TCHP Ladies Late 2014 / Early 2015

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  • CassieCat
    CassieCat Member Posts: 1,257
    edited July 2015

    Stephmoen, my lashes and brows didn't really thin noticeably until the last cycle or two, and then they fell out more after I was done. My nails didn't start giving me any troubles until after round 5. I'm not an expert of course, but I don't think you should feel the chemo isn't working.

    Csed, my GI tract was mildly upset for a little while after finishing chemo, but now things seem to be basically fine. I have two more Herceptin-only infusions to go at this point.

    SugarCakes, good luck at your appointment today! I had hot flashes and night sweats during chemo, thanks to chemopause. The night sweats stopped and the hot flashes seem to be decreasing. I have no idea what that means, but I'm glad to not be waking up so often due to hot flashes at night.

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited July 2015

    Finished chemo in Jan., then surgery in Feb. Rads were done in April. Will be getting herceptin / perjeta every 3 weeks till Nov. I still have neuropathy in my feet and pain and stiffness in hips and one knee. Also underarm pain from lymph node removal. I have been exercising for a few weeks and am getting some stamina back but very slowly. I have done the equivalent of walking 10 miles a week for the past 2 weeks and hope to keep that up. Not to bad for a 72yr old lady! Lol Love, Jean

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited July 2015

    Eyelashes and Eyebrows hung in there until the end of chemo and then fell out, but immediately started growing back in. They are still very short and thin--about 2 - 3 months after chemo.

    Head hair mostly fell out 2 weeks into chemo and kept falling out until there was pretty much nothing (a few survivors!), at the end. Still less than an inch of fuzz now. I think it's going to be a LONG while until it grows to be any decent length.

    Nails... Got all pale during chemo, but used nourishing coats on them and they did OK until after chemo when some of my nails started separating at the tips-- particularly the little fingernails... They went totally white from the tip to about half-way down-- pretty much lifting up. They are still in that condition now (nearly 3 months after chemo). Got some separation at the tips of some of the other nails, too, but cutting them down helps them look less weird. I was worried they would keep it up and start peeling off entirely, but so far that hasn't happened. The nails can still be sensitive, but not constantly. TOE nails aren't having that problem, but do get sensitive--and I've had hints of in-grown nails on the big toes... That comes and goes, too.

    Eyes-- I never had the teary eyes, but had dry eyes. That only happened through the first half of chemo, then gradually got better.

    Hot flashes -- I'm post menopausal, so I already went through all that! Haven't had any in a good year or more, thankfully.

    Neuropathy -- had some weakening of nerves in my legs from chemo. No pain, just weakness. It's gradually going away.

    Energy -- much, much better. I was super-weak by the end of chemo, but feel much more normal now.

    GI tract -- Mine was totally screwed up by chemo! Diarrhea so severe nothing stopped it and I had to be hospitalized the first two cycles and then had home IV drips 24 hrs/2weeks for the last 4 cycles! I STILL have diarrhea now, but not to the point of needing IV drips, thank goodness. I've had Herceptin only since May and it will go for a year. Not sure if that is contributing to the diarrhea. I THINK it's slowly getting better though, so maybe it's just the chemo that I'm still recovering from...?

    --

    I should walk more... but the neuropathy messed up my legs a bit-- I tripped during chemo and injured my ankle and still have a bit of numbness on the top of my foot. I need to at least do some stationery cycling, though!

  • SugarCakes
    SugarCakes Member Posts: 353
    edited July 2015

    just got the call with my pathology results.

    13 lymph nodes removed, all negative of cancer

    Left Breast: original 4.5mm tumor down to 0.9mm. Still high grade. Clear margins.

    Right Breast fine, as expected

    So not a complete response but pretty darn good.

    Still have my drains. Reporting totals daily and waiting for PS to tell me I can come in to have them removed.

    Then, 1 or 2 TE fills, TE exchange for implants, and radiation.

  • raleighgirl
    raleighgirl Member Posts: 98
    edited July 2015

    Whatgreat news Sugarcakes! I am so happy for you!

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited July 2015

    Your tumor shrunk a lot more than mine, SugarCakes. Great news on the nodes and margins!!!

  • Mardea15
    Mardea15 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2015

    SugarCakes, great news on the nodes & margins. You had a great response & I'm very happy for you & relieved that they finally called with your results!

  • SugarCakes
    SugarCakes Member Posts: 353
    edited July 2015

    thanks ladies! Now if the fluid would stop so I can get these frigging drains out! It's been 10 days since surgery. I'll have them through another weekend :(

    How long did some of you have yours?

