Starting Chemo May 2015

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  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited June 2015

    I reacted to the Estée Lauder and Mary Kay...I usually use Bobbi Brown or Clinique. They had lots of scent...I should have known better. If that is the worst of it, I am good.

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    tjh -- that sounds so good!

    klanders--having suspected celiac disease that I'm supposed to be tested for once my bc treatment is done makes it easy for me to skip the empty carbs other than ice cream. Normally, I don't eat a lot of ice cream but with the chemo mouth, it is one of the few things that I can stand to eat right now! For the last week, I've been pretty much living off of corn tortilla chips with salsa and ice cream.

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited June 2015


    Maybe not so good...it tasted great but I needed nausea meds all night and today have the runs....definitely bad stomach. I want to be normal again

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited June 2015

    imageI got a new wig!! Klanders- I'm dreading #3 on Wednesday, because I feel so fatigued. With round #2 I didn't get outta bed for 6 days. When I did regain some energy I mowed the yard, and cleaned the house good. I felt great this past weekend, and am feeling good today. I saw the Oncologist yesterday, and he said my blood count is beautiful, and he asked me how I felt. I answered, "I feel great-- just in time for you to knock me back down!" He laughed. I didn't. LOL

    I'm sorry about your nail. I was paranoid, after reading how I might loose my nails, (about my toenails) because I've always picked them. In fact, I didn't have any ever that I can remember!! When I was a teenager I'd bite them. Anyway, I decided to not touch them in hopes I wouldn't have problems with them with chemo. For the first time in YEARS they look beautiful. Well, compared to how they looked before. So, I'm hoping to paint them pink soon. Maybe I should wait unit after Wednesday to see if they hang around a little longer.

    (TJH) I too have been having night sweats, but I would have them occasionaly before chemo. I don't mind them, because I feel like 'GOOD! Let's sweat this crap out!!" I know my tumor was estrogen fed, and I am so close to menopause anyway, and I know that all these toxic waste meds are going to kill my ovaries, so I am prepared, in as far as that's possible, to go thru menopause. I'll deal with it when the time comes. I guess night sweats are part of it.

    Like you Klanders, I could live on patotes, and I love sugar too. However, in the past few years I've been trying to eat healthier. Don't get me wrong- I'm no genuis at it; I'm slow, but I get there. Of course, everytime you think you're doing something right a new report comes out to make you rethink. Like I've been eating lots of chicken and turkey meat these past few years only to recently learn how most chicken we buy is pumped with chemicals/preservatives, and their living conditions are less than desirable (can't be healthy), so now I'm challanged to watch how the chickens were raised, and what they are fed, and to read the ingredigens on lables (the longer the list, the worse it is for us and stay away from preservatives), and I'm trying to buy farm fresh eggs, grass fed butter, water instead of sodas (no sodas), fresh vegetables and fruits (no canned food), and wild caught fish. I cut out breads (LOVE BREAD). I try to eat more protein, but my son insists my beef be grass fed meat, and I'm still trying to understand that one, but that's a whole new level for me and I'm not there yet.

    NOW that I'm having chemo- I'm eating TOAST, CANNED soups, freezer pops (SUGAR), pizza (BREAD), and I ate a whole pint of ice cream (Haggan Daz- coffee) for the first time in over 10 years. Oh! And, I'm guzzling Schwepps Ginger Ale (haven't had a soda in over 10 years either) like crazy, and, etc.. lol epic fail! But, these are the things I can taste. Anyway, it costs a little more to eat healthier foods, but not as much as meds and chemo! I don't know-- I guess after chemo I will try harder to watch what I eat though I don't think we can know, at this point, what the hell has caused the cancer, so it makes it harder to fight back. I started my period early in life. I got pregnant with my first child late in life (I was 28/29). I smoked until July of '98. I enjoy a glass of vino every evening (sugar), and have done that for the past several years (never drank anything before). I lived on potates and bread trying to diet. I couldn't breast feed my first child because I had a severe infection and did not produce milk (my tumor began in my milk duct). So WHO KNOWS. But, we shall get thru this. This too shall pass.

  • Magnolia83
    Magnolia83 Member Posts: 99
    edited June 2015

    tjh, hope you feel better soon!

    Shanann...love the wig! Looks amazing!

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited June 2015

    thank you so much, Magnolia83!! How are YOU feeling?

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    Shanann--looks great!

