Starting Chemo May 2015

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  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited May 2015

    Sharapril-Stool softener and laxative, my oncologist said Senekot. I had major bone and joint pain for 2 days, after that not too bad. I was able to do almost everything. I eat 6-8 snacks a day instead of 3 meals. I didn't have any nausea. After day and 2 did not need nausea meds. Drink lots of water, mine said 100 oz. My oncologist said no soy, flax and any other estrogen plants...most I don't eat so I can't remember the list...I will try to find it. She also said to avoid black cohash...herbal for hot flashes/night sweats. It is almost a relief to get started...waiting is terrible.

  • lindatwo
    lindatwo Member Posts: 122
    edited May 2015

    Hi all, I am day six from my first treatment. My hair is coming out a few strands at a time, but definitely more than normal. I haven't cut it, haven't purchased a wig, scarf, or hat yet; not sure if I'm in denial or just procrastinating. Actually I think I'm not sure if I want to get a wig or what. I've been down this road before, and did wear a wig when I was away from home. At the time I was working as an elementary school secretary and wanted to avoid the questions from parents or the kids. The wig was kind of uncomfortable & hot. The first thing I did when coming home from work was take off my shoes and wig. I know how you all feel about not wanting the pity looks or sympathy from others; but I decided last time that I didn't really have control over that, so might as well take advantage, so on occasion I would play the "C" card when necessary. People can be so much nicer and more polite! I even had the cashier from Trader Joes give me flowers. Anyhoo, back to the hair issue...I may just do the scarves and maybe a hat or two, especially now that summer is here and it is getting warm. I checked out some scarf tying tips on youtube. Guess if I don't make a decision soon I will just be going "au naturel"!

    Tomorrow is my 2nd treatment day and I am not looking forward to it. I'm hoping to have my nausea better controlled. I'm also struggling with the constipation even though I have taken very few Zofran tablets. I don't think the stool softeners are going to do the trick anymore. Today I woke up with a serious headache and was so dizzy I could barely make it to the bathroom.

    How in the world do you all manage to drink 100 oz of water a day??! I can't get near that amount down, and even if I did, I would be going to the bathroom constantly. I am wondering how much I should drink. I have only one kidney and if I drink too much my side aches. On a normal day I probably drink about 40 oz. Guess I should check with the doctor about that.

    Okay, off to bed so I can get to my bright and early appointment.


  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited May 2015

    First round is 9 hours away and I'm so anxious that I can't sleep. I took some Ativan that my PCP prescribed for me when I was first diagnosed but no success on sleep. I've had a headache for the last 6 days and I never get headaches so I'm guessing that it's from the stress.

    Lindatwo--my mom gave me a load of crap for buying a couple of hats in advance. I have an aunt that went thru BC and chemo a few years back and she didn't lose her hair but she also had CMF instead of TC so my mom thinks I'm being pessimistic instead of prepared. I'm 45 but she's lecturing me like I'm 5! Very frustrating but I'm trying to be patient with my mom because she's lost 5 of her 7 siblings to cancer (my aunt that recently had BC is related by marriage and thankfully still going strong at 82!)) and I know she's as upset about my diagnosis as I am.

    Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences--I might be ridiculously anxious about my treatment later today and even though I don't what my exact experience will be, I have a good idea of what SE's I might have and I've got some good tools in my toolbox to deal with them. And I know that this will all be done in a few short weeks.

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited May 2015

    When I asked my oncology nurse about the hair loss she said only rarely with TC does the hair stay....I half ass got a couple of hats then, yesterday as the handfuls were coming I cried and then ordered some more. Marlanab.....Good luck today. I found out that I was mentally better once I got through the first time.

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited May 2015

    Thanks, tjh! I think it's the fear of the unknown that's got me keyed up and I know you're right that I'll feel better mentally once this first round is in the books.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited May 2015

    Just dropping by to wish you all well, and easy days ahead! Try an ice pack on the back of the neck during your infusion, it always stopped my headaches before they started. Popsicles cool your mouth and throat and add liquids the easy way. And don't forget to pamper yourself along the way. Plenty of body creams, lip gloss, and a little makeup help. And cuticle oil and light buff should help your nails. I took Biotin for hair and nails, and your hair will come back. I had a haircut 5 months after Taxol. So the light is on, keep going to the end of the tunnel. You got this!

