April & May 2015 Surgery Sisters

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  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited May 2015

    saugagirl-- Surgery date might only just mean that they had a schedule opening then! Don't over-think it. Ask the doctor or nurse, if you'd like a clearer answer, though. Just be persistent if you want to know anything. Sometimes that is the only way to make sure you get the information you need! I agree, though, that earlier is better. Less time for you to worry about things, and you will get checked to see if there is cancer or not more quickly.

    I just had my lumpectomy... I have no idea where the incision is, actually! It might be near the areola, since they were taking mammograms right before surgery and found there was calcifications in that area. My actual lesion/tumor was more in the top, middle of my R. breast. I'm hoping I won't have a big hollow spot where they took the tumor out, but I guess I will find out eventually!

  • saugagirl
    saugagirl Member Posts: 26
    edited May 2015

    Hi Audrey, 

    Thank you for your reply.  I'm sorry that you to go through this! Yes, I'm very happy with the early surgery date. I'm from Ontario, Canada so we have to be referred to specialists we can't call up one to make an appointment.  Our health care is covered by the government.  But when I find met the surgeon, I  felt very uncomfortable  with him-no bedside manner.  However, the second time I saw him i felt much better. Over here,  the radiologists reviews the imaging, states the findings on a report and sends report ti the doctor.  So, ultimately, it's up to the BS'S to make the final decision on diagnosis is  treatment,  next step?  Etc

  • saugagirl
    saugagirl Member Posts: 26
    edited May 2015

    Hopeful8201 - thanks for your reply.  I hope the incision isn't too big

    April 25 - trying not to over think too much, lol. I'm happy with the earlier surgery date so hopefully I can get answers quicker. Hope you recover well and you don't have a hollow dent in the breast.  How are you feeling?

  • downdog
    downdog Member Posts: 1,432
    edited May 2015

    Welcome, Sulev21 and saugagirl! saugagirl, your surgeon should be able to do a peri-areolar incision, which will be along the circumference of your areola, if the mass location is near your areola. These heal very nicely. I have one and you can't even see it. It was about 2cm in length, but I haven't been able to even identify where it began and where it ended since after about a year's worth of healing.

    april25, hoping you have a good path report.

    It will take several months for your post-lx breast to settle and for you to see the final cosmetic result. If rads are part of your treatment plan, then you will need to finish first. Depending on how much tissue was removed, you may have a dent, which can vary in size. Some can be hidden by bras and clothing, but it could also be in a location that is prominently visible in a swimsuit or with certain necklines. You can get these fixed, if you aren't happy with how it looks. Don't put up with it, if it makes you unhappy, regardless of the location. They are called partial defects, which is a stupid term, since they are full defects. It's like the word 'hole'. You can't have half a hole or a partial hole - all holes are whole holes, they just vary in size. Restoring your breast usually means a PS. Some BSs will rearrange tissue, usually from the lower outer fullest area, but depending on how much needs to be taken, this could just shift your problem. PSs can do fat grafting, autologous (flap) repair, and even any of the same techniques available for full breast reconstruction, depending on the size of the defect. april25, you will have to check your insurance/state legislation for coverage, if this is something that interests you. saugagirl, OHIP covers this and there will be more PSs who do this if you go a little further east of where you live.

    Happy Mother's Day!

  • saugagirl
    saugagirl Member Posts: 26
    edited May 2015

    Hi downdog,

    Thanks for your advice and insight into a lumpectomy. Now I have a better idea of the incision and what the breast may be like after surgery also other questions I may have to ask.

    Happy Mother's Day to you and the other ladies on here. I hope everyone has a wonderful day!

  • DayLily15
    DayLily15 Member Posts: 144
    edited May 2015

    Best wishes for treelilac tomorrow :)

    sulev21 - i had heavy drainage and my drain was in for 3 weeks. im still dealing with fluid in the area, i am now back to wearing the pressure garment/binder to keep it from sloshing around and making me seasick. it can take a long time to finish healing especially with a lymph dissection. dont rush removal of the drain. i chose not to have it needle drained due to the slight risk of infection, giving it time to resorb naturally instead.

