DIEP 2015
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ME hang in there it can be fixed with fat grafting. I lost over 50% of my flap and two fat sessions did the trick. I also refused an implant.
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Thank you so much, LA star. It's comforting to hear that the waffling is normal, and it's so sweet how you and your daughter made the most of your recovery time. I'm hoping my kids will be a help and am starting to put plans in place for friends to help out as well.
I have a basic question for those who've had the DIEP. Right now I'm about 15 pounds heavier than I like to be -- I'm 5'1" and 128-130 pounds. I'm planning to stay at this weight for the surgery but really can't wait to get in better ishape. How much of a difference will I see in my stomach after surgery? Did you go down any sizes?
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Ack ME .... you gonna go for the fat grafting then?
Good news about the drain though!
Oh, I just read jbdayton's post: that is encouraging!
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Yes, thank you jbdayton, that is encouraging. I have been mourning the partial loss of my gorgeous foob. I guess I will have to buck up and do the fat grafting later this year. I am going to finish my healing from the last couple of surgeries and take some time off from all this illness stuff. It seems to me I have been doing nothing but recovering since February. Makes me reguess my decision not to go flat.
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I hope you don't mind that I jumping into the middle of all these wonderful discussions, but I have a question for those of you who have gone through Stage 2 of their DIEP procedure. I am a little over one week out and so far I am very pleased with the results. I am extremely symmetrical, but my overall shape is not what I expected. My PS said that it may take up to six months before everything settles into place. It seems like I don't have any projection. Is this typical? Thank you, Ann
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Hi Ann, congrats on getting through to the next stage! I had stage 1 in March and have the same concerns regarding projection. I saw my PS 2 weeks ago and she explained that I didn't have enough fat to make up the same size breast so she was more concerned with cleavage appearance. I have areas of indentations that will need fat grating and definitely a reduction and slight lift on the other. She did say that more than likely my foob would probably be slightly flatter but with stage 2 at least both breasts will be more symmetrical. I did notice right out of surgery the lack of projection so maybe some women just don't have the donor fat to shape a more realistic projection? Overall I'm really happy, other than having to wear a padded bra (I'm a cup size different) I look quite good in clothing and not bad in a bathing suit. I have a couple dog ears that will need addressing but I figure atthis point I'm a work in progress! I'll be interested in hearing what others who have completed their surgery have to say.
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Thanks slv58. My PS told me going into surgery that he would do his best to get me back to my original C/D size but that I did not have a lot of fat to work with. He was able to remove my football shaped flap (didn't know for sure going into surgery), and I am extremely pleased with my torso area so I really can't complain. I woke up with a drain on my radiated side as the team worked very hard to make the area under my arm nice and smooth. Other than a little soreness here and there, stage 2 was a piece of cake. An
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I am getting anxious. I want to finish now.
Tomorrow's reconstruction revision surgery #3 has been rescheduled for June 1. Insurance is still reviewing medical documents and did not get the final approval to doc and hospital yet.
My initial date was May 27 but last Wednesday PS called and asked if I could move it up to May 19. I agreed and they notified insurance but on Thursday insurance requested all my medical documents all 500+ pages were sent that afternoon.
When they called this morning to find out the approval status the insurance pre cert team said they have 15 days to make a decision since it is not a medical emergency. So now, the next available date is June 1. I just want to be healed well before vacation in August.
My prayers and thoughts are with each and everyone of us for good healing and fabulous results.
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jbdayton, that is cruel of the insurance company. Especially when it is for something that insurance must cover.
Well everyone , when you are told lifting limits be sure to remember that means your body, too. Last night I was getting off my couch when I pushed up with my hand and straightened my arm and something "popped". It was part of my incision that popped open where three incisions come together in a "t". It had been 11 days since my last surgery there. My wound care expert friend says that wounds are the weakest about 9 days. I did have some good come from it - I had a seroma forming and it drained. My PS cleaned the area, leaving a small hole that will have to be packed to heal from the bottom up. Always something.
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ME sorry about the wound. Please be very careful and treat often. Since you have a friend specializing in wound care I am sure you understand. Good luck for quick healing. But be patient.
I found a silver lining about delaying my surgery. I can now make the 6 hour drive to go see my grandson graduate this Sunday. And if things work out I can visit with my college roommate for a little while before having to come back home on Monday.
Hope everyone is doing well after their procedure or preparing for a procedure.
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ME, that T-shaped place was where I had delayed healing too. Mine didn't pop open so much as just took ages to heal .... 6-7 weeks before it finally wasn't scabbed, and then it looked quite fragile for a spell.
That area had had three surgeries plus radiation, so I suppose it was not surprising. Nobody but me seemed concerned!
I have a headache this morning. Depressed, reading about early morning headache being a symptom of mets. DH says I didn't drink enough yesterday ...... He's probably right.
