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  • lovlilynne
    lovlilynne Member Posts: 405
    edited June 2015

    Hi ladies - I'm feeling better, thanks for thinking of me. I've had a very busy 2-3 days. My daughter is a type-1 diabetic, and she got an insulin pump. We had to go for training on Friday. After ibu and some rest, i sucked it up and went. My SIL and niece came to stay with us on Friday night until around noon on Saturday. They are on their way to Maine for vacation. Then we had to go back to DD's endocrinologist. Celebrated father's day last night by making lobster rolls. Whew!

    Sheila, all my instructions stressed that results would not be available for 7-10 days - I assumed business days. I had friends start asking me if I had heard by day 5, and they were more annoyed that I was. I looked at it as a time where I could be blissfully unaware. I'm not saying you should feel this way, lol. In my case, it worked, because unfortunately my call came and the results were not favorable, so I had that time just to heal and hope for the best. I wish you peace until you get your results, and continued peace from your results.

    I have received no advice about food at all, except MO said to eat "soft" things after chemo. So, I have not been careful at all - I forget what I'm supposed to do or not do. Strawberries are in season here, so have been eating a lot of them - wash them, of course, but didn't even cross my mind that it was something to be careful about.

    Jen, my thumb nail feels like I hit it with a hammer. I had already lost a toenail on AC - it's formed this weird scab/nail covering. My figertips are so sensitive, they feel a little like I burned them, and I still have pins/needles feeling.

    woodburns, welcome to the group. I'm so sorry to hear of your multiple experiences with cancer - that is no shit sandwich, more like a shit foot long sub. I wish you success with your treatments.

    ksusan - so cool on the hair! I hope mine grows that quickly. It was only recently that it dawned on me that, after the chemo, after the radiation, that I'd still be dealing with a wig for another ~4-6 months - that was a totally depressing thought.

    As I mentioned, I started feeling better yesterday - I still feel the tingling in my feet and hands, and I have these random bone aches - like shin splint feeling, but in my foot, or knee, or shoulder. So weird - I feel it, then it goes away, like a mini explosion at the spot, then back again. I especially feel it when I'm laying in bed. Friday was a real set back, though, I had it in my head that I'd be feeling better by then, and to wake up feeling so crappy was depressing. At least now I know what to expect when I am on vacation after my next treatment.

    It's rainy and cooler here today. I'm going to start organizing for packing.

    Lynne



  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited June 2015

    Littleblue, the only other thing I've ever burned was my GRE study book, bit I'm pretty sure I'm going to burn the port info wallet card!

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited June 2015

    ksusan, I'm making a bonfire pile already! Chemo t shirts, hospital socks, bandages, the port if they will give it to me, maybe even the quilt on my bed and my underpants and pajamas! I'd burn my wigs, but they are pretty nice and so will get donated back to the hospital. Oh yeah, let's not forget my post surgical 70$ tank top complete with drain pockets and pockets for foobs, and just that touch of lace around the neck that says" still foxy". Barf. And my old lingerie from when I had a set of "d"s. And the post surgical puffs that go with the aforementioned 70$ tank top. What even are those? Not boobs, that's for sure! Yrrrrf, Taxol 2 is kicking my ass today.I'm sweating tree sap and thinking of things to burn!

    Glad you are feeling a bit better Lynne!

    So, on a steroid high yesterday I went shopping for new office clothes for my boobs free torso. Not sure if it was a good idea, since clearly I don't want to keep anything associated with cancer, but the steroids made me do it! Don't know if any of you lovley ladies are forgoing recon, but if so, the styles right now seem to flatter the boobless. I found a lot of drapey layered tops with high necklines that look pretty good. Most of them are sleeveless, which I'm not sure of, but I think I can layer a tissue weight long sleeve shirt under, or a cardigan over. I even got a couple of snuggish ones in busy patterns...figure everyone knows I had my boobs off, and no one cares. Trying to force myself to accept the body I have now. We shall see...

