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  • enjoyevrymoment
    enjoyevrymoment Member Posts: 334
    edited April 2015

    Slv, Like our previous breasts, they can change shape with weight gain or loss, also after this surgery initially there is swelling and stuff can shift around so don't despair. I am over a year out and like em. Are they 100% "real looking" well probably not but way closer than I expected. Best wishes with your ongoing recovery.


  • StillStanding66
    StillStanding66 Member Posts: 22
    edited April 2015
  • Tan72
    Tan72 Member Posts: 52
    edited April 2015

    enjoyeverymoment, thanks for the post, I to am very surprised and happy at how much closer to real they look than what I expected. My ps has done a great job and I don't want to rock the boat. I think I will commit to exercise for awhile and see if that helps before jumping into a decision

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited April 2015

    Tan, I have a lot of "side boob" also and my breasts are a lot larger than I ever wanted (F cups rather than the small C's I have asked for). I am tempted to call it good enough. After 6 surgeries (including 2 Lx), I am over it! BUT, the out-of-pocket is paid and I'd planned to have Stage 2 this fall. I'm not sure if it will be worth it. My scars are healing well and my larger breasts are symmetric. However, I have an old dog ear from surgery #3, my belly button is off-center, and I could get these breasts sized down to the point that I could finally wear a button-up blouse that doesn't gape open. It's a tough decision. When is it good enough? I had a girls' weekend with my gal pals that I hot-spring with and all gave the thumbs-up!

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Holy cow, LAstar1! You asked for a C and got F? How does that happen?

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited April 2015

    It's ridiculous! I had F cups to start with, so at Stage 1 I think the PS just used my ample hips to fill the breasts. It's easier to go smaller at Stage 2 than larger. However, this is a problem since there is research that shows that the larger flaps are more prone to necrosis, and I ended up with extensive necrosis on my left side. The necrosis was not dealt with at Stage 2 and the breasts were not reduced as I had requested. I went to a different PS for my uni-DIEP to repair the necrosis and she matched the new left the right side (which is great since the necrosis had caused my left side to shrink at least 2 cups sizes and all my shirts pulled to the right). So after all this surgery, I still have F cups.

  • Tan72
    Tan72 Member Posts: 52
    edited April 2015

    LAstar sounds like we are in similar boats, I asked for D's and ended up with very full DDD's, I am tall and still on the chunky side and we talked about being proportioned, however, the side boob is awkward for bras and comfort, I too have met my deductible and we start our new fiscal year in July, so if I do it before end of June it's fully covered, tough decision. Especially since they are symetrical and overall looks ok. I toggle with when is enough enough 5 surgeries including hysterectomy and lx and wondering if it will nag at me and I'll regret not doing it later. Our poor brains and second guessing our selfs. Thanks for the reply it's helps knowing I'm not alone. Good luck, hot springs sound like fun. I am also in Oregon maybe we can meet up in the future.

  • susanella
    susanella Member Posts: 47
    edited April 2015

    Hi all --

    I am scheduled for a DIEP on 5/21/15 on Long Island, NY. I had a right lumpectomy and re-excision in 2011 for triple negative BC (stage IIA) followed by ACT chemo and rads (25 plus 5 boosts), a robotic complete hysterectomy for uterine cancer in 2012 (stage i), and right breast scar revision and left breast lift in 2014. After my breast MRI last month, I was told I have LCIS in the left breast), which is a high risk marker for BC in either breast. I want peace so I am opting for a BMX followed by immediate DIEP reconstruction. I'm 61 years old and am terrified that the recovery will be very difficult. When can I expect to go back to work? I generally sit at a desk/computer 8 hours a day. I would appreciate any helpful tips and reassurance. I am wondering about range of motion. Do you get back full range of motion? Thanks.

    Susanella -- Long Island, NY

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited April 2015

    Susanella, for having both the BMX and DIEP, I would give yourself 6 weeks for recovery. I needed 6 weeks to get back to my desk job when I had my BMX and SGAP at age 42. I recently had a uni-DIEP to repair some necrosis and only needed 4 weeks since I didn't have the BMX. I was able to get full ROM back after seeing an OT who was trained to assist BC patient with lymphedema. She helped me so much, but I find I really have to stay on the stretches or I tighten back up. The recovery is long and gets old, but it's doable. It's worth the peace of mind, and the results are very nice! You'll be ready to celebrate by the 4th of July and will have a nice summer ahead.

  • TinaHoff
    TinaHoff Member Posts: 62
    edited April 2015


    jmb5,

    Thanks for the shout out post on April 21st! It made me laugh when you wrote that the nipple reconstruction didn't hurt, but it looked like it should!