Yesterday was a long day. Work all day, then straight down to the reservoir to dragon boat training, then straight from there to chorus rehearsal, and didn't get home til nearly 11 pm.
It feels foolish to do so much, yet I don't want to give any of it up! (except maybe the work bit!)

If I can't do paddling and singing on the same night, I'll have to choose singing this summer, as we are competing in Vegas in the fall!
I have negotiated dropping Wednesdays at work, so I have a recovery day today..... but I have my "to do" list, so better get going!
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I am BRCA2 positive and have decided to get a double mastectomy. I have known for about 5 yrs. and at first wasn’t going to, but I
would rather deal with this than chance getting cancer. I went to a PS that specializes in DIEP, but I don't have enough fat in my stomach to do both breasts (that was a shock- I think I have plenty of fat). She talked to me about taking fat from by butt or thighs- no one area has enough fat for both sides. I don't really want to go in for one DIEP surgery from my stomach and have to go back to have fat removed from
another area. She recommended implants; I didn't want something foreign in my body- but may not have another choice. Has anyone had DIEP done on one breast and the other an implant, or gone in 2 times for DIEP one area at time? Or implants on both sides and you are happy with the results?
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Donita, if travel is a possibility, check with the Center for Restorative Breast Surgery in New Orleans. The have a "body lift " reconstruction that takes flaps from multiple areas in a single surgery (with a stage 2 at least 3 months later to do the fine-tuning). They are also very good about getting enough from one area, often when other surgeons say it can't be done. Also check out Dr. Marga Massey and PRMA in San Antonio, Texas. These surgeons perform hundreds of these surgeries each year and do amazing work. Travel for surgery adds a level of complexity but they make it easier with car service and discount hotel rates. Compare results photos for all of the surgeons. Due to a complication (necrosis), I have one breast from my hips and one from my abdomen. They feel and look the same. The recovery time is long but the results are great. Best wishes in making these tough decisions. It really helps to find the right surgeon that you trust.
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Hi everyone. I have posted on other threads but first time on this one. I just had my last neoadjuvant chemo yesterday, YEAH! So glad to be done with that part. Now, on to surgery.
For a little personal hx - my DH & I live in AZ, but he recently got a contracted job in Wash, DC area for at least one year. I'm not working (retired almost one year ago & have spent since Jan 2015 dealing with BC dx. Actually glad I wasn't working as would have been much harder for me to work at same time). Anyway, I've decided to go to Wash, DC, for my surgery as there is only one surgeon where I live that does DIEP flaps & I wasn't all that impressed with him when I went for a consult.
I did some research regarding surgeons in the DC & surrounding areas & selected Dr Venturi, PS, & Dr Vargas, BS. They work together & I found excellent reviews online. I'm wondering if anyone on this site has had either of these 2 surgeons & what your experience has been. I have been in contact with both offices & my experience on the phone has been positive. Especially with Dr Vargas & his office staff. He himself has called me twice even though I haven't even seen him yet, & has already taken my case to his tumor board. They have set up everything I need in advance based the date of my last chemo & on the day I'm flying in.
I am planning on having a DIEP flap for reconstruction at same time as BMX- that is if I don't need radiation. I am having a SNB (6/12) 2 weeks prior to surgery to find out if I'll need radiation or not. My understanding is If there are no cancer cells found with SNB, then I won't need radiation & the flap surgery can be done immediately. If I do need radiation, then the DIEP flap will have to be delayed, & tissue expanders will be put in for the interim.. My surgery is scheduled for 6/29.
Anyone else have these 2 docs? & if so, what was your experience?
Also, since my hsb is working at a new job & most of the time will be with me only during non working hours, what resources are there for help following surgery that may have been used by others, i.e. Getting to post op appts when restricted from driving, etc. I don't want to do this without him & that is another reason for doing this surgery in DC & my DH is excited about me being there with him for at least a couple months.. I just don't know anyone there or have any other support system in that area so any suggestions will be appreciated. BTW, the location we will be living in is Alexandria.
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Hello
I just wanted to say this site has been very informative. I have poured through the posts and decided to proceed with the DIEP procedure. My sx is scheduled for June 1 at PRMA with Dr Ochoa and Dr Ledoux. I am traveling from MN and will have to stay in a hotel for 2 weeks.
Is anyone her also schedule to have sx at PRMA the first week of June?
What things should I bring to make my life easier in the hotel?
Renee
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meded - I was about 15 pounds more than I wanted to be at surgery time, too. Unfortunately, while my tummy is now flat, I didn't lose a pound or drop any sizes. They say it takes time for everything to stop swelling, but I just got the OK to get back to exercising! Tummy looks great, super flat, now just need to get the rest to follow suit. My children are 13 and 10 and were very helpful this entire year. They will understand that you need the help, especially if they've never seen you recovering/ill before.