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited June 2015

    Anybody who cares should mind their own business. I got a few new work tops, focusing on inexpensive short-sleeved shirts (alone or under) and loose, drape-y wraps, jackets, scarfy-things, since I don't know what tamoxifen will do to my weight. Summer teaching is more casual here, so my Crazy Shirt men's pima cotton tee shirts are fine (and very comfortable on my still-sore chest skin). I'm going to get a men's UPF swim shirt and some bitchin' men's board shorts instead of a women's suit or women's skimpy-cut swim shirt and shorts. I normally wore men's swim trunks and a tank top anyway. I'm not doing competitive laps, after all, and the shirt can do double duty as a UPF tee shirt during radiation.

    BMX and no reconstruction here. My chest above the incision stands out farther than the area below it, lending a slightly-breast-like look anyway. My prescription for the foob-bra 'n' foobs will be in hand this week; I'll get them in case I have a blouse that looks crummy without it, but it seems silly to me at the moment. I'm not very femme (my current eyebrow pencil is my first cosmetic other than a little base over zits since I was 12), and I've always hated bras. Despite having been a 38C or higher, I've never needed a highly-constructed bra and never worn an underwire. The pencil test never held a pencil. I did order a pair of Knitted Knockers to see if they'll work with comfy bras I already have, but I ordered Bs, not Cs.

    Other than it being a little strange not to have nipples, I'm very satisfied with the look of the surgery and how the incisions are healing and flattening. My wife's bi and doesn't care, and I don't care, and once I get the port out and it doesn't hurt to do crunches and twists to tighten my abs up again, I am so there.

    After radiation, I'll sort out what can be cleaned and donated, what can be kept and used if needed for something else (like the bed pad for diarrhea or wet wounds). And burn the port info, of course. We made a donation in her honor to the cancer center my MO works for, and will make one to the clinic that funds mammograms for poor women in honor of my surgeon after the port's out. Probably one in honor of my RO as well, assuming she is as competent as she seems.

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited June 2015

    swim stuff...ugh. it's funny I always dressed like a groddy little boy before this lol..hoodies carhartts and vintage pearl snap shirts for field work, tight vintage tees for office. Now for swim...what brands do you like for sun protection ksusan? I usually wear board shorts and a long sleeve rash guard rather than a women's suit anyway..no reason to tempt melanoma..

  • allicat1214
    allicat1214 Member Posts: 84
    edited June 2015

    Hi everyone: I've been away from the group for several days. I'm trying to go back and catch up, but its reassuring to read updates from all of you in our group.

    I'm now 10 days post final chemo. Toes are sore around toenails. Feel like I'm going to lose both pinky toenails. The nails are a little discolored and I go barefoot in summer around the house and am a klutz and hit them. (sigh)

    Anyway, I broke out with a rash yesterday but not sure if it's chemo related or not. I ate few things I hadn't in a while, like bread Friday night and it could be related to that.

    And my big news: on day 7 post chemo I travelled two hours to host a post engagement party for my son. (that's why I ate different foods). I was so glad to have been up to making the trip but I was pretty wiped out afterwards. The wedding will be in March 2016 and I hope I have some hair growth by then.... anyway, it certainly gives me something to look forward to after chemo and radiation! There IS life after cancer!

    Hope all of you are having minimal side effects this week!!

    Oh and I'm bummed that I don't get my port out until August 28!!! The doc only removes ports ONE day a month, the last Friday of the month and July was already booked. And there were only 4 appointments left for August! But anyway, at least I have a scheduled appointment!

    Take care!

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited June 2015

    Liitleblue: No recs from me--I'm still at the "looking at reviews on Amazon" stage. What have you liked?

    Allicat, congratulations on your son's engagement! I have to wear slippers in the house in order not to bash my toes. Bummer about your surgeon. Do you want to wait, or see if someone else in the practice has earlier openings?

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited June 2015

    Allicat I second the congrats!

    Ksusan, I have been wearing Patagonia just because we have an outlet nearby, but I confess I haven't done a whole lot of research..I have a long sleeve hooded rash guard that is Mountain hardware that I really like too, but I don't think they make them any more.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited June 2015

    Thanks, littleblue.