  • Magnolia83
    Magnolia83 Member Posts: 99
    edited May 2015

    Good luck today Marlanab! I think you'll find that the actual infusion itself is pretty uneventful, which is a good thing. It will feel good to get this treatment crossed off the list!

    So last night I had my boyfriend buzz my sad head of hair. It was just time. I cried, then I pouted, then I had some ice cream and felt better :) Such a weird feeling to have a shaved head! It feels drafty

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited May 2015

    thinking of you today marlanab! Let us know how it goes when you're free!

  • little-k
    little-k Member Posts: 24
    edited May 2015

    Good luck today Marlanab. My first round is tomorrow and I'm feeling the stress too. Just want to get this first one done and over with. This fear of the unknown is exhausting.

    Last night I attended a LGFB class and it was so encouraging to be surrounded by women who are at various stages of this, all sharing tips, laughing, and having a good time. It makes my first round seem a bit less daunting.

  • labhusky
    labhusky Member Posts: 177
    edited May 2015

    my session got cancelled today. The dr is adding another medicine and they didn't have any in stock. I go back tomorrow. It's the perjaba one whatever it's called along with the herceptin. Ugg, I had a sleepless night alread

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited May 2015

    Bald! My hairdresser of 15+ years did it for me this afternoon....think it upset her more than me. She then trimmed my wig a little so I'm all set. One more hurdle handled. Now I'm going to try and have a relaxing week until round 2 starts.

    Sorry to here of the delay labhusky, I can imagine how frustrating it must be when you' re psyched yourself up for it. You can handle this, but vent if you need to.

    Little-k... You can do this... Be strong.

    Hope things have gone well Marlanab

  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Member Posts: 458
    edited May 2015

    labhusky-- Perjeta is the name of the drug, a targeted therapy.

    To all those starting this week, sending good vibes. Fear of the unknown can cause sleepless nights-days. By #2 you will be the one encouraging the June chemo crew.

    My 30 min infusion of Herceptin went by quick. I didn't have a chance to pull outthe blanket or finish my 20oz. It does take time to build up to 100 oz. And yes you will be frequenting the restroom more. Start by adding an extra 4-6 ounces when you take your meds or better yet have a glass in the bathroo, a sip here and there adds up and youwill feel better.

    Mom's will be Mom's and are truly feeling helpless watching their 'babies' facing challanges. You have to do what is best for you and what you feel capable of dealing with even if it is unsolicited advice. Remember she taught us how to use a spoon, so I just use that mental image, smile and tune out.

    The steroids are going to be reduced since they increased my blood sugars. Now monitoring twice daily. I did trip out thinking diabetes not something else. A bit of perspective and dialog took time to quit catastrophizing.



  • justmaximom15
    justmaximom15 Member Posts: 264
    edited May 2015

    Back from MO and I've updated my treatment profile. My onco dx came back as intermediate risk so we're doing 4 cycles of AC followed by weekly paclitaxel x 12 ... ugh 6 months!

    I'm having my port placed next Thursday , ChemEd on Friday and begin my first infusion on June 11th.

    The scheduler at my MO is really sweet and after we got all this scheduled and printed out, at the same time we both said "here we go" which was kinda funny. Oddly enough, I think I'm ready. I just want to get it done.

  • labhusky
    labhusky Member Posts: 177
    edited May 2015

    I just worry about side effects. It's like I went thru my 1st treatment of 3 Meds and weathered it well. Now u r adding another medicine? R U CRAZY? I guess worrying though to this extent is normal under our circumstances. Finally I can worry w/o my mom saying I worry too much. I too don't think she would go thru all she could if she ever got cancer. She is in a nursing home because she wouldn't take care of herself when she was RX with type 1 diabetes in her 50's. In a way I cut the strings and couldn't take her demeaning attitude twd me. We argued a lot but I'd drive her to get groceries once and she slapped me in the face while I was driving. I was the strong one of my family also handling it when my brother was in the hospital after a bad auto accident, comatose. She couldn't handle it. He got better luckily although he does have A TBI thing and his thinking is slow. But at least he got me to the hospital with mastectomy, biopsy, and port placement. I sadly don't talk and see my mom because I don't think I could handle it. Sorry about the rant! I put myself last till I broke away from her. I kind of think she liked it that way

