Chemo in June 2015

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  • magbrew
    magbrew Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2015

    Hi Everyone,

    I have been diagnosed with Stage 2 Breast Cancer and starting Chemo therapy of T & C tomorrow morning.

    I'm scared and frighten, and looking for any positive information that you are will to share with me.

    I had a Radical Left Mastectomy on April 9, now Chemo.

  • tamkay123
    tamkay123 Member Posts: 56
    edited June 2015

    Hi Magbrew-

    Glad you found this board post for support.

    I'm on a different therapy,A/C&T, but I had my first treatment on June 15th and I've really been feeling good thus far.

    The treatment itself really wasn't bad at all. There was always a nurse available if I had any questions or issues. They were really great about explaining everything.

    For myself, it's really helped to not focus on the possible side effects and really just focus on taking each day as it comes. I read the tips post and bought some things based on it but otherwise I've tried not to worry about it until something happens.

    I've really focused on drinking a lot of water. I was always a big water drinker at work but I've made sure to do this at home and while out as well. I've also made a point of keeping active by walking at least a mile or so every night. Thus far I've felt good so I've actually done more than that. I'm really hoping my doctor will say I can go back to the gym as I really miss it but I'm still in that 2 week no gym time period after my port placement.

    Hope everything goes well for you. This group is great for encouragement and support.

    Tammy

  • gargengirl09
    gargengirl09 Member Posts: 46
    edited June 2015

    Tamkay123. Glad you are feeling so well! I hope I will too!


  • Scarlett152
    Scarlett152 Member Posts: 175
    edited June 2015

    magbrew - I'm popping in from the May forum. I had my third TC last week. While there are definitely side effects, there's lots of info on this board on how to manage them. Best tips are lots of water before and after, stay on a schedule with Zofran even if u don't think you need it, take Claratin if you are getting Neulasta, rinse with salt water and baking soda or Biotene, and get a bit of exercise every day. Evenwalking around the block helps! You can do this!

  • gargengirl09
    gargengirl09 Member Posts: 46
    edited June 2015

    What does Claritin do in regards to having the Neulasta injection?

    Thanks in advance! I'm new ;-)

  • tamkay123
    tamkay123 Member Posts: 56
    edited June 2015

    Claritin has been found to help combat the bone pain that can sometimes be a side effect of the Nuelasta. I took it the day before, day of and day following my injection. I didn't have any issues with my first treatment.

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited June 2015


    I second what Scarlete said. Do all of it! I have T/C #3 tomorrow. Not looking forward to days 3 - 7! But do all of the things listed. I will will be drinking 100 oz. of water tomorrow and as much as I can in the next week. It does help get the toxic stuff and all those dead Cancer cells out......if there are any. Yes, take the Zofram BUT it causes constipation, so I will be taking Peri- Colase on days 2 and 4. Strange, but then diarrhea sets in for me - toward the second week. I also wipe my bottom with baby wipes after toilet paper. Stay very clean as the same bacteria is there, as in your mouth. Yucky, but true. You can get sores there too. I know, things you don't want to hear, but better to be prepared. Start taking Clatiton, not Clariton D, the day after treatment. I take it in the mornings for 10'days. It helps bone pain......I guess it does. I still get some bone pain but am thinking that the Clariton helps. The Neulasta shot makes your bone marrow go crazy building up your white blood cells, which you want, but this overstimuation does cause bone pain. It does go away and my blood counts have been good when I go in for blood tests one week after treatment and beyond. Eat small meals every two hours. Use the salt and did a mouth swish every time you use the bathroom. I keep all that stuff by the sink.....glass and spoon to mix. It has worked! Not kidding, this is not fun, but rest, go with it and remember why you are doing this! Be thankful there are medicines to get rid of any stray cells. You can do this! Ask any questions you have!


  • gargengirl09
    gargengirl09 Member Posts: 46
    edited June 2015

    Thank you tamkay123! I appreciate it!


  • mircann
    mircann Member Posts: 45
    edited June 2015

    Hi all,

    Good timing I jumped on here and you all are talking about Neulasta......as on Monday I got my most recent bloodwork done and my neutrophils hit an all time low (below normal and this has never happened) and I am only on chemo #2 (or getting ready for it)...Im at .9 neutrophil count and waiting for my oncologist to call me..and he hasnt called me yet..so I left a msg for the oncology casemgr. How serious is this when the neutrophils drop this low? are you all talking about Clariton the over the counter allergy med to take? weird that would help with bone pain...but hell I  will take whatever to get rid of side effects...


