Physically active before dx and annoyed that I still got cancer

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  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited March 2015

    Trvler, I'm 54 (53 at dx). 

    I was always preaching to my son that he should adopt a healthier lifestyle then I get this dx. He joked its because I didn't drink enough beer, lol. Maybe he's right, I would have been less stressed.


  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    I walk, hike, ride my bike, have been doing between 80-100 miles per week for the last three years. And now this breast cancer thing. So frustrating to work so hard, and then have this happen.

    We eat all organic, no pasta, bread, etc. we keep all toxic cleaners out of our house, and use organic hair products. I think our world is just too toxic, and there isn't much more that we can do.

    I worry about my daughter and grand daughters, I hope they will be okay later in life. My poor daughter has started getting all the tests done at 35 because she is now panicked that breast cancer will happen to her. I fit none of the statistics, had a 5% risk, and my closest relative who had breast cancer was a great aunt who lived to be 99

  • scvmom65
    scvmom65 Member Posts: 88
    edited March 2015

    Hi Badatusernames,


    Sorry for your dx :( I think it is normal to try to figure out if it was something your caused, I did that too. I also was super active ( was a physical education teacher) and ate clean but of course I asked myself "was it the cheetos I ate all the time when I was a teenager?" I asked every doctor I was going to what the common factor was, food, chemicals, exercise, makeup, stress, etc and nobody could give me an answer. Komen did a huge study on that and there were just a few things that had risk factors, exercise was actually shown to help. I finally gave up and decided to move forward, make the best choices I can from this day and every day forward to stay healthy with the information I know now. My advice is don't beat yourself up, maybe all the exercise you did before worked and that is why you are alive. Best of luck.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    I will say this. Maybe, just maybe cancer is random. But all that exercise and eating right definitely helps other things like heart disease, blood pressure, diabetes…..And I have to hope that being in fairly good or even excellent health OTHER than the cancer will help us get through the yucky treatments. I hope. :)

  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited March 2015

    I was very active before IBC DX, never smoked anything, an occasional 'adult beverage', never overweight, ate a well balanced diet, no health issues (only time I had ever been in a hospital was with both Sons for complications from 2 C-sectiont.). There is no known cancer on either side of family for at least 4 generations. (1 G-mom and 3 GG moms lived very healthy and active into mid- late 90's and I intend to out live them.)

    I do not run - swore when I got out of the Army I would never run again unless there was some nasty animal behind me or to get to someone who needed help. I do some walking at times (love doing the VolksMarch at Crazy Horse Memorial every year) but I prefer to have 4 legs (horse) or 2 wheels (bicycle).under me. I am a fly fishing nut (since DX) and tie my own flies and build all our rods. I love to now grass and keep my yard with my push mower - have a few other yards I do to help out ones who need a bit of help. So yes - even at 68 and 5+ yrs post DX I am still very active and I believe that's a lot of what got me to where I am today and keeps me going.

    I can not prove anything one way or the other but I believe that there are many things throughout my life that contributed to my IBC. I was born Army, raised on or near Air Force bases after Daddy went to the USAF when it was formed til he retired, was Army myself, married a guy who was Navy but not 'boat Navy' so those 19 1/2 yrs were around aircraft. We have lived under a flight path for an USAF base for several yrs. So I have been around a lot of aircraft exhaust basically all my life. I also was a Master Cosmetologist for 10 yrs, I did screen printing and upholstery for quite a while before the chemicals were as 'nice' as they are today. So who knows - I don't and it doesn't matter to me - I've had a great life and intend on it going on a lot longer but there are no guarantees.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    wow Kicks, super impressive. I hope I am that active at age 68! Trying. At 52 years old, five days after chemo, did a 25.5 mile bike ride today and trying to hang tough. Walked 3.6 miles Tuesday, 4.5 mile hike Wednesday, and 3.6 mile walk Friday. I'm not gonna let this cancer beat me

  • florida2015
    florida2015 Member Posts: 186
    edited March 2015

    well I feel I got it because I chose HRT for 7 years and while on low doses still was aware there was a small risk. Wish I could take that all back bit since I can't have to find a way to deal with this. Radiation and probably a hormonal drug is what I will be doing.......

  • florida2015
    florida2015 Member Posts: 186
    edited March 2015

    wow u r amazing!!! I like to walk also bit it's been on treadmill for last 5 months did to bad weather here in New York. Plan some ocean walks soon. I want to start weight training again but have been told to be cautious because I had lumpectomy 3 weeks ago so did leg work on the machines at gym but always did much arm work. Don't like flabby arms

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited March 2015

    Like many of you, I am active, eat as healthily as possible, don't smoke, and drink moderately. At the time of my diagnosis, I was running the equivalent of 20-25 kms a week and was a pescetarian. I grew up in the country; fresh, clean air; lots of outdoor activity; and freshly harvested produce, free range eggs, no-hormone meat and fish from the pond on our farm. I was the poster-child of health and wellness. I did everything "right". However, breast cancer had other ideas.

