Pity party weight gain...need help.

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  • CidneyI
    CidneyI Member Posts: 79
    edited June 2015

    Can I join in with all of you? I am so happy to have found this topic and to learn I am not the only one having a difficult time with weight gain.

    I have been on Tamox since Nov 2014. It seems the weight gain SE kicked really kicked in about 3 months ago. I have gained about 10 lbs so far and all of my "fat clothes" are now really snug. I am so frustrated and feel like I have been working so hard with no results from any of my efforts.

    I did the AVON 39 mile walk in April but started training for it in the beginning of Feb. For training, I was walking/running 35-40 miles a week and then started with a personal trainer twice a week in March. My calorie in take is less than 1200 per day and guess what? The f'ing scales keep going up and its not f'ing muscle weight, its flab around my mid section!

    I met with a nutriontist this week and hopefully some of her advice will make a differnce. She did tell me one thing to stop doing is weighing myself. She told me to measure myself every two weeks. I guess now I will get to see the inches creep up. End of Rant.

    Off topic here: has anyone had issues when it comes to "landscaping" around the bikini area? Everytime I shave in that area, I break out and it looks mean and angry. No way can I wear a regular bathing suit, I am going to have to wear the type bottoms that look like a tennis skirt. Anyone else have this strange SE?


     

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited June 2015

    Todays' adventure, The Olmsted Falls Relay For Life! I walked 3,808 steps all for me! Awesome time, we had so much fun. I walked with the friends I made at radiation.

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  • RaiderGirl
    RaiderGirl Member Posts: 419
    edited June 2015

    Cidenyl

    Landscaping: I am Brazilian ,the originating country of the "Brazilian Wax" that's has now spread its misery to this country.  Anyway, I have waxed underarms for so long that nothing has grown there for years, hardly anything sprouts in  the southern region either. So, if you can at all afford waxing, go for it. The hair grows in softer, finer, and less.

    But if you must shave: The break out is being caused by either something getting into the pores that your skin disikes or possibly ingrown hairs. Here are some pointers

    Use a new razor every single time. No exceptions.

    Use hair conditioner  and not soap.

    Use some brand of bump cream. The kind sold for African American men. No kidding. It ends the ingrown angry skin effect.

    Example:.http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/bump-stopper-2-razor-bump-treatment-cream/ID=prod1954-product?SL_ClientGroup=1

    Also, products used for babies diaper rashes is excellent. My fav is http://www.buttpaste.com/products/original-butt-paste

    In any event, do not use any cream or lotion that has fragrance or mineral oil. That's deadly for that tender skin.

     

     

     

     

     


     

  • CidneyI
    CidneyI Member Posts: 79
    edited June 2015

    RaiderGirl, thank you so much for the tips. I just bought a new razor yesterday to use specifically for "landscaping". Never heard for Bump Stopper and will be buying some of that tomorrow! I just bought a new one piece swim suit and want to wear it but with the way the situation is now, no way! I have never in my life had this problem and I have blamed it on Tamoxifen of course.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited June 2015

    Hi everyone! Checking in. I talked to my infusion nurses about the weight gain,and they said it just takes time for the body to heal and get normal. They did say the weight will come off, just slowly since we have been through so much. I hope so, I am working again full time, walking 7,000 to 10,000 steps per day, LiveStrong twice a week, Yoga on Tuesday and I ride the bike 10 miles every Sunday. And doing the GM diet as well! I should have asked them to define slow. Frustrating for sure, I am just about worn out!


    What are you Ladies doing to lose the pounds that I am not? I bought a new pair of jeans for work and bought them loose so I could say I just lost weight :) Sounds so much better than I can't get my chemo ass in my clothes, and I can't!!!

  • kittysister
    kittysister Member Posts: 212
    edited June 2015

    Wow, Beachbum! Again, I'm so impressed. I have lost a couple of pounds, but it's only from eating less and mainly staying away from sugary desserts and goodies. I miss them, though. Continued success for you!!

