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  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited May 2015

    OMD yes understand that bond! So scarey when they are sick!!!! Hope they come home today.

  • Rosevalley
    Rosevalley Member Posts: 3,061
    edited May 2015

    I love the sound of rain on the roof too! We have a cabin and the rain on the sky light is particularly soothing.. if I leave my hearing aides in. I couldn't sleep at all last night up from 1 until 5 ugh.. I'll be a grumpus today. I took 5mg ambien too.. worthless. I find not getting enough sleep to make everything that ails you magnified by 10.

    Interesting about all the flea stuff. We were die hard advantage folks until it stopped working. Then switched to Frontline which stopped working last summer. So with cats and dogs in all the fences bordering ours and all but 2 of the 6 in and out... we had to switch. Revolution is topical and does heart worm so cheaper in the long run. Never tried Trifexis.. on the dogs. I will ask about it. I never heard of Activyl either. Let me know if it works. We need to keep one step ahead of the fleas! Praying your dogs just have a tummy flu and will be fine.

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Member Posts: 11,162
    edited May 2015

    mags - hoping your fur babies come home well today

    Chevy - whet sn awesome friend you are. Glad to hear Theresa is doing better

    Hugs all around

    Hootie hoo

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited May 2015

    Mag, good news indeed! Hoping your babies get to come home today so you can spoil them.

    The clouds came in, the winds picked up, then...............nothing. What a tease. We were supposed to get rain. Oh how I love the sound of raindrops on the roof or against the window especially at night. Love thunder and lightning too. There is just something majestic about it.

    What is going on with the allergies in pets too? We have so many kids with allergies and now it seems like pets get them too! My other younger Sis has to give her 2 dogs special food also- Natural Balance LID Bison and sweet potato.

    Ms Chevy, good to hear that Ms.Theresa is doing much better. I love to chat with people of advanced age because they have so much wisdom and history to share. Ms. Carol has two things against her- it is not just the disrupted communication between her brain and body, but also the muscle dystrophy or weakness. I think it is good she gets to go home with 24 hour care. I hope that they continue to work with her daily to get her to the point of independence.

    Yes I remember Rosie. Is she making Vietnamese spring rolls with peanut sauce dip? Yum. How are her eyes?

    Jazzy, I like Ray Obiedo. Thanks for the introduction! Will add him on pandora list.

    Goats, thank you. So you have heard about Keflex causing tinnitus? 30 out of 5492 people get tinnitus in a study. That is only .55%! Lucky me.

    Patty, good to hear you hooting.

    Has anyone heard from Mommyof2?

    Hi1, happy moving. Wish you minimal stress.

    MammaRay, hope things get better.

    Lucy must be in dreamland now.....thanks to the rain

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2015


    Chevy, Check in with son. Carol is eligible for rehab as long as she's making progress. Is she on Medicare? Medicare covers 21 days. Most places now have a stroke team evaluation in the hospital. Neurologist, speech therapy, medical doc, social worker, occupational therapist, and physical therapy. Each writes there portion of the report. The only way she wouldn't be eligible is if she wasn't making progress. That's not what you are describing.

    She will not make rehab progress at home the same as she will in a facility with all the services. I encourage you to have the son be more proactive(pushy) about placement. Even if they have 24 care set up, it can be changed.  Too important to Carol. He needs to voice his concern today. Once she's home, it'll be difficult to get her into a facility. It can be done, but again it's more difficult.

    Chevy I can't call phones out. You've trusted me on other stuff. Carol has a chance to reach her highest level of function by going to a rehab center. Tell son to ask if the have a special rehab hospital in your area. If one's available that's number one choice. If it's a nursing home and rehab facilty that's second choice.