    What irked me the most after my diagnosis was the blame game. People asking other family members, "... what did she do...", like breast cancer was, somehow, my fault. GRRRRRR!!! The inference is that those of us who develop breast cancer, somehow, bring it on ourselves. And that, if we return to living healthy and eating right, we will never get cancer again. Makes me mad enough to eat metal and spit bullets.

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited March 2015

    Selena, Hey good to see YA, it's been awhile.

    I agree, the nightmare is made worse by why we got it. Random act of cells gone whacky. I like everyone, have gone down the blame game. Birth control pills, too much red wine. I tell myself to zip it now, keep busy & enjoy life.

  • nlosgatos
    nlosgatos Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2015


    3 Weeks post exchange and trying to get my fitness back. Starting with cardio, letting my little boobies lock in place.  (Downsized from natural DD to maybe a B/C- freedom!)  I can relate to all of the SHUT UP telling me about how I got this. I played tennis almost everyday before this.  Ideal weight, never smoked, no fam history, etc. I've always had a sport since I was 7. A healthy 55, if I may say so.  One venting thing I didn't see here is-  I'm on Facebook (but have kept it off of there, not general knowledge.)  It's been great to stay connected to my active friends' world while I'm healing from my 3rd surgery in 5 months. If I see one more post about this or that curing cancer I'm going to explode!!  How inconsiderate to post this BS!!!   Don't you think if eating asparagus or 5 lemons a day cures cancer there would be no cancer???  I'm not the only one on my FB that isn't affected themselves or a family member dealing with this.  I just wish people would have more compassion than to post these stupid "cures."  Ok, vent over.  Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and feelings on this thread topic.  I came here a bit annoyed and very impatient about getting my fitness back. I feel much better now :)  For those that are further down the road, thank you for posting your  positive experiences, love it! 

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited June 2015

    nlosgatos.....I decided that how I got BC was not worth worrying about. I do know that whatever else goes on in my life, it's extremely important to exercise. Feel just wonderful tonight after riding more than 100 miles over 4 days training for the Seattle-to-Portland. The day I didn't ride was seeing a friend of mine in from Hong Kong at the wine bar.

    Today's ride visited rose gardens, and did it with a friend who is between jobs and hurting. I think he will be fine, but a hard patch.

    What I will say is that getting to "better than ever" takes work and discipline, but it can be done.

    5 years out from the end of active treatment, my life is full and wonderful. 3 weeks ago, I drove to Yakima WA to do a Canyon Run, camp out in the vineyard, and do the Yakima Canyon Ride. Amazing experience. Even more fun that a 30-something guy didn't make the second event because he was too tired!!! (Suspect he heard as much from his friends that I talked to :) )

    Other things I did post active treatment:

    1. Invested in a great hair stylist, so look fab.
    2. Updated my wardrobe so tres chic!
    3. Was chased by a much younger guy and found I could keep up in the ways that matter.
    4. Have done the best work of my career.
    5. Appreciate every single day.

     

    So keep at it, and life does get better. Your fitness will get to 95% about 6 months post active treatment, and another 2 years to better than ever. Hang in there. - Claire

  • nlosgatos
    nlosgatos Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2015


    Thank you, Claire!  You are amazing and inspiring :)   Changing anger/fear/frustration to positivity, peace, and movement.  It's easier to remember the great endorphins and bliss from my sports now. And, you go girl!  

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited June 2015

    I'm another one who was physically active in sports and fit before my diagnosis at fifty. I took a break during chemo and, then, during rads I started hiking; partly to get back-in-shape and partly to work through the "what-the-hell-just-happened" aspect of recovery. By the end of rads, I was hiking five miles at a time, three- to four times a week. It helped tremendously with both my mindset and the mild neuropathy in my toes from chemo.

    About a year later, I took up cycling; largely to keep moving, but mostly because my knee joints don't like running any more (arthritis from various sports injuries over the years). I'm not the champ that Claire is, but - when the weather is nice - I try to get out on a 20-30 km ride a week. I'm lucky in that there are a lot of trails in my area; I just pack a sandwich and some water and GO. This past weekend, I rode a trail to the beach, ate my sandwich on the sand watching the waves, then rode the beach-front trail for 16 kms before heading home. In total, about 25km of beautiful trails bordered by wildflowers, rambling roses, raspberries, etc., or sandy beach. Gorgeous.

  • nlosgatos
    nlosgatos Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2015


    selena-  awesome!   I need to drive (top down, lol) to the beach soon.  something about watching/breathing the ocean just fixes everything.  impressive biking!

