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  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited July 2015

    Steph, I hope you survived the chair today with no further ill-effects. Sending you good thoughts!

    Princess, hope you get feeling better and get some answers!

    Ksusan, no giant bug zapper for you, huh? Dang It! Sounds like your mom and mine would get along.

    Gawwwwddddd....6 more days until final chemo. Almost wore myself into total ambivalence about it. On one hand, chemo bites the big one. On the other hand, I feel like its keeping me safe...So glad you guys all get it. No one else does! This group is the best! My husband has totally checked out through the whole process. Hasn't been to one treatment, hasn't even driven me. He has managed to be gone for most of the last few months. I bet he won't go to my Radiation consult next week. Luckily, my parents are making the 3 hour drive over to be with me, and my Dad has been staying with me this week and cooking me breakfast every morning. He's so sweet. I am greatful for my parents, even when my Mom says creepy shit.

  • hartrish
    hartrish Member Posts: 380
    edited July 2015

    Sufali64, weight gain may be from the steroids. I don't like it either.

  • Rpayton
    Rpayton Member Posts: 235
    edited July 2015

    I hear ya' on the weight gain. I've gained 1-2lbs with each chemo every 3 weeks. Crave pasta, potatoes, bread and ice cream. I'm determined to up my walking, yoga and whatever else I can when I can during these next 2 I have. Im hoping it is mostly water weight that comes off fast?! After chemo will go back to more of my favs: fresh fruits, veggies, green tea. For now just riding the chemo steroid wave.

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited July 2015

    Good luck to anyone going to the chair today!

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited July 2015

    Gatekeeper at imaging center says I have to be menopausal to have the bone scan paid for by insurance. ?? Medically I'm not menopausal because I still produce estradiol and menstruated within the last two years. Wondering, though, if for these purposes "menopausal" just means "no periods." I was under the impression that a baseline bone density scan was pro forma prior to hormone suppression.

  • Scarlett152
    Scarlett152 Member Posts: 175
    edited July 2015

    just discussed this with MO yesterday. Since I'm on zoladex injections, the plan was to put me on an AI. However, I'm having such joint and bone pain from either the zoladex or the taxotere she wants me to do tamoxifen for 6 months to see if pain lessens. She said "at some point" I may have a bone density baseline, but since I have no prior history of osteopenia or osteoporosis there was no rush. I'd check with your insurance on the gatekeeper's opinion. Worth a call to insurer. I'd like to have one sooner than later, although I would prefer to avoid a bisphosfonate at any cost!!

  • Kniterly
    Kniterly Member Posts: 10
    edited July 2015

    I had last chemo yesterday!! Yay. So ready to finished with chemo. Have rads mapping next Wednesday but not sure of start date yet. 6 weeks.

    Good luck to everyone else finishing up! It's been a roller coaster ride for sure.


    Gina.

  • ankledolphin
    ankledolphin Member Posts: 99
    edited July 2015

    ksusan...i'm 39 and before i even started chemo i had a full bone scan and muga and ct....that is what my MO ordered...hate it when people who are not doctors can tell you what you can and can't do!!

    and i wasn't menopausal then...now is a different story!!

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited July 2015

    Doctors use s bone scan to look for metastasis. They use a bone density scan before AIs to assess bone density.

    Gina, Congratulations!!!!! Let the healing begin!

    Scarlett, Taxotere caused me horrible bone pain back in 3013. It was right up there with labor.

    KSusan, girl at the imaging center may not have had all of the facts. For most women, insurance will not cover a baseline bone density scan until menopause. Then many doctors do a baseline as a routine check. For BC patients who will be on an AI, they typically will.

    Renee, Taxotere is known for water retention.

    Can't scroll back further on my phone. Today is the first of my 2 "bad" days I get each round. I did my long walk and plan to veg, watch my kids in the pool, and do a whole lot of nothing. I am looking forward to a nice lazy day!!!!! Temp is just over 99... Creeps up a little more on my bad days each week. My daily little annoying bloody noses decided to take a turn for the worse and gush out blood this morning... Twice. I just threw my shirt away. Hoping to not have a repeat of that. Thankfully I still feel decent. Busy work week ahead!!!!! Wishing everyone a fabulous, relaxing, lazy summer weekend


  • ThePrincess
    ThePrincess Member Posts: 424
    edited July 2015

    KBee - my temp is floundering between 98.9 and 99.1 - which is DOWN for the first time since Tuesday thank goodness!!


  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited July 2015

    Kniterly- CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎈🎈🎈🎈😂😂😂🎈🎉🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔🔔

    Ring that bell! Although it is a moral victory and will help you mentally to know you are done, please make sure your circle of peeps understand your body is not done, and you still will need plenty of support for awhile. I am just two weeks out from finishing TC X 6 and I feel like unabated and unrelenting shit.