    Doing well. Haven't taken any pain meds since yesterday morning. Only negative (in addition to still havng drains) is TE's seem to be moving towards armpits :(

  • loriekg
    loriekg Member Posts: 263
    edited July 2015

    SugarCakes--I had my drains in for 10 days. Felt SO much better once those things were gone! Congrats on your path report!

  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited July 2015

    Sugar, great news on the path report! It's always good when we know the chemo was worth it! Hoping for more good news at my BS appt on Monday!

    I'm 9 days out, and I still can't ditch my drains either. 30mL/day on the SNLB side, and I just hit 20mL/day tonight on the other side. I'm praying to get these things out at my BS appt Monday. They're sore and just gross. 😝

    Had my first outpatient fill today. I have 300mL in each side now. Going for more next Wednesday. They're pushing me pretty hard since I have to get in for rads soon, but I'm being a champ. Sore tonight, but icing and getting a little better each day.

    Hair is slowly coming back 5 weeks PFC. Still taking Mg and K supplements and watching for increased neuropathy. Hemoglobin is still below 10, but my taste and appetite are really getting better. The taxotere rings on my nails are growing out. Still on herceptin for a year, but I'm getting stronger every day! What a good feeling to be making process!!!!

  • SugarCakes
    SugarCakes Member Posts: 353
    edited July 2015

    Indygal, I'm jealous :)

    I have more than 30mL of drains on each side still; close to 50ml daily, actually. Things decreased and them seemingly plateaued. Also, you're getting filled with the drains. My PS won't fill any more until after the drains are out. It's going to be interesting because I'm getting the implants in before radiation. Don't they typically want radiation to start within a certain amount of time after surgery? I meet with the radiation oncogist for the first time next Thursday


  • Mardea15
    Mardea15 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2015

    I finally got my last 2 drains out yesterday.- 18 days after surgery. What a relief! The drainage had been down to 10 cc per 24 hrs for a few days prior to that appt. I slept so much better last night although I did take Valium since they also did a first outpatient fill of 75 cc each side also. I now have 375cc each side & really am going to try for 100cc fills each week until done. It also really helped to take valium & pain med 1 he before the procedure.

    Did anyone else get Lovenox injections? I got those daily for 10 days after getting home. I think it was even a greater relief when those were done because every one of them stung like the dickens! Or, maybe it just helped take my mind off the drains!. I had a home health nurse give them (no way I was giving them to myself!!).

    I meet with the RO next week again. He wants to meet with me postop so I'll see what he says before making final decision, but doubt I will have radiation.

    Hope all goes well for everyone this weekend.

  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited July 2015

    Yes, Sugar, I think there's a timeline for when rads are still effective after surgery. (At least that's why they said they're blowing me up like a balloon so quickly!).

    It IS interesting that you're getting your exchange done first. Mine won't do the swap until 3-6 months after radiation ends. Isn't it weird how the protocols vary so much between docs?

    I haven't met with the RO since before chemo, but I can only imagine I'll be meeting with her once these yucky drains are out. Her original assessment for was for 33 rounds, but a lot has happened since then. Maybe I'll get a lower number now. A girl can hope!

    I've heard mixed things about pain during drain removal. I''m wondering if I should pop an ibuprofen before my next visit in case they decide to take them out. Ugh. After 10 days of this, let's just say I could never be a dairy farmer.

  • DaisyQ
    DaisyQ Member Posts: 123
    edited July 2015

    Hello,

    I love reading the great TCHP reports! I had my drains in for almost 3 weeks (ugh!). My PS did fills with the drains in to help move some of the fluid out and to get me to rads on schedule. There was no pain at all with drain removal, but my PS uses special tubes designed to be pain-free..

    I am excited that I have 2 more Herceptin-only infusions (my last one is August 11) and exchange surgery in September. I'm in North Carolina at the beach letting the ocean cleanse my soul and start to heal these deep wounds..

    Love to you all,

    Amy

  • Paddymom
    Paddymom Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2015

    In preparation for BMX next week, had echo, EKG, and MRI of brain today. MO just called and told me brain scan was negative for cancer, but shows signs of old mini-strokes. WTF! Now she wants to refer me to neurologist! Anyone else have this as a sideline to diagnosis? Really! Hope this does not sideline my herceptin treatment. Rant complete.

  • mye
    mye Member Posts: 130
    edited July 2015

    Paddymom, I haven't had doctors discover any mini-strokes, but it seems like the more scans and tests we do the more things they will find. I can imagine that a lot of people are livings their lives with all kinds of stuff going on that never diagnosed for better or for worse. I TRY to take discoveries like this, even my cancer diagnoses, as a blessing in diguise. Hope it will not interfere with your herceptin schedule.

