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  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2015

    SweetHope:

    I am now 9 weeks PFC and I saw my MO before my Herceptin only infusion this morning. She said all the joint and body pain is from leftover chemo namely Taxotere. I agree morning tasks lead to a nap in the afternoon. This may be a dumb question but why can't you swim after rads ? I guess I didn't know better but in 2006 after LX with rads to left side I swam all summer. I was younger but I can't remember anyone telling me I couldn't.

    PMR53

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited May 2015

    PMR, I read not to swim during rads because the chlorine would dry out the skin. Did you have any issues with Rads in 2006?

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited May 2015

    SweetHope, thank you for the encouragement. And you are right my mind is saying keep going you only have 3 more to go but my body is saying no, stop just let me be, leave me alone..... lol.

    The sad thing is people that are not on this post board do not understand. I wonder if the MO doctors and nurses really understand. I mean they talk with the patients on a daily basis and they witness the side effects on a daily basis and they study the charts and scientific studies but do they really understand? SweetHope, enjoy painting that ya-ya chair.

    I think I was also told not to swim during radiation because the clorine will dry out the skin more.

    Has anyone heard from Brandi, cherylfg, Tennisfan, and anyone else I may be forgetting? I am sorry if I am forgetting anyone.

    Have a good night ladies.

  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2015

    Sweethope and Momma- I swam in the lake, we live surrounded by Lakes. No trouble with rads except at the end a sunburn like red area. I applied a cream they gave me. I also put Solarcaine on for stinging pain.

    How is Brandi and Tennisfan? Hope you guys are okay. I am thinking of you.

    Lumpectomy Friday. Uggggg.

    Cleaning today. Celebrating my daughters 23 birthday tomorrow!

    Love and hugs 🙏😄

    PMR53

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited May 2015

    PMR53 - good luck with your surgery Friday! It will be great to get that over with, right? Sending happy birthday wishes to your daughter!!

    Mommacat4 - I don't think the doctors or nurses understand. I'm sure they can empathize but you can't understand this unless you experience first hand, maybe?

    I hope all those not posting are doing well!! Maybe it is treatment fatigue?? I feel like that right now. I have 8 rads left to do which is great but I am tired of heading out every day. I would rather focus on getting better instead of getting worse for now. Radiation is going well but I started to get a bit red and sore this weekend. I know ii gets worse up to 2 weeks after TX is done so it is sort of looming over me I feel. I also am still struggling with aches/pains from Taxotere. I hear some people call it an easy chemo but it sure beat the crap out of me! I have big knots in the muscles of my lower and upper legs that I think happened because I was walking so bad for a couple of months. I have a big styrofoam roll that I use to basically roll out my lumps....sounds funny but boy does it work.

    On a positive note, I am enjoying my puppy company! She has her moments but is mostly a very good dog. Actually heading out now to take her to the vet. We will see how much she enjoys my company for the rest of the day!

    Wishing everyone a good day!


    Wendy


  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2015

    RV6Gal

    Hang in there! Sounds like you are almost done with Rads!! It does feel like a bad sunburn at the end, your done with Surgery, chemo and Rads? Thank goodness!! I am sick and tired of being sick and tired!! My MO said yesterday Taxotere is the cause of all the joint pain. I can't imagine starting the hormone drug that does the same!! Supposed to later after surgery. Just finished Birthday shopping and wrapping for my sweet daughter. Warm here! Almost 80 degrees! Thank you for the support. Dreading Friday but also want it to be over!

    PMR53



  • Tennisfan
    Tennisfan Member Posts: 114
    edited May 2015

    Bonsoir lovely ladies and sorry for being MIA for such a long time!

    It all started with a great friend of mine coming to visit for the weekend. Then the weather turned so fabulous that I felt more alive than ever. One night, dressed like in the middle of summer, I got rained on, with cold, icy rain from a huge rain curtain. This is also the weekend I had decided that it was too hot for wearing a mask in the subway. Well... I caught the cold of the century. A man's cold lol. The kind that feels like razorblades in the throat :0( I walked into work last Monday, and decided to leave by noon - now that would be a first for me!!!

    So I spent last week on my couch, and lost sleep over the fact that I was scared to be told to postpone my Taxol on friday. By I am not sure what kind of miracle they said I was still ok so it all went up from there :0))). I was of course also upset about missing tennis, and my mood is never the best when I miss tennis lol...

    Like some of you I have also managed to get my steroids down by half - even with a sleeping pill, I was going to bed at 4 am every friday night, i.e., saturday morning... I am now working on getting the Benadryl cut in half or removed entirely but they won't budge.

