives several states away. I was afraid to tell her as well, so I told my younger aunt who lives across from my mother. When I did finally talk to my mother she had an amazing understanding. Her long term memories especially ones are intact. I know it's hard but you will feel better after.
Scottie
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I had surgery (Lumpectomy) on 7/24/15 along with sentinel node dissection and removal. I spoke to BS yesterday afternoon and she mentioned that she sampled 7 nodes and all were clear and she got clear margins. Has anyone had a small less than 2 cm IDC with no node involvement and still had chemo? I am hoping once I talk to the MO/RO it will be radiation and tamoxifan for me only.
Thanks
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Hi Admonkey,
Congratulations on clear margins and no node involvement!!
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I met with the MO today. She said that she only recommends an oncotype if the patient is sure they don't want chemo if it comes back with low recurrence odds. She had someone in that situation who decided she wanted chemo and insurance denied it it the first time around.
It's my decision, but even if the oncotype comes back predicting low recurrence, she recommends chemo. My nodes and margins were clear, but tumor is 3.5 cm. that makes it a stage 2. The oath report said that the status of lymph vascular invasion is indeterminate.
She recommends five years of hormone suppression, and 4 rounds of chemo 3 weeks apart.
I left there feeling very depressed. For some reason my internal talk just keep saying it's gonna come back and I'm not going to live a long life. It's nothing she said, just me.
Really down this evening. Missing my mom who passed 3 years ago, and having a dip in the pity pool.
In other insignificant, but strange news, a guy I haven't talked to in 35 years wrote to me out of the blue telling me how he was so much in love with me and I just left him. I HAD NO IDEA. I wondered if he was drunk, but he said the same thing last night. The. I started thinking about people I may have hurt and didn't intend to, and well, my inner dialog is jacked up.
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the onco test also depends on what type (er + etc)= If you had no node involvement and a dependent on staging, to still have chemo no matter what is pretty extreme, IMHO. If you have a low onco score it should preclude (with hormonal treatment) needing chemo. Thats my opinion only and from reading on the boards. Maybe get a second opinion.
Ive also never heard of rads after bmx but I dunno.
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pathology report back, pure DCIS! Who hoo! But it's bigger than expected, 6cm instead of 1.7cm and while he got negative margins, one was close, less than 1mm. he wants to wait until after my genetic tests come back and then decide if he should go back in or if I should have a bmx.
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Thanks, Aviva. My surgeon seems to be the only one thinking I may not need chemo. The team wanted me to have it before surgery to shrink the tumor. She disagreed,mbecause she said she's seen 4 cm rumors that didn't need chemo.
CAMommy, Great news!! Happy for you!
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SWEET, Paddymom! Congratulations!!
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Carolyn, I would get a second opinion, as Aviva suggested, especially with clear margins. It seems like Oncotype is the standard now for determining recurrence risk. Sending you hugs and prayers. Remember we are all here for support especially when you need us most.
CAMommy. . .congrats on only DCIS. I hope they are waiting on genetic results and BMx decision before moving forward with rads. BMx would or should mean no rads.
Scottie
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On day 5 post op from BMX and Left sentinal node biopsy. 4 drains in and they're doing their thing and I'm managing ok. The tremendous swelling has surprised me though as it's very uncomfortable and concerning but I'm watching it closely (I'm a former R.N.,can't help it)
The amount of love and support I have received has been amazing. You truly find who your friends are in times like these. I wish the same for all of you. I meet with the PS on the 12th and BS on the 19th to find out whats next for me.
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Lindy, so glad surgery went well. Make sure you aren't overdoing. Swelling is expected. Did they give you a muscle relaxer? If not, call. They help. Hugs
Scottie
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Glad you're doing well, Lindy, and that people are showing up for you.
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Sounds like you have a very supportive network Lindy, that is awesome! Hope your healing continues to be on track
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I have been following all of you since I joined this group and had my surgery July 6. It's now August and we can breathe a little! For some of you, the "worst" might be behind you...and for others (like me) it might be yet to come (aka - chemo). You are all so brave and so willing to share! I admire you and have so much respect for all your decisions and tenacity in figuring this all out and marching forward! Best of luck to all of you. I'm taking the month of Aug off and I am going to enjoy the rest of summer. I will refocus on this lousy card that's been dealt in Sept when I start chemo. Gentle ((HUGS)) everyone!
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Enjoy your time off sailorgirl15
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sailorgirl15, I liked reading that. We are in similar situations. I love the idea of taking August off, enjoying it and refocusing in September. I'll prob be starting chemo then too.
Now if I could just get this final lousy lingering drain out, I'll then focus on that mindset!!
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I can't shake the sad feelings since meeting my MO yesterday. To be clear, she didn't say I shouldn't have the oncotype. In fact, she has the paperwork ready to go if I want it done since she'll be on vacation next week. She did warn me that one of her patients was denied chemo when hers came back low, but she was able to write a letter and have the chemo approved for her. She feels that even if it's low, I should go for the chemo especially since my oath depots said that the presence of lymphatic involvement was indeterminate. Nodes are clear. Margins are clear.