  • sharapril1021
    sharapril1021 Member Posts: 42
    edited May 2015

    CatsRus - I am ER/PR + which I wonder why my MO didn't tell me about the "no soy". Thank you - tjh - for the stool softener/laxative that I have added to my list. If you can find the list of things not to eat, great! Regarding taking Claritin, I thought it was before I do the Taxol round of chemo but I should take it before I get the Neulasta shot? I have to admit that the waiting is making me nuts but I try to distract myself by not thinking about it. Could anyone recommend any good books they read during treatment. My husband got my Kindle fixed so I will have that as well as my laptop with me for movies and Facebook. I really appreciate these boards because it's giving me some relief that most of you haven't had major side effects. That's what I worry about the most because I don't want my kids to get upset if they see that I am really sick from it. I worry about how my son will react. He is on the autism spectrum and when things are difficult for him his anxiety builds. My husband and I have explained to both him and my daughter that even though I look well now and doing things with them, that may not be the case when I start treatment. I don't think they fully understand what lies ahead but I plan on doing my best not to get them upset.

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited May 2015

    imagerosesrx --thanks for the reminder about moms.

    Thanks to all for the well wishes. I'm sitting in the chair, just finished the steroid and about 1/2 way through the cytoxan already. My heart rate was 134 so needless to say, I was really nervous. On the upside, the infusions are cranking!

    I'm wearing my talisman on my watch that a friend brought me and wrapped in a prayer shawl made by my cousin's church.


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  • rosesrx
    rosesrx Member Posts: 458
    edited May 2015

    labhusky---rant away! It is so difficult without the support of family. I too have had to sever toxic relationships for my own well being. It is so hard to put myself first and thus a therapist is in the picture to help me cope with the anger and guilt as I come to accept the loss of these relationships. and what will never be.

    Sharpril--you are on the steep part of the learning curve. There ae so many areas so don't feel you should know it all. It is easier for me to learn about the different topics as they come up, so one day or week it may be nutrition, exercise, hair, chemo, radiation, supplements, genetics and the list goes on or then again you can let the experts be the experts. What works for you is ok. If you feel you are on info overload you probably are!

    Justmaximom---At time the next 2 weeks will fly and other times it will drag. Sounds like you have a busy wee. Try to find some fun things to do.

    Catsrus----did you trat yourself to some ice cream? I check the drain, pillow and brush daily. I asked my friend if the clippers still worked because I only have a week or so. Good nees the wig is in and I will pick up tomorrow and get it trimmed if needed.

    To all that bid farewell to their locks this week thank you for sharing. ambivalence,, denial, acceptance, sadness, it does make it so real and public. Such a personal decision.

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited May 2015

    Not ice cream, rosesrx, chocolate covered Hobnob cookies (imported from UK) - horribly expensive here in Canada but oh so yummy for a 'special occasion'.

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited May 2015


    Charapril - Start taking Clariton the day you get the Nulasta shot. Mine is 24 hour release, so I take one same time every day. You will have nausea meds in the IV, but I started Zofran the next morning and set my click for every 7 hours, round the clock to take one. I did not stop until day 9. Not sure when to stop - no one told me.i did go every 12.hours days 5 - 9. It worked, so I plan to do it again.

    Changed my hair appointment from Saturday to tomorrow morning. Once the hair starts to come out.......it really comes out! Bye-bye hair! One more step to the end of the tunnel


  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited May 2015

    Gonna be frozen yogurt for me!

  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited May 2015

    First round down. Feeling pretty good so far--a little giddy and a slightly warm. I drank 32 oz of water before and 64 oz during. My otter pops defrosted in my cooler--may have to half freeze my water next time or add more ice packs. I just ate a chicken salad sandwich with no problem. No nausea yet but theygave me 2 zofran at 1:30 PST and it's just after 6 now.

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited May 2015

    glad you got #1 down marlanab!

    Getting mentally ready for AC #2 tomorrow. Dry ice is ready for the cold caps and now just need to put together some snacks and stuff. I'm assuming my big shed of hair is coming in the next few days but I'm on Day 14 and not much so far. I've heard its usually what...Day 16-18? *sigh*

  • lman
    lman Member Posts: 22
    edited May 2015

    Day 17 and had hubby shave my head tonight. Couldn't handle the hair loss. Daughter picked out a new hat for me to wear and I'm going out for lunch tomorrow. Rash Is still covering my torso.. will see what the doctor says tomorrow.