    In a way the Benadryl is a blessing because I always go to the hospital for the earliest treatment space available, 8 am so they are on time for sure by then. Since I am not a morning person I am happy to catch up on sleep a little. I have had to resort to a trick since I started Taxol because a super nice, old gentleman, Eddie, who is a volunteer, loves to come and cheer me up... typically when I start feeling like sleeping a bit and not in any particular need of a cheer. So now I get there, pull the blanket over my head and just sleep during the 2.5 hours of treatment. I make sure to say goodbye to Eddie before I leave, it makes him happy and he is very sweet lol. Am I mean or what ?!?!?

    For the AC part I had convinced myself to take sleeping pills (zopiclone, helps you fall asleep and not addictive says my doctor) only during worknights. I sort of fought my way through weekends but now that the Taxol infusions are weekly, I just gave up and decided to go with the flow and take them pills until I am done - this week is actually Taxol week 6 - so 6 more to go.

    Also had my rads consultation last week and came out very encouraged, while I went in with a bit of fear about long term effects. So as with AC & T, I can't wait to start, to be finished finally!!!

    I too have white peach fuzz growing back (well by now it's long peach fuzz). I followed Beachbum's advice and am taking Biotin daily, in addition to L-Glutamine, B1, B6 and B12 (thank you Kristin, no neuropathy so far, except in my lower back, following the first Taxol).

    I am not exactly pleased with the white, and people are quite surprised as I never died my hair before. I had a bit of salt in the pepper but nothing I wasn't proud of lol. Now taking a page from Wendy's book I also threw my wig out of the window, after sweating through a 30 Celsius weekend. Funnily enough I have never had so many compliments about my head than when I decided to show up bald in the office. I was already doing it during weekends and met one of my employees on the street, going to a charity fundraiser the other night. So it broke the ice nicely...

    Bon, so thank you to the ladies for your concern, but I promise that all in all I am really doing well. I totally hear you when you say that this is getting s little long... And at the same time weeks are going by so fast I am scared to be gone through summer just counting down Taxol and rads weeks SIGH

    I have decided to opt for dragging myself to rads every morning at 7, in the hope that I can still work through it. I have plenty of time to think it thru as I am stating only in August... Maybe I'll change my mind by then and will want to leave work early to go to the appointments... But I hate the wait so I'd rather go first thing in the morning and not wait, I think.

    Finally I have now tried to fix my email alert several times but although it says it is on, I am not getting your posts thru email as they are published. So I missed a lot on things to congratulate you with, but certainly remember to congratulate Beachbum for being done with rads and a treatment-free summer!!! And Cat's daughter's graduation, and Jenn still dancing, and Wendy being halfway done rads!!!

    Sorry for the mini-novel and have a good night, lovely BC sisters!

    Marjo(rie) aka Tennisfan

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited May 2015

    Pmr53, if I understood your message correctly it sounds like your daughters birthday is on May 20th. This is also my mom's birthday. Or was my mom's birthday. She passed away last June. I miss her horribly however I am glad she isn't here to watch me go through all this cancer and treatments for it. My mom was 75 when she passed and she was physically disabled and lived in a group home for the elderly. She had a ton of medical issues including dementia onset. I provided for her and took her to all her appointments. When she went to the hospital I stayed about 20 hours a day with her. ( I had to come home and shower and kiss my kids ) otherwise I would have stayed all 24 hours a day with her. Either way I am glad she doesn't have to watch me go through all this stuff.

    I hope your daughter had a wonderful 23rd birthday. Have a good night


  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited May 2015

    Tennisfan, I am so sorry that tennis is waiting on you for now, but so happy that you are getting rest on the couch. Colds can linger a long time, and you need all the rest you can get to get well. Take the meds, and sleep, coming back from all this is a slow go for a reason. You need to repair and gain strength. For me rads produced a large amount of fatigue, but I am feeling great right now. But the feeling of having all that in the rear view mirror has changed my outlook, see the possible! I had 33 rads, and felt like it would never end, it did and I never felt so good to walk out the door! But you still need to rest, I finished 8 weeks ago. I am so happy that your chemo portion will soon be over.


    But I am now done, all of my scans are great, and I am now a member of the LiveStrong Y program. And tonight I am going to a Ladies Night Out sponsored by the Cleveland Clinic. I will be joining my beloved friends that I met at rads. For all of us here, or friends we met during treatment, something wonderful does happen, we meet the best women in the world, and you are one of them! And I will be waiting to join all of you at the rads finish line!

