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  • labhusky
    labhusky Member Posts: 177
    edited June 2015

    Anyone have headaches after treatment? My 2nd treatment was Thursday. I sweat too it seems at night and when I wake up, pull off the covers. I also notice myself a little grumpy and have less patience. Oh but the headache between the eyes is a doozy. Also I will lay down and hear noises in my ears. Had these side effects the first time too. Minus the big D this time. Little bit of nosebleeds too. It's not like it starts running and sometimes I get allergies so bad that I get them too. I use Vaseline and ayr gel for those

  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited June 2015

    I woke up this morning feeling like this is my last few days of normalcy probably until the end of the year. It's an odd feeling. Getting my port placed, chemo ed, and echo-cardiogram this week then it all starts on June 11th. I didn't feel this way prior to surgery but chemo feels like a whole new world.

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited June 2015

    thanks jenjen, my MO's nurse called me earlier today after seeing that I called the emergency line and she had me go in for a urine sample. Now I'm just waiting for the results to see if the dr on call gave me the right antibiotics or if I should change to something different. I just want to head home and lay on the couch! :)


    labhusky, i had headaches the first treatment, they haven't kicked in just yet for the second. I was told it could be an electrolyte imbalance so I started drinking some gatorade or coconut water to try to help. We'll see if it helps!

  • surprisedat65
    surprisedat65 Member Posts: 73
    edited June 2015

    Jen x 3:

    Thanks for the info. I will be less worried knowing this, and state of mind must be at least a part of how one is apt to react to infusions, don't you think?

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    steflove--hope you feel better soon. Sounds like your MO's office is on top of things.

    Iman--good luck with treatment #2!

    Labhusky--I had a headache the first 3 days. It seemed to get worse when I slowed down my fluid intake and better when I kept a steady influx.

    Today's been better so far--slept 7 hours last night but then between naps on Sunday and last night, I think I must have logged in about 14 hours so I was probably making up for my zero sleep Saturday night

  • surprisedat65
    surprisedat65 Member Posts: 73
    edited June 2015

    About my weekend: Friday I was awakened at 3:00 am by a pounding in my chest. Since there were some issues regarding my cardiac fitness for taking Andriamycin I was a bit worried. I lay back down, meditated, and the palpitations seemed to subside, sending me back to sleep. Awoke feeling ok, but around 11: am while sitting at the computer the symptom returned. I called my PCP's office hoping I might get in for an EKG just to check but was told to go the the ER immediately, which I did. (If you ever want to jump the line at the ER, just say you have chest pain!) They did an immediate EKG, normal. They listened to my heart, normal. They sent me for a scan to check for a blood clot in the lungs, no blood clot. So by now I'm convinced the heart had no part in this odd condition, but what did?

    What made this a bit more complicated was that the day before I had been cooking a big batch of arroz con pollo and used my great big ol' Le Creuset cast iron oval Dutch oven. I had to get it down from its high shelf and move it in and out of the oven several times from a very awkward position. After I thought about it I realized that the pain I was feeling from the palpitations was in the two places where I had doubtless strained my muscles, the chest (right in the center) and lower back.

    Anyway, about 3:00 pm the pounding finally ceased, I was admitted and fitted with a heart monitor. There was some talk of keeping me in the hospital over the weekend and getting me in for a stress test first thing Monday a.m. to which I had no intention of agreeing (to the stay, not the stress test). About 10:30 pm the mysterious pounding returned, and by now my sore muscles were even more sore and the discomfort was much worse. By 1:30 am when the nurse came in I explained what was going on and she went off to see what she could do about the pain. I'm figuring they'll shove a couple of Tylenol at me, but when she finally returned (I was pacing up and down because by this point I couldn't lie still) she brought morphine – a pleasant surprise. She said that morphine had fewer side effects when combined with heart problems, so she slowing injected (to prevent nausea) the 1 mg. dose, eventually I slept and awoke at 6:00 am with no more thumping and bumping. They had telemetry running on me the whole time and there was not a sign of any cardiac irregularity.

