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sbeddows
sbeddows Member Posts: 29
edited August 2015 in Just Diagnosed

Hi All. I am here writing just to keep my sanity. I am not yet diagnosed officially but both mammogram and ultrasound are BIRADS 5 with a large 2.5cm tumor and I have enlarged lymph nodes. The mammogram clearly showed an aggressive looking tumor so I am just now praying that there are no mets. I guess I am going out of my mind as I am positive that it it growing very quickly both in my breast and lymph node. I have a 14 month old girl and I am 36 years old. I just really feel like I have little hope left for seeing her grow up due to my young age and the possible mets and lastly the aggressiveness that this tumor appears to have. I have a strong family history with my mother passing away just 7 or so years ago with breast cancer with brain mets and I just don't know that I can handle things.I see a lot of hope with low grade and no mets....but I feel like this is nowhere near what I have. I get my official confirmation on Tuesday as I am referred to a rapid diagnostic clinic. I guess I just want to hear from people in my position and get back some hope. I am so so scared of Mets and not ha ing the option to have treatment....I just need prayers and some kind of miracle.

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  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited July 2015

    sbeddows just get through one day at a time. The way I have dealt with it is to just look at what is right in front of me and not let my mind wander too far down the road, e.g., worrying about mets, etc. I totally get it. I worried through every test about mets, and still do. But don't put yourself on that path until you get there.

    And if you find yourself diagnosed with mets, there are lots of women on this forum and on others (inspire.com) who have mets and have maintained a good quality of life for a long time.

    Gentle hugs, and try to take each step as it comes. There are so many treatment options now it isn't necessarily a quick death sentence. I started with a bi-rads 5 rating, freaked out of my mind, and now I have finished surgery and chemo. You will feel more in control once you have a diagnosis and an action plan.

    How big do they estimate the growth to be?

    Please keep posting about how things go, and good luck on Tuesday!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2015

    sbeddows, First I would like to give you a big hug and welcome you to BCO. You picked a great place for support.

    Take some big deep breaths. Like you, when I was diagnosed I was so scared. I have a half sister diagnosed with TN, as well as her daughter. I was also diagnosed with two different pathologies, which I found was very unusual. Both known to be aggressive.On top of that I couldn't get too aggressive with my treatment due to a past illness.

    You can and will get through this. No two people react to treatment the same. What didn't work for your mom, doesn't mean it wouldn't work for you. I know it's difficult, but try not to get too far ahead. Take this one step at a time, and we will all be with you to help you along.

    I know others will be along to share their experiences.

    Please keep us updated on how it goes next week. Sending good thoughts and best wishes!

  • inks
    inks Member Posts: 746
    edited July 2015

    So sorry you have to be here and sorry that your mom passed from breast cancer. I was 36 as well when diagnosed with a 18 month old. I know you are worried about mets but given your young age even if you would have mets they would treat your mets aggressively. Oligometastatic disease is treated "curatively" in someone as young as you. And it's just the nature of the beast that we younger ones get the more aggressive cancers, which by the way are more treatable by chemo. I hope they have referred you to genetic counseling. Hugs and good luck! You'll get through this!

  • floaton
    floaton Member Posts: 181
    edited July 2015

    First off, hugs and deep breaths. You asked for some hope from those in a similar situation, so here's my story - I was diagnosed almost 2 years ago, at 36, with a very fast growing (I swear that buggar came up overnight) tumor that looked about 2.3 cm (ended up being grade 3, 2.1cm on path) and one enlarged lymph node seen on MRI and that my surgeon could feel. Luckily, it only had 80 or so tumor cells so was counted as node negative. But I don't have to tell you the node scared the crap out of me. Now, my recovery has not been without its challenges, but I'm still here for my now 2 year old. You have my sincerest best wishes that you'll be similarly "lucky" :). I also wish none of us had to go through this. It's so veryhard when you're so worried for your little one.

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited July 2015

    sbeddows,

    It is a nightmare.....in the beginning, during treatment, and also after treatment, when everyone thinks you are healed & should be normal again. I can remember all the "just stay positive" comments. Dealing with people ( well meaning, but clueless ), was difficult.

    My surgeon insisted on a Pet scan after my lumpectomy, because of the nodes & extranodal extension. I passed that bullet, but it can only find Cancer that is large enough to light up.