  • florida2015
    florida2015 Member Posts: 186
    edited November 2015

    I get how I feel. I couldn't wait to get back into the gym after my radiation treatments

  • Lunderwood
    Lunderwood Member Posts: 125
    edited February 2016

    I am so glad that I found this thread!!!! I thought I was alone in being physically fit and having a healthy lifestyle and being diagnosed with BC. It is still somewhat of a shock and not quite real. How can I feel fine but have cancer? The "why" has truly concerned me. According to my genetic profile and history I should have had less than an average risk of getting cancer. I am trying to move beyond the "why" and now focus on maintaining my fitness and health level. So far I have had very minimal side effects from the neoadjuvant hormone therapy and it has not impacted my running or working out. My hope is that being healthy will help me through surgery and speed up my recovery. I have never had surgery of any kind so I am very apprehensive about how it will impact my lifestyle in the future.

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited February 2016

    Same boat here! No genetic factors, no family history, active and healthy. Bam. Even worse, my friend had just finished hr first 100mile trail run when diagnosed. Who can explain it?

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited February 2016

    same here. Physically very active, eating organic food, yadayadayada. Never felt sick - still don't. Just felt it and knew "uh-oh". My calculated risk was 5%

  • StaceySue2U
    StaceySue2U Member Posts: 281
    edited February 2016

    I have to confess that, although up until a couple of years ago I was very active, I've been less active over the past couple of years and put on a lot of weight. I'm not a smoker or a drinker, had an organic farm, made all of my own household cleaners to avoid chemicals etc. etc. etc.I even milked my own goats and made my own chemical-free dairy products! I really did try to get all the exercise I could but was working tons of overtime in a job that was mostly sitting down and driving plus taking care of the farm. I got cancer.

    I know lots of people who are heavy smokers, don't get any exercise, don't care about chemicals, eat junk, etc. and they didn't get cancer, I did.

    I'm a registered nurse and spent the past 4 years doing home health and hospice after years of ICU and ER. I have to say - very few of the cancer patients I took care of were smokers and many were very active. I would say there were as many cancer patients who were smokers as there were non-cancer patients who were smokers. Smoking causes COPD, yes. Cancer? I think they're making that up. I didn't see any evidence that exercise had anything to do with it. I did see a lot of heavy drinkers who got liver cancer.

    I do not like the way our society and the medical system put the blame on the patients, or the way we're convinced we have control over something we have no control of. Now - if they did a study of "type A" personalities vs "type B" personalities who get cancer, I think we might see a correlation there. Worrying about things does not help.

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited February 2016
    I, too, was very active, very fit,on the low end of the healthy range of BMI, did not smoke nor drink. Bam. None of that made any difference; I ended up with cancer.

    I do think it has made recovery from treatment easier, and may contribute to my lack of issues with Femara. It did make RT easier and all of my MDs have told me it shaves points off my recurrence risk.

    I get very tired, however, of all the BC literature that assumes we have not led a healthy lifestyle and need to clean up our diet and get off the sofa.
  • Optimist52
    Optimist52 Member Posts: 302
    edited February 2016

    When I was first diagnosed at 40, I had been breastfeeding my youngest for nearly 6 years. Yes, years not months. With my oldest it was well over 3 years so over 9 years continuously. I belonged to La Leche League. Have often heard how protective breastfeeding is against BC. Didnt help me unfortunately.

  • Lunderwood
    Lunderwood Member Posts: 125
    edited February 2016

    At this point I am trying to move beyond the "why me?", although StaceySu2U I do wonder about the type "A" vs type "B" personality correlation. I definitely fit into the type "A" profile. Stressful job, tendency to be driven and push myself to the extreme. Even now when faced with hormone therapy and possible side effects, my solution is to increase my weekly miles I run and bump up my workout routine. I am still healthier than my co-workers and family members.

    On another note, I am struggling with the additional prescriptions and drugs my doctors are routinely trying to offer. They have prescribed anti nausea meds and bone density meds that list terrible side effects. All to offset "potential" issues from the neoadjuvant hormone therapy. So far I have very moderate side effects and do not plan on taking any additional meds unless absolutely necessary. As a general rule, I rarely if ever get sick or if I do it's so minor that I just use something herbal and get through it. Do you believe the medical professionals routinely prescribe the meds based on an average BC patient needs? So far it's been easier to just accept the prescription and then not fill it.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited February 2016

    Well, I am solidly type B so…..

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited February 2016

    I was never of the "why me?" mindset - more a question of "what caused this?." Genetic testing provided a clue at least.

