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  • HockeyCat
    HockeyCat Member Posts: 222
    edited June 2015

    Happy National Running Day!

    My running partner and I decided to run Rock 'n Roll Half Marathon in Vegas on 11/15!Most of RNR has discount up to $20 if you register today. No discount for Vegas though. :(

    www.runrocknroll.com/why-running-rocks

  • Rseman
    Rseman Member Posts: 281
    edited June 2015

    Yes Happy Running Day!! I did 6 miles before work this morning. Didn't feel the best but got it done. I really need to focus on my cross training though. I do NOT want any injuries.

    Run safe all!

  • panthrah
    panthrah Member Posts: 433
    edited June 2015

    you can put me down for the Star Wars 10k Jan 16, 2016.

    we will be working the Star Wars half with the 501st ( the people who dress up like stormtroopers etc)

    and for my other rundisney people.. Star Wars goes on sale June16th . and surprisingly enough... Avengers still has spots open for the half in Nov

  • Rseman
    Rseman Member Posts: 281
    edited June 2015

    Whooohooo just ran my first training run for the NYC Marathon. 8 miles in Central Park this morning with Fred's Team. It was HOT!!! During the second loop at around 6.5 I just kept thinking how the heck am I going to do this. Good thing I had a motivational running partner who kept me in line. If he wasn't there I may have started walking :)

    Keep hydrated all!

    Renee

  • Oncearunneralwaysarunner
    Oncearunneralwaysarunner Member Posts: 252
    edited June 2015

    FairyDogMother - great job on the half, I got a chuckle reading your sign and knowing I wasn't the only one who named my tumour :)

    littleblueflowers - how are the toe socks working out?

    HockeyCat - I'm glad you are enjoying "What makes Olga run". I noticed that the author of "Born to Run" has a new book out. I'm waiting for it to be printed in soft cover before getting it but I'm sure it will be a good read.

    Rseman - good job on getting the training run under your water bottle belt! And thanks for the reminder to stay hydrated in this warm weather.

    I've started training for my half in September and so far I have done every single training run on my schedule expect for yesterday's. Then again we held a garage sale and I was a bit zonked after it all. Heck, both my husband and I fell asleep on top of the covers around 8:00 after putting the little one to bed. I think it's ok to miss a 3k run when you have been running around all day :)

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited June 2015

    The toe socks are saving my life! They are the best thing ever for blister prevention!

  • HockeyCat
    HockeyCat Member Posts: 222
    edited June 2015

    Oncearunner, I'd love to read the new book by Christopher McDougall. I read books on my Kindle Paperwhite, and can borrow e-book from Public Library. I put it in my reading list!

    Panthrah, I wonder why Avengers half hasn't sold out yet...

  • Rseman
    Rseman Member Posts: 281
    edited June 2015

    I am so bummed. I missed my first summer series race on Monday night. It was a five mile race. I am on trial at work and when that happens everything else comes to a stand still. I was also going to do six miles tonight but have been working nonstop. Add to that the fact that my two year old has croup and this is one hectic household right now.

    All I want to do is run!!!!

  • panthrah
    panthrah Member Posts: 433
    edited June 2015

    Hockeycat, I think its cause last years course was awful (and we had santa ana's) so people are weary. as of right now the Star War Half is only 62% full.. 5k, 10k, and rebel challenge sold out.

    oh and the cost of runDisney events prolly has something to do with it.

    And now Im in for the Star Wars 5k jan 15th, 2016

    Rseman.. there will be time. Im sorry things are wonky.. itll even out soon and then you can fly :)

  • Rseman
    Rseman Member Posts: 281
    edited June 2015

    I have a running gear question. So I'm realizing that when training for a marathon I can't let weather hold me back! What is the most important and best rain gear to have when training during the summer months? Looking forward to a 9 mile training run in Central Park tomorrow morning and looks like I am going to miss the next two races for the summer series :(

  • Karz72
    Karz72 Member Posts: 160
    edited June 2015

    Most important item is a hat! Nothing worse than rain in your eyes while running :-)

    If it's going to be really wet then avoid new shoes, need them well worn in & they also won't be the same again.

    As for clothes, anything that dries quickly / doesn't absorb water.