    So unfair someone your age has to deal with this. Posting here & sharing your fears with the ladies helps with the anxiety. We have all weathered this storm, and still working on the healing process. Ask for anti-anxiety meds.

    Let us know, we care


  • mye
    mye Member Posts: 130
    edited July 2015

    Sbeddows, you will get through this. It is devastating, terrifying, and painful but you will. Think baby steps. Like Italychick said, once you and your doctors have decided on a treatment plan, your focus will change and you will feel more in control. I remember my good friend who went through something similar before me telling me that, and it is true. Doing the tests and waiting for the results is the hardest, unbearable!

    My dad passed away from lung cancer a month before my diagnosis. His was very aggressive and he died within less than 2 weeks of being diagnosed (this will not happen to you. His was a very special case in that his symptoms were very vague). So when I was diagnosed and found out just how aggressive my cancer was I thought for sure like him I was going to die quickly and not be there for my 6 year old son. (I'm 43). With time and therapy!, I started separating my condition from my dad's. You are not your mom. Everyone reacts to chemo differently. Also the drugs and regimens have evolved since 7 years ago. Try to learn as much as possible about your cancer and don't be afraid of knowing. Knowledge is power. I hope you have a help and family around you that you can depend on. We are all here for you. Praying that you find strength through these really tough days. Hugs

  • sbeddows
    sbeddows Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2015

    Thank you everyone I am already blessed to have people that I can talk to and a place where I can go for support. This site really is amazing. Just knowing that there are people that I can talk to that understand helps a great deal. I guess just knowing that right now it is growing and potentially spreading is what is driving me crazy. I appreciate that it must feel somewhat easier when you have a treatment plan in place. Being a worrier my thoughts are that even when I find out on Tuesday exactly what is what ( I am lucky enough to be going to a rapid diagnostic clinic) I am still going to have to wait for some kind of treatment whether surgical or chemical is put in place, and this is just more and more time for it to potentially spread if it hasn't already. I am just about at my limit with worry now.....to have to then have things confirmed and wait to get them sorted I am not sure I can handle esp if mx. I feel like I need to stop whining and complaining but I also just have to get these thoughts out there. I really want to be a strong survivor but I already feel like a pessimist.....Anyway

  • floaton
    floaton Member Posts: 181
    edited July 2015

    Positivity isn't exactly my thing either :). Not everyone will agree with me, but I felt like I was "doing it wrong" by not being all rah-rah and it was honestly adding to my stress about everything until I stumbled across an article like this a few months in

    http://medivizor.com/blog/2015/04/30/positive-thin...

    I think there's strength in honoring your authentic experience and feelings. Personally, I think it makes other people more comfortable that this cancer thing isn't "that bad" if we have our "game faces" on. But seriously, it sucks, and if there was ever something worthy of crying/being emo in public/at your doctors -this is certainly one of those things!

    Hang in there, Tuesday will come eventually, as will surgery and treatment. I remember feeling so relieved as my first feeling waking up after my mastectomy. My ob/gyn at the time who had come to visit me said "that's just the morphine talking." I disagreed with her then, and still do now. I hope you're able to get things rolling very quickly... but, as you know, this is a long road, rest and be kind to yourself if you can. Hugs.

  • mye
    mye Member Posts: 130
    edited July 2015

    Sbeddows,

    First off, I agree with everything Floaton said, please do not pressure yourself in having to be positive and strong. It is a scary time and not a time to be a hero. With time you will find strength and find yourself again. It took me a while to find my bearings for sure. I am still going through ups and downs.

    Regarding the starting treatment quickly, if your type of cancer is high grade and Her2 positive or triple negative and because you are so young they might want you to start with neoadjuvant chemotherapy, chemo before surgery. That is what they recommended for me because of those reasons. In that case you would need to decide on an oncologist to get the ball rolling so they can get your medications ordered etc. they other thing that's important is to make sure everything is settled with insurance so nothing gets held up on that front. This is something that my husband dealt with b/c I really didn't have the nerve to at the time. If surhery is recommended first then obviously you will need to decide on a breast surgeon to start the treatment journey.

