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  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    Cats--I get morbid, too. Especially when I start reading everyone's tag line and see a first diagnosis similar to mine then a second one that says stage 4 with mets. But I tell myself that the whole reason I'm putting myself through this is to lower that chance of recurrence. Chemo was an option for me but I didn't like the 12-15% chance that would come back without chemo.

    I'm a week past #2 so I'm half way there and the worst SE's are behind me for this round. I actually felt kind of normal today except for acid reflux induced laryngitis but as long as I don't talk, I can pretend that alright

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited June 2015


    CatsRus, I was up way past midnight too and up at 5:00! We can do this. I am dreading this next week. It sounds like you have been able to avoid the bone pain. Good, because it is painful. I am going to start the Clariton today instead of waiting until tomorrow when I get "The shot!" We have to be positive and tell ourselves that this is working and we will get rid of every teeny weeny possible Cancer cell and live to be very old women! I get a daily inspiration saying and today's says. "Once you replace negative thoughts with positive thoughts, positive things will happen." We need to remember this! Good luck today! Yes, I hope to sleep tonight too!

  • Tifree40
    Tifree40 Member Posts: 13
    edited June 2015

    imageMangolia I hope you start to feel better today. it's was your last one, congrats on that! Here's to you feeling better real soon. I am sitting right now receiving #3. I cried all the way here but I'm ok now. After today one more to go. I talked to my doctor today because I have been on my cycle for over a month now. He is calling my OBGYN to schedule an ablation. That destroys the lining of your uterus to slow or stop bleeding. That should like so much fun. But at this point I will do anything to stop this blood flow. Sorry if I'm too graphic today. Everyone today try to take your mind to your happy place.

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited June 2015

    Yeah! now I get to say '1 to go'. No problems with the infusion but my mouth is really dry already. I don't think I drank as much water during the infusion this time, I was just too tired to be bothered. Though I did have a fair amount of ice chips. I'll try and make up for it now.


    Mysunshine, I got up at 1:15 am, went back to bed just after 3. Looked at the clock at something passed 4, but at 5 I think I was asleep... Alarm went off at 7:45 am, first time in a long while an alarm has actually woken me up, usually I have turned it off beforehand. I have avoided bone pain thankfully, I hope yours is easier this time.


    Tifree, hope you are feeling better soon. One thing I don't miss is periods! Mine stopped long before BC though. Good luck.
  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    good luck to everyone in the chair today! Hang in there. At least we know what to expect and are prepared to deal with the SE's when they come.

    Tiffree--not too graphic at all. And I don't blame you for wanting it to stop. It can't be good for your immune system not to mention blood loss causing anemia--we're already exhausted from the chemo and you don't need that added on top. Hugs. You've got this

  • Magnolia83
    Magnolia83 Member Posts: 99
    edited June 2015

    Thanks for the words of support, ladies! I'm feeling a tiny bit better today...looking forward to the weekend!

    Good luck to all the gals in the chair today...crossing one off the books is a good thing! Brings us closer to the finish line :)

    Tifree hope you get some relief from the menstrual issues. I am still getting periods too and they like to come with a vengeance...I am starting to think chemopause is a myth (joke of course!)

    I start Taxol in July and am a bit nervous about my nails. Anyone have any products they can recommend to keep nails in good shape? I am so hard on my hands! At the LGFB class all they said was don't do fake nails and don't cut cuticles. I am wondering if I need a good cuticle cream for the dry cuticles, and if nail polish or strengthener is a good idea? I have heard the dark nail polish stories (the dark polish keeps UV light out which is supposed to protect the nails more) but has anyone had any experience trying it? After 4 AC cycles my nails are holding up well but I feel a little soreness so I want to do what I can in preparation for Taxol!

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited June 2015

    magnolia, glad you are feeling a little better. One lady told today told me that the Taxol was a piece of cake after the AC, so I hope the same hold true for you. My MO told me to use nail hardener, I use Sally Hanson, and they give me iced mitts to wear during the Taxotere infusion. A couple of the chemo nurses have asked me if I am using nail hardener and have said 'good' when I responded that I was.

  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Member Posts: 458
    edited June 2015

    For the nails I am using the cold mitts and booties. (Elasto-gel) My infusion nurses say the cold wristlets work well too. If you don't want to shell out the cash I would use frozen peas, or ice packs. Be sure to protect your skin with wash cloth or towel or socks. I apply mine 15 minutes prior to start of Taxotere and change out after 45 min and keep them on 15 minutrs after infusion stops. My cuticles look horrible, when I can remember I use Burts Bee cuticle balm but if you have a wax lip balm like chapstick it should do the same thing and there is always good ole coconut oil. I agree with Catsrus a nail hardener would be good and keep the nails trimmed short.

    Happy positive thoughts to those of you having spa day. May your side effects be few!

    TiFree sorry about the constant flow. No fun. I went through a 50 day cycle from before Thanksgiving to 6th of Jan. Had d&c end of feb then another bout of spotting til April 22nd when I had LHX and LMX. so I can relate. Hugs and prayers to you and your OB/GYN to get it resolved.