    Princess- glad to hear that temp has come down a bit. So worrying.

    Karen- I hadn't read before about your crushing bone pain in 2013. So sorry to hear that. But it helps me a bit to know. The combo of Neulasta and Taxotere has been powerfully painful, debilitating, and relentless. Also mentally helpful to hear about the water retention issue. Hopefully I will drop some of that over the next months.

    Ksusan- good luck straightening that scan issue out. I do hate it when gatekeepers get big for their britches and are wrong to boot!

    And Little Blue- I wanted to say something to you but found I wasn't finding the right words, so I delayed. But even without the right words, I wanted to say thanks for reaching "back to the future" to March to always be supportive of us, and in particular to me. It took on additional significance and poignance for me when you shared the other day that your not so DH has been absent for you during this time. That must be an awful blow. I am single, (recently finally divorced) so although I don't truly understand what this feels like, I do know that it's been disappointing when any friend or loved one has gone awol. And the more I expected from them, the more disappointing their disappearing act has been. I am very glad you shared, and I'm very sorry. Sending hugs. You have maintained a killer sense of humor and decorum through it all. A true class act.

    Everybody in the chair or feeling the SEs today, know there are many invisible hands holding yours right now.

  • Rpayton
    Rpayton Member Posts: 235
    edited July 2015

    Kbeee: you enjoy and im hoping you have a nice, long, lazy day. Well deserved!!!

    I'm in the chair for #5! Only 1 more to go. Next week will be my bad week if it is like last time it was a long nasty week of nausea, heartburn, insomnia, agitation, fast heart rate, tired, etc., etc. But my mind is saying nope going to stay on top of all the symptoms, walk more, add more yoga and do it different. We shall see...

    Anyone else that was in the chair this week hoping for happy days. Take one day and hour at a time.

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited July 2015

    rpayton: Go get that good stuff! I love your attitude, and you are definitely going to kick ass next week..even if kicking ass just means curling up on the couch and enjoying the AC. We are so worth it!

    Glad you are feeling a bit better, Princess!

    CONGRATS, GINA!!!!!!!!!!! WAY TO GO! WOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!

    ksusan: gatekeepers are stupid. insurance is stupid too. I moon your gatekeeper. (*)...thats my my bare heiny.

    Katie, so sorry you aren't feeling good yet. :( you are always so wise and well spoken, even in the depths of discomfort. I'm mooning your side effect, cause side effects are stupid too! big hugs!

    Well, had a PT appointment today...jeeze, my brain hurts. not my body, my brain. She has me activating all my core muscles, working on upper back strength, and trying to stretch my scars. I also got a lymph sleeve and gauntlet. It seemed like a good idea, and what do ya know, wearing the sleeve feels good. the gauntlet may be too small. So anyways, throwing it out there if anyone is on the fence about PT..I was super fit before cancer, and now I'm really not, but physical therapy is going to be a great tool. She said that they used to just kick people to the curb after treatment, but now that so many women are getting treated early and surviving, they are starting to be aggressive with QOL things like PT. Yup. Surviving. Not dying of breast cancer. And they treat a LOT of young women at my hospital, unfortunatly, so she knows wheroff she speaks. It ain't no bad cold, but it ain't no death sentence either. I know we all know that, but it never hurts to reinforce it!

  • Positive_spirit
    Positive_spirit Member Posts: 218
    edited July 2015

    Littleblue - all that mooning really helps. ;) You are too much, i.e. too much too cute! Sorry about your DH (hug) and I also know that loved ones tune out (like my SISTER, ugh!). And my bestest friend, who I would do anything for, was at his worst throughout my diagnosis, treatment, etc. Hurt like hell...but suddenly, I feel like I can let it go. Despite his bumbling nonsense (like "Lorraine, I just dreamt that demons were chasing me into your house" - HELLO?? Demons already came and were surgically removed, and then zapped with chemo. And by the way, I have just been to hell and back), I am in the forgiving mode. Life is too short and I want to live it up.

    Thanks everyone for the words of support. I am cheering on those still on chemo..waiting for you all to be done with that stuff. I am going to talk to my MO next week and see if they can put me on anti-depressants. My therapist suggested it was a good idea and my usual anti-depression strategies are not working for me. Went back to work today and will go in once a week. Don't like my workplace but I do like the insurance that comes with it - prioritizing the insurance.

    Love to all of you on this Friday night. If we were in one room, I would dance with all of you!

  • lovlilynne
    lovlilynne Member Posts: 405
    edited July 2015

    Hi Ladies, last day of vacation for me :-( We pack up and go home tomorrow. Today was busy with breakfast out, the beach, and ended with having cooked lobsters and steamers delivered. Although I hate for it to end, it was a great two weeks, even with the time out for treatment and having to deal with side effects while I was here.