    Had my blood work done today--my neutrophils went from 7.6 to 9.7 (high is 7.7), monocytes up from 4.1 to 4.4 (3.4 is high)! Obviously up from my bout with bronchitis but at least they're high and not too low. So hopefully no neupogen with round 2 on Thursday.

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited June 2015

    marlanab- Thank YOU!! They give me a copy of my blood work when the results come in. I looked at them. I tried to compare them from week to week. I looked at them some more. I have NO idea what they heck they mean. But, I'm happy for you that they are up if that mean you won't need one more shot. This morning I'm getting ready to head in for #3. Had a 20 oz glass of water, and some scrambled eggs. Say a prayer for me. I'll pray for you Ladies!

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited June 2015

    Shanann, I hope you have a day with no problems. Yes, I will say a prayer for you. I don't like this either.....one more week until my 3rd chemo. However, I try to remain positive and thankful that there are treatments to get rid of these horrible Cancer cells. Be strong

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited June 2015

    Shanan , the nurse administering my chemo explained the blood work report to me, she outlined exactly what they were looking at. She was great

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited June 2015

    I go for round 3 on Monday. I am dreading it but on the other hand it will be great to say I only have to do it 1 more time. Stomach is much better today, ate MUCH lighter yesterday. I have to look up Wendy's menu, we have put of town softball game and that is the healthiest of fast food. I think I will do grilled chicken wrap kids meal or 1/2 strawberry salad with no blue cheese and no sunflower seeds. I have lost about 15 lbs since the BC adventure began which is not all bad since I am a hunky monkey,NOT the diet plan I would recommend

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited June 2015

    thank you, catsRus- I will ask the doctor to go over it with me when I see him next time I see him. TJH- I'm very happy for you that you'll be done soon! I'm sitting in the chair now, and toward the end of June I have to have a Muga scan/test. One more of the Red Devil (July 1st), and I can say I'm done with phase one. Yippie. Then I go 4 rounds of 'T' which, I'm told, side effects are less severe. Hugs to you each!!

  • klanders
    klanders Member Posts: 244
    edited June 2015

    Muscle fatigue has set in. (After 3rd TC.) I feel perfectly healthy (mostly) as long as I'm sitting in bed or at a desk, etc... But if I try to wash the dishes, cook dinner, fold laundry, etc... I last for just a minute or two before I have to sit down again. It's such an odd feeling. My brain thinks I'm fine and strong but my body is rebelling! Not complaining... just making observation on my experience.

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited June 2015

    I know exactly what you mean klanders. After round 1 it seemed to take me about a week to get back to normal'ish, after round 2 it's taken almost 2 weeks - SEs were generally milder but lack of energy and fatigue has definitely lasted longer. Resting in between doing anything, however, minor has been the name of the game. I have a week until round 3 and I am expecting a progression of the fatigue. It is easier to deal with than nausea, etc., but I agree it is weird when you feel okay to do something, until you actually try doing it!

    Take care all.
  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited June 2015

    Totally understand! Let's just get this done!

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    Shanann--hopefully all went well w/ #3 for you. I'm due for #2 TC Thursday afternoon. Kaiser has a great website for keeping track of blood work and other tests. It even graphs all of the results. But the high WBC is not necessarily good because it indicates that I have an active infection (bronchitis) so I'm hoping that my treatment won't get postponed.

    klanders--other than the first few days post #1, I haven't had too much of a problem with fatigue but I have noticed muscle weakness. I'm normally a moose and can lift pretty heavy stuff but when I lifted my dog's crate up today I could barely lift it and it only weighs around 35lbs.

  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Member Posts: 458
    edited June 2015

    Herceptin went well today. MO said I could be the judge on taking Nsaid (for arthritis) or tylenol he was not worried about the bleeding (nose x1, gums or rectal x1 or increased bruising) the numbers looked fine and any changes were due to chemo. I get more relief from relafen so I am going to continue.

    I am ok as a couch potato,  kudos to those walking and doing those loving movements. Let's hope week 2 allows some ease and energy. The temps inside and out have been steamy. Hair is peach fuzz +. I go around the house bare headed,  wig to work and soft cotton cap at bedtime which usually comes off sometimes during the night. Still have to maintain facade for Mom's sake at nursing home due to dementia. On a humorous note she was telling the staff she had to leave because I was having a baby and she had to be there. 

     

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    Roses--I have the fuzzy head, too but I've been wearing a slouchy beanie cap to work--the wig is too hot and itchy so I've decided that I'll save that for special occasions. Maybe your mom's telling everyone that she had to be with you because she recognizes that something is wrong with you?