  • Oncearunneralwaysarunner
    Oncearunneralwaysarunner Member Posts: 252
    edited June 2015

    yes a cap or visor is a must in the rain! I wear glasses and if I don't have a cap and it's raining, well... I guess it depends on how hot it is outside for other layers. I find that wearing anything too bulky causes some chafing. Compression shorts and a fitted shirt work best for me during warm rains. I have a good running shell but I find that it keeps the rain out pretty well which means that the sweat doesn't go out. The most important thing for me though is the dry change of clothes and a towel for after the run :)

  • Rseman
    Rseman Member Posts: 281
    edited June 2015

    Just ordered the new shoes and I've opted for the visor. Now I'm just not sure which one to get. What's your favorite visor all? Today I ran a little over 9 miles. I met a fantastic woman and we did it together. I am so glad I decided to train for my first marathon this way. I am meeting so many fantastic people!

  • panthrah
    panthrah Member Posts: 433
    edited June 2015

    i have the halo visor . it keeps the sweat from dripping down your face. HOWEVER.. the plastic/rubber piece that does this on the inside brim.. does leave a nice little dent on your forehead. so pretty much i leave it on til im not around people anymore :p but it works great

  • MMay
    MMay Member Posts: 27
    edited June 2015


    I am recently diagnosed and have not started my chemo yet but soon. I am very active and hate to see my muscle turn to mush and my weight drop since I have been going through this...surgery, healing, waiting for what is next... So this thread made me happy. I cannot wait to hit it hard again and join this thread one day saying "I ran this many miles today..." Go get um ladies and thanks.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited June 2015

    Hi everyone

    I've missed you all. I've been offline thanks to damage to my computer just as I left for a trip. Once I got home, I found an old computer but don't have any of my passwords on it. So, once the repair is done, I'll have a lot of passwords to reset. I did not run much in Hong Kong - it was 33C (100F or so, 40C on the humidex, with overnight lows of 28C). But I did walk a LOT, both intentionally and getting lost as usual. I generally love getting lost because I stumble across the coolest areas. (I stick to cities, though. No deserted forests or rocky crevasses to rescue me from!) On one walk with my running shoes and Garmin on, I passed through Victoria Park and did a few laps of a gorgeous treed outdoor running track there. I'd love to run that again. HK is not a good location for GPS souvenirs because the tall buildings bounce the signal so much, but I have the general route I took. Easily 14km one day, 12km another couple days. I hit (or doubled) my step targets every day between walks and walking around on business.

    That said, I am due to start training for the Dumbo Double Dare and hope to start accounting for my progress here.

    On the rainy running, my general practice is to wimp out of it, but the last Wine & Dine was a deluge and I had a lot of problems with rain and fogging in my Rx running glasses. That was awful. And the waterlogged shoes were so very heavy I think it contributed a lot to my soreness in the hips. I think I need better strategies myself. Will watch this space for all your great tips.

    MMay, welcome to the thread. We look forward to reading your runs too.

  • Oncearunneralwaysarunner
    Oncearunneralwaysarunner Member Posts: 252
    edited June 2015

    welcome MMay, I hope you find this tread helpful and that you will be posting about your own runs shortly. feel free to ask any question you have about running during treatment.

    As for visors, I don't have a favourite brand, I have three different visors from three different companies. As long as you like the fit then that should work well :)

  • Rseman
    Rseman Member Posts: 281
    edited June 2015

    Wecome MMay!! This thread is so inspiring. It also seems like everyone lives near Disney World

    I've missed my first three summer series runs because of work and tomorrow I am missing a long training run because I'm sick. The doc told me I needed to sleep in and rest that I'm doing too much. I'm bummed but I will listen to her advice.

    I splurged today on a new visor and running shorts to make me feel better so hopefully I'll be up and moving soon!

    Have fun logging in the miles this weekend everyone.

  • Oncearunneralwaysarunner
    Oncearunneralwaysarunner Member Posts: 252
    edited June 2015

    Rseman - I hope you get over your cold soon and that work will stop interfering with your runs ;)

    I thought of another necessity when running in the rain: a small ziplock back for your cell phone if you run with your phone. The small snack size bags hold an iPhone 6 with case just fine. Plus you can still use your phone without having to take it out of the bag! It just keeps things dry.

    Yep, my run yesterday was a bit wet yesterday.

  • meljo614
    meljo614 Member Posts: 180
    edited June 2015

    Once, can you add a couple runs for me?  Storm the Bastille 5k, July 9th, downtown Milwaukee and Susan G. Race for the Cure 9/27.  I know there are a lot of Susan G. haters out here so hopefully nobody is offended, but I started participating in this event several years ago when I was invited by a friend with BC.  I lost that friend to the disease this year and will continue to run it in her honor because it was meaningful to her.  Thanks!!

