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  • speechmom22
    speechmom22 Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2015

    Hi everyone! So glad I found this group! I finished my chemo on April 7 (Taxotere/Cytoxan-3 rounds, Adriamycin/Cytoxan-1 round due to a reaction from Taxotere). I have been experiencing a lot of muscle and joint pain. I feel like I have arthritis! I am only 45 yrs old but when I get up out of a chair I feel about 80! It started after chemo finished. Does anyone else experience this? I haven't mentioned it to the doctor yet. I have been walking daily but that hasn't helped.


  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited May 2015

    Sppechmom. That's par for the course. My friend said hers lasted 5 months and gradually got better I don't feel 80 I feel 100!

  • Mecsmama
    Mecsmama Member Posts: 20
    edited May 2015

    speech mom, I had terrible muscle/bone/joint pain after my last chemo treatment. I had 4 rounds of cytoxan/taxotere. It was terrible and exhausting. It has gotten much better in the last couple of weeks. My last chemo was March 31. I am exercising pretty regularly and I think that has definitely helped.

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited May 2015

    welcome speechmom22, not sure about joint pain, esp since you're finished chemo. Are u on anything else? Did u do nuelstra shots? Also did u speak with your onc about this

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited May 2015

    To clarify I don't have achy joints at rest, just when I try to move. Getting up from the table I have to lean on the table and say to my husband, " Oil can" like the Tin Man. They hurt until they get warmed up and lock up when I don't move for 15 min

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited May 2015

    imageHave cut the nails back further. The new part is intact, but the yellow part progressively lifts away. Trim them further back every 2-3 days as they get junk underneath and I don't want an infection

  • Damselfly
    Damselfly Member Posts: 62
    edited May 2015

    Chloesmom, that pain sounds just like what I had from Neulasta. I was fine while I was moving, and fine while I was staying still, but when I would transition from one to the other, either getting up after a rest or stopping after moving, everything would just start to spasm for a minute. It passed relatively quickly for me when it did happen, but for a minute there I couldn't do anything else except stay still, breathe and wait for it to pass. Are you still on the Neulasta or is this a different thing? Sorry about the nails, but for what it's worth they look clean...

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited May 2015

    haven't had Neulasta for 7 weeks. The nurse at MO said it's stiffness from the taxotere. Seemed to get progressively worse until a month PFC. Now a little better but hard to get out of a chair after a meal or 1/2 a TV show

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited May 2015

    now that I'm done with chemo, I thought I was stiff from my runners' knee, although still have it, it's NOWHERE like it was. Must've been the toxic-tere! Rads next ugh. Have my sim tmw.

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited June 2015

    So sim was fast n harmless thank God. I didn't appreciate getting tattoos tho- no matter how small they are. I liked being a tat virgin.

    Next up Wednesday, herceptin, follow up mamo and ultrasound w/possible biopsy which I really doubt they'll do

    Then the colonoscopy😱

  • Dromedary
    Dromedary Member Posts: 26
    edited June 2015

    Well - I'm in shock. Last Taxol (4/4 DD) last Thursday and so far practically no side effects at all. No joint pain, almost no stomach pain... can't believe it! ONC reduced my dose a little more because of concern about neuropathy - now I'm thinking "Did I get enough?" Lol - like I feel cheated that they didn't poison me enough this time! Anyway, whatever, if it carries on like this I'll be happy. Even did a Pilates class today. Feel pretty tired tonight, maybe slightly woozy in my head, but compared to the other sessions.... NOTHING! One more Neulasta to go, although I don't think that's what's caused the pain on previous occasions.

    Agree on eyebrows and lashes - the WORST bit. Feel like a white Avatar. Have ordered something called Wunderbrow from Amazon but can't get it till I get to London at the end of the month. You girls seem to get care packages? Luckee! Nothing like that where I live.


  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited June 2015

    Now have 4 lower eyelashes on the left and 3 on the right. Scared myself when I looked in the mirror

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited June 2015

    tests are back, no kidney stones at present. Must have passed it. No lower eyelashes, just looked, guess that is why the runny eyes and gunk. You would think they would warn u of a possibility, would that be a big deal? No nose hairs either, thus the drippy nose. Ridges on finger nail, but they r not loose, thank u God. Hang in there gals it's almost over. 2 for me..".

