Fatigue and tamoxifen?

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Anxiousmama
Anxiousmama Member Posts: 92
Fatigue and tamoxifen?

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  • Anxiousmama
    Anxiousmama Member Posts: 92
    edited October 2009

    Just wondering if anyone has experienced fatigue while taking tamoxifen. I'm not really sure if it's the meds or I'm just still not back to normal after my radiation. I finished radiation about 3 weeks ago and I had some extreme fatigue from that (well, for me, lol - sleeping about 4 hours a day more than usual and still feeling kinda tired). I started tamoxifen the day after radiation ended and now, 3 weeks later, I'm still feeling only slightly less tired. I go to bed right after (or before) my kids do and can barely wake in the morning and spend the day feeling like I need a nap...

    Just wondering if I can expect this to last the next 5 years or if it's just still exhaustion from the radiation?  Thanks for any input. 

  • charmd
    charmd Member Posts: 118
    edited October 2009

    I finished rads at the end of Sept and started on Tamox immediately after.  The fatigue is pretty bad currently.  I'm pretty sure it's most likely due to the rads since it started while I was in treatment.  Also, I have a friend who told me that she felt this kind of unrelenting fatigue for about 6 months post rads, and she didn't take Tamox.  My own two cents is that our bodies are trying to heal after all they've been through, and just like when our kids are sick and want to sleep all day, sleep is the body's fastest road to renewal. Hang in there.

  • Anxiousmama
    Anxiousmama Member Posts: 92
    edited October 2009

    Thanks. I hope it goes away soon. It's so hard to get everything I need to do done and now that rads are over, my "free pass" seems to be gone, if you know what I mean. Oh well. I'll just keep trying to get to bed as early as I can and wait it out!

  • kle
    kle Member Posts: 317
    edited October 2009

    Just to throw my experience in.  I'm on Tamoxifen for almost a year....also very tired all the time, even when I have a good nights sleep.  My issue - no rads or chemo..so I can only blame it on the Tamoxifen.  

    kle

  • krissy
    krissy Member Posts: 8
    edited October 2009

    I'm tired all the time too, without having chemo or radiation.  Been on tamoxifen a little less than 2 yrs.

  • vivvygirl
    vivvygirl Member Posts: 435
    edited October 2009

    Kle & Krissy,

    My experience is the same ,no rads or no chemo, only tamoxifen and I am tired all the time.

    Have been on tamoxifen for 6 months

    Hugs

    Viv

  • annag39
    annag39 Member Posts: 4
    edited October 2009

    Anyone have breathing issues assoc. w/a hot flash?  maybe a panic attack? Dunno?

  • brendy
    brendy Member Posts: 37
    edited October 2009

    I am also more tired on tamoxofin and my sleep seems lighter with more dreams I wake up tired. Does this go away in time I've been on the medication for 4 months? Thanks Brendy

  • krissy
    krissy Member Posts: 8
    edited October 2009

    Hi everyone!

    Something to look forward to when finishing up tamoxifen therapy is the possibility of having a little more energy to work with!  Even though I'm tired from the moment I get out of bed in the morning, it seems like it's OK getting through the day and even being able to concentrate isn't too bad.  The onc tried to tell me that the fatigue is advancing old age (I'm 52).  My husband and I are still laughing about that one.  Seems like doctors do NOT want to hear about side effects at all. Oh well, it's good for a giggle.

    Love,  Kris

  • Curlylocks
    Curlylocks Member Posts: 1,060
    edited October 2009

    I am on Armidex and feel fatigued too.  Exercise does help but I very rarely feel like I have had a good nights sleep.  I am on effexor (75 mg) to combat hotflashes, immovane for sleep as Armidex causes insomnia for me....being shoved into menopause at age 42 didnt help either!!!

     I am post menopausal, had ovaries out last year....3 years out of treatment, 4 years since diagnosis.

    All in all I am happy to have a drug to help with preventing reoccurance even if it makes you tired.  I guess I have adjusted to my "new normal" at age 45 and I am alive and NED.

    To all you ladies struggling with s/e's especially joint pain--Gloucosomine Chondrontin (sp?) helped me alot!

    Michele

  • AnneW
    AnneW Member Posts: 4,050
    edited October 2009

    I started Tamoxifen 4 weeks after rads. My fatigue was way more profound on Tamoxifen. I blamed rads initially. Then, I just couldn't process my thoughts. I lost 15 pounds in 6 weeks (I should never have complained about that!) After stopping the tamoxifen, my mind improved but my energy didn't too much till I got on an antidepressant...