    I was like you, when I found out just how aggressive my type of cancer was, I wanted to start treatment right away and was freaked out by having to wait thinking my tumor was spreading, mutating, and taking over my body. Per my oncologist two or three weeks do not make a difference. (From diagnosis I had to wait 16 days to start chemo). In the mean time, to gain a feeling of control, I tried to eat foods that I read were anti cancerous, like maitake and shiitake mushrooms, used a bunch of curcmin in my food, ate lots of veggies, walnuts, berries,stayed completely away from suger and minimized pastas, rice and bread etc. (I am not restricting my diet so much during chemo though). I also started acupunture and psychotherapy. I feel like it all helped me.


  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited July 2015

    I wouldn't call it "whining and complaining". I'd call it "an entirely normal reaction to a terrifying diagnosis, with treatments that are at best disruptive". My father (stage IV melanoma) said "The waiting is the worst part." I'm not too far ahead of you in the diagnosis/treatment sequence, but he's right: getting the official diagnosis will be a relief, and working out your treatment plan will be a relief.

    Demystifying what lies ahead might help too: see if you can figure out what's bothering you specifically, other than the obvious "I have just been diagnosed with cancer." and ask people ahead of you "How did you handle [insert what's worrying you most]?" (I'm not even going to hazard a guess what that might be. I don't know what your background is, ,much less your prognosis.)

    That said, all this is an emotional rollercoaster--you're going to have good days and bad days even without any changes in either diagnosis or treatment. Don't be shy about asking for emotional help, here, or through your local oncology network. Maybe a support group, maybe a meeting with a psychologist who's aware of how cancer treatment affects us mentally, maybe someone from the American Cancer Society's Reach to Recovery program.

  • Murphy43
    Murphy43 Member Posts: 25
    edited July 2015

    Hi,

    I am in the same position as you. I know I have invasive ductal carcinoma grade 3 (that's really all I know for now). Youngish and with children. Just had surgery and waiting for the test results. I am scared, just like you. I too have other findings which lead me to believe I have mets (I have difficulty eating). I look at my children and cry everyday. I am ashamed at my response to this, I felt I was strong, but in the face of adversity, I am not. I am really, really scared. I know what you are going through.

    Ladies who have replied to this post, you are incredibly strong women. Thank you for your posts, they have also helped me. Still scared though.....

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2015

    Whine away! I don't think there is anyone here that hasn't whined at some point. You will learn to draw strength from the people here. We are all in this mess together and you are not alone.

  • sbeddows
    sbeddows Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2015

    Thank you thank you thank you to everyone for your words. It is amazing how you can keep your sanity and gain strength from others and you are all really keeping me sane. I hope I can bring a little bit of peace to you all in some way in the future too.

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited July 2015

    Murphy,

    The stress & anxiety can/does cause eating issues. I lost 20 lbs very quickly after dx & surgery. I continued to lose weight during chemo. That was 2 years ago. I started gaining weight just in the last few months.

    Please, do not be ashamed of your emotions. I felt like I had to be strong, set a example to my kids. That wears down. I ended up with PTSD. We seem to expect so much of ourselves. It's a roller coaster of a ride, we want off, now.

  • sbeddows
    sbeddows Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2015

    Well I had a complete meltdown yesterday as they were doing my biopsies but I am here today and feeling a bit stronger in my mind. I was diagnosed 'officially' yesterday afternoon and am now waiting for receptor status etc. I also have a stinking cold coming and my sinuses feel like they are going to explode :( reatment will be starting in the next couple of weeks....likely chemo as there are enlarged nodes. I guess my next questions will be to do with chemo now :)

    Thanks again for all of your support :)

  • mye
    mye Member Posts: 130
    edited July 2015

    Hope you get over thatcold quickly.

    We are all here for you, Sbeddows! Hugs

  • CAMommy
    CAMommy Member Posts: 437
    edited July 2015

    hi,

    I recently lost my brother to lung cancer 3 years ago. He had a 7 year battle that ended with brain mets. I think when we have history so close to our dx we tend to worry even more because we know what can happen. I'm sorry about your mother. In even 7 short years, new drugs and therapies have been used. Try not to worry about something until you know for sure. I'm also trying not to worry until I know for sure I have something to worry about but that is easier said than done.

    My mother had breast cancer at age 32 and is alive and well at 75 with no recurrence. So it can happen!


  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2015

    Gentle hugs to you sb.....once you have your treatment plan in place, it will get much easier. The beginning part can be challenging with all of the decisions. I hope your cold gets better quickly. Take it one step at a time.