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited June 2015

    ChloesMom I jealous of you😍!

    JerseyGirl, glad everything came back fine. Yes almost done. Are u having rads

  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2015

    hi. On my last chemo dd taxol today. Dr reduced my dose by 25% due to neurothropy in right foot . I was concerned about reducing it and having less protection so I let her make the choice. She said I had enough in my system otherwise that I was good. I should be happy and celebrating but instead I'm blue. Not really sure why just think its everything compiling. No neulasta this time and she said I'll feel better just have to be careful to wash my hands a lot.

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited June 2015

    live, you know it's funny, as miserable as I know I was during chemo, I had the same feeling. I wonder if it's the fear that once we've come out from the toxic umbrella, will everything be ok. Side effects don't measure effectiveness of the drugs but we still know that the drugs are in our systems while on it. Congrats on being finished!!! Continue to feel better.

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited June 2015

    Nothing to be jealous of now. The other eyelashes bit the dust today. 8 weeks PFC I thought I'd visit my aunt later this monthwith my wig on and try to hide the fact that I had been treated for BC. Didn't want her to worry as she is almost 97. Don't think I can pass now without brows and lashes

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited June 2015

    what about using the brow power thingy and some upper lid eye liner. Try looking made up to hide the lack of lashes n brows?

    Oh man will I be super pissy if my lashes and 7 brow hairs fall out ESP when my hair hasn't started coming back in yet. My bottom lashes are pretty much gone and a few upper left lashes but not too noticeable.

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited June 2015

    Todaywent to Ulta beauty. The lady there helped me pick out a shade of Lancôme brow expert powder pencil. I like it better than brow power!

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited June 2015

    cool! was it more expensive?

    Meanwhile my echo showed reduced heart function so herceptin was held. I'm really pissy about this. Onc says its still within normal range but at the lower end of normal. Yet she doesnt think its from herceptin, suspect persistent high bp. so i see cardiology next friday. my colonoscopy has also been postponed because of this until after I'm cleared from cardiology. Mind you it was mind idea to ask should it be delayed. then folks were like um yeah- no anesthesia until after i'm cleared.

    consequently, my onc increased my bp pill which is a water pill. well she doubled it. my potassium is low too. i'm thinking all of this is bec of the increased water pill which lead to low potassium which affected my heart. But all around my bp is a mess due to my life being a circus right now. so I'm happy to see cardiology so it can be addressed. she said i'll prolly be put on beta blockers like the rest of the people in america.

    i'm concerned, but not worried, but very pissed- that's just my process. I feel my phoenix rising....

    order brow power thing. looking forward to it.

  • rossileo18
    rossileo18 Member Posts: 245
    edited June 2015
    Dromedary and live deliciously,
    I just had my last DD taxol today and like both of you, my oncologist reduced my dose due to neuropathy. Too early to see how the SE are and I still need to get my neulasta shot. I'm getting a reduced dose of that too due to bone pain last time. But regardless how bad the SE are, at least I'm done and have three weeks off before surgery.

    Congratulations to both of you! I don't post often, but I did see that you were on a schedule like mine and have followed your posts.
  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2015

    im not getting neulasta this last Ct. Said I didn't need to make white blood cells quickly for any more treatments and could just do the process naturally. I think its interesting how we all have slightly different processes even tho we generally have the same treatments. Duramama had different steroids regimen than I did too. At any rate 3 of us out the doors now. Woohoo!

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited June 2015

    chemo 5 tomorrow, seeing MO, blood work and I control my racing heart with, abdominal yoga breathing, brings its right down. Still going to remind him of that and numbness in fingers and toes and I think my tongue too, just the tip, but since I have had so many issues with mouth not sure. Be well all and catch up when I can.

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited June 2015

    Lancôme eye powder pencil was about $24 I think. They come in different shades. I got blonde as my hair is grey and it worked well

    The brow power is one shade and darker if you press harder and I had trouble getting the same pressure on left as right so had 2 shades of brows.

  • rossileo18
    rossileo18 Member Posts: 245
    edited June 2015
    Live deliciously,

    I have surgery scheduled in three weeks so maybe I need a little extra help with the neulasta. It's only half dose this time.