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited June 2015

    kittysister, I miss Pepsi, and carrot cake. But if I stay away from sugar I crave it less. Strange but chocolate doesn't appeal to me much any more since chemo. A good thing I guess! We just have to keep trying to make it go away. Take care, and good luck! Cheryl

  • vettegirl
    vettegirl Member Posts: 235
    edited June 2015

    Beach-I too am so impressed with you.  You are doing so much-I dont think there is anything else you can even be doing.  Are you dropping some weight-or is the scale not budging?  I havent been dieting too much the last two weeks.  I am getting my kitchen remodeled and have no stove right now.  I have been microwaving brocolli, spinach and frozen fish for dinners.  Still eating healthy but havent done a fruit or all veggie day in a couple of weeks.  Not gaining, but not losing either.  I think I have 5 weeks left until my week of beach vacation so I need to get on the stick. 

  • RaiderGirl
    RaiderGirl Member Posts: 419
    edited June 2015

    Beach

    I am doing a self modified version of South Beach. 5 lbs since June 24. Slow but I actually feel less buffy. I know this loss will slow down.

    My goal is to fit into my Calvin Klein business suit by November when I go to an important trade trade.. I need 10-15 lbs off for that.

    Im feeling like its going to be possible so long as I accept that it will be slow.


  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited June 2015

    Slow is right. I dropped three pounds, but I still feel like a marshmallow, all puffy. Still hard to accept how slow it really is. But onward my friends, we can do this and hopefully find patience along the way.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited June 2015

    How are you doing ladies?? I am back to work at my new job, and I have lost 6.2 pounds. Still a ways to go to get back in my size 6, but working on it. At least it is going in the right direction. But gravity and chemo are a bad combo! Eating more veggies.......Cheryl

  • RaiderGirl
    RaiderGirl Member Posts: 419
    edited June 2015


    How are you feeling at work?

    I have been watching every bite and not cheated once. I swear not even once.

    In 5 weeks I have lost 5.2 lbs. That's crazy. In my better days all this effort would have equaled twice that loss.

     

     

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited June 2015

    Hi Raider Girl, I am exhausted after not working for 6 months. I like the schedule because of the time off, but the 3 12 hour days are very hard. So maybe once I get used to it, it may settle down. But I love the job, lots to learn and very fun. I am holding onto the weight loss, now 6.5 pounds. But very hard to lose, and very slow. But after all of the treatments we have been through I'll take any loss as long as I keep losing. We just have to hang in there.


    "In my better days all this effort would have equaled twice that loss". In my better days, I wouldn't have all this chemo fat to lose. Damn those side-a-f*&ks! For me chemo fat sucks more than being bald........that I could hide with my wig.........Cheryl

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited June 2015


    Hi Guys,

    I'm up a pound ... well f---k it.

    Beachie ... 3 twelve hour days are a very rough schedule.  Good to have the other time off so you can rest up.  I've done 10's before and by the fourth one, I was wiped out.  I'm very lucky to work from home now.

    So proud of you and Raidergirl for sticking with it! You guys rock!

    hugs

    Bren

  • CarolynAnne
    CarolynAnne Member Posts: 57
    edited June 2015

    DSW1976- lol! Uncle Fester! Yes that is me too! Bald head and poofey face and bod.

    I have gained 15 lbs since starting chemo in Feb. i blame the steroids and decreased exercise due to port pain. I have 3 Taxol to go. Port will come out and then I can get back to real exercise. I hope! I am sooo flabby! Really gross!

    I am so bad at following strict diets. I am trying to cut the carbs but why do they have to taste so good?!

    Hang in there everyone!

  • gatorgal89
    gatorgal89 Member Posts: 56
    edited July 2015

    I am totally frustrated so I came back to the BC boards to see if anyone else is experiencing problems with weight gain. It was one thing when I was in treatment and gaining weight because that made sense to me with reduced activity and meds. However, I have been out of treatment for a year and still gaining! I'm mortified! In the beginning when I had to go back to work it was all I could do to work and keep up with daily home stuff, so it was logical to me that I would not lose and even gain, and I really did not care. However, since I am on summer vacation, I have doubled my activity over the past six weeks especially and been really watching what I eat and still cannot lose. Weight loss has never been easy, but usually if I cut sugar and carbs I could at least lose five pounds and jump start. Nothing! Prior to diagnosis, I had lost 70 pounds and to see it creeping back is freaking me out! I am trying to embrace the attitude of gratitude for the cancer being in remission, but I'm kind of mad about all these adverse effects post-treatment, especially the medical menopause (thanks chemo). Hope you will excuse my vent.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited July 2015