    #14: I am grateful for berries right off the bush.

  • gkodad
    gkodad Member Posts: 188
    edited June 2015

    My oncology nurse says no raw fruits and vegetables "while neutropenic" and just wash everything thoroughly otherwise.  No salad buffets, sushi or buffets in general because so many people handle food in preparation and serving and customers in line are pretty careless with handling.  I've been neutropenic 2 out of 4 times on A/C so really missed the salads.  Right now I'm eating them every day.

    No recon here and much of the time I just don't wear anything under my shirts.  If people notice, I don't care...but generally, people are much less observant than you think.     I have a front and back closure "mastectomy bra" with pockets on both sides which I sometimes wear, based on clothing.  It's very comfortable and weight balance isn't a consideration, so a little fiberfill works just fine to even things out, since my ribs stick out farther than my incisions.   I may buy lightweight microbead foobs from the TLC site if I get tired of the fiberfill.   Lands End has mastectomy bathing suits very inexpensively with a little higher neck and arm.   I don't buy "clingy" shirts any more, not so much because of look but because they seem to cling to my incisions in an uncomfortable way.  I've got some extra skin on the sides, so for the moment, I go sleeveless only under another shirt with sleeves. 

    Personally, no boobs works well for me...they were heavy and made my back hurt.  And the thought of more surgery makes me feel sick. 

  • gkodad
    gkodad Member Posts: 188
    edited June 2015

    Lands End also had rash guards and swim tees at a pretty affordable price for people who swim daily.

  • Stephmoen
    Stephmoen Member Posts: 563
    edited June 2015

    sheshe how frustrating fingers crossed for pcr!!! How is gingerchi doing hoping out if the hospital and well..does anybody have any advise for breast reconstruction I'm starting to focus more on that now that my chemo will be finishing up little nervous about the next step but sooooooo ready to get rid of these boobs!

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited June 2015

    Gingerchi. Are you still in the hospital? How is the cellulitis? Thinking of you and hoping the infection clears up soon!

    gkodad, I know several people who had no reconstruction, and honestly do not notice until they point it out.

    ksusan, After trying for 4 years to grow blueberries, we finally have success, and I picked a bowlful yesterday and they were soooooooooo good.

    Allicat, Congrats on the engagement! It's nice to have events like that to look forward to, and distract us from our current events. That's crazy that the surgeon only takes out ports once per month. I have never heard of something like that. Obviously that surgeon has never had a port.

    Littleblue, I have a bonfire pile too! I keep things like shirts as a reminder of the support, but the extra unused Tamoxifen that didn't work for me...that will go in first...anxious to see what color it burns. I've got a few other things in my pile too.

    Lynne, I hope you continue to feel better.

    Princess, I have not heard of that juice. Is it good??

    Dizzparkmom, I hope AC #4 goes well. So glad you'll be done with that now.

    Addie, So glad you are feeling so good after Taxol #1. Hoping #2-12 go equally as well!

    Positive spirit, It's nice that you have 2 MOs that communicate. It shows they care more about you than their egos...and that is key!

    Sheshe, Hope you get results today! And I hope you get good news!

    So which chemosabes head to the chemo bar this week? I am there on Tuesday. I usually go early in the morning, but I switched to the afternoon this week to go when my friend goes. I've known her for several years and our daughters are good friends. She had a little abdominal pain in March, went to the doctor thinking she had a gallstone; they did an ultrasound and told her to call her husband...cancer all over her liver and spots on her lungs. How life can change in an instant. Her biopsy a few days later showed neuroendocrine tumors. She has chemo every 3 weeks. She was supposed to have 6 rounds. This is 6 of 6. They just told her that they may now do 7 or 8 rounds. I can't imagine how that is weighing on her. At any rate, we'll hang out together there. It's nice to see a familiar face there.


