Can you have a reoccurrence from DCIS after Bil mastectomy

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Jshoemake01
Jshoemake01 Member Posts: 5

I am four weeks out and my doctor kinda indicated that I would not have reoccurrence as I had bilateral mastectomy and it was not invasive. However I keep hearing it can happen. We know our bodies and if I suspect anything I would demand to be seen. How do they check you after mastectomy for reoccurrence?

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  • MotherofFour
    MotherofFour Member Posts: 24
    edited July 2015

    I think it's done with an mri. . .that's what I was told. The recurrence rate varies but is normally in the single digits with DCIS mastectomy over 10 years. The database (NCN ?) my oncologist showed me was at 7% for my situation (grade 3 w/ comedo necrosis), but my situation wasn't exactly covered in the database either (margins only went to 1 mm in entry data and mine were less than 1mm). From what I understand, statistically, it's not that much more than the general population when you've had mastectomies.

  • luckylegs64
    luckylegs64 Member Posts: 47
    edited July 2015

    Just wanted to weigh in - self exams were the KEY for me! I did breast MRI's and mammography and none of my cancer was ever "seen" this way. The 3 times I have had breast cancer, I have found the lumps myself, through self exam. This is not to alarm you, just an encouragement to be diligent with self exams - it should almost be easier for us as most of our breast tissue is gone.

  • Luttece
    Luttece Member Posts: 35
    edited July 2015

    did u have the oncotype genetic testing done??

  • Luttece
    Luttece Member Posts: 35
    edited July 2015

    anyone here who had lumpectomy with clear margins and no lymph node envolvement who also had the Oncotype DX genetic testing??


  • Jshoemake01
    Jshoemake01 Member Posts: 5
    edited July 2015

    brac gene testing was all negative. I have found a lump under my left arm am calling dr ASAP. I am hoping it's nothing so soon after surgery but who knows.

  • rovnic13
    rovnic13 Member Posts: 26
    edited July 2015

    I so agree luckylegs64. I too found my cancer. I was dx 6/24/2015. Mammo in March said to come back in a year. I felt something, went to my primary dr. since she had breast cancer. she ordered another mammo and ultrasound. They didn't show anything. Had an MRI than a biopsy. If it wasn't for my self exams this would have been in me for another year.

    I'm getting genetic testing done and having a bilateral mastectomy in Aug.

  • I_Spy
    I_Spy Member Posts: 507
    edited July 2015

    Jshoemake01 By definition, DCIS is "in situ", which means "in place". So if you remove it from where it is, it isn't coming back. Invasive cancer can come back, because it was invasive, left the spot where it started, and can therefore get into the surrounding tissue and chest wall. When they do a mastectomy they try to get every last breast tissue cell, although it can happen that they miss a few; those few can turn into cancer. It is very rare, somewhere around 2%. I look at it this way: there is nothing else you can do -- you've done everything you can to prevent breast cancer. So go on and live your life and stop worrying since there is nothing you can do at this point. Worry about wearing sunscreen so you don't get skin cancer -- probably more chance of that happening. :)

    As far as how they check for it, you won't be getting mammograms anymore; I would just ask your doctor if you're concerned about how to check for a recurrence -- probably self-exam.

  • trailrose
    trailrose Member Posts: 219
    edited July 2015

    Jshoemake01- The chances of reoccurrence are low but definitely do the self exams. Also my breast surgeon told me he wanted to see me once a year to make sure nothing looks or feels suspicious. He told me he has a patient that had DCIS and opted for a LX and radiation well then one year later she got DCIS in her other breast so she opted for a BMX with reconstruction then she got it again and it was noticed on her skin while getting her exam. So not common but it can happen!

  • CAMommy
    CAMommy Member Posts: 437
    edited July 2015

    not to be dense, but if you have your breast removed, including all the ducts, how can you get DCIS again, since by definition it is in the duct only. Wouldn't it be IDC if it was found again in the absence of ducts?

  • ballet12
    ballet12 Member Posts: 981
    edited July 2015

    There is still breast tissue remaining when they do the simple mastectomy which is what is usually done. The breast tissue could, of course, have ducts. I believe that when they do the more extensive modified radical mastectomy as for inflammatory breast cancer, they actually go deeper, down to the connective tissue layer above the chest muscles (being that IBC involves skin and is so extremely aggressive).

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited July 2015

    I actually raised that issue recently with my BS when I went for my exam because I said that there are way more women that get a recurrence within 2 years after DCIS than is reported and she said that it actually would not be deemed a recurrnce but a new form of cancer that is almost always infiltrating or invasive which is why it's important to have anything you feel checked out.  Definitely not something we want to hear, but I think it's all a crapshoot anyway.   I'm BRCA negative.  My dad had leukemia and skin cancer.  Yes, they say it's not connected to BC but since they don't where BC comes from to begin with, how do they know for sure??

  • KarolineH
    KarolineH Member Posts: 40
    edited August 2015

    Hi all. I just raised that same question with my Dr. My mother passed on June 17th from stage 4 breast cancer. She was first diagnosed in 2007 with DCIS and had a lumpectomy. Sh had a reoccurrence in 2012 and had radiation. In February of this year she went to her primary care Dr b/c she thought she had fractured her rib doing yoga turns out her breast cancer had spread to her bones

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