    Hope things get better for you soon!

    Anne

  • bakershill
    bakershill Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2009

    Hi all! I stumbled upon this forum while I was searching for ways to combat fatigue.

    Even though I have been taking tamoxifen since Feb. of 2007 I was beginning to think I was using it as an excuse or making it up or something.

    Nope.

    I went through a time in the beginning where I was just exhausted and could fall asleep in my food - so long as I could stand to smell or see food given the extreme food aversions.

    Now I am just tired. I have permanent circles under my eyes and of course I have gained a lot of weight since the only food I seem to be able to get around is "comfort food". The gain of weight doesn't help the fatigue. The bad nutrition doesn't help. The lack of exercise doesn't help. The depression because of all of this doesn't help.

    Okay...so what do we do about it?

    I'm tired of being tired.

    Nice to have read your posts! We all seem to be in the same boat. All we need is a paddle.....

  • Kleenex
    Kleenex Member Posts: 764
    edited December 2009

    bakershill - I know just what you mean about the spiraling vortex of this fatigue. I have been on Tamoxifen for just over a year - rads, but no chemo - and my energy level is pathetic. Sometimes it can be attributed to a rough night of hot flashes which make me feel in the morning as if I was up all night with a newborn baby or something.  If I'm a bit tired and grumpy, I'm not good about getting exercise, which leads to more fatigue. And especially this time of year, comfort food is especially appealing and totally unhelpful! I have not gained any weight, which is kind of miraculous, but my muscle tone is not great after a year of this. If I could just get someone to come to my house and slap me into getting more exercise, perhaps that would help me start an upward spiral. But so often, a NAP just seems like what my body needs...

    Let me know if you see that paddle. I think I'm using a fork. Or a spork.

  • jennjo
    jennjo Member Posts: 1
    edited December 2009

    Wow, this is so comforting to hear everyone going through this fatigue. I started Tamoxifen in Sept. 2 months after radiation. I waited because I hate taking medications and was very worried about the mood changes that can occur with hormonal treatment and now research shows that the anti-depressants they used to give to help - decrease the effectiveness of Tamoxifen. I was also scared of the very small but real risk of stroke and uterine cancer. But I have 2 children 5 and 9 and I felt I needed to do all that I could to win the battle completely.

    I was starting to feel great before the Tamoxifen, my ovaries were kicking in gear again (lost period due to chemo that ended in April) and my hair was covering my head at least, and I had most of my energy back. And now it takes tremendous effort to get up - from anywhere - I just want to stay where ever I am and not move. I'm not thinking clearly and feel foggy - almost like the chemo days but not as extreme.

    As soon as the hair came back, I didn't look sick and so basically everyone expected me to be back to my old self. My neighbors who were wonderful during chemotherapy disappeared and my family who lives 12 hours away stopped coming down. I feel completely overwhelmed and off-track from where I had been through-out my entire diagnosis and treatment. I was so energized to get through it all and put on a good face for myself, my kids and family, and it worked. But now I just want to sink into the couch and sleep!

    I desperately want to stop taking this drug but I am terrified of stopping. When looking at the treatments the one that increases my survival rate the most is taking Tamoxifen.  

    I feel better at least that I am not alone in my fatigue. 

    This is my first post and it feels great to write and share with people who truly KNOW what you're saying.

    Thanks:) 

  • seagan
    seagan Member Posts: 166
    edited December 2009

    I'm 6 months into Tamoxifen and also struggling with fatigue.  I feel sleepy so much of the time, even though I'm eating well, exercising frequently, and trying to do all the good "sleep hygiene" things they talk about.  I too at first chalked it up to residual radiation effects, but rads ended in late June and it's difficult to believe it could still be that.

    I've been checking into every angle I can think of, and it's baffling.  Most recently, I went to an endrocrinologist, who checked my thyroid, adrenal, and blood sugar levels, and everything checked out fine.  This week, I did an overnight sleep study (which included an all-day nap study!) to see if they could figure something out.  I won't know the results of all that until January, but they didn't see any "pathologies" in the initial readings.

    My gut sense is it's related to the tamoxifen.  And it's not so much my sleep at night that's affected (I've been a light, odd sleeper for years).  It's this persistent sleepy feeling during the day that I can't shake, accompanied by cloudy thinking and poor short-term memory. 

    As for what to do about it, I just don't know. I guess I'm trying to come to peace with it, finally, and accept that it's a trade-off for keeping well, but it's hard. 

