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mugadoon
mugadoon Member Posts: 4
edited June 2015 in Just Diagnosed

Hello. I am a 41 year old mother of two, diagnosed today with Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, 2.3cm, grade 3, not yet staged. Needless to say I'm a little emotional, overwhelmed, and scared. I have some options as to where to go for treatment. I live in a very rural community in Florida, and the closest cancer centers are University of Florida Shands Hospital in Gainesville and Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa. The drive to Tampa is a little bit further away, but I'm willing to go an extra 15 minutes if the care is better. I don't know how to go about choosing the best place. I have all my records and I am ready to call someone on Monday to schedule an evaluation, but don't know what exactly I should be looking for to find the best provider. Thanks for any advice.

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  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited June 2015

    Hi Mugadoon,

    We're so sorry to hear of your diagnosis, and that you have to join us here, but really glad you found our incredible Community!

    This piece of info from the main Breastcancer.org site may help:

    Target your search within the National Cancer Institute (NCI)-designated cancer centers. The NCI, part of the federal government's National Institutes of Health, has recognized 68 cancer centers nationwide for "scientific excellence and the capability to integrate a diversity of research approaches to focus on the problem of cancer." Most of these centers treat people with cancer, although some focus only on research. Breast cancer experts at these centers are likely to be up-to-date on the latest diagnostic techniques and treatment options. In addition to searching online, you can call the NCI's Cancer Information Service at 1-800-4-CANCER or consult with an information specialist through LiveHelp.

    We hope this helps! Please let us know how you make out.

    --The Mods

  • lintrollerderby
    lintrollerderby Member Posts: 483
    edited June 2015

    Hi and welcome. I'm so sorry that you have reason to be here, but very glad you found us. I know this is a scary time. I saw your post and wanted to reply. I'm not sure where you're located. I was born and raised in Ocala (Marion County), but I now live in Denver, Colorado. We still lived in Ocala when I was diagnosed and I went to Moffitt. I can not say enough wonderful things about that place. My surgical oncologist, Dr. John Kiluk, was and still remains the single best doctor I've ever had for any reason anywhere. I had the excisional biopsy, which came back positive, at Munroe (MRMC) in Ocala--the same hospital where I was born 34 years before. I had my daughter at Shands and I'm also a graduate of UF, so I have a lot of love for the place; however, Moffitt is the only NCI-designated Comprehensive Cancer Center in the state of Florida. They called and got my tumor slides sent to their lab ahead of my first appointment. And they saw me really quickly.

    It will all feel a little better once you have a treatment plan worked out. This beginning time is excrutiating.

    All the best

  • mugadoon
    mugadoon Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2015

    Thanks for responding. I'm a hop, skip, and a jump from Ocala in Citrus Springs. I went to Radiology Associates of Ocala for my Mammogram, Ultrasounds, and Core Biopsy, and my samples were sent to MRMC. Small world, isn't it? Living in Citrus County is lousy for medical care, because there is maybe one specialist I would go to for any kind of treatment here. I'm used to travelling to see Doctors, so I wouldn't mind going to Moffitt. (I'm a USF grad myself, and I remember when Moffitt was a tiny little building!) What is the benefit to the NCI-designated center status? I am so new to this, I don't know what any of this means. My oldest daughter is Autistic, and all of her specialists are at UF. The problem I have always had with them is the amount of time it takes to get in to see someone there. Having said that, I have never needed the Cancer Center (until now) so I would hope they expedite these kinds of referrals. I am still toying with both places. And I could very well go and talk to doctors at both places before pursuing a course of treatment.

    If I read your history correctly, it looks like you did lumpectomy first and then ended up doing mastectomy. Did you do that after the genetic testing came back positive for BRCA1?


    Thanks again, and best wishes to you!

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited June 2015

    I'm next to Clearwater, have always had Moffitt as a plan B. A friend near Coco comes across state to Tampa for treatment. She has been very pleased with it. She says they are prompt and thorough. And being next to U Stay Forever, they are up on all the latest treatments.

    I'd do the drive, haven't heard wonderful about Shands.

  • lbrewer
    lbrewer Member Posts: 766
    edited June 2015

    moffit has a wonderful reputation but people I know have found the shear size of it to be overwhelming. Be prepared to be an advocate for yourself. But anywhere you go today you have to the system can seem overwhelming. I was considering going there myself and they were very responsive to my questions. My insurance would have paid more if I had chosen them as well as paid travel since they are a center of excellence.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited June 2015


    Haven't been to Moffitt, but I hear great things.  They would be my backup plan,, and I live in Gainesville.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited June 2015
  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited June 2015


    Hi, Spooks!!