  • ThePrincess
    ThePrincess Member Posts: 424
    edited June 2015

    KBeee - the suja juice is really good! Green delight is tasty and full of green things that are good for you - the berry is awesome and the Sweet beets drink is way better than you'd think (and it has tumeric in it!) - I get it at Giant or Harris Teeter but have heard they have it at target too - just watch the expiration dates - since they are organic they run fast and sometimes the stores have them past their date, or the date is too soon for me to be able to drink them all!

    I head for Taxol #2 tomorrow - anyone get a true rash? I have a rash on my face (not like a sunburn) like an itchy rash pattern? I also got herceptin and perjeta last week so I don't know what caused it?

    Good luck ladies getting meds today! One more down! I hope Ginger is doing well and is out of the hospital? Also A New Beginning as been absent? Hope she's ok too???

  • Rpayton
    Rpayton Member Posts: 235
    edited June 2015

    Kbeee sorry to hear about your friend. Gosh very tough situation. What great support to have you by her side. Good luck tomorrow. Thinking and praying for you.

    I think I took my leave from work at just the right time. After #4 Fri feeling so disoriented, foggy, exhausted and nauseated today. I know I would not have been able to work. I know this will pass and it is expected to feel worse. So I think I'll just allow myself a lazy day to watch the thunderstorms here in Northern IL and just be lazy.

    Hope everyone is holding up and finding a positive ray of hope today.

    Renee

  • gingeel
    gingeel Member Posts: 102
    edited June 2015

    Caught up after being 3 pages behind!

    Gingerchi, hope you are well, and on your way out of the hospital!

    Man, when the bone/ body pain from Taxol #1 hit, boy, did it hit hard. I think Lynne, had described it as tiny explosions. That is exactly what I've been feeling. The pain moves from your finger to your back then your elbow, etc. I even had a lot of abdomen pain.....like in my ovaries or something. I've been taking Aleve and Claritan, but, need something stronger to sleep. Day#7 post chemo, and I feel pretty good. Still got some aches here and there. My appetite is back! My MO also didn't mention a thing about avoiding raw fruits and veggies, but, during AC, I wasn't eating much of that anyway. My BS recommends radiation...which I will begin in September.

    Sheshe I hope you get those results today. Waiting is the worst.

    Karen, I feel flabby as hell, too. I'm thinner, but flabbier. ugh. Need to do some weight training or something.

    KBee, sorry for your friend. It breaks my heart to hear what ppl have to go through.

  • lovlilynne
    lovlilynne Member Posts: 405
    edited June 2015

    Gingee - I had forgotten about the abdomen pain - I had that too, almost like my uterus cramping.

    Today I am better, but the numbness. My hands are a little better, but the bottom of my feet feel as if I have callouses on the bottom - the skin around my toes feels stretched as if I had swelling in them. I hope this goes away before next treatment. Sore throat is back - on both sides. Ibu seems to help that.

    I called RO to make consult appointment with her - I had put it off because no rush, but now we are looking at the end of July because of vacations, etc. I am waiting for a call back.

    No one has mentioned if/when/how I'll get port removed. I assume I'll have to have it done the same way it went in, which was with the interventional radiology department. Since I had that heart episode when putting it in, I'm not looking forward to having it removed. Does anyone know if they cut you open in the same place? I assume so, but just checking.

    KB, good luck with Chemo tomorrow, is this 4 or 5? I have lost count.

    gkodad, hope you are enjoying your time off between treatments.

    Renee, I know exactly how you feel - after #4, I worked just to transition, but I knew I had made the right decision because it was so much worse. Now, even with 1 taxol, it has solidified my decision - no way I could have been 100%.

    Lynne

  • sunshine100
    sunshine100 Member Posts: 11
    edited June 2015

    Hello everyone, this only my second post. Please help if you can. I finished AC 2 weeks ago and I am suppose to start 12 Taxol on Friday. But about a week ago I started having vibrating/tingly feelings in both legs and feet. It is constant but more noticeable when sitting or lying down. I don't know if this is restless leg or neuropathy. Does anyone have this? It is driving me crazy. I am scared to start Taxol with this symptom already. Also scared about allergic reaction possibility with Taxol. Please help. I am feeling overwhelmed. Not sleeping well with tingly/vibrating feet/legs. Thank you.