     

  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited June 2015

    Hello and welcome mircann! Hopefully you'll get a call from your oncologist soon. They do my labs and I see the oncologist on the same day so she knows what my counts are before I leave the office. Also, yes it's OTC Clariton that does the job from what I understand. I currently take daily Zyrtec (Costco brand) and my MO told me that it would do the same thing but I haven't had to have the Neulesta shot yet.

    Going in for bloodwork this morning - does everyone else do that weekly? I'm on day 14 of the first cycle of AC and my hair is still here but seems "different" and I noticed a lot of strays coming out in my hands when I showered last night and when I fixed it this morning. I'm overdue for a trim so it doesn't look great anyway but I'm thinking why get a trim now when it's probably going to come out soon anyway. I am thinking of doing something with it this weekend though. Either a very short pixie or just buzz it.

  • shelly4321
    shelly4321 Member Posts: 16
    edited June 2015

    magbrew. I am on TC as well I am 14 days out from my first infusion and let me tell you it hasn't been bad at all. I have felt pretty dang normal except for on day 9 I developed a "mild" case of strep throat and had a fever of 100.5 ( my onc didn't give me nulasta for some reason!) and so I freaked out and went to the er. They gave me the Zithromax z pack and in 3 days I was back to normal except I had some mouth sores. Now at day 14 those have pretty much gone away so I am back to feeling completely normal. Hope you have the same good luck I have had ( except the strep throat

  • Espanola
    Espanola Member Posts: 32
    edited June 2015

    Hello, I start my first AC today. I'm scared that my very bruised port that was put in 6 days ago will hurt. I have lidocaine but the thought of a needle being inserted gives me the most anxiety.

  • tamkay123
    tamkay123 Member Posts: 56
    edited June 2015


    justmaximom15 - I get my bloodwork done each time I go in for a treatment so bi-weekly. I'm on day 11 of the first cycle of AC and I've noticed my hair feels different as well. It seems a lot more dry. I've already got a wig that is very similar to my current hair. I'm trying to decide as well what I ask for at the hairdresser. I think I plan to transition straight to the wig so it's not so noticeable at work to some people with which I haven't shared my diagnosis. I'm not totally freaked out about losing my hair but it might be less traumatic to go really short but not buzzed and then let it fall out from there. Thoughts? I noticed you are in Missouri. Where are you located? I'm originally from STL but now I live at the Lake of the Ozarks. I'm receiving my treatment at Ellis Fischel in Columbia which isn't too bad of a drive.

  • ThePrincess
    ThePrincess Member Posts: 424
    edited June 2015

    Ladies - if you think the hair maybe hard for you to handle, call your stylist - I would get the last appointment of the day so there is no one around? Also, some may come to your house? My mom is a stylist and she's had patients come in during the busy times then lose it because it was so hard and then be upset because the salon was busy and so many people were there? Also, some will come to your house - my mom has done this also many times for her customers.

    Good luck, you can do this, once it comes off you'll feel better!

  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited June 2015

    Espanola, I had my first AC when my port was a week old and other than the fact that my port is rather deep and they had to use a longer needle it wasn't that bad at all and I didn't even have the numbing cream yet. Best of luck to you for an easy time!

    tamkay123, I have treatment every 3 weeks and so far they've had me come in weekly for blood draws but that might be because she isn't giving me the Neulesta shot and she's just watching me closely. As for my location, I am in the St. Louis area about 20 miles south of downtown though. I'm going to SSM St. Clare and I love it.

  • tamkay123
    tamkay123 Member Posts: 56
    edited June 2015

    Espanola - I had my first treatment 4 days after port placement. I didn't have any pain associated with the port.