    Gatorgal, I have the same thing going on. During chemo and more after, I gained 25 pounds. I am fighting to lose it, a never ending chore it seems and depressing as well. I thought that once I felt better and increased my activity it would drop off just like always. Not so. I belong to LiveStrong at the Y and went back to work full time. I eat really well and dropped almost all sugar goodies and Pepsi. I complained to my Doctors and look at me like I am crazy. I just want to wear all my old clothes not be a super model. I lost 2.80 pounds for the week, and a huge effort. I keep getting told I will lose it, it just takes time. The one thing that I have in short supply! Good Luck, I don't have any magic bullet for this one. Cheryl

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited July 2015

    Gatorgal, it's the tamoxifen! I gained 30 lbs on that crap and I was eating right (healthy foods and ~1000 cal/day) and exercising, not a huge amount but should be enough (walking avg. 5,000 steps/day and aerobics video 30 min/5 days a week).

    I've had body image issues in the past and this was freaking me out too. We are told from the time we are young that our weight is completely under our control. If someone is fat, it's because she didn't try hard enough. Right? It's very difficult to accept that this is not necessarily true.

    My doc just shrugs and says "most women gain weight after menopause", like its a fact of life we have to accept. But chemo put me in menopause 7 months before I started tamoxifen and I never gained an ounce during that time.

    I switched to anastrazole about 6 months ago and have been holding steady, no more gain but no loss either. Time to step up my efforts. Has anyone tried "intermittent fasting"? Google it, sounds promising.






  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited July 2015

    I wish this were a week ago and I'd invite that doctor who said "most women gain weight after menopause" to cycle those 208 miles in 2 days to Portland with me!!! This is not inevitable, but it does take work to stay fit and a reasonable weight. The big thing is deconditioning and I had this happen, not with chemo and radiation because I exercised, but when I switched from an active job to a desk job about 20 years ago. It went away when I started cycling.

    Also why it's so important to do strength training and retain that muscle mass.

    I am much more muscled and fitter from training for the Big Ride than I was a couple of months ago when my weight was starting to creep up. Not sure where I am right now, as you retain water from all the electrolyte drinks, and it takes a couple of days to drop.

    Want to tell everyone to hang in there. Make sure you do strength training on top of any aerobic training. I have to tell my lazy abs who's boss and eventually they get the message. My whole body was revved up from all the training. (Not revved at the moment though, as still recovering from the 200+ miles.)

    Oh....and make sure you eat enough protein. It takes several years to fully to recover from chemo and radiation. Our bodies need amino acids to rebuild.

    I think E. Jean Carroll of Elle Magazine said it well. Don't live in deprivation, but lavish ourselves with healthy and delicious food. Just not huge quantities of it.

    But let me get my hands on that doctor...... The summer is still young, and the 70+ mile Tour de Lavender is coming up in 3 weeks. And yes, I will eat the lavender ice cream at that wonderful rest stop overlooking lavender fields with mountains in the distance! - Claire

  • gatorgal89
    gatorgal89 Member Posts: 56
    edited July 2015

    Good to know I'm not alone. I think I have to re-adjust my thinking and just concentrate on how I am feeling and get over the body image thing for now. If I look back (which I don't do very often) to how I felt last year at this time, there is no comparison. I feel like my old self, minus the weight gain. So, time to banish the negative thinking and focus on moving forward. I will just stay the course and watch what I eat and keep exercising.

    Claire - you're amazing! What an incredible adventure! Thanks for the reminder about rebuilding and protein. Strength training is definitely an area where I can improve my workouts.

    Jennie93 - I'm not on tamoxifen, so I cannot attribute the weight gain to it. Your doc sounds like mine...I guess I'd rather her shrug at me then tell me what I already know...my weight keeps going up! LOL. I know it has to do with the medical menopause and my body trying to figure out what the heck happened to it.