    Yes, the slight variations are interesting. I was given Benadryl, Decadron (steroid) and Pepcid at the time of the infusion and nothing else, so I've always been surprised at the talk of the steroid regimen.

    I think also darumama is almost done too?

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited June 2015

    Tomorrow is my last chemo! I've never been so excited to have some toxic drugs infused through a port on my chest. I'm getting my regular dose since the numbness in left foot never got to be too terrible. So, I so won't be questioning whether I got enough. Instead, I'll be questioning whether the fish I ate during adriamycin or the caffeinated tea I drank lessened the effectiveness of chemo.

    My BS told me in my first post mastectomy follow up that 50% of the BC battle was mental. I didn't really get that or believe that at the time. But I am beginning to see what she was saying now, as the mental game is clearly afoot. I have to say that I really value having you ladies in this forum to share with. Even though I don't post every day I get notification emails with the group messages.You've helped me stay on the saner side of the continuum.

    Rossileo, I've pretty much had the same drugs as you during infusion. The steroids I take for three days after. MO says they are to lessen side effects. I also have many drug allergies and I think they help with that too.

    I've found Taxol to be vexingly unpredictable. Each week I've had a different experience in terms of the onset of side effects, but they usually have ended 8 days after treatment. Who knows what it'll be this week, but I'll have the consolation that it is the last time. Still doing Neulasta this weekend since no one told me to skip it.

    How are you doing post chemo Live Deliciously? Hope you're having an experience like Dromedary and are SE Free!

    Brow report: there is "nothing" to report. 😂 Nails: hanging in there, but this seems like a SE that might come to haunt me in a few weeks when my colorful stripes grow out.

    Have to get going. I'm doing my prechemo house cleaning. If it doesn't get done today it will have to wait a week! Hang in there everyone!


  • Damselfly
    Damselfly Member Posts: 62
    edited June 2015

    Congratulations on finishing Darumama! That's so great -- I remember thinking What the heck, I can take anything this time as long as it's the LAST time... I am 6 weeks PFC and have a nice layer of fuzz on top of my head. My eyebrows fell out after the last infusion but have started to grow back, my eyelashes were always thin and are still thin, though I have some, and my problem toenail has pretty much fallen off except I've got it anchored in place by a bandaid. But hey, it's great to feel normal again.

    I went in for my last fill on the TE's today and tried to schedule surgery for reconstruction. I was told I have to have a physical with my GP first and she is not available until July 9th! That puts everything way too late for me. I can't really go back to work until all this is finished. I am going to try to call and harass them and see if I can get something else...

    Happy days to all -- hang in those of you who are still working through all this!

  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited June 2015

    hi darumama and everyone. Two days post last taxol chemo and I feel pretty good. Legs starting to ache but I had a pool party with a business group so i was running around trying to make everything perfect like I do. Quite a fault of mine! I didn't do neulasta so definitely know the muscle aches are from taxol. Hair is growing in on my head. Peach fuzz about 1/8".

  • Dromedary
    Dromedary Member Posts: 26
    edited June 2015

    Not much to add - haven't checked in for a couple of days but great to hear about those finishing or finished with chemo. Rossileo, hope your last one is as easy as mine was and you too livedeliciously. Have continued to not have any major SE from the last Taxol a week ago - just a slightly woozy feeling in my head, but I think I've pretty much had that since day 1 of AC. Does anyone else feel like they smell of chemicals? I feel like they're coming out of my pores and I can smell it. Trying to drink lots of liquid to flush it through but...

    Love the way we're all counting our peach fuzzes and eyelashes! Couple of lashes on either eye, top and bottom, but they're ones that didn't fall, rather than new ones. Ditto eyebrows, with right side having several more than left. Go figure! I think my hair may be growing... but not all follicles, so it looks gappy. Seems like no one is going to make this easy on us - just have to laugh it off, but I do feel really UGLY at the moment. I've been trying to reduce food intake this week, get some of this steroid/comfort eating weight off. Did fine until this evening and then I wolfed half a bar of chocolate. Oops. Oh well...

    Wonder how long it will be before I wake up in the morning and think about something other than the whole BC process. Seems like there's been nothing else really happening for six months - and I know a lot of you have been at it for longer.


  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited June 2015

    14 lbs more than pre chemo. Went to the pool today and swam 10 laps. The first time I've felt up to minimal exercise. Moving forward

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