    I had my midway thru chemo breast MRI today and from the preliminary report it looks like TCHP regimen has been working. The tumor cannot be seen. Hopefully the final report will agree. At diagnoses I also had about 8-10cm of DCIS that has been shrinking. I was surprised to hear that. According to my breast surgeon it is the targeted therapies (Perjeta and Herceptin) that can get to the DCIS.

    Edited: oops, I thought I was posting this in thee TCHP RESULTS thread. Sorry for barging in on your thread ladies! (I will repost my results there.)

  • Paddymom
    Paddymom Member Posts: 29
    edited July 2015

    mye, you are right about taking things as they come and looking it them positively. Knowing what's going on in my body should help make informed decisions easier. This is just another bend in the road.

  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited July 2015

    I have my final path report in my hand for my bmx and snlb from 7/7.

    100% PCR!

    Considering how large the original and satellite areas were (8 cm total) and the fact that I missed my 6th/last carboplatin and taxotere doses due to toxicity, this is nothing short of a miracle.

    I hope this brings comfort and hope for those of you with large, aggressive tumors as well. TCHP is brutal at times, but it does shrink tumors and has been a gamechanger for triple positive women like me.

    3A also went to 2B after they confirmed that no lymph nodes were involved.

    Happy girl! :)

  • raleighgirl
    raleighgirl Member Posts: 98
    edited July 2015

    way to go Indygal! I am so happy for you!!!

  • loriekg
    loriekg Member Posts: 263
    edited July 2015

    ::::Leaping for JOY:::::

    Yay, Indygal! This is great news!!

  • CassieCat
    CassieCat Member Posts: 1,257
    edited July 2015

    Great news, IndyGal!

  • mye
    mye Member Posts: 130
    edited July 2015

    Indygal that's awesome!!! :-) So happy for you!

  • wpmoon
    wpmoon Member Posts: 270
    edited July 2015

    SO happy for you, IndyGal!!

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited July 2015

    IndyGal -- Congrats on the fantastic path report! That's a great result!

  • SugarCakes
    SugarCakes Member Posts: 353
    edited July 2015

    Edit: After posting I started reading and see I had already asked the question about how long you had drains and several of you responded. Thanks!!! Chemo brain still, maybe :) ...

    Those of you that have had surgery, how soon after did you begin radiation?

    Two weeks post surgery and I still have the drains!!! Ugh! I'm hovering right around 35mm for each drain daily. I feel pretty good. Been off pain meds for 5 days now. Started driving again, a little. Do most things except pick up truly heavy things. The only thing really restricting is having the drains there. I'm also concerned as I thought they generally wanted you to start radiation within a certain time frame after surgery. Well before surgery, I'm suppose to have the drains removed on one visit and then on a following visit or two, have the tissue expanders filled some more. PS won't fill them with the drains in place. Then I am suppose to have the TE's swapped for implants BEFORE radiation. I feel like I am on a clock and running out of time. I meet with the Radiation Oncologist on Thursday of this week. I guess I will know more about her desired timeline then.

  • CassieCat
    CassieCat Member Posts: 1,257
    edited July 2015

    Re: radiation - I started radiation about 5 weeks after surgery.

  • jumbledbamboo
    jumbledbamboo Member Posts: 158
    edited July 2015

    I did my last TCHP on June 14th. My hips are killing me! I have had that problem the whole time. I will now move on to Hercepton for a year and get my oohorectomy and recon. I am happy to see all these positive results with this chemo


  • jumbledbamboo
    jumbledbamboo Member Posts: 158
    edited July 2015

    I had a massive stroke in 2011. I know you are very scared to hear of these mini strokes. Did you suffer from any of the classic symptoms? The good news is it sounds like there is no residual affects that you are aware of. Now you can look at ways to prevent future strokes. Message me if you have questions:) I might be able to help


  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited July 2015

    Jumbledbamboo -- could the hip pain be bone-pain from neulasta shots? Hope it gets better for you. I think it takes a while for the effects of chemo to go away. I stopped chemo in April and I'm still having some SEs hanging on (diarrhea, which I had very badly during chemo--as in having to be hospitalized, badly! My nails are still trying to get back to normal. My stomach is also still trying to settle down... I had nerve-numbness that is very slowly getting better, etc.).

    Sugarcakes -- I started radiation just over a month after surgery, but I only had an LX.

  • zjrosenthal
    zjrosenthal Member Posts: 2,026
    edited July 2015

    Still on herceptin / perjeta. Finished chemo at the end of Jan. On Femara since Jan. I still have neuropathy and hip and knee pain. Nails and hair are growing back slowly.

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    Otherwise my SE's are mostly gone. I am giving myself a year to recover.

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