    ThePrincess - I agree about doing it when there aren't people around. I think the place I may go is willing to do before or after hours. My neighbor is a hairdresser. I know she would be willing to do it but not sure I want that. I think I may want someone who is more removed since she is a good friend.

    justmaximom15 - I'm from Kirkwood. My family still lives there. I'm surprised my mom hasn't tried to kidnap me to have treatment there but I do love Ellis Fischel. No way I was getting treatment here at the lake. I wondered where you were getting treatment as I remembered that awesome picture of the outside area/

  • Hoptimistic
    Hoptimistic Member Posts: 9
    edited June 2015

    I am starting TC tomorrow - I was diagnosed in March and had a right mastectomy in April. My Oncotype score came back a 23 and my Oncologist recommended Tamoxifen and Lupron injections (to shut down my ovaries... I'm 46) but a second doctor recommended the Mammaprint test. That took FOREVER to get done (because MSK won't do it), but it did come back high risk, so here I am - 12 weeks out of surgery today, starting chemo tomorrow. Any advice? I read drink a lot of water today and tomorrow? Maybe chew on ice chips during the chemo? Painted my nails and toenails. Getting a "Mylie Cyrus" buzz cut today (after 25+ years of very long hair). (I LOVE eaglemom's mohawk!) We have concert tickets for tomorrow night - any chance you guys think I will be able to go? I got the tickets months ago. I appreciate any thoughts!! Thanks so much!

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited June 2015

    Espanola, deep breaths in and out when they put the needle in. You can do this!

  • Charlotte57
    Charlotte57 Member Posts: 35
    edited June 2015

    Just started cheomo yesterday. Adriamycin/cytoxen. Was already fatigued from other health problems & sure not feeling any better today. Because of the pre-meds the doctor said yesterday I would feel the best I had and would hit chemo drain around day 3-5. Since no improvement I worry about days 3-5! Yikes! I know I can do this but boooooo

  • Cheesequake
    Cheesequake Member Posts: 264
    edited June 2015

    Wow. Yesterday I had my port put in. I think I have more soreness than I did with the lumpectomy and SNB! It's manageable with a bit of cannabis oil for the pain and I think I'll try to go to work tomorrow, but... wow.

    They did internal stitches and DermaBond on the outside - both incisions look pretty angry, but so far I think it's going as well as can be expected. If I move really slowly I have essentially full range of motion. I don't think it's pressing on any nerves (something I saw mentioned by folks elsewhere here). It's kind of achy all the way from the chest incision up to the neck incision, across the port and the catheter up to the jugular. How long until the pain goes away?

    Chemo starts next Tuesday. My husband REALLY does not want me to do it. Earlier this week he texted me a picture of someone's chemo-burned hand, as well as a link to a specific embalmer's fluid that is used for deceased people who have had extensive chemotherapy, because they're more likely to have clotted or congealed blood. He's really hoping he can get me to turn down chemo. I don't have any answers as to why I'm doing it that will satisfy him.

  • TheyCallMeCommodorable
    TheyCallMeCommodorable Member Posts: 38
    edited June 2015

    HOptimistic - it is likely you will be able to go to the concert. I had my first TC one week ago today. I was pretty tired from all the Benadryl they pumped through me, but otherwise the first couple of days were a breeze. My MO has me scheduled for a Neulasta shot after each treatment. It turns out that is what has caused me the worst side effects, not the chemo.

    I took the Claritin as recommended, but it didn't work for me. Sunday and Monday my legs really ached, especially over night. By Tuesday I had such severe back pain that I was using Lamaze breathing techniques to get thru the spasms. They put me on Tramadol and that coupled with Extra Strength Tylenol for 24 hours got me back to normal. I've consistently run a fever, but they are attributing that to the Neulasta too. Anyway, although the Neulasta SEs are lousy, I'm a testament that it works. At my worst on Tuesday my WBC count was 4.2. By today, it was high at 18.9. All that pain was my bone marrow on a workout.

    My NP says the worst is behind me. Hope so! I'm struggling with my optimism! I don't want to be a Debbie Downer with my friends and colleagues, yet I'm also realizing that this pillar of strength that I'm evoking isn't really letting them know that I could use a pick me up! I feel like I shouldn't ask someone to bring me a meal, you'd think they would already think that would be helpful! So, what am I doing? I'm making a big pot of Chicken and Wild Rice Soup for a friend with inoperable brain cancer tonight. I've had to sit out on my porch while it simmers, because the smell isn't doing it for me right now. So, I guess, rather than feeling sorry for myself, I'm doing something for some one else and that makes me feel good! Problem solved

  • TheyCallMeCommodorable
    TheyCallMeCommodorable Member Posts: 38
    edited June 2015

    oh Cheesequake. Tell him you are doing it so you will still be his wife 40 years from now. He needs to talk with your MO and not be reading quack medicine on the Internet. YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING!