    It's good to be able to come here and share stories. Thanks everyone!

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited July 2015



    Hi Ladies, I know I am posting a picture of a cake, from the Queen of chemo fat rants! But I took this today to my infusion nurses when I had my port flushed. It had been one year since I heard those horrid words, the same thing you heard. But it's been a whole year, and so many things have changed. It does happen, we just have to make it happen. I'll post another cake next year for two years!


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  • gatorgal89
    gatorgal89 Member Posts: 56
    edited July 2015

    Here's to the next cake! Congrats!

  • RaiderGirl
    RaiderGirl Member Posts: 419
    edited August 2015

    Beachy,

    They ought to give you a cake.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited August 2015

    Beachy ... love the cake! And here's to many more years of cake!

    I am still battling those 10-15 lbs. I am disgusted with myself. My clothes are tight and my bra is uncomfortable. I hate it that my boobs grew too. I still have not given up the jelly beans ... no wonder I'm still fat.

    Keep up the good work gals ... you're my inspiration!

    hugs

    Bren

  • hodgy
    hodgy Member Posts: 15
    edited August 2015

    Hey Raidergirl.... it doesn't seem fair to go through all this cancer business AND have to worry about our weight, too! As soon as I started Tamoxifen I started researching everything I could get my hands on. Blogs from here and other cancer sites helped. Then, I went on line for more research. So far I have lost 19 pounds. Here is what I did.... I cut out "almost" all carbs - pasta, rice, potatoes, chips, cookies, alcohol- all the stuff I love. Yes, it was hard. I started to eat more veggies and fruit. I began making fruit smoothies in the morning with my blender and juicing green veggies in the afternoon with my juicer. Amazingly,there are books and apps with fantastic recipes for smoothies and juicing. In between, I eat lots of salads and add protein with almost every meal. I eat pistachios for snacks when I'm hungry in between. Be careful with juicing carrots and beets, though. They are loaded with carbs and can cause spikes in your triglyceride levels. It happened to me and I had to switch to mostly green veggies. An added benefit to smoothies and juicing was that I have more energy, it's cleared up my skin, lowered my appetite, taken, and taken away carb and coffee cravings! Unexpected benefits are great! Next, add exercise to all this and you will lose weight, too! Run, walk, ride a bike - do whatever you are comfortable doing! But be sure to add some weight resistance training to the mix. Remember the meds we take wants us to add pounds around the middle. So, lifting weights will help us gain muscle while losing the pounds. Most importantly, don't compare yourself to our non cancer friends. We are not the same. Yes, this is hard to do but if I did it so can you! Best wishes to all of us!
  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited August 2015

    Link is to a mixed thread, kind of have to scan. Diet stuff on the second page. to tired to go into what it says there, but it's basically about bacteria

    Seriously, the microbiome of the gut

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/73/topic/...

  • RaiderGirl
    RaiderGirl Member Posts: 419
    edited August 2015

    Hodgy

    Yep, Im doing just about the same. Im doing a modified South Beach which really means no white carbs. Lots of veges, lean protein, nuts cheese, etc.

    I have lost 10 lbs since May 28th. Its insanely slow.

    I only thing I missed allot was toast on Sunday morning. I now use Ezekiel Bread ( have you heard of this?) cinanmon raisin. One/two slices feels like decandence and there is nothing white in that bread.

    Keep taking care of you.

  • Sharazhad707
    Sharazhad707 Member Posts: 37
    edited September 2015

    Oh my word!! I thought I was alone with this weight gain thing. I hate it so much, since I've gained back the weight I've dropped. Nothing depresses me more than seeing the numbers on the scale rise :( My diet is somewhat paleo at the moment. More fresh fruit and veg, lots of the dark coloured veggies. Fresh meat and low carb. I've replaced potato with sweet potato... but honestly, I only eat when I have an appetite. Plus I just found out Im insulin resistant...which might have something to do with struggling to lose weight I think...?

    I used to work out pre-BC, now I'm just too tired to do anything; the thought of lifting weights scares me a little now. I committed myself to doing yoga, 30 minutes everyday, but it seems like such a chore now. Its the fatigue. it gets me. How do you ladies overcome it?


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