    I had my nipple reconstruction yesterday, with some fat grafting and a nipple eversion on my left (natural) breast. I was surprised things hurt as much as they did.  I am a light weight when it comes to the pain management drugs, and most of them just make me nauseas. I'd rather have a little pain than nausea. So I found that if I take half of the minimum dose at the scheduled time, that manages the pain, and cuts way down on the side effects.  I feel pretty good today, so am finding it really difficult to rest. I am also very surprised to find I am anxious to get back to work.  All in all, good news.

  • Sassy01
    Sassy01 Member Posts: 61
    edited April 2015

    Tan72, I had my side boobs removed at Stage 2. I am very glad I did! It is only about an inch long scar off the side of my boobs. It was not a big deal and never hurt!

  • Teacher64
    Teacher64 Member Posts: 840
    edited April 2015

    I've had a bit of concern due to tenderness/pain on left side. BS said it is a bit of necrosis and to massage. I had worried for nothing

  • susanella
    susanella Member Posts: 47
    edited May 2015

    Hi LAstar and all,

    Thanks for the encouragement. After the right lumpectomy, the BMX and bilateral DIEP are a big step.

    Since I previously had TNBC in the right and was just dxed with LCIS in the left, I want

    peace of mind. I was told I am not a candidate for an implant because of the previous rads. I hope

    the DIEP will give me good results. My BS and PS are recommending skin-sparing MX but with

    nipple reconstructions. I hope I'm not disappointed. I hate scars since its a reminder of the BC.

    Thanks,

    Susanella

  • wintersocks
    wintersocks Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2015

    Tay72,

    I too have the side boob look and feel, but it has reduced somewhat. i was due to get this pared down once I had a benign result for the nodule I found on the mx scar. Just about to book me in and I showed her that another nodule/bump.lump has come up more to the centre of the cleavage this time. I have to now wait for its removal and biopsy before I can go ahead to get the next stage done.

    Anybody else get this? the ps said she had not seen this recur twice since working on her current team and that it was unusual. She did say she was not concerned about it.

  • caligirl3
    caligirl3 Member Posts: 86
    edited May 2015

    Hi wintersocks,

    I had a small lump on my scar which was removed and sent for pathology in March during my phase 2 surgery. It came back clear. Now I noticed another lump in the same spot. It is painful around it. I don't know if I should just massage it(might be scar tissue?) or mention it to my PS. I hadn't noticed it when I went for my follow up with him on the 21st. It is on the non cancer side. What did your PS say it was?

  • wintersocks
    wintersocks Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2015

    Caligirl93

    I don;t know the medical term used. but in essence it seems it was some kind of fat necrosis. It seems this is the same, both lumps look a little bit pearly, neither is/ was sore. It's really irritating when these things happen after you have just seen the medic as in my case too!

    Honestly Caligir,l my advice would be to go back and get it looked at, I would request a biopsy, even if they don't think you need it. There was no hesitation in arranging this second one I am currently waiting for. The doctor's words 'you have had cancer, let's get this out' Although our treatment here is free on The National Health Service, it is at times grindingly slow. So I wait.

  • GwennyMD
    GwennyMD Member Posts: 147
    edited May 2015

    Susanella

    I was 57 when I had BMX and immediate DIEP. I was able to do some work from home at week 5 but I still got tired quickly. Fortunately, I did not have to sit at the computer all day since I also have to do a lot of reading in my work. I believe that the biggest factor that affected my recovery was my condition before the surgery. I was worn out from the 6 months of chemo that I completed 2 months earlier. Recovery periods are usually estimated, but most people who are physically fit before surgery do well after surgery provided that they are no complications from surgery.

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited May 2015

    Can areas of necrosis cause pain? Ihave a small area right under the skin that has suddenly become painful.

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited May 2015

    debiann, my necrosis was sore sometimes but I never had sharp pain.

  • wintersocks
    wintersocks Member Posts: 922
    edited May 2015

    I never had pain around these lumps. I do, however get pain in the recon breast, sometimes it's momentarily sharp and other times it is persistently and intermittently sharp for say half a day and then it goes.

    Still waiting for my letter about this second biopsy...

  • caligirl3
    caligirl3 Member Posts: 86
    edited May 2015

    Thanks for responding wintersocks. I will call and ask my PS. I wasn't going to see him till I was ready to proceed with nipple reconstruction. Oh well, I guess Ill be seeing him sooner. I can't wait to be done with all this!

    Wishing for benign results on your biopsy.