    Finally on Saturday afternoon I saw a very sensible doc who had to agree that whatever this thing was, it probably was not cardiac related and agreed to discharge me. But what, I asked, could possibly have been the problem? He said sometimes low blood pressure could produce a similar symptom. In fact, my bp had been running very low and getting lower, not higher, throughout my hospital stay. My PCP had added a beta blocker to my ACE inhibitor a few days before my first infusion and I had noticed at home that my bp was lower than usual (which I thought was good, right? Wrong.) So he told me to stop the beta blocker & keep track of my bp. So far, so good.

    I have to assume that this episode also had nothing to do with the chemo, especially since I was nearing the end of my first cycle, altho' that idea had been floated by the RN. So watch that bp and don't let this happen to you!

  • Kadychiv
    Kadychiv Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2015

    I just finished treatment #2 on Thursday... Feeling very tired still and can barely keep my eyes opened. Trying very hard but wearing me down. I did loose all my hair last night which was very traumatic. It was falling out like crazy and my scalp hurt so my husband buzzed it. He was so sweet but I had a panic attack after I lookein the mirror. Any tricks to building energy? Thought about asking if I can take B12 shots to help going to ask next visit!

  • surprisedat65
    surprisedat65 Member Posts: 73
    edited June 2015

    Kadychiv: I have #2 tomorrow. I slept a lot the first week after my 1st infusion and expect to start doing the same tomorrow. I'm also readying as best I can for the mass surrender of my hair — started wearing my fedora today because the hair has gotten decidedly more sparse. I am not prepared for my scalp hurting, tho'. I've been of good spirits about it but I'm sure when I see myself in the mirror completely bald I am likely to feel like you did.

    I've gone off regular caffeine use, but I keep a jar of brewed espresso in the fridge so when I need to get up and go I can take a slug, usually no more than 2 Tbsp., and do my going. I'm drinking so much water I'm not too worried. Then I come home and go to sleep. I'll be interested to hear about the B12. Feel better

  • Magnolia83
    Magnolia83 Member Posts: 99
    edited June 2015

    Steflove and Surprisedat65, sorry to hear you guys have had a rough time lately...hang in there!

    For those of you facing hair loss, I wanted to let you know about an amazing charitable organization called Lolly's Locks (lollyslocks.org)...they provide high quality wigs to cancer patients in need. I applied with them and was accepted, and received a beautiful custom-made human-hair wig free of charge. They do ask about your financial situation, so you have to be able to show that you wouldn't be able to afford a nice wig without it (and these human hair wigs are THOUSANDS of dollars...I NEVER would have been able to afford it!). If any of you are interested, I highly recommend applying, they were wonderful to work with.

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    surprised--wow, you had an eventful weekend! Feel better and good luck with round 2.

    Day 6--so far, so good. No nausea; I've only taken 3 zofran since chemo and 1 compazine so far. I have been putting on my seabands and wearing them for several hours at a time. Managed to get out and run errands today and cook dinner, play a little with the dogs. I'm tired but didn't come in and immediately crash into a 3 hour coma like yesterday's dog-washing adventure. Only mild bone pain today. I also got a hair cut--from the bottom of my bra to above my shoulders. It's about a foot shorter but figure it will be a lot less messy and stressful when it starts to go in about 10 days. Water intake staying a little above 100 oz every day plus a large bottle of Gatorade.

  • Tifree40
    Tifree40 Member Posts: 13
    edited June 2015

    Iman how are you doing/ feeling my TC #2 is Thursday. I am so nervous about it.