     

    Mugadoon:  I don't want to give the wrong impression. Shands is a great place,, as you know since your daughter comes here. But if you are basically halfway in between the two places, my vote would be for Moffitt.  My PCP actually wanted me to go there for a 2nd opinion, but I was OK with my ONC here, but if I ever needed them, I would drive.

  • lintrollerderby
    lintrollerderby Member Posts: 483
    edited June 2015

    Hi Mugadoon,


    I'm sorry I couldn't get back with you yesterday. I understand about sorta feeling isolated in Citrus County with regard to access to specialized medical care. Fortunately, you do have excellent options very close to you, though. Although I graduated from UF, I was a student at USF for 2 semesters to take some classes that UF didn't offer. I loved the campus and the school, and when I later wound up there at Moffitt, I felt very comfortable. It's amazing how much Moffitt has grown!


    I understand your feeling of not knowing what you need to know in order to make decisions about your care. There's so much to learn about treatment in general, plus there are quite a number of different variables that make up a particular woman's breast cancer. No two are exactly the same and many of us on these boards (myself included) never realized there were so many types of breast cancer or nuances that make each case so specific with regard to treatment, prognosis, etc. As for the importance of the NCI designation--in a nutshell, there are 3 different types of research institutions that are linked with the National Cancer Institute. Those are Basic Laboratories, Cancer Centers, and Comprehensive Cancer Centers. Basic Labs don't see patients, but they are involved in important cancer research, much or most of which is directed by the NCI. Cancer Centers are research institutions which also see patients as well as being involved in clinical trials, etc. from the NCI. Comprehensive Cancer Centers are the top of the three levels (this is what Moffitt's designation is), and perform the same functions as both of the others, but also must include translational care and general as well as specific patient and population outreach efforts.


    Of course you will find many wonderful and knowledgeable physicians at local, community, and non-NCI-designated facilities; however, it's been my experience that the great majority of your MOs (medical oncologists) who have subspecialties are at NCI-designated facilities. This is because those are research focused institutions with greater patient populations from which to draw patients who match the physician's research and clinical interests. Very often, we as breast cancer patients, find ourselves in a small minority of a particular type of breast cancer, or some other quirk that is just better served by someone who not only is an MO who ONLY treats breast cancer, but may within that diagnosis, treat almost exclusively the patients that have that same unique diagnosis. I can't stress how important this can be for many of us. Using myself as an example: I was diagnosed in Ocala. My surgeon, who was classified as a "breast specialist" tried to discourage me for almost a month from getting a biopsy; he just didn't see the need. The first radiologist, at Advanced Imaging on 17th Street, classified me as a BIRADS 3, which is "probably benign" and told me to come back in 6 months. This radiologist also described my lump as a "breast nodule" and when I asked for clarification on what that meant, the answer I got (and I'm NOT kidding, this is verbatim) was, "it's a nodule in the breast." Only after I became a bit of a pain in the ass to the surgeon, did he agree to send me to get another radiologist's opinion. This time at Radiology Associates of Ocala Women's Imaging Center on SE 18th Avenue. His belief was that this radiologist who only does women's imaging would be able to put my mind at ease. I went and this radiologist was fairly confident that I didn't have a malignancy, but since he couldn't be 100% certain, he felt it would behoove me to have a biopsy. He assigned me a BIRADS 4a "low suspicion of malignancy" rating. Fast forward a couple weeks to when I got the results of the biopsy. My surgeon, who had assured us that unofficially he could tell it was a fibroadenoma, but just needed pathology to concur, was almost as shocked as we were by the revelation that not only was it malignant, but highly aggressive. He never once referred to my diagnosis as "Triple Negative" despite it being on the first page of the pathology report. I found that out after I had researched and told my husband of my relief that it wasn't Triple Negative, only to get my records before my Moffitt visit, and reading on the first page: "Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, Triple Negative Breast Cancer". My Ocala surgeon had also set me up with a local MO (who has yet to this day to call me, despite us leaving messages). When we called the MO, his nurse said he had received all of my records and had reviewed them and felt I wouldn't need chemotherapy. Well, if he were any kind of MO worth his weight, he would know that the NCCN treatment guidelines state that the size of my tumor coupled with the hormone receptor-negative/HER2-negative characteristics, indicate that chemotherapy be administered. By going to Moffitt, my case was given to the breast medical oncologist who specializes in breast cancer in the under 40 population. She could recite the treatment guidelines for most breast cancer patients without batting an eye. This is what I mean by going to a center where they specialize in not only cancer, but breast cancer, and then drill down even further to specialize in the unique characteristics of your particular case.


