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  • Marksgirl
    Marksgirl Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2015

    I worked with Down Syndrome babies who are always constipated.   Mirilax is an absolute lifesaver for those Moms.    It actually does smooth muscle training so after initial problem is solved, the Moms put a smaller dose in their babies bottles and gradually tapered if they could.  It improved overall bowel motility.   Nurses I work with recommend Smooth Move herbal tea if you can drink herbal tea.  Colace (stool softener) is also a good maintenance med.     Good luck MaryJC!   (I am from Rochester, NY, wish I was closer!)

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited April 2015

    thanks I'll try the smooth move and baths. Oh wow yes you're way up there. Wish u were closer too. Curious the work you do with children if u don't mind sharing. I work with children too.

  • Marksgirl
    Marksgirl Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2015


    Tried the duct tape to remove some pesky stubbies over my ear and now  I have a bare reddish rectangle on the side of my head!    Should have gone with the lint roller!   Mary -  I am a Physical Therapist, used to do pediatrics but now do home care.     

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited April 2015

    ok cool :) I'm a psychotherapist. Maybe you could give me pointers on my runners knee. Was only tight no pain. Started pt now BOTH KNEES HURT!! Grrr.

  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited April 2015

    hi everyone. I've had a busy week. I had first dense dose taxol Tuesday. Turned 50 on Thursday. Had incredible muscle and bone pain on Thurs and Fri. Broke down and took left over pain pills from surgery. Got the surprise of my life when my son who lives in Costa Rica showed up frday night to wish me happy birthday. He is in for the weekend. That's all unfortunately. But what a great surprise. Turning 50 didn't suck so much.

    So far taxol dd is much better than a/c.I can eat what I want and just have to deal with the bone pain. Much better than feeling nausea all the time. Three infusions left over 5 weeks then freedom from chemo hell.......

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited April 2015

    live-deliciously: I'm also finding Taxol so much easier. Little aches and pains so far, but no major bone pain yet. On AC the worst days were always the first and days 4 - 5 so it may be around the corner. My MO told me to take my steroid (dexamethasone) on days 2,3,4 and that should help. We'll see. If I get bad pain I will take my leftover pain pills too. The nurse at the oncologists told me I could even take them after Neulasta if I *really* needed it but I've been lucky so far with that. The one time I had a problem the Tylenol actually did the trick.

    That's wonderful about your son's surprise visit! Getting on a plane and making a trip like that is quite an expression of love and support.

    I'm having menstrual cramps tonight, I'm due tomorrow, and I'm wondering if I'll actually get period number three on chemo. I'm 46 and I thought chemo would be curtains for my period. A testament to the biological imperative of reproduction, and my high estrogen levels I suppose.



  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited April 2015

    Daruamama . im so glad u r doing well on dd taxol. I'm not getting any extra steroids other than at infusion so I'm gonna ask about those for sure. I too have really high estrogen levels. I asked the mo if we were gonna measure them when I start tomoxifin and she acted like it wasn't necessary because of being thrown into chemopause and them tomixipause. Not sure I'm comfortable assuming my levels will be reduced to low levels. She explained tomixifin doesn't lower estrogen it blocks it. So im sure its just me not understanding fully how it works .

    Had a big group dinner with friends last night for my 50 birthday. Its great to have the support of others. We toasted to my health.

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited April 2015

    anyone having issues with their scar, or fluid build up near scar or even under arms? I have had to be drained twice, and I know it is starting to fill a little more on the dominant side, which they tell me is overuse. But still worry about lymphadema build up

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited April 2015

    I had the fluid build up right after surgery and prolly from overuse. Was drained once but then filled back up. It created a n opening so I'd let it squirt out in the shower. BC said body will eventually absorb it.

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited April 2015

    I guess I am inpatient, cause surgeon said it should absorb eventually but I think it needs draining again...oh well.

  • SugarCakes
    SugarCakes Member Posts: 353
    edited April 2015

    last week I was in Charleston, SC with customers all week. Much walking with tours of the company and tours and dinners around downtown charleston. Noticed my ankle (and maybe calf) on the left side (BC side) is slightly swollen. This week I am in Vancouver, WA. Flew out Monday. Mostly in all day meetings. Ankle is still swollen. Anyone have swelling during their chemo on the breast cancer side? Might the chemo have some effect on the lymph nodes function? I'm probably just doing too much.