  • surprisedat65
    surprisedat65 Member Posts: 73
    edited June 2015

    I have noticed several of you mentioning your going to "chemo ed." Who supplies this? I had none, had to self educate, and I missed quite a bit of info until I went to my first infusion. For instance, I still don't know if I'm to get a second Neulasta shot, tomorrow, the day after infusion #2, or when I'll get it again. It was by far the most expensive of all my drugs, by the way. I had simply been told by my onco doc that I'd be getting A & C, no mention that it would change to Taxol after the initial 4 infusions. My onco doc is one of a firm of 4 oncologists who run 3 chemo centers and are opening a 4th soon. You'd think they would have enough patients to supply more info. I thought it was very nice that the onco doc gave me several opportunities to ask her questions, but as we all know, one has no idea what questions to ask, especially when you're sitting there a little shell shocked because the story about your lumpectomy has suddenly changed to include the necessity of chemo.

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited June 2015

    It's 7:30 AM, and I'm heading to the Oncologist to have blood work tested, and tomorrow morning I begin treatment #2. Yippie Skippie. I have a bottle of wine waiting for the UP part of my treatment (10 days-ish after spa). Not looking forward to it, but I'll be halfway through the phase ONE. I bought a wig, but also chopped my hair short. SHH- ladies, the hair started falling out on my bottom shelf yesterday after work. It's kinda funny. NOT. hahaha

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  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited June 2015

    Glad to hear you're all hanging in there. If you can possibly get some exercise--even a few short walks--you might have more energy. Research shows that, odd as it might seem, exercise helps with fatigue.


  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited June 2015

    surprisedat, my chemo ed was scheduled with my MO's office. I believe the actual appointment is with the Nurse Practitioner there.

  • sharapril1021
    sharapril1021 Member Posts: 42
    edited June 2015

    Hi All! Yesterday was my first Chemo treatment, which went off without any problems. My DH and I got home around 230pm and I was fine until about 445pm and started to get really tired that I had to sit down (something that was never good at). I dozed off for a few minutes on and off but work up around 630pm with a dull headache between my eyes and my stomach felt a little weird so I ate some crackers thinking I was hungry, but the feeling was still there not thinking that the nausea meds. were not working anymore. I never had morning sickness with my two kids, and also psyched myself out of vomiting when my family was sick, which always worked for me. Was getting nervous and called my MO to see if I could take any of the anti-nausea meds I had at home, which he approved along with ibuprofen for my headache. Downside it took about 2+ hours to kick in but was able to sleep without any issues from 1230a-500am. I made a note to make sure I continue to take before that last does wears off completely!! This afternoon is my Neulasta shot, which I am hoping I have no major effects from..but time will tell.

    Question - I purchased the Sea Bands and put them on last night to see if it would help me. Should you only wear them for a couple of hours or could you wear them for as long as you want? I haven't taken them off yet and wanted to see if anyone felt weird once they removed them.

    Suprisedat65, Sorry to hear you had a rough go, but hope you are feeling better!

    Magnolia63 - thanks for the info regarding the wigs. I wish I would have know about this sooner since I ended up purchasing 2 wigs (1 human hair/ 1 synthetic) that cost me over $900 and that was with my girlfriend/hairstylist who got a discount. What makes me so mad is that my insurance company will not cover any of the costs because they feel that a wig is like cosmetic surgery; you don't really need it! My husband is on disability and I just submitted my papers as well...not sure if I would qualify but it would have been worth a try

    Be strong everyone and have a good week :)

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    sharapril--the first couple of days, I wore the bands almost all of the time but my hands would start feeling a little funky so I started taking them off every couple of hours to get the circulation going for a bit. I had that same headache and other than bone pain, it was the worst of my SE's after round 1.

    Shannan--I had to laugh at the hair below. Sorry. But my one hope for hair loss is a little farther north on my chin! If I have to lose it on my head, I sure hope it comes out there, too. I'm of mostly German descent and have a naturally high testosterone level so I have to pluck about 20 hairs EVERY DAY! I'd have had it lasered off but the hair is mostly blond which the lasers are less successful on. So fingers crossed that I'll lose a beard or two.