  • momofthreeswimmers
    momofthreeswimmers Member Posts: 17
    edited May 2015

    I am debating between no reconstruction at all or a diep? I am very scared of necrosis and complications I am 48 should I wait more? I am2 years out of diagnosis and chemo your thoughts?

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited May 2015

    Momof3, this is a very personal decision. I had a complication with necrosis that required a redo on one side, and the whole thing made me question whether I should have tried reconstruction at all. Many women have no complications and are just thrilled with their results. Even with the complication, I am happy with my results. It just took longer to get there. The recovery is long (4-6 weeks) and the process usually takes two surgeries to complete. You can start talking to surgeons, looking at photos, and checking on insurance to see if this is the right step for you.

    Question: I had uni-DIEP in January to correct a failed SGAP. It's been over 3 months and I am feeling so moody and irritable. I went through this for 8 months after my BMX which was understandable, but I just had hip tissue removed. Has anyone experienced this? I'm wondering if I'm feeling menopausal given that I'm 45. Or maybe hormones are stored in other fat as much as in breast tissue?

  • Jlg1067
    Jlg1067 Member Posts: 14
    edited May 2015

    Momofthrees, The decision is a personal one that requires a lot of thought. I am 47 and i just wanted to look normal again in a shirt or bathing suit. I was really tired of taking off and putting on my "stuffing". The DIEP was the best thing mentally I've done since my journey started. I had the Diep in July 2014,4 weeks recovery to function again like i felt i should be able to and in December 2014 i had a revision, 2 week recovery. I actually took a 12 hours drive to Texas the week my drains came out...lol (Stopped overnight), no complications with either, had a bit of necrosis with the 1st, but PS cleaned it up with the revision. My PS did some other "touch ups" for me during the revision and I'm good with the results. He was awesome. He told me they have someone training to do the 3D nips in his office, but I'm leary with a new person doing that anyway, so I'm now researching 3D tats for my nips, not sure if i want 3D nips or Flowers... I am extremely happy with what i have and they are my own tissue so they are me and mine! the scars are fading, but i think i may go the flower tat route to cover a lot of them up.

    LAstar, I had some moodiness after each of my last few surgeries(6 total) and i am told its from the anesthesia

  • Sassy01
    Sassy01 Member Posts: 61
    edited May 2015

    LAstar, I was very emotional & weepy for months after Stage 2. No idea why because I was more than thrilled with my results!

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited May 2015

    It's so nice to know that, if i'm going crazy, at least I'm in good company! It really does help to know that this is in the range of "normal" and others have experienced it. I feel really happy to have this latest surgery behind me, and my results are nice enough that I'm thinking of not bothering with Stage 2. I am getting regular exercise and feeling strong, so it's been confusing to have this dark cloud following me. I am so annoyed with everyone and feeling really bitchy. It feels hormonal, just out-of-the-blue blues that there is no concrete reason to be feeling. Oy! Hormones run the show!

  • Ridley
    Ridley Member Posts: 634
    edited May 2015

    LA Star -- are you on any new drugs?-- what you are experiencing sounds like how tamox impacted me about 6-7 months after I started it.

    Momof3 -- I agree with the others that this is such a personal decision -- I had a spreadsheet with pros and cons, took my best friends out for dinner and walked them through my thought process, talked to all my docs, etc., etc., etc. :)   I think I knew in my gut early on what I wanted to do, but needed to go through the analysis to confirm it.  At the end of the day, I would go the same route again. For me the decision was about how I would feel and how I would be able to handle the reconstruction now vs. later (e.g. support system I had in place now, etc. etc.). 

    Good luck with your decision.


     

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited May 2015

    Ridley, I'm not taking AI's or anything else. Thanks for checking on me.

  • Som
    Som Member Posts: 21
    edited May 2015

    Momofthree - I am in the same boat and trying to decide what to do after part of my reconstruction failed.  I had a bilateral mastectomy with tissue expanders and then had implant exchange surgery last year.  I got an infection in my radiated breast and had to have the implant removed.  Now I have an implant on the left and nothing on the right.  I am trying to decide between diep or just wearing a prosthesis.  My family thinks I am fine the way I am and does not want me to have any further surgeries.  In my heart I hate looking like this, but also worry about complications and the huge scar I will have on my stomach if I go through with diep.  I wish you the best in your decision-making.  I know it's very difficult!

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited May 2015

    Just got home from my stage 2 lift and feeling kind of sad. I think he reduced too much. I was always a B cup, but after the diep I was a C+. I was really enjoying having cleavage for the first time in my life, but I think its gone. At least they're not saggy. 

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