I'm BRCA 1 and I wish I'd known. I would have done the BMX and not have to deal with this cancer BS.
Good luck!!
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Mardea15,
You are wise not to use the PS where you live. I used him and have had problems.
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I was wondering if anyone in the Fort Worth area had their surgery at Plaza? The doctor told me that I could have my surgery on June 2nd at Plaza. It was originally planned at Baylor but apparently they can't get any OR time until July and I've been waiting a year for insurance etc to get taken care of? Anybody have any words of encouragement?
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ME - so sorry about the most recent trouble with your incision, hope it heals well for you
Morwenna - I think your husband was right re: dehydration - that was quite a day for you!
Donita - I am having a Rt DIEP and Left implant for reason of not enough abdominal fat. I really respect and trust my PS, he is considered the best in our area and I have also worked with him in the past as a nurse.
My surgery is tomorrow, last day of work for a bit yesterday, taking care of last minute details here today.
Welcome to everyone who is new!
Take care
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Websister, good luck tomorrow, sending positive hugs for uneventful surgery and quick healing!
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rlynn,
I, too, stayed close to the hospital for 3 weeks. I went down to Rochester in MN. I actually brought my recliner with, since we all know how uncomfortable other beds are, and I am glad I did. But if you have enough pillows to put around you, you can make yourself a pretty good nest in the bed. There really is nothing you need, just bring something to pass the time. I brought books and my crocheting to keep me busy. You won't feel like doing a whole lot. Make sure you have nice soft cami's and comfy clothes. you will live in them and some tennis shoes for walking. Anything you need, the hospital will have given you. Just rest and make yourself do some walking. that's all there is to it. Just don't overdo it. Oh and another thing I was glad to have, Colace...kept me regular. The laxative they gave me in the hospital didn't do much of anything, I actually took it in the hospital.
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Mardea15--I did not use the two Dr. V's, but I've heard very good things about them from a group of ladies that I lunch with monthly. I'd never heard of them until it was too late. If you want me too, I can post something on the thread here that we use to communicate about our lunches and ask them to send you a PM to discuss.
I don't know of any services to get patients to and from appointments I'll bet you'll be having surgery at Inova Fairfax Hospital. Near there is a place called Life with Cancer with a lot of free and excellent services. You might want to call them to see if they have any leads on transportation. That said, if I am avaialble (being that I have to travel a lot this summer), I would be happy to take you to appointments. I know how it is, and I'd do anything to help another BC sister.
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Hi mary625!
Thank you so much for your kind response; & need for transportation aside, I would love to meet you anyway as another BC sister. It would be wonderful to meet & hear from someone in DC area whose been through this process.. Everything will be so new to me there.
You're right about INOVA Fairfax Hospital, that is where the DIEP flap would be done providing it's found I don't need rads after SNB. If I do need rads the surgery for BMX & TEs will be at INOVA FairOaks Hospital (shorter surgery). in that case DIEP flap will be delayed.
Would be great to have any of your friends PM me re these docs. The office staff & Dr Vargas himself have all been extremely helpful & wonderful to me on the phone. Dr Venturi's staff has been very helpful as well but I haven't talked with them near as much once the BS office took the lead.
I will also check with Life With Cancer that you suggested re their resources. Thanks again for your suggestions & help.
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Has anyone out there had a Stacked DIEP? I had a bilateral mastectomy almost a month ago with SGAP reconstruction. Eleven hours later, PS decided to call it quits after trying four times and removing rib cartilage two times. I can try again in at the 3 month mark. He said he wants to try a stacked DIEP for the next round, even though I was told initially I was not a DIEP candidate because I store my fat in my thighs.
I don't understand exactly what happens in this surgery. He said something about having to form a new belly button. Is this true? How big is the scar? What is the recovery time? How do you get up and down with your stomach being cut?
Thanks for any help.
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Dogbiscuit, my scar goes from hip to hip. My impression was that my PS moved my belly button and there is a little red scar on the inside where it was reattached. It's a little right-of-center but I'm probably the only one that would notice it.
For a uni-DIEP, my recovery was about 4 weeks. Since you have one side that is not operated on, you will have a strong arm to help you roll to your side and get out of bed. I would bring my knee up toward my chest, grab on and swing myself up if I didn't have someone to help me up. I also stayed propped up in bed so that I didn't have so far to go.
One thing you might discuss with your doctor before you go in for surgery is how he plans to deal with your extra abdominal area. My uni-DIEP was to correct a failed SGAP also. Since I had already experienced one failed flap, when I got into surgery my PS was concerned about taking both sides of my abdomen just in case I had another failure. When I woke up from surgery, I learned that she had discussed this concern with my husband and they had decided I would want her to take one side of my abdomen and leave the other just in case. I wish we had discussed it before so I would have been prepared. My DIEP survived and I had a second surgery a few days later to remove the unneeded abdominal flap so I would be balanced. It was a little demoralizing to wake up from surgery and learn that I would have another in a few days, but it was also good to have a plan B.