     

  • Rseman
    Rseman Member Posts: 281
    edited July 2015

    Thanks for the info Oncearunner!! My cold turned into a sinus infection. I had no idea how debilitating those could be!! I am hoping to get back out there on Saturday and pick up where I left off. I've got my visor and a second pair of sneakers. Now I just need the miles :)

    Happy 4th All!

  • watersup1
    watersup1 Member Posts: 5
    edited July 2015

    Hi everyone -- first-time posting, almost exactly a year to the day of my BC diagnosis.

    Has anyone who had radiation to their left breast and/or is taking Tamoxifen having trouble with endurance during running? I've been a runner for years -- more of a distance runner than fast. Took time off during my treatment -- lumpectomy/short course of radiation -- last summer and part of the fall and started getting back into shorter (2-4 miles) runs in April. I do 2-3 sessions a week with weights and resistance w/ a trainer at my gym and yoga 2-3x a week, too (yes, I'm kinda fitness obsessed but I was before my adventure w/ breast cancer, too :).

    I've been trying to run at least 3x a week for the past month because I'm training for a 24-hour relay race in September but it's been a slog. My first "decent" run was a 5K today and my pace was a minute and a halfslower than a year ago. And I was breathing hard the last 1/4 mile. I can't tell if this is because I'm out of running shape or residual issues from radiation (which I had on my left breast) or maybe Tamoxifen (I've been on it 8 mos., side effects seem better -- but I've gained weight!).

    Anyway, if any of you've had trouble getting back into running, would love to hear your thoughts and cheer each other on.


  • Rseman
    Rseman Member Posts: 281
    edited July 2015

    watersup, I don't have any advice for your situation but are you doing the Ragnar Adirondacks in Sept

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited July 2015

    welcome watersup. I had no radiation or tamoxifen, just scorched-earth surgery, and I also had difficulty regaining my previous pace. I attributed it to lingering effects of anaesthesia but that was strictly my own notion - medical people all dismissed my concern. I did not have shortness of breath exactly, because I would just slow my pace to accommodate my heart and lungs - but my pace was about a minute/km slower than it had been. Those who said it was deconditioning are full of it, because I had only just started running and had got up to that pace - you don't decondition in so much less time than that. It's been quite a while since my DIEP now, and my pace is getting back. It's just a patience game, I think. I figure, there will be time to be faster - this is the time to just enjoy doing it.

    Looking forward to reading your runs.

  • Oncearunneralwaysarunner
    Oncearunneralwaysarunner Member Posts: 252
    edited July 2015

    meljo614 - I've added your races. I can only speak for myself but I'm not offended because you are doing the Race for the Cure. Your reasons for running the race are what matter in my mind, not the fact that it's one organization over another that's putting it on.

    Welcome watersup1! I've had a bit of a hard time getting back into running after treatment. As you can see from below, I had the kit and caboodle. I tried to keep running during chemo but a two month long chest cold kinda made it hard to breath so I walked instead. I picked it back up after surgery by increasing my distance gradually and ran during radiation. I had my whole right side radiated for 25 treatments and then had the boost through brachytherapy. I was slower than before, I ran a 4:35 marathon three days before finding my lump, but I was feeling good about my runs and I was starting to see improvements. Then I started tamoxifen... I had some of the usual side effects of mood issues and hot flashes along with some anxiety. On top of that my runs started to suffer. My pace got much slower and it felt like I was putting in so much more effort than right before I started the tamoxifen. With my MO's ok I stopped tamoxifen and within a few weeks my runs started to go back to what they were before I started taking it.

    I am slower still than before this whole thing started but I also gained 25-30 lbs during treatment. I've lost all of it except for maybe 5lbs but I do know that extra weight will naturally slow you down. I guess it's hard to say what could be causing the slow down in your case but between surgery and the effects experienced by Goldlining, the effects I've experienced with tamoxifen and just going through treatment, I think it could be any of those. We all react so differently to medication but I hope that my experience can help you identify what is going on with your runs.

    I should head out for my run before it gets too stinking hot :) my run yesterday consisted of running to the pick your own berries farm that's about 2k from my house and running back home after picking up strawberries and raspberries. The Chariot was full of berry baskets and a very happy four year old who gorged on berries on the way home!

  • Karz72
    Karz72 Member Posts: 160
    edited July 2015

    My legs are seriously stiff after this past weekend! Just haven't made the time to run lately & being in the mountains with my family - including super-fit endurance & trail runner sister - I had to put my running shoes on. Managed about 3km - easy run downhill but I'm sure the hill was about a 45 degree climb so lots of walking on the return :-)

    Despite that, running is my favourite proof of life!