    My annoyance stems from the automatic assumption that women who get breast cancer have led unhealthy lives - which we ALL know is inaccurate. Our local ACS building had posters stating "Cancer Hates Healthy Habits!" which I found both misleading and offensive.

  • TwoHobbies
    TwoHobbies Member Posts: 2,118
    edited February 2016

    Hopeful and everyone, I'm right there with ya. I've seen so many women discuss how they exercised, they ate healthy, and here we are. OK so I'm unlucky, I'm an anomaly, or your frickin studies are meaningless. Its particularly annoying when an organization, the general public and friends and family spout this stuff. The only possible risk factor I had was having my first child at 35. I think the actual risk was having first child after 35, well I was a half year early on that one. I read in a magazine that if you drink coffee it makes tamoxifen more effective! I read this sitting in a gown waiting on my radiation treatment after a recurrence where I not only took my tamoxifen every day, but drank 3 to 4 cups of coffee with it. Talk about wanting to throw a magazine across a room!

    I think we have to laugh and have a snappy retort. I once had someone tell me that blueberries prevent cancer. I told her "Don't count on it, I ate blueberries every day".

    I did have stress, emotionally draining work situation for 3 years prior, a child with a chronic illness for 8 years, caring for a mother who had hip surgery a year or so before.

  • Englishmummy
    Englishmummy Member Posts: 337
    edited February 2016

    This is a great discussion - I have pondered the same things myself: I have worked at not being angry - I had a friend that got called back on a mammo and called me to get the low down on what to expect...asked me what I thought - did the whole 80% benign speech but in my head I was thinking sarcastically " you'll be fine: you're overweight, never exercise, eat junk food 3 meals a day along with copious amounts of candy, take every pill out there, booze up every weekend,smoke, use bazillions of chemicals daily on your skin/nails/hair" ....I thought I did everything 'right' (ate organic, exercised, no excess body weight, no chemical cleaners, cosmetics, breast fed 3 children and on, and on and on)....and I got it both sides at 41. I am not a cruel person and that was very ugly thinking (of which I am ashamed, please don't judge:) but I am sure you all have an idea of what I mean. I even went through a phase wondering if I had stayed in the UK if things may have been different - was mad at my hubby for bringing me here!!! The truth is it is we don't know very much really: we can guesstimate all we like but there is not a definitive answer - and that in its self, is very, very annoying. My onc told me we live in a very polluted world, make peace with it because you can't control everything (but she did tell me to get a high quality water filter). She thinks that quite possibly lot of this is environmental especially Er+ and bilateral. My ob told me (after I also Breast fed for 7 years almost straight) that some have a theory that too much breast feeding is no longer protective, quite possibly the reverse, but it is unproven similar thoughts with parity . Since I don't have an answer that satisfies, I turned the discussion in my head to 'why not me? I am no more or less special than the next person with BC or any kind of cancer for that matter - it works...sometimes. My BS did tell me 'not to throw the baby out with the bath water' as far as healthy eating/living goes. That living a healthy lifestyle is beneficial with or without a cancer dx.


    Edit to add: That friend btw - she was perfectly fine....

  • Logang
    Logang Member Posts: 421
    edited February 2016

    Just wanted to chime in as I find this an interesting topic. I have been very active over the past several years and maintain a healthy weight. I knew I was high risk due to a very extensive family history. I breastfed both of my boys. I wasn't surprised with my diagnosis, but it's still upsetting after trying to do so many things to lower my risk. Maybe it did help. My mom was diagnosed by age 30 and lost her battle at 34. I made it to 39! As of right now, no genetic mutations have been identified, but I am in the process of more extensive testing. I think the cases that baffle me the most are the cases of no family history, physically active, healthy eaters that randomly get cancer.

  • SummerAngel
    SummerAngel Member Posts: 1,006
    edited February 2016

    I found it annoying at first when I was diagnosed, but now it makes me chuckle. I've been active my entire life, never overweight, always eating better than most (raised by a hippie mom who fed us organic food we raised ourselves and I adore vegetables and cooking). I had convinced myself that the way I lived would keep me alive and well into my late 80's or 90's, as most in my family do with the exception of those who smoke (they always die very early). Bilateral BC at 45! I personally think mine was a combination of genetic susceptibility and environment, although I have no idea what environmental factors "pulled the trigger", so to speak. I may well live into my 80's or 90's anyway, though, as I only have about a 10% chance of recurrence.

  • WinningSoFar
    WinningSoFar Member Posts: 951
    edited February 2016

    I am deeply skeptical that healthy living is preventative for breast cancer. In fact, someone would have to prove it to me. I suspect that our belief in this myth is a result of women's magazines parroting each either and selling magazines. I've just seen and heard of too many cases of the 'healthy lifestyle' women getting cancer. It almost seems that getting breast cancer is a random event.

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