DCIS - "no big deal"?
Hi - I'm wondering if anyone has ever experienced what I'm going thru. I was just diagnosed with DCIS (right breast) in May. High Nuclear Grade 3, solid and comedo patterns, with focal microcalcifiations. My breast surgeon and others are making me feel like "it's no big deal" and "it's a walk in the park". I understand it's been caught very early and believe me when I say I'm so happy. Also, I don't want to "over think it", but it's still a little scary non the less. I haven't researched too much, because when I do and ask questions, pretty much all I get is that it's a "99% cure rate". So I don't know if I'm overlooking anything? Scheduled for lumpectomy 07/20/15 and again was told that's "not a big deal" and getting no info on it other than to appear for the surgery. Thank you in advance to anyone who will share their thoughts!
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Hi Suzmarie:
I think your doctors are just trying to be encouraging, if perhaps mildly lacking in bedside manner. While DCIS certainly has a very good prognosis, and you should indeed be encouraged by that, I also think that as a patient it is scary.
This site has some good introductory materials on DCIS here:
http://www.breastcancer.org/symptoms/types/dcis
And info about grade and "comedo" necrosis here (bottom half, with illustrations):
http://www.breastcancer.org/symptoms/types/dcis/di...
Also, if you haven't already found it, for a more detailed introduction to DCIS, please read Beesie's excellent post here:
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/68/topic/.
I asked my provider if they had any educational materials about mastectomy--turns out they had an on-line mini-course that they hadn't bothered to mention before! Anyway, you could ask your doctor or nurse navigator if they have any educational materials about lumpectomy, and whether you will be having a course of radiation after.
Also, maybe another member who has had a lumpectomy can chime in and direct you to some good resources.
BarredOwl
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Hi Suzmarie!
I'm sorry that your doctors are making light of your diagnosis. DCIS does have a good prognosis but surgery is surgery. I had a lumpectomy in January. It was performed as an outpatient surgery. (I was home by 4:00 pm that day.) The most uncomfortable part of it was the wire insertion, which shows the surgeon precisely what tissue has to be removed. There is an awesome thread on this site, The Lumpectomy Lounge. Whenever I had questions, I would post them there and the lumpectomy pros would answer them.
Barred Owl is right that you should ask about radiation. You might also ask whether they plan to take out any lymph nodes, like the sentinel node. Also, ask about what you should wear after surgery. Some surgeons will wrap you up tightly; others prefer that you bring a compression or tight sports bra to wear. Such a bra is necessary so you don't develop seromas (sacs of fluid that form where your tissue was removed). Also, ask about whether the surgeon will be inserting a drain. Many ladies who get lumpectomies don't get drains, but I did.
Hope that you get the answers you need! Best wishes!
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I don't think DCIS is "no big deal" or "a walk in the park". My MO said my risk of recurrence of the same tumor is small (2-3%) but my risk of a new BC is higher than someone who has never had BC before. That alone is enough for me to take it seriously. There was not enough tumor left after pathology finished for an Oncotype test, so my risk % comes from a Sloan-Kettering risk calculator. However, that calculator is based on tamoxifen and external radiation. I am on an AI and had intraoperative radiation, so I really do not know what my risk is - just that it is higher than before diagnosis and higher than others.
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Hi all. Suzmarie, your story is 99% similar to that of my mother's. Down to dates, pathology, and all. Hers was Er positive and PR weakly positive. She was just dx'd with DCIS, moderate to high grade, with solid and necrotic components, with one area of microinvasion. Her surgery is July 15th. Her BS also said that this was no big deal, and even suggested that a simple lumpectomy without radiation might be possible. We've been scrambling to find out more information, about proper treatment etc. The BS mentioned mastectomy, but didn't give her a chance to choose that. He downplayed everything and said this was not a big deal. She is going to have her lumpectomy and they are going to do a sentinel node bx as well, because of the microinvasion. Based on what I've read, I think she needs radiation and some sort of hormone therapy to avoid recurrence. I don't know how bad the side effects are. She is so scared and doesn't want to make any decisions. She wants to leave all the decisions up to my father and myself, knowing we would do our best for her best interests. Good luck to you.
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Dear Suzmarie and MomhasBC, welcome to Breastcancer.org! We're so sorry for the circumstances that bring you here, but we're so very glad you've found and joined this wonderful and supportive community. As you can already tell, these ladies here are a wealth of knowledge, guidance and support. We hope you find what you need among us!
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my doctors haven't said "no big deal" but they have said that they will take care of me and I will be fine. I think it's a big deal. It's scary.
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Hi all -
Thank you so much for your responses, helpful insights and encouraging words!
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I think doctors do down-play the serious nature of this type of BC and I believe they see it as a very early and highly curable type of BC. BUT, they are not the one experiencing the diagnosis and treatment so imho, they should never make light of such a serious disease in ANY stage. They should encourage and tell you that this is the best of the worst case scenarios but that they take it seriously and will get you through it with treatment and encouragement. I hate that so many view this as a non-issue when clearly anytime they cut into you and then fry you it is clearly serious enough. Also taking any of the chemo-preventative meds are not without issues for many as well. Ugh...sorry they made you feel this way. Hugs...we get it around here!
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Hi Suzmarie,
So sorry you have to be going through this. I too was diagnosed with DCIS June 24, 2015. My BS did not down play this. She indeed say it's a cancer. I have been researching like crazy. I am the type that needs to know everything. I am going for a 2nd opinion next thursday down in Sloan Kettering, NYC. Not to scare you, but it is a big deal. Yes, if detected early its has a very high cure rate. None the less, it's still cancer and if left alone may turn into invasive cancer. Good luck to you on the 20th, you will be in my thoughts and prayers.
xo Grace
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You may find it very helpful to speak with the nurse navigator at your hospital and/or breast care center rather than relying on your surgeon's office for information. The navigators are there to answer your questions and provide resources. They GET how concerned you are and that surgery is intimidating.
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With DCIS, the grade can give some indication about seriousness. I had grade 3, too dispersed for a lumpectomy, so I had a mastectomy. Yes, a big deal, even if the recurrence rate is lower.
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