    Murphy, Hang in there. You will get through this too. Gentle hugs to you as well.

  • Stephmoen
    Stephmoen Member Posts: 563
    edited July 2015

    it's nice to hear young women getting breast cancer and living long lives camommy I was 29 when diagnosed now 30 and devastated I do still have hope I will beat this and watch my children grow up

  • lynn61
    lynn61 Member Posts: 26
    edited July 2015

    I was just recently diagnosed also. Go to this forum, newly diagnosed, then to members for 10 years or more, inspiring stories that will make you feel better, look at ruru99's story. I know reading these helped me. The best advice I have received was just to deal with what you know today, don't let your mind jump ahead. Treatment has come such a long way. Don't let tomorrows worries rob you of todays strengths.

  • sbeddows
    sbeddows Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2015

    Thank you lynn61. I am having a hard time not jumping ahead to be honest. I have sinus pressure my speech has started to slur and my arms ache. My support system has started crumbling around me (rightfully so) and my anxiety has just gone through the roof. The obsession with advanced mets has just enveloped me and It is becoming debilitating. I honestly do not know how I am going to gwt through the next week. I have all of my scans etc in the next few days and will find out the TNM status anytime now. I am not looking at a small lump it is huge and my lymph node is big too.....If I didn't have this stupid sinus stress headache thing going on I think I could cope better.....but it is just adding to my anxiety as I cannot control.the symptoms with anything....tylenol is not working :(

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2015

    sb, ask your MO to prescribe you an anti anxiety med to get you through this time. Let them know you're having a difficult time. Ativan does help to take the edge off. I took it all through treatment. You can't continue at this high stress state. Please, please talk to your doctor.

  • sbeddows
    sbeddows Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2015

    Thanks.....I think I will have to do just that.....I see him on Wednesday when I will.find out about the imaging. Unfortunately I know him and his bedside manner and he is really cold and the worst match for me. However I would need to wait another week for another oncologist and they want to start my treatment well before then. Ugh......what a battle.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2015

    Maybe you can ask your primary care doctor? I can't imagine them turning you down considering the circumstances.

  • lynn61
    lynn61 Member Posts: 26
    edited July 2015

    I was given xanax for anxiety and it is helping me somewhat especially at night. I am having stomach pains, arm and leg tingling and everything hurts. Remember it is amazing what stress can do to the body. So many symptoms can be brought on by stress and every pain is amplified once you receive a diagnosis. I know I have been hyper sensitive to every pain in my body. Hang in there and try to just deal with what you know today. Hugs.

  • sbeddows
    sbeddows Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2015

    Thanks as always ladies. You honestly are helping me more than you would ever know.

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited July 2015

    sbeddows,

    When I was where you are, my legs were wobbly. I could barely walk, felt like I would trip or tip over. I am an active person, speed walk in races. The anxiety was horrific. Lorazepam works well.

    I still need one, very occasionally. Comes out of the blue, and I am back in a pure panic. One day at a time, keep busy with things you enjoy, or mindless TV.....

  • lynn61
    lynn61 Member Posts: 26
    edited July 2015


    Thinking of you and hope things are getting somewhat easier. The first days were the worst. It does get easier once you meet with everyone and have a plan and more information. I will be having surgery in a few days and feel much more in control now. Hope you asked your Dr. for something to help with the anxiety, that is pretty standard for all newly diagnosed.

  • sbeddows
    sbeddows Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2015

    Thanks lynn61 - Your surgery is one step closer to being cancer free for good! :) I am not sure if I am getting better or worse with the anxiety.....I think better :) I have stretches where I can handle things and they seem to come more frequently. Bone scan was yesterday and brain mri tomorrow....Then ct on Tuesday and Oncologist Wednesday. ...busy busy busy.....had to talk to a fertility specialist yesterday but I think there isn't much option for me there ànd I have to concentrate on being here for the baby I have rather than worry about if I can have more. Still don't know he receptor status or grade. I figure I will find out everything on Wednesday so no point chasing up the results there......I just need to eat clean and get mean and fight this beast right now :)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2015

    Thinking of you sbeddows. Best wishes to you on Wednesday. You may want to ask for a copy of your pathology report, and take someone with you to take some notes. Some even suggest a small recorder. I found things at the beginning are so overwhelming, most of the info went in one ear and out the other. Hang in there!!

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