    Plus at a rehab hospital if the patient is documented to be making progress, they can certify for more time that Medicare will cover. Not sure if standard nursing home/ rehab combo places can do it. Pretty sure they can't. The rehab hospitals have different docs------

    Cut and paste this post to him :)

    Chevy is she in rehab or the hospital? I can't tell from the posts. They start rehab in the hospital, then it's continued at rehab.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2015

    Chevy you can ask son about discharge plan to home. The usual is discharge is with Homehealth---with that she will get a nurse for episodic visits, physical therapy, occupational therapy ---this is covered by Medicare. Standard discharge plan. Since she has 24 coverage a nursing assistant likely won't be requested by the nurse. The nurse can certify for 8 weeks and then recertify if necessary. Doctor actual signs the order, but it's the nurse making the recommendation. It's involved --details irrelevant. The 24 hour coverage is usually private pay --meaning the family/ patient is paying for that. Medicare doesn't cover that b/c it isn't skilled care.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2015


    Mags, Happy dance :) YAY. You likely missed the post----save their dog food, but don't feed them any of it. Call the 800 number on the can or bag, they will do a 20 question thing. They are required by law to track problems like this. EVEN if the vet can't definitely say what caused this. They in turn have to report it up the chain. Remember the China problem----this is how it was found out b/c of reports that then indicated it was spread over many states.

    Mags I had two dogs go through this, but we knew it was the food. Pedigree. It was before the China thing, but most people know what happened with that. BTW the company may ask for you to send the food. Refuse---it's evidence.

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited May 2015
  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2015


    JAZZY____YOU ARE SO RIGHT

    Jazzzy, I did take care of DH way back when 2010.  I remember talking to them and getting all the credit reports. I sent the death certificate so many places. That was the piece I couldn't remember, if I sent it to them. It was a pITA getting through to all of them. I'm glad you brought it up. Thanks

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited May 2015

    Same here Jazzy!

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited May 2015

    Ms. Sass, so grateful for your knowledge and willingness to help others. Sounds like Ms. Carol is a fighter and has shown improvement. It would be ashamed if she didn't get the help.

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  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2015

    I just talked to Chevy. Carol is in a rehab facility. Her son already got her another week. Carol has Medicare and Goodyear 2ndary. I suggested that he work on at least another week. The two keys too getting more time beyond the Medicare 21 day limit is 1. is the patient making progress 2. is the patient making the effort. If the patient plateaus they are actually required to discharge . If the patient isn't making an effort they are required to discharge. So, maybe he can get her another week. Generally facilities have a conference once a week to decide about each patient and what the plan is. If he want's to get it extended beyond Wed next he has to catch them before that meeting.

    Just as an FYI. Check your local areas for hospitals that are listed as Rehab Hospital. This is the name of the one in my county "HealthSouth Sea Pines Rehabilitation Hospital". They specialize in stroke and spinal cord injuries, but they do take other patients. The importance of knowing about these facilities are probably too numerous to describe. Because they are credentialed as a hospital they have laboratories, imaging, pharmacies.  For example, someone needing labs monitored because they are anemic---the lab is drawn and completed right there versus being sent out. If the person then needs blood they can be given it versus having to be sent back to the other hospital. It's Marvelous. That's a small example.

    If you or a family/friend have a need for rehab, the primary hospital social worker making arrangements may not necessarily tell you that the rehab hospital is available, even though you meet the criteria for admission to that rehab hospital. By knowing what's available in your area can allow you to request that request for review be sent to the facility. They can't refuse. Medicare covers them if patient meets the criteria. Non-Medicare Insurance is different, but not out of the question until you work the ropes.

    I insisted on Sea Pines when my Mom was ill in 1995. Sea Pines was more than an hour away. It more than lived up to it's reputation. So worth the distance. Light years above local facilities.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited May 2015

    Hi gals... back from lunch! Rosie fixed up our favorite stuff! A big platter of rice noodles, (either bean or rice vermicelli) with scallions, green leaf lettuce, lots of sweet Basil, and Cilantro, sliced cucumbers and blanched bean sprouts.... You can pile all that on the lettuce, but easier to eat in a bowl, with her home-made "fish-sauce"! So good! Also shredded carrots and radishes.... And Loverly.... The peanut-sauce!.... We didn't have the Spring Roll rice wraps.... just put everything in the lettuce leaves.... or eat it like a salad....

    She fixed some shrimp tempura things.... along with marinated skewered chicken pieces.... for the shimp sauce...

    Loverly, she came from Cam Rohn Bay.... Her name is Vothi-Twyet-Hong.... ?? I think.... she wrote it down, but now I'm not sure...

    That is her Dad's name, then her Mom's, and hers.... meaning "snow-rose".

    So we have known her as Rosie... for over 35 years. She thinks she is 60 or 62.... Our "other Daughter from another Mother".... image

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61UYPb9SZS4

    She just had her eyes "fixed.".... Her lids were coming down over her eyes, and getting harder for her to see, especially from the sides.... she looks the same, but she can see better....