  • Hoptimistic
    Hoptimistic Member Posts: 9
    edited June 2015

    TheyCallMeCommodorable Thanks for your experience - I hope I do get to go! What exactly is the Neulasta for? It seems like that is a lot of the bad side effects, but my Doctor didn't mention it. Does everyone get it if they have TC?

    I'm sure it's hard to stay optimistic but helping other people helps! You also have to understand that women are wired to anticipate need, but many men (and children, some women) are just not wired that way. When I take care of my husband I get everything he needs before he knows he needs it! When he takes care of me, I have to ask. It sucks to ask (especially when no one ever has to ask me!), but people who love you really do want to help. It makes them feel better, just like you are feeling better helping someone else. I was told not to take that away from people. Even when you're used to doing everything yourself, to allow others to help you is actually something you can do for them in a strange way. That's been hard for me, but I have really learned to let go and it's better for everyone!

    ThePrincess

    You gave very good advice on the salon! I had my hair cut short today (not the final buzz, but it was very long, so I figured two cuts would get me used to it) and I just did it in the salon because I was not upset about it. If I had been, it probably would have been bad! There were several odd stares and one woman looked at the pile of hair on the floor and said "I want that hair!" clearly implying that I was foolish to cut it off. I looked at her with a smile and said "If you want it, I'm sure someone will sweep it up for you!" I think her stylist gave her the down and low and she said how great it looked after, but people are so thoughtless! Even if I had just done it because I wanted to... why butt in?

    Anyway, my girlfriend is going to come over and do the final buzz and I'll have a few friends over and we'll watch a fun movie because laughter is the best medicine!





  • Scarlett152
    Scarlett152 Member Posts: 175
    edited June 2015

    hoptimistic - see my post above to magbrew re starting TC. I noticed our dx are almost identical. I am also doing ovarian suppression with Zoladex and will start an AI after I finish chemo July 9th. Feel free to private message me with any questions! I'd go to the concert if u feel up to it!

  • kh04
    kh04 Member Posts: 18
    edited June 2015

    Espanola: I had my port put in on JUn 2and started chemo on june 3 which is the very next day. I did not feel anything(maybe because the soreness of the port covered the chemo needle pain?) I had my 2nd chemo yesterday and do feel a little pinch and thats it. Just look away. Suggest you put some numbering cream(nurse recommended a quarter sized cream to apply and cover it with some plastic bag/food wrapping paper). I think I just applied a pea sized cream and trying to rubbing them into my skin so I guess it didnt work! Next time I will put a chunk.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited June 2015

    I had the port in on a Monday and used for chemo on that Thursday with no problem.

    Tip for the EMLA cream: put a quarter-sized glob on the raised port area and a little beyond, then cover the area with Press 'n' Seal. It sticks to your skin well to protect your clothes and hold the cream to your port.

  • Espanola
    Espanola Member Posts: 32
    edited June 2015

    Hi everyone, thanks for the support. You I were right, using the port this morning was relatively easy. Since I don't know how to show my chemo at the bottom ... I started AC dense dose today. I'm feeling very nauseous and have taken all 3 prescriptions they gave me and now I'm nauseous with a headache. Any suggestions?

    ThanksThanks!

  • Tikitorch
    Tikitorch Member Posts: 6
    edited June 2015

    hi all! I had my second AC yesterday and am feeling good today. I did the big chop - 18 inches off - on Tuesday. The stylist and salon were so kind and supportive, and I was able to donate my hair to wigs for kids. My hair is coming out in earnest now. My scalp feels like I had a long ponytail in, sore to the touch but not unbearable.

    I also got my port placed Monday, still sore/swollen.

    I had nasty side effects from the Decadron (3 hours of sleep, acne) during my first AC, so my doc is willing to try this cycle without it. Keeping my fingers crossed that nausea remains at bay, so far so good.

    Keep strong, ladies! We can do this.

  • Cowgirl13
    Cowgirl13 Member Posts: 1,936
    edited June 2015

    Espanola, I would call your oncologist's office tomorrow morning and let them know that you still have nausea. I'm sure there is something else they can do to help you. And please don't feel bad about calling them.

    Hope you start feeling better and congratulations on completing your first chemo.

    Liz

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited June 2015

    does the Decadron cause acne? My face looks like it did when I was 12 and couldn't figure out why. They are upping my Decadron today because of the allergic reaction I had last time. Ergh. I'm going from 6 to 20mg. Phooey.

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