    Happy Mothers Day everyone :)

  • AudreyB
    AudreyB Member Posts: 377
    edited May 2015

    Happy Mothers Day to all my beautiful Surgery Sisters. Best wishes to all having surgery this week.

    I woke up this morning in considerable pain. I was going to start weaning from pain pills today but now I wont.

    I have two possible theories. It feels like my expanders are sticking into my underarms. At first I thought right side pain was due to sentinel node removal but I woke up with considerable pain under each armpit and I can actually feel the expanders.

    I have one spot under left breast with very strong shooting pain. This is the pain that takes my breath away. I'm thinking it's the drain, drain with nerve involvement or expander with nerve involvement.

    PS apt on Tuesday and I'm hoping my two drains will be removed.

    Overall I feel ok. The sporadic shooting pain is a pain in the ass. I'm thinking today is my one step back and hoping tomorrow will be 2 giant steps forward.

    Blessings to all.

    Audrey



  • evelynsfirstborn
    evelynsfirstborn Member Posts: 29
    edited May 2015

    Happy Mother's Day to all my surgery sisters (we're all somebody's mother -- even if our babies have 4 legs!).

    DayLily15, thanks for addressing the heavy drainage issue. I'm now 16 days post-surgery & my drains are still producing too much juice. PS said the maximum length of time that the drains can safely stay in is 3 weeks so that's next Fri for me. The drains don't bother me that much and even the expanders weren't uncomfortable once I figured out which movements to avoid. But I have been wondering about the fluid once the drains come out. Does the high drainage mean I've been a bad patient (moving my arms too much)? Or is my body just taking longer than others to bind with the Alloderm? I've been laying around past couple of days, binge-watching Netflix, so maybe that will pay off. I'm not crazy about the idea of fluid building up in my new breasts.

    On the positive side, saw oncologist last week & the path report was all good news -- no surprises -- tiny DCIS completely removed, wide margins, clear sentinel + 1 node & clear nipples. No chemo or rads necessary. Very good. MO said I have only 5% chance of recurrence anywhere else but that she wanted me to try aromatase inhibitor (something called Arimidex) for added insurance. Guess I'll try it. She said if I can't tolerate side effects (joint pain & possible bone loss) I can quit taking it. But seems worth a try. I wouldn't start until next month (after drains are out & I'm more healed up).

    All in all, my recovery is proceeding really well. I was terrified before surgery but this isn't that bad at all. I am very blessed. Love & best wishes to all of you,

  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited May 2015

    Yep, furbabies are kids too! Love my furbabies to pieces. I've raised them from puppyhood and one still in kitten hood. Raised another furbaby that I lost last year to kidney failure from a kitten. Swore I could feel him dashing around me today as if to say "Mommy, I love you, even though you can't see me."

  • evelynsfirstborn
    evelynsfirstborn Member Posts: 29
    edited May 2015

    MOmmyof2,

    You weren't imagining it, your little guy was giving you love even if you couldn't see him. Love never dies.

    Happy Mother's Day

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited May 2015
  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited May 2015

    Hello from us, saugagirl, and welcome to the club nobody wants to join. We're all here for you, and understand what you are going through.

    We're all here to help guide your way.

    Warmly,

    The Mods

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited May 2015

    Hope everyone had a wonderful mother's day!!

    Best of luck to all my sisters having surgery this week.  Wishing you all a smooth recovery.

    evelynsfirstborn - did you ask your MO what the benefit would be of taking Arimidex if you now only have 5% chance for a recurrence??  Is taking the Arimidex going to lower your risk now to 1%?  I'm confused as to why she would recommend it for you with DCIS.

  • maconza
    maconza Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2015


    Don't worry you will be okay the great Lord is watching us with a merciful eye.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited May 2015

    Welcome maconza to BCO. Glad you chimed in with such supportive words.