  • Rpayton
    Rpayton Member Posts: 235
    edited June 2015

    Lynne so sorry to hear the sore throat pain still there. Yikes! I do believe the port is cut out same place was my understanding so as not to make more scars. I will have mine for awhile yet as I still have to get thru a year of herceptin. Sending healing vibes your way and thinking of you.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited June 2015

    sunshine, be sure to let your MO know about the neuropathy so they can monitor you closely for it. Allergic reactions can happen with Taxol, but most people do just fine. I have found my first 4 Taxol easy. Side effects are just mild, annoying ones. I feel good.

    Lynne, I hope the numbness eases.

    Gingers, hope the pain improves.

    rpayton, glad the work time off is working out.

    Princess, I will look for that juice

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited June 2015

    Oh, my God, Kbeee, I'm so sorry to hear about your friend! Praying for her! Hope your side effects continue to be minimal, and those blueberries continue to be delicious...I can't wait for blueberry season up here. Last year my Mom picked 35 lbs. at a U-pick farm..

    Princess, I get a taxol rash on my forearms and hands, mostly the first and second knuckle. Also, my face swells up and gets flushed, but I think that may be the 'roids..I get it the day after infusion, and it last for a few days. Benedryl helps.

    Rpayton, radical self care sometimes means laying on the couch. Its such a hard concept for me to grasp, but it is what it is, and its what our poor war torn bodies need now! Good for you for taking care of yourself now!

    Gingeel, I hear you on the Taxol pain. Are you doing dose dense? I feel like I got run over by about 10 horses...and it seems to settle in old injuries and piss them off again..but whatever, anything is better than AC!

    Lynne, my feet have been bugging me with blisters and pain all through this. Have you tried toe socks? They keep your toes separated and seem to help with the raw feeling. Injiji makes good ones..they are all I can wear now. I can't stand to wear regular shoes with socks at all, my feet just tear themselves up. On taxol, I also have the raw throat. Steroids on infusion day help for like 24 hrs, then its back, along with post nasal drip, body pain, and mucous membrane swelling like ears and nose. Basically, the flu without fever. But I get hot flashes, which are awesome!!!!!!!!

    Ginger, You still hanging in there lady?

    Sheshe, want us to go hold a sit-in at your path lab? I will totally come and park myself bald and boobless on someones desk if it will help! Praying for good results!

    Sunshine100, you gotta call your MO about your symptoms. As everyone here will tell you, they are there to help, and its also their job. Don't let it go, you don't need any stress in your life right now! As far as Taxol goes, the first few days after infusion it feels like my legs have a hard time completingmuscle movements, if that makes sense. It goes away the further out I get. Sometimes I get random pains and smashed feelings in my fingers, and my finger and toe nails are turning black. Please call your MO today! We are all hear for ya!


    Well, I think I brought on the post Taxol steroid crash a few days early by going for a jog the day after infusion. Don't know if that's good or bad, but I sure felt like crap yesterday! Body pain, sore throat, emotional...the usual. Little better today, which is good, because I had my first eval by a Physical Therapist. She measured me for lymphedema and is recommending sleeves and gauntlets prophetically, since I have cording and pain already. She also gave me some exercises to start doing, hopefully get me in shape before radiation starts. She said it might have to do with the amount of blood and swelling I had during my post-surgical bleedout, rather than the surgery itself. Apparently my scars look really good. So, I seriously recommend to you ladies who have not visited a lymphedema specialist PT, give it a try. Its going to help recovery so much! And now, I am having weird emotions surrounding the end of chemo and starting this next phase. I feel like there is going to be a lot of fear and readjustment, when my body isn't feeling so sick. Kinda weird...the better I feel physically, the worse I feel emotionally. Its scary too, because my MO told me he is currently treating 11 women in their 20s and 30s for breast cancer here..