    Surprised--I learned most of my info from these boards and the Internet however my local chapter of the American Cancer Society offers a course so check with yours. Since my work hours are the vampire shift, their hours didn't jive with my schedule...

  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited June 2015

    Saw my PS this morning, I've joked with my family and SO that he must really like looking at my boobs because I've seen him 4 times since surgery 4 weeks ago. My MO told me to ask him if he felt I was healed enough to begin chemo next week and he gave it a thumbs up so we're still on schedule. Then, I was surprised when he said he didn't need to see me again for 2 months. I guess he's tired of looking at my boobs :)

    Magnolia63, I appreciate that wig info as well. Checked the page out and there's quite a bit of information about other programs too. I hadn't planned on a wig but now that we've scheduled my chemo to last until late Fall, it might be chilly enough that I could deal with a wig then.


  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited June 2015

    marlanab- thank you. You made me laugh. Listen, I sit in my car every morning before work and using a magnifying mirror, pluck my chin. I'm 50% Irish (mothers side) and my dad was all German/Dutch. My close friends ask me what I we do when I don't have to pluck. I feel like I've found a kindred soul in you. HUGS!!

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited June 2015

    I hope everyone is feeling better...I just finished 2nd spa visit. So far so good except for the brain fog. Nebulasta tomorrow. I did ask for lidocaine for the port...it only hurts for a few minutes but I am having less patience with avoidable pain, so lidocaine 1 hour before blood draws and chemo. I signed up for a makeover workshop...June 8. Oncologist gave ok for reconstruction in August so won't miss 2 weeks of the first month of school. Bills so far are more than our house and the improvements, around $200,000...Thank God for health insurance. The sun is shining, I am going to rest outside so I am ready for DD's concert tonight

  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Member Posts: 458
    edited June 2015

    Well had friend take clippers to the head,  started with #4 guard the finished with #2. The hair was shedding pretty good with combing will take the sticky lint roller to it tonight. Out of habit after hopping in shower put shampoo on the head then when getting out after drying wrapped the towel around my head. Have to say one perk is 15 minutes have been shaved off (pun intended) my getting ready routine. I did treat myself to some frozen yogurt,  but Ben and Jerry's is calling.

    Herceptin tomorrow,  I almost forgot about my lidocaine cream for the port… .will have to set that out. 2nd full spa day next Wednedsay. I am feeling really good right now day #13 no s/e to speak of. So much so thinking heck I can do the full dose of steroids… ask again onday 20.

    Oh the chin hairs,  we can only hope,  I am right there with you German heritage and all. They have been less stubborn but egads the acne. I am going to have to get more concealer.  The LGFB workshop is next Monday and during the day so I can actually go. There was no chemo class for me either,  they did have a handout with phone #'s to call and give me an appointment for each week with where to go,  to office for labs or straight to treatment room. 

  • lman
    lman Member Posts: 22
    edited June 2015

    tifree: My second TC was yesterday and today I feel fine except I am more tired. The steroids I interrupt my night sleep. I did force myself out for a walk in the rain both yesterday and today because I am a firm believer in moving when possible. Neulasta tomorrow. Good luck on Thursday.

  • dunesleeper
    dunesleeper Member Posts: 2,060
    edited June 2015

    I'm a bit behind but will respond to the discussion happening here on p 14. As soon as I saw an unusually large amount of hair in the drain protector, I went to Hair Cuttery and had them cut it to a little less than 1/4". That was a smart move, because lots of hair kept coming out, but it was much more manageable. Also, it didn't hurt as much. I had prepared by buying some hair nets, a turban (for around the house), and several scarves. I got all this from TLC. It's all cotton stuff and made in China, but it is very affordable. I bought a gorgeous scarf somewhere else, and it cost $50 by itself. I could buy 5 scarves (even pre-tied) for that. Still, it is nice to have a nice silky one. I may even buy another. TLC also sells a nice variety of turbans. Some look like they are quite soft. TLC also sells headbands, which I wear under my scarf. It gives a finishing touch and hides some dark areas around your ears. I was glad I ordered them. I do need to learn how to use makeup though. For now, I am still in unpacking mode.