  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2015

    MommaCat

    Yesterday was my daughters birthday 23!! She has been a big support through all this BS. Bless you for taking care of your Mom when she needed you most. I am sure you were a great support and we all know this is what we need when we or our family members are sick. My Mom is 80 and I know it breaks her heart to see me go through this. She is always there for our family. My LX is tomorrow and she is going to help with dinners and whatever else we need. She is a 10 year BC survivor. She had chemo and Rads 2005.

    Beachbum- I am so glad you made it over the finish line. I hope to join you for a summer break soon. Done with chemo except for herceptin. LX tomorrow. Praying for clean margins. No Rads. MX with reconstruction in fall. My recent infection changed the whole game plan. I guess God has is own plan. Not sure what it is yet.

    Love to all.

    PMR53

  • Brandi999
    Brandi999 Member Posts: 143
    edited May 2015

    Hi everyone... just checking in real fast before I collapse. I had my surgery last Wednesday. Something went wrong though I'm not totally sure what. I lost a lot of blood. I know that. My blood pressure was horribly low for several days. I'm in a lot of pain. I have to walk around hunched over and it kills my back. When I'm not in pain I feel nauseous.... like way more than when I was on chemo. I spend hours upon hours feeling pain and nausea. I also feel like I am wearing a corset 2 sizes too small so it makes it hard to breathe. I have been getting panic attacks and crying a lot. Mostly I cry because I'm sick and tired of feeling tortured. I'm tired of pain. Tired of nausea. Tired of going through crap month after month after month. Just tired. They took out 12 lymph nodes and found 3 with cancer. They made one of my boobs bigger in anticipation of me getting radiation even though I told them I didn't want to do it. I'm depressed, frustrated, tired in my soul and just want to scream but don't even have the energy to do that so I'm just going to start crying again as I right this. Just so you all know I'm still alive (yay.).

  • JazzerciseGirl
    JazzerciseGirl Member Posts: 15
    edited May 2015

    Cat: My mom died last June also. I feel so much the same way. I miss her terribly, but am grateful that she and my Dad did not have to see me go through this experience. It would have worried them beyond imagination. I was fortunate to be one of their caregivers during the last years of their lives. I came to see them as people, and friends, not just as parents. I wouldn't give up that experience for anything.

    PMR: I hope everything goes easy for you tomorrow. I'll be thinking about you. One of my margins wasn't clear the first time, but all went well the second time. My second lumpectomy was surprisingly easier than my first!

    Beachbum: Congrats on having the summer off. My chemo has been finished for about a month and I'm left with some neuropathy in my hands. I do hope it disappears soon. I start radiation on Tuesday - 16 treatments. I'm in Anaheim, CA now with my husband who is at a conference. I had never been to Disney and thought this might be a nice vacation between chemo and radiation. I was completely UNDERwhelmed! The crowds were as bad as New York City subways during rush hour, the lines were long, and the facility is old and tired. I will say that the performers are wonderful. Has anyone else felt to way?

    Although I don't post often, I read everyone's posts and am so grateful to all of you for your candid sharing and guidance.

    Cheers!

    MM


    PS. My hair has just begun coming in. It feels like a tennis ball! No eyebrows or lashes yet.

  • JazzerciseGirl
    JazzerciseGirl Member Posts: 15
    edited May 2015

    Oh, Brandi, I just saw your post. I'm so sorry and my heart goes out to you. Your feeling that it's hard to breathe doesn't sound fun. I do hope you'll call the surgeon's office about this.


    XO. MM

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited May 2015

    Brandi, That's horrible. I've read your post three times because I just wanted to figure out if it was the ALND causing all the pain or the reconstruction. Please baby yourself. Are you taking Xanax or an equivalent? It can help your pain meds be more effective. Please ask your BS.


  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited May 2015

    MM, I adore the tennis ball reference. That is a great description of what my head feels like. My hair is coming in white with a reverse skunk affect...a dark streak down the center.

    I too loved taking care of my parents in their final years. They spoiled me terribly, so I did my best to spoil them back. I know they would be very encouraging and supportive as they were very strong willed, can-do-anything types. But I think this would have broken their hearts, as cancer doesn't run in our family, and I am the first.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited May 2015

    Brandi, I am sending you a big bottomless basket of hugs, use as needed! Everyone here will see that it overflows with hugs and support forever. I am so sorry that you have so much to push through. Please call the BS and see what they can do to help you. There has to be something. Take Care, Cheryl

  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2015

    Brandi

    I sent you a private message. Hang in there. Hoping and praying you start to feel better. Nausea is the worst!