    With your age being 41, you're young to be diagnosed. That's a tough pill to swallow. I was 34, and there are women on these boards in their early 20s. Breast cancer in young women is typically more aggressive and is much more likely to be Triple Negative (which significantly increases chances of a harmful mutation being the cause) or hormone negative, but HER2 positive. Or if it is ER/PR+, HER2-, it's likely to be Luminal B, and thus more aggressive than a similar diagnosis in a post-menopausal woman who is 20 years older.


    Even if you decide to be treated at Shands or in your local community, I strongly suggest you go to Moffitt and get their recommendations and then find a local doctor who is on board with implementing them. As for my personal opinion, I think you should go to Moffitt and continue to be treated there for every appointment. The hospital is large, but very friendly, and the Women's Center is very easy to get to. To me, there's just no contest. Moffitt is experienced in this, leverage their experience. My Ocala surgeon, who is a "breast specialist" does mostly other types of surgeries. By contrast, Dr. Kiluk, my surgeon at Moffitt, has only performed breast cancer related surgeries for about the last 8 or 9 years.


    I'm sorry again to have left you hanging. I'll check back on here tomorrow. I hope you're doing ok. Remember, it does get easier—I know it doesn't seem that way now, but it does. Do you know the hormone receptor and HER2 status of your tumor? What about the grade?


    Best wishes for a peaceful day.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited June 2015

    I vote for getting opinions at both if that is an option. I am for getting as many opinions as one can get.

  • mugadoon
    mugadoon Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2015

    Ok. Whew...


    Well, I went for my initial consultation at Moffitt today, and although I found out I'm going to need chemotherapy AND radiation, I couldn't have been happier with my experience. My tumor is triple negative, and I'm going to need chemo first. Afterwards, they will do surgery, and then I'll have radiation. Neither the ARNP nor the Surgical Oncologist were able to feel any enlargement in the lymph nodes, which goes along with the earlier ultrasound result. So that's a good thing. Next Friday, I will be at Moffitt all day long, because they have me scheduled for ALL of my tests on the same day. To start staging, I'll have a bone scan, CT of chest/abdomen, Ultrasound of lymph nodes exclusively, and a breast MRI. The following week, I will see the medical oncologist to talk about my chemo treatment plan. I must say, unequivocably, that I was impressed beyond measure with EVERYONE I saw at Moffitt today. Just unbelievably smooth from start to finish. I am so very, very happy that I decided to go there instead of Shands. My surgical oncologist, Dr. Khakpour was wonderful. I had the most amazing experience with a woman while sitting waiting to see the Social Worker. She was most obviously a patient, and she came over to me and saw me carrying the breast cancer bag (what they give to new patients), and she said, "I see you have THE bag, did you just get your diagnosis today?" and I said yes... she said, "Don't worry, it gets much better. This could possibly be the best thing that ever happens to you. You will appreciate life so much more, your attitude will change, and you will be a much more positive person." She gave me advice for getting through Chemo and radiation and then gave me some lotion that she uses before radiation. She showed me how it kept her from burning and peeling, revealing her mastectomy scars, which were amazingly small and have healed beautifully. Dr. Khakpour did her surgery, and she had nothing but glowing remarks to make about her. She said that I was definitely in the right place, and wished me well. For going into a Cancer hospital and hearing that I'm going to lose my hair and all that other crap... it coudn't have been handled better all the way around. Very positive experience. I'll let you know more as time goes on! Thanks for your support!


    Oh, btw... I did TRY and schedule with Shands, but I'm not kidding when I tell you they misplaced my medical records... TWICE. After being transferred to three different people and NONE of them could tell me what happened to my records, I said to hell with it... I'm just going to Moffitt. I'm sure the doctors are top notch at Shands, but if you can't even keep track of my medical records, that's just bad.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited June 2015

    Wow! I'm impressed! Sure sounds like they will take good care of you during treatment.

  • speace
    speace Member Posts: 116
    edited June 2015

    Your attitude sounds as positive as can be! Just remember We have cancer, it doesn't have us!!!!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited June 2015


    mugadoon,, so glad you had a good experience at Moffitt! 

  • Sher0402
    Sher0402 Member Posts: 51
    edited June 2015

    hi @spookiesmom,

    I was just diagnosed Thursday. I am in Clearwater. Who was your surgeon?

    (Sorry if this is a duplicate post but I got an error when I tried before and I don't think it posted).

    Thanks!

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited June 2015

    Peter Blumenkranz at Morton Plant. Apparently he is top dog around here. I liked him a lot. He's an adjunct prof at Moffitt too.

  • Sher0402
    Sher0402 Member Posts: 51
    edited June 2015

    thanks. I have an appointment with his partner Dr. Allen next Friday. If I wanted him, I would have had to wait a month. I figure he would not be in practice with her if he did not think she was great

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited June 2015

    So true!!! Have a friend who saw her. Friend was very pleased too.

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