  • perky2020
    perky2020 Member Posts: 64
    edited June 2015

    rosesrx-I really laughed when you wrote about "never trust a fart". Well, don't trust 2 or 3 of them while chatting during a family gathering! Found my panties full and I didn't even know!! Ugh! After 5 days of diarrhea I think it is finally going back to normal-ish.

    So glad I learned about the water here. Seems to help.

    Also learned the tin taste I have can be helped by the soda and salt rinse. Dietitian said the tin taste was because of extra bacteria in the month and rincing before (and after) eating can help.

    Tried on wigs today....looked like the cone heads from Saturday night live. Guess I will wait till I get my hair cut on Thursday.

    Oh the chin hairs, that is so funny! Made my daughter promise she wouldn't let me out of the house with them. Even the magnifying mirror doesn't always help.

    Going in tomorrow to check blood count. I didn't get the neulasta for some reason

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited June 2015

    my head started itching and burning about 2 hours before I got off work tonight. It made me think of many prior sunburns on my scalp which led me to thinking about aloe vera gel (the bottle I had at home has lidocaine). When I got home, I thinned out the aloe with water (roughly 2 parts water to gel), wet my hair, very gently massaged it into my scalp and covered it with a shower cap. Instantaneous relief! It might be easier if you have someone to help to get it evenly distributed on the scalp but I'm single and my dogs, sadly, don't have opposable thumbs to hold the bottle so I was on my own. I'm debating about covering my pillow with a towel and sleeping like this or rinsing it out before going to sleep..

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited June 2015

    Hope everyone is feeling good today! I'm finally starting to feel like myself but still not back to normal after Thursday's treatment.

    An update about what I thought was a bladder infection... I think I mentioned that my MO's nurse saw I called the emergency line Sunday and told me to come in for a urine sample. I went in, peed in a cup, went back to work. Never heard anything back so I kept on taking the antibiotics. Luckily my hospital chain has a patient portal online and you can see all of your lab results, appointments, bills, etc and I got a notification that my test results were up. It clearly meant nothing to me but it did confirm that there was blood in my urine. So I called the MO the next day and another nurse called me back to tell me that it's not an infection and to stop taking the antibiotics. Hmm..ok. So I asked why there's blood in my urine. I stumped her. She kept saying what I was seeing was from the adriamyacin which I KNEW wasn't right b/c the red stuff doesn't last 3 days! She then told me it's probably just my period. Um, no. I know it's not. So she put me on hold and then came back saying she talked to the nurse practitioner and it seems to be from the Cytoxan. It can cause sepsis like symptoms, including blood in the urine. And to just stay hydrated. I'm still not a fan of the answer but I'll bring it up again with my MO when I see her next week. :/ The blood has gone away completely today it seems so at least that is over with. *sigh*

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited June 2015

    I have a horrible burning sensation in my throat. I'm not usually one to get indigestion, but I have it. What can I take to relieve this pain? HELP!! Just finished round #2 about 2/3 hours ago.

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited June 2015

    Salt water rinse, then Tums. I take Prilosec daily so I haven't had it since 1st round.

  • Shanann
    Shanann Member Posts: 106
    edited June 2015
  • JenJenJen
    JenJenJen Member Posts: 39
    edited June 2015

    Shanann I also think Tums will give you relief quickly.

    Steflove, glad there's no more blood in your urine.

    I've been dealing with loose stools / diarrhea for the past couple days to the point that my anus hurts every time I poop like its severely irritated. It's gotten to the point where I'm afraid to go poop. Anyone have this and know of anything to relieve the pain

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