  • april25
    april25 Member Posts: 772
    edited May 2015

    Third day after LX. I never had any actual pain... but did have aches and discomfort just when waking up and when lying down to go to sleep. So, lucky. I still took a hydrocodone pill if I felt achy (I figure I should not let all those pills go to waste... I usually don't need pain pills... but I figure three days after surgery is totally OK). I think I'm impatient a bit... I keep wanting the LX to really be nothing and to pass quickly, but it's not passing quickly enough for me. Maybe it's the waiting to hear the path... I do worry that I'll need more surgery because of margins or if they found something else! I try not to worry, but it's just sort of there, you know? Until I can get the path news, anyway. Maybe I need more distractions? I've been kind of stuck lying about, watching tv and reading and going on the computer for months now (since I had chemo before surgery). Maybe that's getting a bit old, too. And I LIKE doing all of that stuff! I'm sure I'll feel better once I can get out and about a bit! Even for someone who likes lying about, this has been a lot of lying about!

    And it's annoying that I'm still kind of weak from chemo. Can't really even walk any distance. Just enough to be OK with surgery (they asked if I could walk up a flight of stairs or go for a block, and I can do that... leaves me a bit out of breath, though).

    I haven't tried to check out my incisions... I'm kind of a chicken when it comes to that! I didn't look at my port incision until weeks afterwards! (This was my first real surgery. Never even had stitches before. I've led a very sheltered life when it comes to injuries and medical procedures-- at least up to now! Cancer can turn all that around fast!)

    I don't recall anything in all the pamphlets about what I should be doing... Just something about "if there's tape on the incisions, just leave it there until it falls off." And to watch for fever, a lot of pain and swelling and discharge and red streaks, etc. Supposedly I could shower if have doctor's permission... so the incisions should be healing up a bit, right? --But I still don't want to tinker about with them and look!!!

    I have a post-surgical appt. day after tomorrow... I think I won't touch anything until then! Is that weird?


    downdog -- Thanks for the info on what to expect. The surgeon said before the surgery that I "should look OK in a bra." But I think they might have found more calcifications than expected when the did the wire thing for the surgery... so I'm wondering if they had to take out more than expected? I'm not terribly worried... I'd rather heal up quickly and have no more surgery than be concerned over a divot... And I'm glad to be keeping most of my breast! It's good to know there are PS options, if it comes down to that. Of course, it's all "wait and see" at this point... I think that's the toughest part, right now.

  • middleagedmama
    middleagedmama Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2015

    happy belated Mother's Day to all of my surgery sisters! Today I had both of my drains removed and have to say it is one of the happiest days ever! What I thought has been expander discomfort was actually my drains. The relief is amazing! My fills will begin in two weeks. Hopefully this will make sleeping better. Tough to sleep when you feel foreign items in your chest.

    Welcome to all of our new sisters and good luck in those recovering and to those going in to surgery this week!

  • AudreyB
    AudreyB Member Posts: 377
    edited May 2015

    middleagedmama, I have my first post op with PS tomorrow and am hoping my drains come out. He told me he only likes to keep drains in for 7 days so I'm hoping he can remove them both. Left side output has steadily decreased but right side is still a little high. . I am having sharp pain in left breast and am hoping its drain pain. Will know tomorrow.

    Best wishes to all.

  • middleagedmama
    middleagedmama Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2015

    AudreyB,

    Hi, my PS said 10 days for me but because my output was still above thirty we waited a few more days. I did find that the draining was more painful as the drainage level went down. Good luck to you! It is a relief when they take them out

  • AudreyB
    AudreyB Member Posts: 377
    edited May 2015

    My beautiful daughter gave me this t-shirt for Mother's Day. LOL.

    image

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited May 2015

    great shirt, Audrey! I have one too, but decided in the end not to recon, so there's no "fake". They're just not there. I gues I can just wear it under some layers. They did try to kill me though.

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited May 2015

    audrey - love the shirt.  I know you'll wear it proudly once you get your new rack.  I hope you get the drains out tomorrow.  You will feel like a new woman.  Just don't look down as he's pulling them out.  It doesnt hurt but it does look like something is crawling under your skin as he pulls them out.

  • dawncru
    dawncru Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2015

    Hello all! I am brand new to these boards, reading and posting. But when I saw the spring surgerys, I decided to enter in. I am also 3 days out (april25) from my May 8th lumpectomy. Healing steadily and waiting for path report hopefully tomorrow. This is all so new to me, it is good to read your encouraging words to one another! Thanks...