    Have planned a 3 week overseas holiday in August so actually need to sit down & plot a training schedule for my race in September.

    happy running everyone!


  • lovestorun
    lovestorun Member Posts: 167
    edited July 2015

    Welcome  watersup1 and congrats on the one year mark! I had radiation on my left side.  It's been a little over two years now. I do remember it taking a while to build my endurance back up but I did get there and you will too! 

    One thing I did that worked well for me - and I can't speak for everyone - was to build in some weekly runs where I left the Garmin at home or where I ran for total time (say 20 or  30 min.) not distance.  Diagnosis through treatment can do a number on your psyche, and that in turn can impact your running aside from all of the physical stuff  The months immediately following treatment can be particularly challenging for some (they were for me), and that too can take a toll. 

    My pace is slower than what it was before diagnosis and treatment, but most of that I attribute to natural decline / aging  (I took up distance running about 8 years ago). I had one magical PR in the half during the first year after radiation, but my times have slowed down since then.  Adjusting my expectations has been difficult, but it's also helped me learn to enjoy running in other ways.  

    If you are concerned, consider talking to your med. onc. or your radiation onc. at your next follow up. 

    FWIW - I do have issues with tightness in a muscle that runs along my left chest wall (I forget what its called but it's under your armpit) that is related to radiation, and have gone to PT for that.  Keep up the yoga and the stretching and cross training!  Try to be patient with yourself.  You've been through one heck of a year. 

     

    So nice to see everyone's runs and progress reports! Happy summer to all. 


     

  • Rseman
    Rseman Member Posts: 281
    edited July 2015

    Whoo Hoo, I finally made it to a summer series run last night! A 5k and I averaged 8:55 min mile for it. I was happy. It was humid and hilly so that is a good pace for me.

    I have a runner's vent. I know that this may sound snobbish to some but there are some things I cannot stand about the summer series runs!! There are about 2,000 runners. There are pace makers for people to line up according to their ability. No one does this!!! And then with the narrow trails you get stuck in a bottle neck. When the person realizes that they can't keep up in that group and are usually running on the left it isn't a good idea for them to then just stop. On the left.

    Or how about hand signals when passing someone so that the person behind you knows you are moving over?

    I'm not trying to win these races. Sometimes I feel like I am in a video game dodging drunk runners who get points for taking other people out.

    On a more positive note, if there is anyone else on this board who gets Falsodex treatments, I learned today that my running roller stick also works good for massaging the injection site!!! And I can't believe it has taken me 6 years to figure out that running shorts with the underwear already in the shorts is the best thing ever.

    Next Monday I have a 4k. I didn't even know those types of races existed. I am going to try to do it as a sprint and set my Garmin for a 7:59 pace. I'll practice beforehand to see if that is actually reasonable. And then I am going to line up at the 5 minute mile pace maker and go for it.

    Renee

  • Karz72
    Karz72 Member Posts: 160
    edited July 2015

    That's a great pace Renee! I'm plodding along at 11 mins per mile so a long way to go.

    Laughing at your vent :-) As much as I love running for the wonderful & friendly people runners generally are, there are always frustrations in a crowd. We don't have pace setters for the short distance races, so have to dodge whoever is in front of us. My worst is the speed walkers - they always seem to walk at least 4 abreast! And their elbows are dangerous when you try to dodge around them :-)


  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited July 2015

    Indeed! Our Run for the Cure has the 1K walk and 5K run finish in the same bottleneck and the last 500m you're dodging not only rambling pedestrians but herds accompanying Granny and her walker, double-wide baby strollers, and dogs on leashes (shin-high tripwires) that are NOT kept to heel. I gave up on timing that one because the bottleneck is so pathetic. There are no marshalls or anyone trying to facilitate the run.

    As much as I lovelovelove the Disney runs, it irks me that some of the charity participants seem to get placed in unjustifiably advantageous corrals. I work hard for the corral I get and I'd like to be more forward too, because the peer pressure helps me keep a better pace. But I realize my corral-mates have similar paces. However, I find myself passing many participants in the first two miles that are already walking, that are not wearing shoes or clothes made for running, and usually walking four abreast as well. Spending the first 30 minutes of the run playing Frogger with people that have no intention of actually running is a physical obstacle i don't need. And I agree - how hard is it to raise a hand or point in the direction of the curb you plan to glide toward to walk, or point to the water table you're going to reach for? I guess one of the by-products of broader participation is that some people won't have the experience to know the etiquette, or the consideration to read the race handouts that list the etiquette. I figure the reason it aggravates me so much is that I'm not winning anything so I need all the help I can get.

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