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  • dragonista17
    dragonista17 Member Posts: 50
    edited July 2015

    Valentine, glad to hear your skin is healing. It's so encouraging to hear this.

    Having my second treatment today, and have been concerned about skin reactions. It still feels so surreal, going through this. Somehow I'm more scared today than I was for the first tx yesterday. Go figure. And I'm exhausted, which is probably more emotional than physical, but who knows. One day at a time.

  • MotherofFour
    MotherofFour Member Posts: 24
    edited July 2015

    My doctor gave me a prescription for Biafine. Haven't tried it yet.

  • MotherofFour
    MotherofFour Member Posts: 24
    edited July 2015

    -I just started rads yesterday. . .25 treatments, no boost due to DCIS. They are putting a brass-like mesh over my foob to "boost" the radiation to the skin, otherwise, the rads might not kill the cancer on the skin. So here is my question. . .I am doing rads for preventative due to a close margin posterior, on the chest wall, not toward the skin. So why does my skin need a boost? Especially since I will be having reconstruction and would like to avoid any complications if at all possible.

    -I will be asking my doctor on Tuesday, but I was wondering if anyone else is getting this brass mesh or gel-like cover to 'boost' to the skin area.

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited July 2015

    MotherofFour, I can't answer your question, but I can tell you they use a clear gel-like pad called a bolus on me every other day as part of my treatment. They told me it keeps the radiation more on my skin and also protects my internal organs from getting too much radiation.

  • pboi
    pboi Member Posts: 663
    edited July 2015

    I have a similar pad like Darumama, for a similar reason. I have had 3/25 treatments with it. Am wondering why Darumama you only get it every other day? I'll have to ask again about that pad.

    PB

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited July 2015

    I don't know PB. I'm supposed to have it again tomorrow and will ask more about it.

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited July 2015

    I don't know PB. I'm supposed to have it again tomorrow and will ask more about it.

  • Midgiemoon
    Midgiemoon Member Posts: 174
    edited July 2015

    I just had my first treatment. It was very short! I put on my lotion and now I am home. It's very strange to be home at 330pm...

  • PatRN10
    PatRN10 Member Posts: 332
    edited July 2015

    My tech told me that skin folds such as with women with large breasts can also create a bolus effect.

  • sailorbev
    sailorbev Member Posts: 75
    edited July 2015

    I had my first of 36 treatments today. I called a few hours before and asked about a PT referral for the shoulder pain. The techs told me that they wouldn't be able to order the referral until next week. The only thing I can think of is that the nurse is away until next week and the RO (who was there today) didn't want to be bothered. I tried the MO (also out of town) and finally my PCP's office. They said they would do it and I would hear from the PT's office. Still waiting...  It shouldn't be this hard. 

  • Midgiemoon
    Midgiemoon Member Posts: 174
    edited July 2015

    Hi,

    As I mentioned I had my first treatment today. I am feeling warmth and tingling in the radiated breast 5 hours later. Is this normal??


    Thanks!


    ~Midgie

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited July 2015

    Darumama - Glad you were able to get your dental issue worked out. Thank heaven for small mercies, right?

    I was able to have my treatment yesterday; they called about 3:15 and said I could come in at 4:30 which was a bit of a scramble but I was glad not to have a day tacked on at the end.

    Sailorbev - here's another vote for PT. I hope it helps you a LOT!

    For those of you with cold, uncaring techs - try speaking to the department manager or your RO about the situation. The techs may not realize how impersonally they are treating you and how that impacts the experience. I've found that speaking to the higher ups helps. If you don't know where to start, ask the RO dept. social worker. There's no need for the experience to be any worse than it has to be, after all.

  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited July 2015

    i had treatment 3 today and went real fast. I have a question. Do you think we are each possibly getting different radiation Levels. Even tho we may all get the same number of them. The reason I ask is maybe that's why some are having better outcomes because their intensity is different. When they explained my treatment plan change they said they increased the dose to that inner breast area which just hit me that could be what's happening.

