broccoli and culifkowers are supposed to be very helpful for Er Pr positive BC

DIM I3C are also good for that.

I've been taking Them since March and still don't have my period. I had to stop tamoxifen because of edema.

Aromatase inhibitors do not just lower oestrogen, they actively block your body taking it up, a different process..............I am no fan of them but every naturopath I have spoken to ahs said there is nothing natural that does the job as well..............I really don´t know myself, the prospect of 10 years on Exemestane is not one I like.........

http://www.anticancerbook.com/post/Turmeric-and-bl...

A doctor I respected tremendously

So how do you guys decide who to trust? All info seems reliable. Kind of wishy-washy though. I'm really "stuck" with turmeric. I don't want to miss out, but more importantly, don't want to make things worse.

One study went so far as to actually say "turmeric is an excellent way to fight breast cancer" and in the same paragraph "use with caution for any reproductive hormone cancers such as breast or ovarian". What??? Not joking!...hysterical but completely stupid. I assume they mean er/pr+ bc, but seriously.

Regarding curcumin, I remember reading somewhere it is not good to take it while taking Tamoxifen because it interacts with it. I do not know about AI. I use it in my food combining it with black pepper. I am currently taking anastozole.

Hello all ladies;

The clinical evidence is-that Indol 3 carbinal, a powerful broccoli supplement is just as good as AL. However with measuring your estrogen levels this must be done to see it works for you. I must add Iam still taking armirmedex but split the does eavery other day and i use I 3C. also flax seed but not flax oil helps fight Bc when used in tandum with tamoxifen. use the research is there but again my estrogen levels did not prove this out.( falx seed oil raised my estrogen) I m still on arimdiex but use tumeric, and also boswellia ( frankincense) . Bot hare currently in special studies as they seem to fight all cancers. I found this out on the NIH websites and have volumes of research and small studies.

hope this helps. I am stage 4 lost use of the right hand. but still here after a brain tumor 3.5 years going. So there is something to supplements. Hope this helps!

MarciaM

hello there, so did you do your journey naturally? I want to know

MarciaM,

What brand of frankincense are you using and how and where do you apply it? I have heard good things about it.

Hello all dear Ladies;

I used frankincense oil label Boswellia Seratta organic essential oil, New Directions Aromatics. You now have to order 100.00 shipment. But for us Mets woman its a lifetime supply and a lifeline both. Dr .Siu online is doing studies on rats with BC and find it works well. No I did nto do al lnatural, i am a vegan ndn juicer too. I went thru traditional treatment which was the only thing Ifelt might work for me. and it did not really work, as I ended up with a brain tumor. So after the tumor removal and small amount of rads I triend to all natural with the exception of arimidex. I believe whatever causes the least harm, and most benefit. Do your research and if you are too stressed out to then send a private message and I'll help you go thru the list the natural path gave me. Its long and complex, but your job is to stay alive and well. The biomat invented in Japan also shrinks tumors according to the inventor and Dr.Yoshimisu, MD. , author of

the Fourth treatment for Medical Refugees, theromotherapy in the new centruy. I use my amythyst biomat each day. it is amazing.

All I can say is get a good jucier and jiuce about a pound of carrots with mixed greens dialy. then gradually add supplements and always tell the doc what you are doing. My doctors are in complete disbelief that i am still here after almost 5 years. Not saying any one thing works. Just never give up.

I also used reiki for my journey and it helps relive stress.

bless you all,

MarciaM

Hi Pipers Dream,

Glad to hear from you. I am certified Reiki master and I do give free reiki to local cancer patients if needed. I also see clietns privately for reiki.

Reiki is a good therapy has been widely used in many studies and in hospitals and cancer institutes so whatever you did before give it a try again. The biomat is awesome for stress and I do mien with rieki. very soothing. yes it worked on my brai n tumor last year and inst to supposed to work n those things.. It dissolved whatever questionable cells and I had a normal MRI of the brain ,after having an abnormal one so just trust your feeling adn read the book about it by the MD in Japan. wish the Medical system was more optn to using this as its a superb device and does not hurt you.

Stay well dear!

Marcia M

Frankinscense is part of my everyday routine, I use it in all my natural lotions, I have one that is just Frankinscense and Grapeseed oil that I put over my scars and my whole field where they did radiation, I also put a daily blend on the bottom of my feet as well as many other blends..... I guess you could say I am an EO junkie

Hi, could someone tell me if they have had success taking DIM and/or Calcium D Gluterate? I would like to hear from someone who has taken it for years or who knows the latest information on the success and safety of these. I have left arm lymphedema and I`m afraid to take Tamoxifen. Thank you! Farmlovergrl.

The University of AZ is currently conducting a study to see if the use of DIM increases the effectiveness of Tamoxifen when combined so I guess they've decided DIM is safe enough to test on people and see what they say about its known benefits.

"valuation of Diindolylmethane Supplementation to Modulate Tamoxifen Efficacy in Breast Cancer: The Diindolylmethane (DIM) Efficacy Study

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Principal Investigator:

Cynthia Thomson, PhD, RD, CSO

Co-Investigators:

Alison Stopeck, MD (Medical Oncologist, Stony Brook University)

Patricia Thompson, PhD (Professor COPH, Stony Brook University)

Denise Roe, PhD (Biostatistician COPH, member UACC)

Sherry Chow, PhD (Associate professor- Pharmacology, member UACC)

Sponsor:

National Cancer Institute

Summary:

To date, no prospective, randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trials have been conducted to test the hypothesis that exposure to diindolylmethane (DIM), in combination with tamoxifen (TAM), can significantly modify breast cancer risk. The DIME Study tests the novel hypothesis that DIM will demonstrate an enhanced efficacy of TAM by modulating the breast parenchyma to a 'low' density, 'low risk' state and alternatively by favorably modulating steroid hormone metabolism.

In fact, DIM has been shown to act on breast cancer risk through a variety of mechanisms, and as such, core breast biopsy tissue samples and blood for alternate hypotheses testing (e.g., COX-2, prolactin receptor, proliferation assays, AhR, inflammatory markers, oxidative stress, etc) are collected in the context of this trial. The recruitment portion of the study ended in September 2015. Study results will be available late 2015 to early 2016."

from: rcphp.arizona.edu/research/initiatives/dime

It will be interesting to see if they come up with anything and if DIM does increase the effectiveness of Tamoxifen, will anyone investigate whether DIM works well on its own? Probably not, since it can't be patented but any results will be interesting IMO.

After lots of research I do use both DIM and Calcium D-Glucarate instead of tamoxifen. Sorry, I have not bookmarked all the research I've done and read tons of books, but both DIM and Calcium D glucarate came up again and again as recommended to modulate estrogen. My best advice is to do you own research, consult a naturopath if possible and make a choice you can live with.