    Thanks Jazzy.... Yes, she really wants to go home.... her care will continue, and her rehab.... It HAS to.... She is just stuck in her wheel-chair right now....

    And Lil-goats.... Yes, Theresa says she still "talks" to him.... and when she passes his room, where he was, she misses him going down to meals with her.... they had separate rooms, because he went there first, but then Theresa went there about 2 months later.... So she does miss him, but is doing okay... 70 years together.... that is amazing.

    Mags..... so glad they are doing better! Maybe it was something like our dog got into? At least the Vet got it fixed! Find out what the Vet is feeding them....

    Rosie, you sleep with your hearing aids IN???? I can hear the rain if I go out in it.... Ha! Same with Thunder.... We have an up-stairs, so the only way I can hear the rain is to go out in it, or go in our garage, with the corrugated tin roof.... THEN it sounds so nice! I still want to run with my Daughter in the rain.... On the lawn.... it just sounds fun!

    Spookie.... that is so true, about that bonding.... It's hard to explain how I was with Lacee.... just that she was "my girl"......

    Sass, thank you for the post and the call! Actually I don't know if she is making progress.... I'm just going by what Mike says, but I still don't see her standing, or any more movement on her right side.... As far as her speech, that hasn't changed.... but they HAVE to fix her, right?

    So yes, she is in a rehab center...care center....

    http://colavria.com/communities/the-rehabilitation-center-at-sandalwood/

    And yes, I know it will be mostly private pay..... But like he said, they can afford it.... She can't go to the bathroom alone yet.... If she could just get on her feet before they release her.... but I don't know..... But she lives alone..... If she was MY sister, or relative, I would feel better asking Mike WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING WITH HER... but like I said, I don't know him well enough.... to offer any suggestions....

    Okay.... soooooooo cold here.... have the heat on again... and got the tomatoes covered up yet AGAIN! Lots of rain expected tonight....

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2015

    Schatzi leaned on the wall phone line plug and broke it. I lost internet and phone. I got internet back after playing with all the lines--not easy under the table. I was on the way to the store to get a part and lo and behold there was the cable guy a few houses down. He gave me some clues--I got the phone back on line YAY.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited May 2015

    Darn dog!!! Give her an extra smooch and tell her you still love her. Thought you were getting a new cell? With Internet

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited May 2015

    Wow Ms. Sass, you are a Jill of all trades? Haha. Good for you!


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2015

    Loveroflife---desperation is the mother of invention? No phone, No internet.... It's all cable bundled. I did get cable fixed, but I couldn't call the cable company to fix the phone.... That's why it was very cool..... I see the cable truck and the cable guy right at the moment I need a cable guy problem solver. Can't get better than that, plus I learned stuff.

    Spookie, DS is in the process of getting a new phone. But I screwed up. I forgot, forgot--------BIG forgetting. On that old phone is a voice message from Greg...The last voice message. I've saved it for five years. Every time I think to tell or ask Ds about the old phone, I can't get through or leave a message to tell him not to get rid of the phone.------whew he just called,I asked about the phone, he said he had it. I told him what I just told you. Then he's silent, and then says he doesn't know where the phone is............fiddlesticks, the exact thing I didn't want to happen ---happened. Bugger. If he'd said the phone was gone, I wouldn't have told him about the voice message. Bugger.


     

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited May 2015

    Cam Ranh Bay is south of Nha Trang, where my dad grew up. Oh ok I think I know what you had for lunch. It is one of my favorite dish too. Some people have it with grill fish instead of chicken. It just depends on your preference. If you are adventurous, you can try the wrap with Mam Nem which is a fermented fish sauce. It's delicious if the cook knows how to prepare it with premium ingredients,otherwise it stinks like heck. Did she come before 1975 or after the fall of Sai Gon? Tuyet Hong can also be translated as pink snow. I think I like snow rose better. It sounds more exotic and happier than pink snow. I am glad you at least had a good time at Rosie's despite the lousy weather.

  • Nettie1964
    Nettie1964 Member Posts: 759
    edited May 2015

    I'm still around. Still in crappie marriage, but living life and enjoying grandkids.