  • Gatomal
    Gatomal Member Posts: 483
    edited July 2015

    live-deliciously...we certainly are getting different radiation levels and different locations. I'm getting full Breast, and level three nodes, and supraclavicular nodes. When I asked the RO how much I'm getting she said a "medium amount" I asked for Breast cancer or for any Cancer in general. She said for Breast cancer. You can try to see how much you are getting specifically in millisieverts. I think that is the label. I find that I have passing waves of nausea, sometimes after treatment, sometimes later in the night. The RO said not possible! Like it's all in my head? Talked to some others in the waiting room, and they have gotten some nausea too. I had a heck of a time getting some more Zofran from my doc, but she gave it to me. I think it's pretty silly to deny that as a possible SE. My med onc laughed when I told him.15 down, 10 to go. Getting pinker everyday

  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited July 2015

    so when some people are "burning" early maybe they are getting a strong dose? Now im curious what level dose I'm receiving and why. Will ask in Monday.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited July 2015

    Like sunburn (just for comparison--it's not the same), some people also will burn more easily.

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited July 2015

    I think it also might depend on how intense the radiation is to the skin. I had no issue except one day of rash on thin sternum skin when I received 26 whole breast rads. BUT, three days after finishing the 7 boosts with boluses (to radiate the skin better) I turned bright red and the nipple peeled and was very tender for three days. Maybe it was caused by doing the last two boosts in one day.

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited July 2015
    SweetHope - OUCH! I was wondering how your skin was doing this week and am sorry to hear it went that route. It could have been the boluses that caused the burning, although I, too, wonder about the 2 sessions in one day.

    How is your skin and your energy level at this point?
  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited July 2015

    i asked my tech what level of dose I was getting and he said average. He told me the number 1600 for the whole breast ea time and 2000 for ea boost and a total of 6000 over the entire treatment. I can't remember what he said the measurement was so I'll ask tomorrow. I think it was cgy?

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited July 2015

    Hi, Hopeful. My skin is red exactly where the boost hit, but it is not broken or blistered. The nipple is much better today. My DDIL gave me a sample of eczema cream, Protopic, which I used alternating with Aquafor. I'm pushing myself more each day to get my energy level up; nothing strenuous, more painting flower boxes and housecleaning. But it is so hot outside, I melt quickly.

    How are you doing? Hope you are flying through Rads without any issues.

    Please update your profile. I read everyone's profile with each of their posts. I am going to need to update mine tomorrow after my MO gives me a Rx for hormone therapy.

    Best wishes to all. And remember Sunscreen every day.

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited July 2015

    I want to add a cautionary tale about too much sun on radiated skin. A dear friend had his neck radiated about ten years ago. He never used sunscreen, or protected his neck in any way; and he has spent a lot of time outdoors fishing. Now his neck has become so leathery that he can not have surgery to clear a blocked carotid artery. Several surgeons have told him there is no way for the skin to heal.

    Please use sunscreen from now on, on all areas that received radiation. Also, be sure to apply it to your arms since we all are susceptible to lymphodema

  • Mag1913
    Mag1913 Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2015

    Hi everyone,

    I will be starting on the first of 36 treatments on July 15th! I guess my question is...what if you naturally have dry, itchy skin before even starting? Will that affect me more? My itchiness comes mainly at night when I take my bra off, I've also been known to dig at my breasts at night while I sleep!

  • dragonista17
    dragonista17 Member Posts: 50
    edited July 2015

    I'm getting the shorter term, higher dose treatment but was told that side effects are the same as the more extended treatment. Reactions really an individual thing, I think - hard to predict. I slather on fresh aloe immediately after treatment and before bed. My RO and the techs say you can't use too much. When I get home from treatment (also in the morning), I use plain cornstarch, and again as needed if I overheat during the day, which is a lot, Of course, I just started tx this week, hoping this works for the duration.