My husband thought she talked too fast, and he didn't really like her. It was a letdown for me because my BS and PS are so upbeat and their offices exude a happy vibe. Moo wasn't necessarily a downer, just not the smiling face I expected.
I think I'm also feeling a letdown because prior to surgery I was going out and enjoying my time off (I'm a school nurse), and preparing for it almost like a vacation. New jammies, getting the house clean, arranging meals for the family. Now I'm getting bored and spending too much time in the house. It's pretty hit in Florida right now, though.
Just hoping to feel some sort of a lift soon and feel better about my doc. -
10 days post and I got 5 out of 6 drains removed. Yay!! It feels sooo much better. The PS said it might be a record for his office, lol! But the scary part is now I'm only two weeks out from starting chemo... Booooo.
Carolyn62, I felt the same way when I first met my MO, but I later realized that the surgeons are by comparison, in general, more upbeat. Their part is strictly physical, cuts and stitches, in and out, whereas the MO's part is systemic, chemical, and much more treacherous, balanced. This comes across in their manner, which is more serious than the surgeons. And it really should be. It's not a one and done procedure and they are largely responsible for your care from now on.
That said, I've met with my MO since then and I'm very comfortable with him and how seriously he takes it. If you're not comfortable and/or you don't feel like you're getting the best care, please go for a second opinion. Maybe you could ask on the boards for recommendations in your area.
May I also gently suggest you see if there are any counseling/group programs in your area? Cancer is such a powerful and personal illness to combat and it impacts our lives and triggers emotions on so many levels. Sometimes talking to family is not the best answer because they're going through their own emotions. A support program may help you better face these decisions and challenges. -
Carolyn, please get a referral from someone you know to another MO. Even if it's for just a backup opinion. My MO is my most important doctor even though it seems like BS and PS should be because of the surgeries. MO will be with me one a regular basis for years and she takes the time to talk things through. Also, as Bunny said, a support group would really help.
Bunny. . .yeah on the drains. Are you able to get around more now? I totally overdid again today. Had to go out for a bit but it was tax free weekend in GA so Sam's Club turned into a major trip. In my defense though, I tied my purse to the cart and DH pushed it again, so I was really just walking, but came back feeling like I had the flu ugg.
Scottie
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Naughty! Scottie, you really know better... Haha. I know. As soon as I got the five out, I felt free and light, like I could conquer the world! So I went home and took a nap. Please take it easy. You can't rush your recovery, your body won't let you, and then will let you know about it in no uncertain terms!! Easy, squeezy, lemon peezy!
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Scottiemom: I almost did something similar today...hubby decided to make a Costco run. I almost went with him, but glad I didn't, as he was gone almost three hours! (Costco is only a 15 min drive from our house, max).....Fortunately the damage to our bank account wasn't too awful, as it turns out that much of that time was first spent browsing at the hardware store. Poor guy, I guess he needed a break.... :-)
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Hi everyone - I just thought I would share that I am one month + from my single mastectomy and node removal and I am feeling great. I even went paddle boarding today. I can now almost straighten my arm above my head without pain. I noticed a big difference from week 3- week 4 in my recovery. So those of you who just had surgery - you will feel better soon! I just wish I was done but I start chemo tomorrow. I had a two week period where I was drain free and feeling pretty good. Hopefully chemo won't be too bad. One can only hope. I even ran 8 miles today. Life is good despite BC.
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Suzanne50, so nice to read your report as one of the first July surgery sisters and glad you were able to enjoy some time on the water today! Please let us know how chemo goes, will think good thoughts for you.
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Octogirl. . .we have memberships to Sam's, Costco and BJs. . .we practically live at Sam's using pharmacy,optical, bakery, photo, tires, all our electronics and office supplies and regular food stuffs. Luckily we don't get to Costco often because none are close. Our tabs there are usually in the $300+ range. We are going to Costco next Sat. when we pick our son up from his summer with his cousin and Aunt. Good thing Dh is getting paid first, he already spent my salary at Sam's yesterday lol.
Bunny. . .I have been good today. Just church and grocery store to replenish my sparkling ice for this coming week. Although I apparently need something stronger than green tea and colace. I have reverted to lucky charms. Total junk food, but they work everytime. I hope you are finally getting around a bit. Hugs to you.
Suzanne. . .wow you are doing great. I did not have even half my range of motion back at 6 weeks post BMx when I went back to work. PS wanted to refer me to PT but I figured it was best to wait until after EX. Getting referral tomorrow hopefully.
Scottie
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I just want to chime in here and THANK YOU ladies so very much for posting your journey and tips. I've read all 23 pages over the course of 2 days, and have taken so many notes for myself who is having sx this Thurs.
Wish you all well and thanks much again!
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