    Patty

  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2015

    Jazz thanks for the well wishes. Hope it goes smoothly. Supposed to be home tomorrow night. Glad your hair growing mine is too!!

    Patty

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited May 2015

    PMR53, I hope your surgery is smooth sailing with great results. And I hope you get a summer pass too! Cheryl

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited May 2015

    Brandi999, I am so sorry to hear you are going through all this. Make sure your surgeon knows everything you are experiencing and please please please take pain meds and nausea meds and get plenty of rest.

    One thing that helped me with my pain after surgery was bags of frozen peas. I would recline back just a little on the couch and put the bags of peas kind of under my arms. (I wrapped them in dish towels to keep them from touching any skin directly). My plastic surgeon made me sleep sitting up (like on the couch) because he didn't want the expanders to move around. I slept on the couch surrounded by pillows and slightly reclined from November through January before he gave me the all clear to actually lay down In my bed. And my beautiful little cat slept right between my legs on the couch the whole time. Lol.

    Take it easy and remember that the more you rest and sleep the better your body will heal. Take care of yourself. your bc sisters love you and we are praying for you.

  • jlstacey
    jlstacey Member Posts: 277
    edited May 2015

    PMR good luck tomorrow (today)!

    Brandi- I'm sorry your entire cancer experience has been a shitbag from the start. Cancer is never good, . But you seem to get the raw end of the stick at every turn. I'm sorry for that- truly not fair.I hope these symptoms are addressed and alleviated soon, and that your BS is listening and being helpful. I'm sure you have already been on the phone advocating for yourself.

    I'm sorry the PS violated your wishes.I'm curious as to why they did an immediate diep flap if they knew you will need rads? All of my ps consults have advised to do reconstruction after rads.

    The force is strong with "incorrect" AKA autoscrewup on my Kindle. Grr.

    I had taxol 8 yesterday. I have actually come to look forward to chemo days - I know, screwed up. It means I'm getting one step closer to finish this chemo shit. I have different friend taking me every week so it is like a lunch date where is I sit in a recliner with a blanket and my lunch is pretzels and poison with benedryl and decadron mixed in As appetizers.

    I go see the ps consult today regarding DIEP Flap. I plan to solidify my flap decision after this appointment and start getting things lined for surgery.this to me feels I'm about to emerge from a long winter and surgery is summer. It's helping Mr get through these last weeks.

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited May 2015

    Pmr53, I hope your surgery goes great with no complications. I will pray for you as well.

    JazzercizeGirl, your description of how you felt taking care of your parents in their last days was so on target of how I felt for taking care of my mom. Unfortunately my dad passed away very unexpectedly back in 2005 he actually died at work 10 minutes after he clocked in he had a massive heart attack and they could save him. He worked at a hospital and the security guard was walking him to the ER and he collapsed in the hallway right outside the ER but they couldn't save him. He had worked there 38 years. After he passed I took over completely for caring for my mom. I would help dad take care of mom before he passed. It really does give you a different perspective of your parents when you have to take care of them. And it does reshape the way you think about your own future and your own Children. Hey, have fun in Disneyland.

    SweetHope, did you see a picture of my head or something because my hair is growing back the exact same way. And my sister said I look funny with no eyebrows or lashes. I said, I can't help that. Lol.....

    Brandi999, the shortness of breath could be because of the pain. As far as the tight chest, I too felt like I was wearing an iron bra. That was because of all the swelling. After a couple weeks of that I asked my surgeon if a compression wrap would help reduce some of the swelling and the iron bra feeling. He said I could try it but he really didn't think it would help. I wore the little velcro wrap that he put on me after surgery for 24 hours solid. It was uncomfortable for many hours but I forced myself to wear it. After the 24 hours I took it off and took a warm shower. That felt very good and a lot of the swelling did subside. But this was a few weeks out of surgery so your surgeon may not allowed something like that this soon after surgery but it won't hurt to ask.

    Good night ladies. Many thoughts and prayers and hugs....

  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2015

    thank you Momna, J Stacy and Beacbum! For the support and well wishes. Just about to shower and go!! Hoping all goes well and I am home in my own bed tonight!

    PMR53

  • Tennisfan
    Tennisfan Member Posts: 114
    edited May 2015

    brandi, I am so sorry to hear about all these hurdles. I feel so powerless as I'd like to fly out and be by your bedside to apply every little trick from all of us on you to alleviate your pain.