  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Member Posts: 458
    edited June 2015

    Marlanab,  I have cut my visits back visiting Mom due to Neutropenia. She probably has a sense that something is amiss. Most times she is in the late 50's to 60's thinking I am one of her sisters. I am grieving her loss of presence and with the help of the staff and a therapist am learning how to cope. It is just a mixed bag of emotions and added stress that 'is what it is' I am so grateful to have these boards to share. 

    I tried to express that to counselor that I felt like I am disappearing by having lost so much or having so much taken away..not just the surgeries,  hair,  but role as a daughter, friends and family distancing themselves.  His initial thought was about altered body image due to the MX and would recon be considered..   I wish it were that simple. I am rambling so off to bed.

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    Roses--at least you recognize that you have a problem and are getting help. As for staying away from the nursing home, I had a bout of antibiotic induced C. diff a few years back and the only place that I can think that I picked up the bacteria was visiting my grandmother when she was in a nursing home for the last 4 years of her life--I read an article that said as many as 75% of residents are carriers.

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited June 2015

    Rosesrx.....dementia is hard. My MIL is 95 and when we see her at her assisted living we never now who we are going to see. She often talks about my DH kids (38, 36,36) finishing kindergarten and how she needs to get up and babysit them. She usually know I am not Mary, DH's ex. Unfortunately we usually have to tell her who our 13 yr old daughter is. That is tougher on the 13 year old DD then MIL.

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited June 2015


    rosesrx, My mom (96) passed away this year, right before my diagnosis. She had Dementia and Imunderstand the difficulty you are facing. After dealing with this for several years, my sister and Imlesrned to just go along with anything she said. Agree. Sometimes difficult, but she truly believed what she said, or was not in her own world. At one point, she had a baby and wanted to know who was taking care of him. So, I said I was. That made her happy. Hang in there.

  • Magnolia83
    Magnolia83 Member Posts: 99
    edited June 2015

    About to hit the chair for AC #4....FINAL AC!!!

    Good luck to any of you ladies also infusing today! And a great, low SE day to the rest of you

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited June 2015

    I too lost my mom (95) right before my diagnosis. Actually I had to postpone the mammogram that started it all from January to late February as I was in England where she lived and died (I'm in Canada). She spent her last two years in a nursing home after breaking her pelvis. We were lucky in that she always knew who we were, even though she saw me very infrequently but her short term memory was practically non-existent... If you walked out of her sight, then back in, she was surprised to see you again. She would happily look at the same half a dozen old photos over and over again, talking about whatever event it was and telling the same stories each time. Towards the end, the old memories were fading, but she still knew her family. Sadly I didn't make it to England to see her one more time before she passed, she died in the morning as I was flying out in the afternoon. I miss her and know she would have been by my side through all this if she could.


  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited June 2015

    Jealous...but 1/2 done ...Be well, stay strong

  • Gina4h
    Gina4h Member Posts: 98
    edited June 2015

    Scarlett, I had similar symptoms a couple of weeks ago and the oncologist hospitalized me for 7 days. I was very week and after the first day my white cell count dropped to 2. I was on oxygen for 3-4 days and too week and antivirals, antibiotics and IV for 7 days. I am allergic to anti-inflammatories, so iced cloths are the only method of keeping my fever down perhaps that is why I was admitted, but I really think you need to follow up with your medical oncologist, fevers can be deadly when you are on chemo.

  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Member Posts: 458
    edited June 2015

    Thank you all for your kind words and sharing memories about your Moms.  I am at a loss for words. She is in a triple room with all of them on breathing treatments or had pneumonia in the past month. I have had MRSA in the past but no cdiff. I am super diligent with the handwashing and not touching. 

    On the chemo front much less bone aching today so days 4-7 are the worst post TCH. I think kiwi is a better description of my hair status than peach fuzz. 

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    Finished TC #2 about 2 hours ago. I didn't have the immediate headache between my eyes but I feel like my brain has gone swimming. No neupogen this round because my neutrophils were so high so that's a plus.

  • Scarlett152
    Scarlett152 Member Posts: 175
    edited June 2015

    TC #3 is in the books! Fever gone and blood work looked good, so we went ahead with it. And no reaction to Taxotere this time, so all and all a good day. Super tired though. Looking forward the 4th and final on July 9th!!

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited June 2015

    glad to hear Scarlett152.... nearly done! I'm one week behind you and can't wait to be done!

    Stay well and take care.

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