  • AudreyB
    AudreyB Member Posts: 377
    edited May 2015

    welcome dawncru.

  • Flounder
    Flounder Member Posts: 35
    edited May 2015

    Welcome dawncru!

    After ten days, I finally got all four drains out today. I can also start doing some exercises which I'm very happy about. But no pathology report yet, they're that backed up.

  • SoutherMother
    SoutherMother Member Posts: 111
    edited May 2015

    TreeLilac, thought of you today as you are having your mastectomy today.  I am going on two weeks post surgery and am amazed how much one week to the next makes in the recovery.  Glad you have your boyfriend to take care of you and you will be taking it easy.  I will look forward to hearing how you are doing.

    AudreyB, I should be getting my last two drains out tomorrow too.  The first two drains didn't hurt when removed.  But when I told the nurse that it was easy and was looking forward to the last two being removed so easily, she advised me to take a muscle relaxer for the removal of the last two drains. You may want to take a couple of Tylenol just in case.

    Does anyone know how long one must sleep in the recliner before it becomes comfortable enough to sleep in bed?  I am hoping the uncomfortable feeling goes away with the removal of my drains.

  • mjh1
    mjh1 Member Posts: 445
    edited May 2015

    southernmother - it took me quite a long time to lie flat on my back.  I always needed a pillow somewhere to provide some sort of comfort.  I had every size and shape pillow imagineable to prop up the sore spots.  At first it was the nerves regrowing that was sending shooting pains across my back.  Then it was the TE digging into my ribcage.  I don't think I had any comfort sleeping until I got the okay to sleep on my side.  It takes a while for your body to adjust to the trauma it's just been through and then have to adjust to the TE's.  Don't worry, you too will soon know why we're all so happy to be rid of those TE's. 

  • little-k
    little-k Member Posts: 24
    edited May 2015

    Hello, I'm new on this page, I had surgery April 8. Lumpectomy and SNB. I am feeling well, clear margins and nodes and am just waiting to find out the plan for chemo.

    I have a question about the scar. Is there something I could be putting on it to help it heal (fade) well over time? I've seen ads for Mederma and Bio-Oil to reduce the appearance of scars. Has anyone used these product, or plan to? Just wondering if they are worth it?

    April, my experience with the bandages was as follows, I had steristrips over my incisions, and over that was a large gauze like bandage. I was able to remove the gauze like bandage after 2 days, at which point I was able to take a shower (gently) and was told to leave the steristrips on for 10 days, or until they started pealing off on their own. I ended up leaving them on for 14 days. I was nervous about seeing the result as well, but it wasn't so bad and is getting better every day.

  • AudreyB
    AudreyB Member Posts: 377
    edited May 2015

    thank you southermother. I'm only 5 days post op (6 tomorrow) but dr told me he likes to get drains out quickly so hopefully mine will cooperate. I will be taking a Percocet as Im still on them. I am in considerable pain still, underarms and I'm thinking drains too.

    I've been in my recliner since I came home on Friday. I'm going to stay in it for as long as it takes. I willl judge using the bed based on how easy it is for me to stand up from the recliner. Right now I can barely manage this. I can't imagine bed anytime soon.

  • mazy123
    mazy123 Member Posts: 38
    edited May 2015

    Hi Everyone,

    Thanks for welcoming me to this group Stillstanding, Downdog and Jackbirdie.

    I am anxiously awaiting my surgery next Thursday. Double mastectomy with tissue expanders. Meet with the plastic surgeon tomorrow for the pre op appt. Lots of questions to ask him.

    I have been reading these message boards and trying to get an idea of what to expect for recovery.

    I know recovery is different for each person, but will I feel better in four days? two weeks? four weeks? Should I plan to be in bed for two weeks? Just don't quite know what to expect.

    I am also nervous about pain meds. I have always had bad reactions to percocet. Makes me really nauseous and makes me throw up. I think they are doing a pain pack with lidocaine for the first four days. Do you think I might be able to just go to Tylenol after that or am I going to need stronger pain meds?

    Thinking of all of you going through this. Wish none of us had to go through this.

    Thanks,

    Mazy

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