    I felt the iron bra too - hang in there, it will be gone in a few more days, hopefully. My cousin cried and did not see anyone for ten days, but I think that psychological support would have helped her instead of her waiting for the dark cloud to pass. And I totally agree that the nausea etc. shouldn't be happening a few days after surgery. PLEASE PLEASE call your doctor and go in asap? Nothing critical but if you want your body to heal, you need to eat and not shed weight. I don't care if you eat only buckets of ice cream, but you have to eat and rest.

    PMR3, do tell how you are doing?

    Cat, you made me cry while reading your post about your mom. My two sisters, who are 7 and 9 years younger than me, make fun of me because I spend a lot of time with my mom. I made her move to Montreal from Quebec City last year at 75 so we would all be closer and have fun with her for the rest of her life. She has already made new friends and we all se her at least once a week. We talk every day. We all live 5 minutes apart. After losing my dad with whom I was very close until he passed three years ago, I wanted to be closer to my family as I lived In Toronto for the last 15 years. Nothing happens for no reason as my family and friends filled my freezer before and during surgery and chemo. I would have been sad and lonely going through this alone in Toronto...I am so happy about my decision and we truly have family quality time. So when my mom dies I will be ready but I will not regret anything and will be able to reminisce about our last years having fun together.

    Make no mistake, though, I bought a new condo a few miles away that I will move to in September, and will be ready to start looking for a new boyfriend/partner by then also, when my tennis ball/peach fuzz grows back to get me confident enough to go back hunting so to speak for the man of my life :0).

    Brandi, again our thoughts are with you.Please get help and get out of this nightmare quickly.

    Marjorie

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited May 2015

    Marjorie, The men will be lining up to have a chance to date you. You have been such a positive force during all this, that any man would be a fool not to appreciate your spunk and determination.

    PMR, I hope you are resting comfortably at home tonight.

    Jlstacey, what a yummy lunch!

  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited May 2015

    Hey all I made it home from surgery. Minimal pain. Mostly from the shot to numb the area before the wire insert. Will take it easy this weekend and take my pain meds. Path next week!!

    Thank you for all your support and prayers!

    PMR53

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited May 2015

    OH Brandi – I didn't have reconstruction so I can't imagine the pain you are experiencing but I so wish it could be taken away.I hope you have called your BS by now and have gotten some relief! This may not be what you want to hear as I know you are tired and frustrated with treatment but the radiation is nothing like chemo.I am almost through it and it has gone very well. I realize that I still have one more week of rads and then at least another 2 weeks after that until the redness peaks but this is so much more manageable then chemo was. Once your pain and nausea from surgery is under control, maybe radiation won't seem so unbearable.

    PMR53 – Happy to see you are home from surgery and able to post. Do rest and take it easy. Wishing the best for the path results next week too!

    Marjorie – ditto what Sweethope said!The main problem I'm sure is finding a good candidate!! LOL

    Jlstacey – I can so relate to what you said about being happy to have another chemo! I feel exactly the same way each time I get another treatment of radiation too. Hope your consult went very well today too.

    Both of my parents are still here and doing relatively well. My Dad started radiation yesterday (first of 40) for prostate cancer.His appointment was at 11:15 and mine was at 11:00 on a different machine. We went together! My Mom had oral cancer 3 years ago and can now only eat pureed foods now as they took about 7/8 of her tongue to rid her of the cancer.She is otherwise doing okay though.They only live about 20 minutes away from me and have been a great help to me as I try to be to them. I think it is important to keep those family connections whenever you can. It's great that many of you were able to do that as well.

    On the hair note, I actually think I am still losing some of the hair that didn't lose through chemo. Grgh!!! Eyelashes and eyebrows are now completely gone too. Honestly, I would like them to come back sooner than my hair because I think they make me look sick without them! With all my hot flashes, no hair on my head has been a bit of a blessing! I did get some hair growth though as I had to shave my left underarm last week for the first time..Oh yeah for me! LOL With radiation, no growth on my right side now it seems! Oh some kind of luck eh? Ha ha ha...

    I will add a couple of pictures of my husband and the puppy Bailey! Both of them are always hungry so one is of them looking in the fridge and the other is them looking at the grocery flyers! Hope they bring a smile to you all!

    Wishing everyone a great weekend!

  • RV6gal
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  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited May 2015

    Wendy, they both look cuddly cute!

    PMR, Sweet dreams. Happy everything went well.

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