Just Diagnosed - Freaking Out About Grade 3

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Susan_H
Susan_H Member Posts: 6
edited August 2015 in Just Diagnosed

Hi everyone,

I was just diagnosed yesterday with a 2 cm Infiltrating Ductal Carcinoma in my right breast. I never felt a lump - it was found via mammogram. I do have a strong family history but my mom, aunt and grandmother all got it later in life. I'm 47.

I'll be meeting with the surgeon in the next week or two (because of my family history and how quickly this appeared I've already decided on a mastectomy of both breasts - I'm fine with that).

What scares me the most right now is this is a Grade 3. On the ultrasound/sonogram my lymph nodes did not appear swollen however I know this doesn't rule anything out. Is it possible to have a Grade 3 and not for it to have spread?

I'm finding comfort in all of your stories. My mom, grandmother and aunt are all survivors but none had an aggressive form, which apparently I do have.

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  • DSW1976
    DSW1976 Member Posts: 118
    edited August 2015

    Sorry you are going through this but you found the best place to be.  Write down all your questions and more for your Dr. and chances are they will answer most before you get a chance to ask hopefuly. Take someone with you to do this because you will be dealing with so much have them write everuthing down.  You will feel so much better like these wonderful ladies always say once the plan is in place.  Good luck hang in there. You will be okay .

  • Morwenna
    Morwenna Member Posts: 1,063
    edited August 2015

    I don't think there are any hard and fast rules. My final diagnosis was a tumor extending beyond 8cm, and it was grade 3 triple negative.

    I was found to have just one sentinel node affected, with a 0.25 cm macrometastasis. Somebody expressed surprise that I could have such a large area of grade 3 tumor and only one node affected! So far I am NED since completing my treatments, but still a little anxious until I reach the 5 year mark!

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited August 2015

    Yep, lots of people have had Grade 3 cancer without it spreading to the nodes or elsewhere. My Grade 3 cancer did spread to one node, though. While you won't know if your MO recommends chemo for awhile, chemo is a very effective treatment for Grade 3 cancer because chemo attacks cells that are quickly replicating. I had five months of chemo before surgery (neoadjuvant), and it wiped out the active cancer in my breast and compromised node. Best wishes to you!

  • bevin
    bevin Member Posts: 1,902
    edited August 2015

    HI there, I am sorry you are going through this. I can understand your fear; I had grade 3, 2.1 cm tumor and no lymph node involvement. I am coming up on 5 years , without issue and can come off my antihormonals in December. I was 45 at diagnosis. Praying you too will be fine and it sounds like you're in good hands with your doctors.

  • Cowgirl13
    Cowgirl13 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited August 2015

    One very positive thing about grade 3 is that it responds very well to chemo. Oh, I just noticed Elaine posted this fact.

    I was grade 3 and that was 6 years ago. I am doing fine.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited August 2015

    Susan_H, welcome to BCO and know that we are all thinking of you. Many have given some great advice and shown how well they are doing. Please keep us posted on how you are!


  • Susan_H
    Susan_H Member Posts: 6
    edited August 2015

    Thank you all for your encouragement. I hope to be hearing from the surgeon in the next day or two to set up an appointment. I think I will feel a lot better after my appointment. Ready to get this nastiness out of my body. I'm ok with whatever treatment plan they give me. I just want to be here to see my grand children - I'm 47 and want a long, happy life to look forward to.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited August 2015

    Let us know how you are doing! We too want you to have a long happy life!


  • windingshores
    windingshores Member Posts: 704
    edited August 2015

    I had grade 3, high ki67, and lymphovascular invasion (focal). (Another hospital later had me at grade 2, with a tiny difference in scores, so these grades aren't absolute.) I was also told I was HER2+ at first from biopsy but later turned out to be negative. All of these things had me highly anxious at the beginning.

    Ultimately, after three opinions, I stayed at grade 3 but did not need chemo. Even with positive lymph nodes, not everyone needs chemo.

    Most docs are now going by the Oncotype score, a test that gives risk of recurrence percentages based on assumed use of Tamoxifen (nowadays those of us over a certain age use a different kind of anti-hormonal medication).

    My Oncotype score was very low and my MD's told me I was fortunate and was most likely going to do well. So I went from thinking I was a terrible case to being told, basically, that I was lucky.

    I called the Oncotype company to ask how I could be grade 3 but have a low score and they told me 30% of grade 3's have low scores. So you have a chance at a lower score than you might think.

    Your tumor's responsiveness to hormones (and therefore to anti-estrogen treatment) is very important- though even when triple negative, one of the posters here is still doing well. But overall, a highly positive estrogen (and progesterone) will mean a lower Oncotype.



  • lynn61
    lynn61 Member Posts: 26
    edited August 2015

    I was diagnosed with a 1.5, grade 2 IDC at biopsy with no sign of lymph node involvement on ultrasound. I had a lumpectomy and Sentinel Node Biopsy, the pathology from surgery indicated 1.2 cm, grade 3 with no lymph node involvement. Try to stay in the moment with what you know and not let your mind get ahead of you. Right now the ultrasound showing no swollen lymph nodes is a positive thing so try and keep your mind on that.

    Once you have all the info and a plan it does it get easier.

  • lynn61
    lynn61 Member Posts: 26
    edited August 2015

    Just read this on another thread from a post quite a while ago but wanted to share as it may help all of us

    Another husband with a b/c wife passed along something to my husband that helped us immensely - "Don't go there until you get there." Meaning, deal with what you have going on now, and don't spend time worrying about things down the line that might never happen. It made so much sense to both of us, and we pretty much have adopted it as our mantra. Think of it this way - if the worst never happens, then you've thrown away hours of your life worried and stressed about something that never even happened. And if the worst does happen, deal with it then. If it's going to happen, worrying about it now won't prevent it, and all those precious hours spent worrying were hours you could have been spending with your wife and kids.

  • zayb
    zayb Member Posts: 83
    edited August 2015

    I had grade 3 triple negative cancer T2 over 6 years ago. No lymph node involvement. I am having some ambiguous breast issues now on the other side, but it has nothing g to do with the high grade triple negative bc that I completed treatment for in 2009. Good luck. Chemo works well on high grade!

  • lovelifeBR
    lovelifeBR Member Posts: 41
    edited August 2015

    So glad to hear that you are doing well. I go in for my pathology report today so I then will no the grade of my tumor and stage. I am ready to get on with a treatment plan. I know it won't be easy, but here I go. How many weeks were you on AC + T?

  • ml143333
    ml143333 Member Posts: 658
    edited August 2015


    Susan - I was diagnosed in July 2014 with IDC stage 1, grade 3 and had no nodes involved.  Due to my oncotype score of 23, I did go through with chemotherapy and finished in April 2015.  I'm coming up on the one year anniversary of my BMX and so far an NED.

  • Joy-Anna
    Joy-Anna Member Posts: 24
    edited August 2015

    Hi Susan, I was diagnosed with stage 3a, two lymph nodes under my right arm were affected. One node was 3.7cm and the other was smaller. I started chemo on July 1st. My oncologist can't feel the tumor under my arm anymore. I found that pretty amazing because you could totally feel it before. I just completed my 4th chemo of Andriamycin two days ago (did I spell that right- sorry I'm tired!) and have twelve more weeks of weekly chemo....... But thank God I'm done with the four big ones. The mammogram didn't pick up the cancer, I found the lump under my arm. So next step is genetic testing although I think I'll get the BMX since I'm triple negative 3a, no matter what. My point is, the chemo does seem to work well on stage 3 triple negative, as the other women have said. I've had a similar experience. Hugs to you all sisters!!!!!


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