    The only s/e with my Herceptin is a headache which tylenol takes the edge off.

  • JenJenJen
    JenJenJen Member Posts: 39
    edited June 2015

    Just finished my last AC yesterday! Woohoo! Now onto paclitaxel and Herceptin in July. Thanks for the tips on the nails. My nails now are a bit discolored already and slightly sore as well. I have also heard from my MO that putting dark nail polish helps just to cover it up.

    Magnolia, glad that you're feeling slightly better today. Good job on finishing your last AC!!!

    Tifree, hope you feel better and hope your menstrual issues resolve soon.

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    I'm on taxotere which is supposed to do a number on the nails. I've been taking vitafusion gummies for hair and nail and doubling the dose with one in the morning and another at night. I'm only a week past TC#2 but I've had zero changes in my nails other than they're growing at a slightly slower rate. I've still got peach fuzz on my head and about 10 chin hairs that are holding strong...

  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Member Posts: 458
    edited June 2015

    Marlana, no changes in nails here either. I call myself kiwi head. I go for #3 on Wed 7-1 so about a week ahead of you. Experiencing some foloculitis but the phisohex (chg) wash along with some cleocin gel has that back under control. I tried on a new wig that has wefting and may have reacted to it, alon with all the record hi temps is not a good combo.

    Biotin will be good for the hair and nails.

  • Magnolia83
    Magnolia83 Member Posts: 99
    edited June 2015

    JenJenJen, yay for finishing AC!!! It truly is an accomplishment

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited June 2015

    Titree- I'm sorry you cried all day before your treatment, but I know exactly how you feel. I'm sick of it all already. But! We will get thru this. I'm still having my cycle, but I haven't had a heavy flow since starting chemo. In fact, I should be having it now, but I just have a very heavy snotty discharge. I feel like my body is full of air. I'm tired. My mouth is dry. My lip is cracked. And, I'm getting a muga tomorrow (to check to make sure my heart can withstand #4, I guess. Anyway, you look GREAT! And, soon this will all be a memory.

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited June 2015


    Nail Concerns......This is what I do and so far, so good. First, my nails are painted a dark pink. I think they just have to have polish. Toenails too. I put on Tea a Tree oli every morning and night. Rub it around cuticles. For chemo treatments, I take my big fuzzy slippers and put little ice packs - little round ones that you would put in a child's lunch box - in the toe area. Tight but doable. I bought the little round ones on Amazon. I take a small cooler and put ice from my freezer in it. I put the tips of my fingers in the ice during the medicine drip time, not during the anti-nausea time. No problems so far. One more to go. Hope this helps.

  • helplesslyhoping
    helplesslyhoping Member Posts: 39
    edited June 2015

    It's been a while since I've posted, mostly because I'm so tired all the time...having five kids doesn't help! Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else was having hyperpigmentation issues from AC. I have what look like liver spots all over my face and torso (I'm quite fair skinned but have a lot of freckles normally). I'm hoping that they go away eventually. I am at my halfway point next week, #4, awwww yisss!



  • JenJenJen
    JenJenJen Member Posts: 39
    edited June 2015

    Hi helplesslyhoping. I have brown spots all over my fingers and my fingernails are discolored and slightly sore. My MO said it's due to the chemo. Hopefully it will go away after chemo ends.

    Thanks for the nail tips too Mysunshine! Does tea tree oil act as a moisturizer for the cuticles?

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited June 2015

    I might try the tea tree oil too... I usually just use vitamin E. I used that on the red bumps on my head too when I first shaved it, it's been fine since. So far no discolouration of my nails. I've used vitamin E for a long time on and around my nails as I have a bad habit of picking the skin around my nails. I've tried to stop, especially while doing chemo but seem to be failing, it's a stress thing that I've done since I was a child. I'm doing better but haven't stopped completely..sigh...
  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited June 2015

    Hopelesslyhoping- Yes, me too. I've noticed them around the hairline on my forehead, and I am hoping they go away. I go for #4 on Wednesday, and I'll be halfway done. Yea!! I had a muga test today. I was scared not knowing what to expect, but all went well, and the guy taking the pictures, and monitoring my heart told me that I got a 65, and I should stop worrying (my heartbeat was up) so much (he wasn't supposed to tell me). I don't know the rest of the results, but that made me feel much better.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited June 2015

    Tea tree is antibiotic and anti-fungal.

  • karabesque
    karabesque Member Posts: 84
    edited June 2015

    helplessly- I have little "freckles" too. They just popped up over the last few weeks. I have had hyperpigmentation for a while now but big splotches not these little spots. I have some hydroquinine (sp?) that a friend gave me specifically for hyperigmentation. I hope it works!


    AC IS DONE!!!!!! YAY! Just a week of feeling crappy and then I get an extra week and off to Taxol. I may be nearing my half way mark barring all goes well.

    What a long, strange trip it's been

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    Cats--I do the same thing! My first time in the chair, I was so nervous I picked a couple until I bled. A week later, I got an infection in one and then got bronchitis a couple of days after that so I'm really trying to be very careful and not pick!