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited May 2015

    Hi Nettie- thank you for the nice picture. I am glad you are enjoying your grandchildren. I am sorry about the rest. Men certainly do suck sometimes.


  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited June 2015

    Nettie,

    I'm so pleased that you've returned from a 5 month time out from this thread. I missed your chitchat and photos!!

    Looking rested and cheerful. The grandkids must be such a joy.

  • blondiex46
    blondiex46 Member Posts: 5,712
    edited May 2015

    Hi nettie, lookin good

    Hey peeps whats shakin this weekend 

  • Rosevalley
    Rosevalley Member Posts: 3,061
    edited May 2015

    Loverof life- Maybe you can answer this for me. When we adopted our oldest DD from an orphange in CanTho we were told her name "Thuy Tien" meant "water angel "or "water fairy." Then after we got state side there was discussion that her name was an old fashioned water flower. The funny thing is this kid has never had any fear of water and swims like a fish. Fitting name for her. What do you think Thuy Tien means? My DD loves spicy food and anything seafood, she loves fish sauce.

    Howdy all! Have a great weekend! Hi Nettie cute photo.

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Member Posts: 11,162
    edited May 2015

    Nettie. - glad to see you. Love the new pic.

    Blondie. - hey there u still up I see

    I am up can't get to sleep. Thinking a long hot bath might help.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited May 2015

    Hi Nettie!

    Hey Rose, you adopted one of my peeps! Bless your heart. "Thuy Tien" means water goddess/fairy/angel or it can also mean a flower from the family of narcissus or crocus. Now, if she loves water, Water Angel fits her perfectly. Isn't she the one who buried her face in roses to smell themwhen she was little? Hahaha fish sauce to the Vietnamese is like butter to the French. She likes seafoods and spicy dishes.We can get along.

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited May 2015

    Blondie- going to Santa Fe Sunday and Monday but reading it may be raining both days up there. Ugh, so much for pool time.

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited May 2015
  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited May 2015

    Loverly......yes, it was Mam Nem! She had shown me years ago how to make it, and I love it.... A little fish sauce, vinegar, sugar, diced jalapeno peppers and water... Is that how you make it? I like it over any kind of salad...

    Rosie was told to leave her house when she was little. So she was wandering the streets, and a military man adopted her, as his Daughter... He helped her leave Viet Nam alone, and was sent to her new family here, but first to NY... all alone, until she was finally picked up, and taken to her home....

    This was before the fall of Sai Gon... I think she said 1972.... "Pink Snow"? Yes, that is beautiful too... It's amazing that either one of you have come so far! To a new land, and learn the language!

    I have to make another jar of Mam Nem... And just keep the peppers out, and add when needed, because they sort of "get soft" after keeping in the liquid... But I keep it for a couple weeks... Ha!

    And every dish has to have LOTS of sweet basil, and cilantro!!!!!!

    Have you ever made Congee? That is that creamy rice dish from Thailand. Carol, my friend, had that a lot when she traveled to those cities... Just rice, lots of water, fresh chopped ginger, scallions or onions, and cook the dickens out of it for about 4 hours.... REAL creamy! Some use chicken broth, but I just use bouillon and then an egg drizzled across the simmering "soup" and stir it slightly, to let set, and it's ready to eat.

    She said they can eat it at every meal... She bought it from a boat-vendor that came up along-side their larger boat... and tasted it fresh! So now it's one of the things that I love to fix!

    I sound like Julia Childs.... Ha!

    Nettie! I love your hair color! It is lighter now, right? Can't you kick that man out to the curb? Find him another partner and kiss his butt good-by!

    TEKA!!! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN MISS MISSY??? YOU should talk! You have been amiss also! We have new girls now.... you have to act interested and respectable.... well maybe not the last one....

    Rosie! You are such a sweetie! Loverly will know... How old is your Daughter now? I know you said once, but I forgot!

    Oh never mind.... She DOES know.... Ha!

    One of our Doctors from years ago went to China, and brought home their first little girl.... THEN they got another one.... You folks are all guardian-angels.... ! Do you make your own Mam Nem? It's so easy.... and I keep it in a salad-dressing jar!

    Yes Jazzy, if it is anything like here, it is damn raining again! It's a wonder I just don't mold.

    BUT, it sure looks green out.... Ha!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited May 2015
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