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited June 2015

    My PT just said I have lymphedema under my arm (where I've been swollen since surgery), though on Friday she said I didn't. When I asked her to clarify, she said it might be edema or lymphedema. I'm annoyed by her sloppiness and worried since it's the radiation side. I guess I'll find out.

    My wife's off buying a flat of local organic raspberries to make sugar-free preserves today while I go try on swim tops. But first, one of the cats needs to see the vet, and he weighs 20#, so I'll let my wife carry him in :)



  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited June 2015

    Littleblue, I hear you on the pain being where you had old injuries! It's like a bad trip through a time tunnel of old injuries; I get to revisit them all...even ones I'd long since forgotten about! Luckily my pains do not last too long; the pain was much worse on Taxotere. The time after chemo is more stressful than the time during chemo. It is nice to stay in touch afterwards because we all do "get it".

    ksusam. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Raspberries!

    Bloody noses. Every day. That's the latest from my chemo grab bag. Annoying, but not life altering Thankfully, they are hold a tissue on your nose for a few minutes bloody noses and not cover you shirt in blood bloody noses. Annoying, but managable.

  • sunshine100
    sunshine100 Member Posts: 11
    edited June 2015

    thank you everyone. I did speak to my mo about the tingling/vibration in legs and feet. My mo is not very helpful and just said we don't usually see that with AC. I think she thinks it is in my head. I am seeing neurology.

    I am nervous about starting Taxol. Everyone said it is easier than AC(which was really hard)but it seems like many of you are having a hard time with it. How did you decide between 4 cycles or 12?

    Thanks in advance. Hope you are having better days.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited June 2015

    Sunshine, if your MO is not taking you seriously, consider a second opinion. This is someone who needs to take you seriously. I have found Taxol to be much, much easier than AC. There are side effects, but for me, they are mild and manageable. I feel good

  • gkodad
    gkodad Member Posts: 188
    edited June 2015

    Lynne - thanks for asking.  I'm loving the extra time.  I'm feeling good today, which usually means just a couple of days until chemo.  But I'm off until July 2, which just sounds wonderful. 

    Lymphodema vs swelling...I have a seroma that is still resolving, so it goes up and down.  Seromas are very common with mx, so you might want to check to see if that might be an issue.

    I hope everyone has a decent week and things go pretty well for you. 

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited June 2015

    Thanks, gkodad. Not a seroma--my surgeon sees it as surgical swelling with healing slowed by chemo. I'll ask what he thinks again when I see him next week. Meanwhile, I'll be working on moving the fluid with manual drainage.

  • DizzParkMom
    DizzParkMom Member Posts: 316
    edited June 2015

    A/C #4 is DONE!!! Infusion nurse didn't instill confidence. Pharmacy delivered Chem meds in push form. I told him I always get drip, not push. I even showed him my first card that listed the drug names and times and he still reluctantly looked up my prior infusions. Of course he found that they are supposed to be drip...not push. So they had to be take back to pharmacy and there was a 45 delay between premeds and Adriamycin. Then, he told me Cytoxan would run for half an hour, but it's always been over an hour before...I whipped out the card and again, he looked it up and changed it. When it came timw to go, his process for removing the picc line and applying the pressure bandage was totally different than with chemo 1-3. He was really polite, but it just made things feel anxious than it needed to be.

    I had the chance to get the neulasta auto-inject this time, but decided not to....since the video they have you watch tell you not to travel/drive/operate machinery for 1 hour before auto-inject and until 2 hours after. Also said it beeps while it pumps the med out and you have to monitor it closely for 45 minutes...so at the auto-inject time, I would be 35,000 feet in the air flying home...beeping, wearing a tight seat belt just under the device, and continually lifting my shirt up to check out that it's flashing the right color.....doesn't seem like a good idea. So we'll do the regular shot this time and do the auto injection on tax/carb #1 when the flight timing works out.

    So happy to be halfway done! Heather


  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited June 2015

    Congrats on 50%! (And for advocating for yourself.)

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited June 2015

    Sorry to double-post. Just pulled this off my phone. UV-protectant men's swim top and women's swim bottom from Big 5:

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