    Jen, do you know - or does anyone know if PT is recommended if you've just had lumpectomy and chemo? I could sure use some help getting my core back in shape. My walking this week has brought me a blister, strained achilles, and 3 bruised and soon to fall off toe nails, but I'd like to continue with activity when I get back.

    Rene, thinking of you and everyone else that was in the chair this week. Will you do anything different based on your SE last time? This time I tried to keep up with the ibu, and I think it did help. I haven't had any since Wednesday now, and I'm happy about that. I think the most annoying SE that is left is my leaking eyes and nose. Especially nose - embarrassing to have snot just start dripping out . . .

    KB, I am so sorry to hear about your taste buds. Yuck. As you know, I was afraid to hear about that SE, but I'm not getting it (KOW). I have one day when my mouth feels like one day after burning it on hot coffee or something. Then it gets better.

    Regarding weight, I have been bouncing up and down the same ~5 pounds. At one point, I dropped down about 6 and stayed there for a couple of days - I was thinking it was about time seeing as I haven't been drinking, it means a lot of calories that I have not been consuming. Once the warmer weather hit, I've been indulging in ice coffees - which I drink with cream, even though I usually drink hot coffee black. I still don't think it's as many calories as the wine and drinks. Anyway, it doesn't seem to make a difference, but I'm glad that I haven't gained. I will be interested to see what i weigh after vacation. I certainly have indulged in favorite vacation food and treats, but the constant exercise has always been the only way that i can lose weight.

    Lorraine, sorry to hear about your BF. It's hard enough to navigate relationships when everything is "ok", never mind when we are ill. I admire your attitude - it takes effort to let stuff go. I still don't know what DH is thinking about all this - he just continues on like nothing is going on. He's one of these "askholes" - someone who constantly asks stupid questions or things he's already asked me. I just don't have the energy for it, I've started to just say "I don't know." even when he asks me something like "what day is it?".

    Counting down to T#3 on Monday - trying to stay in the moment of these "good" days until then (and even take advantage of being jacked on steroids for a couple of days).

    Lynne

  • lovlilynne
    lovlilynne Member Posts: 405
    edited July 2015

    Forgot to post pictures:

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    Our delivery guy

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    My lobster,and yes,that's my wine :-)

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    A picture of me with my beach hat on our deck. Ocean is behind right shoulder, but difficult to see in picture.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited July 2015

    Woo! Littleblue moon!

    #29: I am grateful to begin frying the mutants.

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited July 2015

    imageSeems like a completely reasonable metaphor for my feelings about cancer ☺

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited July 2015

    imageAgain, cancer.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited July 2015

    Littleblue, Yes...SURVIVING! That is how we need to try to live now. Easier said than done some days, but I try to keep my body in shape so I can live as normally as possible afterwards.

    Lynne, Love the vacation photos. You look so relaxed!

    Positive spirit, We all need to do a collective dance when the last of us finishes!!!

    Renee, I hope your side effects are staying away!!!

    Katy, I hope you start to turn the corner and feel a little better each day.

    Tina, I hope that temp goes DOWN...and stays there!

    I affixed my halo wig to my ball cap at work, and I think that is going to work for the parade today and for the couple hours I will be in our FD's boat helping with the cardboard boat regatta. It's much cooler than my wig, though a little itchy. My hair is still trying to make a comeback, but it'll be a month of 2 before there's more than fuzz there. My eyebriws are making no such attempt at returning.

  • Rpayton
    Rpayton Member Posts: 235
    edited July 2015

    Kbeee you will look great halo or not on that ball cap. Hang in there on the eyebrows. I hear they have latisse now for eyelashes and brows. Going to talk to my internal med Dr after chemo.

    Lynne vacation photos awesome and great memories you have made to reflect on.

    Littleblue my reaction exactly on the spider photos. Haha

    Hope everyone doing well one day at a time. Already have no taste, metal mouth this morn. Yuck.

    But keeping busy getting better at crochet. My meditation. My niece has her first birthday in Sept. Starting a little collection for her.

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  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited July 2015

    Rpayton, those are beautiful!

    Lynne, my BS and MO are happy to offer PT to anyone who feels they need it. Not sure how it works at other hospitals, but it seems like it would be worth asking!

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited July 2015

    RPayton- what a lovely collection! So nice to have something you can pick up and put down. Not so easy I imagine, to keep track of the pattern with chemo brain, haha.The work is beautiful! And every time you see you grandchild in them, I hope it reminds you not of tough times, but how tough you've been during these times. You should be very proud of any accomplishment while going through all of this- but these are exceptional !!!

  • Rpayton
    Rpayton Member Posts: 235
    edited July 2015

    Thanks everyone for the compliments on the crochet. I'm very much a beginner and like easy patterns.