  • jillyG
    jillyG Member Posts: 401
    edited December 2009

    I`m on Tamoxifen, started in April and I am so so so tired all the time.  Doesn`t matter if I go to bed at 8:30 and sleep the whole night.  I just feel so exhausted and that doesn`t help when I have a 4 yr old and 6 yr old with loads of energy.  I find that I am very tired in the mornings and then again at supper I can`t stop yawning from about 4pm until bedtime. 

  • seagan
    seagan Member Posts: 166
    edited December 2009

    JillyB -- that's my pattern, too:  especially sleepy in the mornings and then again from early evening onward.  What time do you take your tam?  I take it with supper and wonder if changing up when I take it might help at least a bit -- like feeling sleepy at bedtime rather than when I start work!

    Does anyone else notice a pattern with when you feel more tired and if so, when do you take your pill(s)?

  • puddintater
    puddintater Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2010

    My doctor said the radiation would clip a small portion of my lung...do you think that might have happened to you and that is why you notice some change in breathing?

    Diagnosis: 9/2009, DCIS, Stage0

  • Loral
    Loral Member Posts: 932
    edited August 2013

    I too am on Tamoxifen and I'm very tired. I usually get about 5 1/2 hours of sleep, but lately I feel like I could just fall asleep every time I sit. Maybe it's the stress of knowing we have Cancer...Hang in there..

  • Resting
    Resting Member Posts: 215
    edited December 2012

    Last month I convinced my Oncologist to let me stop Tamoxifen for a month to see if this was the source of my overwhelming fatigue. I really wasn't sure what I'd find out. But about two weeks after stopping it I began to feel like myself again and the energy returned. I am back on it - I have another year left. It has helped me tremendously to know this is the source of my fatigue.

  • Barbi811
    Barbi811 Member Posts: 21
    edited August 2013

    I am also on Tamoxifen...Going into my third month..It took me one yr to decide to take this medication.

    First 6weeks I was feeling great..Now Im dragging it...I had no Chemo nor did I have Rads...Im feeling blue and tired..I am normally energetic..I keep thinking maybe it is in my mind...No I can't stand feeling like this..I get tired spells during the course of the day..

    I take it in the morning...Maybe I should change to night time? I can use some input..

    Thank you Ladies and wish you all the BEST..Positive thinking..!!!

    Barbi :)

  • mamasixtaz
    mamasixtaz Member Posts: 319
    edited August 2013

    Barbi811- I have been looking for a thread about fatigue.  I think it is the tamoxifen as well.  I blamed my bmx/LD flap recon surgery recovery. No rads or chemo.   I have a very busy stressful family life that I blamed as well, yet  I have been dealing for years with my disabled DH not feeling so tired.  I thought my recovery from this big surgery was complete for the most part, awaiting exchange surgery.  I work full time as a nurse 12 hr dayshifts.  I come home and just barely can stay awake to say hi to my family then off to bed.  Fall asleep watching TV, never finishing a show!  I feel it's important to take this drug to decrease recurrance, (never want to deal with this again) but the fatgue is the worst!  I really have to work at my PT and try to take a walk, at least on my days off.  Just started taking in May, was hoping it would improve over time. I take my Tami in the morning, yet still get hot flashes at night, as well as night sweats...ugh!

  • PinkCarn
    PinkCarn Member Posts: 70
    edited July 2015

    I switched to pm dosing for Tamoxifen and I think that helps…some.


  • Shantilynn1213
    Shantilynn1213 Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2015

    hi!

    I was on faslodex for a year and a half with many side effects. The worst was shortness of breath which got so bad I asked my doc to take me off of it. He switched me to tamoxifen. The side effects after 3 mo are a lot less but yes I am TIRED. Sleepy by 1pm and have to nap. Then I can't really get going again til the next day. The hot flashes are about the same so far. I'm hungry too and get a little seasick now and again. But it's still easier than faslodex. My markers went down more dramatically after one month on tamoxifen. I do sleep better and have been able to get off my antidepressant and tramadol.


  • Angelald44
    Angelald44 Member Posts: 2
    edited September 2017

    I have been on Tamoxifen for 4 years and I am still experiencing chronic fatigue. I have spoken with my doctor on several occasions and she offered to change the medication on my last visit; however, I have lived with it this long that I did not want to change for fear of worst side effects. One more year to go, I truly hope to see an improvement!

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited September 2017

    I switched to Tam three years after rads. Not tired ever. I sleep 7 - 8 hours at night and do everything I want during the day, including exercising at least an hour a day.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited September 2017

    Pudd, why did you have radiation if you are Stage 0. That makes no sense to me.

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