  • molly1976
    molly1976 Member Posts: 403
    edited July 2015

    I finished my last full breast treatment for the shorter course today and it's totally fine! Just a little pink. They say it will continue to get worse for the next 7-10 days and obviously I still have the 5 boosts left but I'm hopeful that I'm going to get out of this mostly unscathed.

  • FastWalker
    FastWalker Member Posts: 98
    edited July 2015

    Hello Everyone!

    I start radiation on Monday, July 13th in the prone position. I am getting 26 whole breast radiations and 7 boosts, for a total of 33. August 26th can't come soon enough! Getting really anxious. At least the sessions are short.

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited July 2015

    Mag, it would be a good idea for you to start really babying your skin now. Having dry skin you probably do so already but at this point you can't overdo it! And if ever there's a time to spend what it takes for a really effective lotion or treatment, this is it!

    That being said you don't have to spend a bundle. BioOil is not expensive and seems to do a great job. I've been using Emu oil since 2-3 weeks prior to RT and it's very soothing. A little goes a long ways! I got mine through Amazon but I also know some health food stores, etc., carry it and it's not that expensive.

    You might want to call your treatment center this week and talk with the nurses about their recommendations. It can take a while to locate recommended products, so ask for sources, too! Good luck.

    Fast Walker, I hope all goes smoothly. Try some deep breathing exercises - they're good for your skin (oxygenating) and your mind.

    SweetHope - Painting flower boxes sounds worthwhile and fun! Enjoy. Thanks for sharing your friend's situation - what a shame about his skin and all the very serious ramifications of its condition. Who would have thought?

    I'm hesitant to update my profile as I HATE the new format. I could fix the signature line but haven't gotten around to it. ;)

    SailorBev - Call and nag the PT's office. Otherwise, it may be a long time before they call you. You're right - it shouldn't be that hard!

  • Midgiemoon
    Midgiemoon Member Posts: 174
    edited July 2015

    Hi Fastwalker!

    I am on the same treatment path as you. My 33 sessions started yesterday and I end on 8/21. So far, the session lasts less than 5 minutes from the time I get called until I am back changing into my clothes. I put my lotion on and head out the door. I am going in the afternoons. My work is 40 miles from home, so I work until 2, then head back to my cancer center, get my treatment, and drive 3 miles home. I have been napping when I get home (after I take my bra off and change into a t shirt and shorts). So far so good.


    My treatments are so brief, that I don't have time to pray or meditate! My center has a beautiful painting on the ceiling, so I end up just looking at that during the time I am on the table.


    Wishing you the best!


    ~Miidgie

  • sailorbev
    sailorbev Member Posts: 75
    edited July 2015

    I had treatment 2/36 today and the pain in my shoulder was worse than ever. I was on the table for 25 minutes. Isn't that a long time?  Anyway, I did get an appointment with a PT for next Tuesday (no thanks to the RO). So at least there is one bit of good news. 

    It is such a strange feeling to be getting the treatment and have absolutely no idea what is going on. Lights on, lights off, lights on, move the table, move the machine, move the machine again. Techs in the room, then out, then in. All the while I am lying on the table in pain. 

  • Midgiemoon
    Midgiemoon Member Posts: 174
    edited July 2015

    SailorBev,

    25 minutes is long! I am sorry you are in so much pain! I wonder why they take so long? Are the techs adjusting you? My mold holds me in place so they don't have to scoot me around much at all. The table goes up, then the machine goes around me and I hear some buzzing and I am done. The techs come in, lower the Tablet, and help me up, and I am on my way..

    After my planning appointment and dry run, my two treatments have lasted less than 5 minutes each.


    I sure hope this gets easier for you, shoulder therapy is very helpful. Keep us posted!


    Hugs!


    ~Midgie


  • Valentine99
    Valentine99 Member Posts: 75
    edited July 2015

    Metta, for a week after I finished my skin was burning, and some new places actually started up that didn't hurt when I was still in rads. After that first week things started settling down, and now 2 weeks out I no longer have any touchy spots. Just dealing with the peeling and itching.

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