    Everyone share your hobbies when you get a chance. We need all the distractions we can get. We have cancer but cancer is not our life and doesn't take away our power to do new things.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited July 2015

    I meant to say the adorable lavender hat is my favorite so far. I used to knit when my mom was alive. She would fix my mistakes. I could never get out of the messes I got my work into. She taught herself to quilt, and later after she passed, I took some classes so I could connect with her memory. Some of you may have seen this already, but this is a 4th of July quilt I did about 4 years ago. (Hope you all don't mind me horning in on your group- I'm starting to feel it's a second home....)

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    I ran out of fabric on the back, so a more experienced friend helped me devise this Popsicle on a stick so the mistake wouldn't be noticed. Some of the best things come from boo boos. Haha.

    image

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited July 2015

    Lovely! Thanks for posting the photo.

    I'm in the middle of teaching a class on HIV (I have a video running), and it reminds me that I'm still happy not to have HIV!

  • georgie61
    georgie61 Member Posts: 95
    edited July 2015

    Hi Everyone!

    I just finished my DD Taxol yesterday - my last Neulasta shot today - and in 12 days I have my last DD Taxol. The SE's are just starting to hit - nauseous, tired, and losing my taste buds - but knowing the end is in sight is helping psychologically. I'm glad that the chemo is almost done but know I'm overwhelmed with my next stage - Surgery. It will be scheduled at my next appointment when I meet with BS.

    As much as I feel good about my doctors and the care I've got so far - I can't seem to get an answer that makes sense on choice of surgeries. I'm 95% sure I'm opting for double mastectomy with reconstruction but they keep telling me that there is no evidence that a lumpectomy wouldn't offer me the same protection. That doesn't even make sense to me. I'm triple negative, at least 2 lymph nodes were positive, and tumor was 4 cm's when I started. They emphasized how fast growing everything was at the beginning; how can it not be better to remove all of the breast tissue? Anyone else have a similar experience?? They told me I for sure am getting radiation either way. I guess my feeling is - I think I need it for my mental health. I want to know I did everything I could with no regrets. Does that make sense?

    I cracked up with all the eyebrow stories. My right one has just thinned a little - but my left one has completely disappeared on the outside about half way...so I feel like I need to draw it on before I go out. My eyelashes are sporadic so I quit wearing mascara - it just draws more attention to them. If I thought there was even a chance that I could put on false eyelashes successfully I'd try it - but I know myself too well!

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited July 2015

    Georgie, There seems to be a big push among docs lately to encourage lumpectomies. I have read many articles written by physiciams where they discuss why women are choosing mastectomies instead of lumpectomies "despite the same overall survival". Frankly, these articles burn me up. It is YOUR choice which surgery to have and yours alone. Yes, the overall survival is the same. However, what they don't tell you unless you push them, is that local recurrence is higher with lumpectomy. Their attitude is that if you have a recurrence, no big deal, you can do BMX then. No big deal to them, but I can tell you that having a recurrence IS a big deal. BMX does not guarantee you will not have a recurrence. I am exhibit A of that. Nevertheless, I do not for one minute regret my decision. I had tiny breasts and if you took a lump, you were pretty much taking the whole breast anyway, so for me it was a no brainer. Do what feels right for you...whether it's lumpectomy, mastectomy, or BMX.

    Katy, The quilt is beautiful!

    RPayton, I love the items you've crocheted. They are so cute!!!

    I survived the morning parade walking a few miles and handing out candy. I also survived my time in the boat making sure the cardboard boats all made it out of the pond/lake. My family all went to the summer festival for dinner tonight, but I chose to not dine on vendor food of unknown sanitary quality, and instead chose to stay on the couch and eat leftovers. I am enjoying the quiet time home alone. I'm going to attempt to run a 5K in the morning. I'm hoping I wake up with some energy...which seems to be lacking at the moment! I am very much a morning person, so I know tomorrow should be more energetic! After tomorrow, it's a new week, which means I will get to check one more Taxol off the list in a couple of days...always a good thing!


  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited July 2015

    Georgie- I had the double. I was also told and read for myself what Kbee just explained. My main reason was that I didn't want to have the continued screenings, scannings, pokings and proddings that would have continued if there was something there to run through a machine. It was almost an entirely psychological reason. For me, I just didn't want to live that way. I had very large and dense breasts, and I felt certain that down the road there would be "suspiciousnes" of a nature that would require biopsies ....... And waiting for results.....the dreaded waiting.

    It is a very individual decision. The ONLY important thing is that you do and get what is right for you. YOU.

  • georgie61
    georgie61 Member Posts: 95
    edited July 2015

    Thank you for the support on this Jackbirdie! I would love the easier recovery of a lumpectomy - but I think the extra recovery time will be worth the peace of mind. I'm glad I'm not alone on this.

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