  • perky2020
    perky2020 Member Posts: 64
    edited May 2015
    Just joining the group. Had my first infusion today. I feel a bit off but was able to make dinner and go for a long walk with a girlfriend. 100 oz of water is a lot!
  • lindatwo
    lindatwo Member Posts: 122
    edited May 2015

    labhusky - I am so sorry that you are having to go through all of this without the support of family; especially your mom. this journey is hard enough without the added stress of family issues.

    sharapril - When I asked my MO about soy, he had just returned from a medical symposium where they talked about soy, and he said I didn't have to totally avoid soy, just don't go crazy eating it. So I switched from soy milk to almond milk, but don't worry about eating veggie burgers or other things with soy occasionally. As far as books go, I read "Half Broke Horses" and "The Glass Castle" both by Jeannette Walls. I loved them both. I read two books about cancer, both by Lynn Eib. I can't remember the titles (Facing Cancer Without Fear?) but they were helpful. I think I read "The Help" also read "Looking for Salvation at the Dairy Queen" which is by Susan Gregg Gilmore. It was funny and kind of light.

    I bought two scarves today and my daughter bought me a soft hat and made appointments with our hairdresser for next Tuesday, so I feel at least prepared for the inevitable. Just thinking about the shave drove me to the freezer for some frozen yogurt. (why wait?) Blue Bunny Bordeaux Cherry Chocolate. Hey, it's all natural! and yummy on some made-from-scratch chewy chocolate brownies. Just gotta make sure I save enough for Tuesday.

    Steflove - Since you are using the coldcaps, maybe you won't lose your hair!? I'm interested to see if it works.

    marlanab - Glad your infusion today went well.....yay! one less you have to deal with. I notice you live in Ventura. I know there is another woman, Romansma, on one of the other threads (bone mets I think) who lives in Ventura also. I grew up in Port Hueneme and El Rio, and my son was born in Ventura.

    Got to my MO's office for my 2nd infusion today and my white blood count has tanked! The doctor was almost as disappointed as I was. He was very surprised that only one treatment caused this. So, he lowered the dosage and went ahead with today's infusion. Next week I have to go in on Wednesday and get a CBC and Neupogen if necessary before Thursday's infusion. He says we may have to do two weeks on and one week off instead of three on and one off. I had this problem with Gemzar, hoped this one would be better.


  • MarlanaB
    MarlanaB Member Posts: 292
    edited May 2015

    lindatwo--small world! I was born and raised in Ventura, but have lots of family in Oxnard/Hueneme. I also work in "The 'Nard". Sorry to hear about your WBC count but it sounds like your MO has a contingency plan.

    Perky2020--Wednesday was my 1st one, too. Luckily, I had been reading the boards for about 10 days prior so I was forewarned about the water and I've been building up to it. I think I may have gone a little overboard as I had 100 down before the end of my treatment and I'm at 150 now. I've supplemented some electrolytes to try to keep those in balance but the only SE's that I'm noticing at 12+ hours is a slight headache and a minor tingling in the tip of my tongue.

  • StefLove
    StefLove Member Posts: 322
    edited May 2015

    lindatwo, that's what I'm hoping with the caps! It's not as successful for people on AC, which is what I'm doing. But I figured it's worth a shot bc I've seen women on this board that it's worked. I'll def lose some hair but hoping it isn't too extreme. The first big shed will still happen in the next few days! I'll be taking photos throughout so I'll post if it works

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited May 2015

    If one more person says "It will grow back" or "You look cute in short hair" I may have to scream. I not sure what if will have left when I have it shaved tomorrow.

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited May 2015

    oops. sorry tjh, I'm guilty of 'typing' that.... but I totally get what you mean and I won't 'say' it again.

    I wore my wig for several hours yesterday and it felt pretty good. I was worried it would irritate me or would get really hot. Haven't seen anyone I know though yet so I will be interested to see their reaction

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited May 2015

    It is so different when I say it or we say it here...we are all in the boat together. But when others say it, or tell me they understand...it is driving me nuts. I guess I am venting...I might have a "a little stress" in my life at the moment and am venting.

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