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Hi All: On the belly button...my PS said that the incision in just below your belly button and when they sew you up again, they pull your skin down like a window shade and cut a new opening over your existing belly button. That analogy really helped me understand what they did and why I felt so tight. I still feel tight 8 weeks after surgery, even though I've been walking, doing yoga, and stretching. I still can't sleep on my side because it is sore. But all my doctors say I'm healing normally. I agree that you are feeling much better after 4 weeks, but I'm far from recovered at 8 weeks.
I talked to my PS about how flat my foob looks, no projection where the nipple was and he said that is normal and to be expected and Phase II won't change it. I'm kind of disappointed with how it looks especially compared to my natural one. It is a little bit larger on the sides and my bras don't fit right. I'm hoping the swelling goes down so it looks more like the other. In August I will have some minor fat grafting to fill a "hole" up on top of my foob and get a nipple, but not much more than that. I talked to him about lifting both breasts and he asked if I wanted to have an "anchor" incision on my good breast, but I don't want to mess with it that much. I'm coming around to being thankful to having a breast that is mine and that looks good in clothes and bathing suit.
I didn't appreciate what a major operation this was and how long I would be feeling not myself. I am glad that I still have one natural breast. And, I'm not sure I would have done anything differently.
Good luck and I hope all surgeries went well!
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Hi Ladies..I'm listed for surgery on June 8th but it's actually been moved to June 19th (I will send Morweena a message). I will be having a BMX with immediate DIEP. I had my pre-op today and I was surprised by a couple of things. First, PS said I would not go to ICU. I will go straight to a regular room so I guess that's good news. Also, he said that he tries to complete the nipple reconstruction during the first surgery and he is able to do so about 80% of the time. I've read almost all of the 2014 and 2015 thread and I don't recall anyone saying that's how it was done for them. My PS is Dr. Fix at UAB in Birmingham, AL. Has anyone else had immediate nipple reconstruction? How did it go?
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Dogbiscuit,
I was thinking about your question about now being offered a stacked DIEP, when originally you were told you were not a candidate fro DIEP....?
My assumption would be that you did not have enough abdominal tissue to complete two "breasts", but what he is talking about now is to use tissue from both sides of your abdomen, stacked, to make the one breast, which doesn't sound unreasonable?
I had plenty of fat available, and my PS said he thought there was enough for two, but didn't expect that they would be as big as my originals, (DD).
I told him I was fine with that, but I really should have been clearer and said "Give me a C cup, I hate my big jugs!"
In the end I really like the size of my left one (delayed DIEP), but the right one is really too big and an unattractive shape. He was apologising about the left not turning out bigger, as the irradiated tissue was not very elastic, but he has agreed to reduce and reshape my right one. Currently I wear sports bras for a bit of compression as the right side has a touch of lymphedema as well. That was one thing he didn't mention, that might have given me pause: He took a number of lymph nodes (7) from my right axilla to access the vessels under my arm. Just a few. he said blithely. But I had that many from my left axilla originally, and ended up with established lymphedema on that side!
All said and done though, I am really pleased with my surgery, even though I had the complication of lung clots following. I feel really good now, and will be even better once my right is reduced and I can buy decent bras and swimsuits that fit nicely!

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Ladies, for those who had neo-adjuvant chemo, if you had immediate DIEP flap recon with your UMX/BMX, do you know what the reasoning behind that protocol was? I am at a hospital that does delayed recon as their protocol. I have seen a surgeon at a different hospital and their protocol is to do SNB in advance and then do immediate recon with BMX. What if they do SNB, don't find cancer, but then find active cancer in the breast tissue during BMX/recon? This has me hung up and I can't get answers from docs until June 8th. The DIEP results seem to look better with immediate recon though. Any experience that can be share I appreciate!
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I think the point is, jlstacey, that is there are no nodes affected, and you have a mastectomy, it is reasonable to assume you will not need radiotherapy, so good to proceed with reconstruction.
Irradiation can affect the transplanted flap, or cause problems with implants that are in place, so if you are going to have radiation, the norm is to do a delayed reconstruction, once the irradiated tissues have settled down.....
So to answer your question, if the nodes are not affected, it doesn't matter what they find during surgery, so long as they get it all with clear margins.
And to answer the second part of your question, I had one delayed DIEP, after rads, and one immediate DIEP, on my prophylactic mastectomy side. I think my delayed DIEP has the better result, and will have to go back for corrective surgery to the other, to obtain symmetry. I did have a bit of delayed healing on the irradiated side though ....
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