  • JenJenJen
    JenJenJen Member Posts: 39
    edited June 2015

    Yay! Doesn't it feel great to get this "Red Devil" drug out of the way Karabesque and Magnolia!

    Ladies keep up the good work and be strong! We will get through this! Wishing minimal side effects for all!

    Have a great weekend girls!

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    Holy Hot Flashes, Batman! I think I've just hit chemopause! They've been coming on for the last 24 hours and if standing in my backyard at 2 am in 59 degrees, sweating a stream isn't a hot flash then I don't know what else it could be.


  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited June 2015

    Hello all, I had 3rd T/C on Thursday and I am soooooo tired. The bone pain has not set in yet, so hoping it will not be as bad........we will see in the next couple of days. But, I have no energy. I tried to do some exerxcises and am just wiped out. Anyone else overtired?

  • helplesslyhoping
    helplesslyhoping Member Posts: 39
    edited June 2015

    mysunshine- yes! All the time! I used to run miles every week, and now I get winded going up the stairs. I rest a lot...not naps, but just resting in a chair or I read a book with my legs up. It stinks because I'm not used to it. Hopefully it passes for us asap once chemo is over!

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited June 2015

    Me too! I am used to being so active and right now, I cannot do much of anything. I read to just go with it and take care of my body, but, I agree it is difficult to just sit and rest. I do push myself myself to cook a little and move as much as possible. I sure hope my energy comes back after chemo!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited June 2015

    Wanted to chime in with a few thoughts -

    rosesrx - you asked about disability being automatic for a cancer diagnosis.  There are several types that are usually employer based - either/both short term disability, long term disability and FMLA.  There is also SSDI, which is federal disability linked to Social Security.  SSI is a different thing, also linked to Social Security, but is income based assistance.  Usually short term disability runs concurrently with FMLA, if it is available to you, and if there is no short term disability you may go directly to long term disability, which can also run concurrently with FMLA, but the FMLA runs out after 12 weeks.  SSDI is usually an automatic acceptance only for a stage IV cancer diagnosis.  It is very difficult to get for a lesser stage cancer diagnosis unless you are permanently disabled, and your docs will verify this.  SSDI is not meant for short term situations - it is for those who will not usually return to work.

    For taxane chemo and nails this is what I did: On the day of infusion (or night before since I had a long day at my center) I painted with dark, opaque, polish - navy or dark gray.  This is so that light cannot penetrate the nail bed.  The next day I removed that polish and painted a coat of clear nail hardener on.  I did that every day for the next seven days.  Then I removed it and started over.  The clear hardener was in a kit given to me on the first day of chemo and sponsored by Sanofi Aventis, maker of Taxotere - this seemed to be an indication that I should use it.  On the day of infusion I brought 4 bags of frozen peas in a cooler and an insulated Tervis Tumbler of ice chips.  I put a bag of peas on the front of each foot shortly before they started the Taxotere, and kept the other two on a towel in my lap.  I dug my fingernails in to the two bags of peas on my lap like a claw, but periodically removed my right hand to pick up my cup and get a mouthful of ice chips.  Taxotere is known to cause nail lifting and loss - I did all of this to prevent that.  I had no lines, dark spots, or ridges.  This SE can be permanent and/or long lasting.  Adriamycin does not seem to have nail issues, other than darkening and sensitivity, as a particular SE.  None of this was suggested by my MO, I asked if I could ice based on reading on BCO, and I did not really run the nail polish thing past him, I just did it.  I did not use Tea Tree oil because it is estrogenic and I didn't want my skin to absorb it - I used Aquaphor or cocoa butter on my feet, hands and cuticles, lips, up my nose and a few other spots :)  A number of people use organic coconut oil and find it very moisturizing.  I slept with cotton socks and gloves on also after slathering on the moisturizer.

    Melasma (dark skin pigmentation) is common during chemo and usually goes away with time.

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited June 2015

    Mysunshine... I'm tired too. Fatigue seems to be setting in earlier with each treatment (TC#3 last Thursday for me too). I've just woken up from a 4 hour nap but I still think I'll be in bed early tonight ! Otherwise though, I don't feel bad at all. I went out with DH and friends for breakfast this morning, but my appetite isn't great. Last week I ate like a horse!!

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited June 2015

    I am tired all the time....it seems to be taking longer to bounce back each time. Hopefully tomorrow I will be up to taking DD to the movie. As far as cooking, it is hard to cook and eat with limited sense of taste

  • Magnolia83
    Magnolia83 Member Posts: 99
    edited June 2015

    SpecialK, great tips! Definitely need to get my nail arsenal together! Many years ago I lost all the toenails on my right foot in a car accident and it was a pain, literally and figuratively...they grew back fine though.

    I am so with you girls on the fatigue! I get winded walking up to my 2nd story condo...and if I have groceries to bring up? You better believe there is huffing and puffing involved! It does make me think twice about buying anything heavy at the store though...that's probably saving me money :)

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