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited April 2015

    Sugarcakes, Maybe ask your doc about whether wearing a compression stocking might help?

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited April 2015

    Live deliciously, Dense dose Taxol hit me on day 5 and I'm still out of it on day 6. Saw MO today. We're adjusting my dexamethasone schedule for the next round to days 3,4,5. He said I could take it a day or two longer if I wanted to also to try and fend off SEs. Feel wiped out, but still rather this than nausea

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited April 2015

    the fluid under my arm looked like I was growing a third boob. But bec it was so close to after surgery it bust the seam and I was able to massage it out in the shower. Since u don't have that opening anymore def get it drained. Don't even wait for your appt. just go to the er when it's slow and let them address it. Meanwhile ice packs did help the fluid go down. Keep us poste

  • Inasen2011
    Inasen2011 Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2015

    SugarCake,

    I have swollen ankles, both legs, went to see my MO and he wasn't surprised. Apparently, this is due to Taxotere. He has advise me to rest my legs by keep them elevated as much as possible at home. In addition I got Rx for Lasix (water pills) + Potassium supplement. It supposed to clear itself in time, the med is as needed (optional).

    Best wishes to all. I have been reading your posts religiously, never posted due to my English as a second language. The medical terminology is still a maze to me.

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited April 2015

    Hives anyone?Breaking out. Treatment was last Wednesday 4/22. Why now

    Also skin on my neck and hands is darkening. What is this mess???

  • Bikerbabe17
    Bikerbabe17 Member Posts: 116
    edited May 2015

    Last chemo today!!! Yah🎉. Hope the next few weeks are kind to me. Have my appointment with the RO in a few weeks, so I'll find out what's next in this journey. My chemo Angels, I graduated from chemo💗. My MO says I don't have to come in for the weekly blood check, as I've been doing so well. 2 whole weeks of no dr's appointments...who hoo👏👏👏

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  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited May 2015

    woo hoo Bikerbabe! 💃🎈💃🎈💃🎈💃🎈💃 congratulations

  • wrmbrownie
    wrmbrownie Member Posts: 114
    edited May 2015


    I have finished Taxol and started my first A/C last week. I can't wait for my fingers and feet to get back to normal. My big toenails are completely white like they might eventually come off (one was loose last week) and so many other toenails are black. My fingernails have brown spots on them. I just started feeling better from A/C yesterday.

    Bikerbabe...congrats!

  • Dromedary
    Dromedary Member Posts: 26
    edited May 2015

    I'm a Janie-come-lately, having only just joined, but finding all your experiences v. helpful. Am on dose-dense AC then Taxol - 4 of each at two-week intervals. Should finish end of May, to give myself a month to recover before my son's wedding in July! Great to have a target to aim for.

    AC wasn't too bad overall but first Taxol hit me on day 3 with unbelievable joint pain in the legs, and stomach ache/cramps. Joint pain was managed with an anti-inflammatory after a day or so, but stomach ache continued for several more days. Then it all went away and I had a great week! Today I did no. 2 Taxol treatment and am already having some diarrhoea, for the first time ever - let's see what this cycle has in store! (taking Imodium or equivalent as am not in U.S.)

    The doc recommended the following to help with SE: Took the usual dexa in the morning before treatment and will take 2 more x 4mg for 3 days following; took 400g Ibuprofen this evening and the same tomorrow morning, as preventive and as long as any pain continues; drink LOADS of fluids. I also continue to do 5 daily injections on myself of Neulasta. No problems with that at all so far.

    Just wanted to say WOOHOO to Bikerbabe - you look great and that happiness you're radiating is something for us all to look forward to! Congrats!

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited May 2015

    Yay Bikerbabe! What a feeling!

    It's 3 weeks since the final TC infusion and I have progressively gotten more neuoropathy in my feet. It's like someone is slowly pulling a sock on and now good back to the arch. My ankles are awollen and the left one doesn't even look like my ankle anymore. Sorry others are getting the same issue. Until I read the posts here I was scared. Have gained more weight over the last 2 weeks. Waiting for the eyebrows to go.

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited May 2015

    Marksgirl I'm a PT too. Work in Early Intervention. Love pediatrics but taking a leave of absence for a while as there is no way I would be around the runny noses in the beginning of the chemo. Too tired to function, don't have strength to lift the kids and am too stiff to tie my own shoes. Was doing 30 min of cardio pre chemo. Now try to walk to my mailbox.

  • Marksgirl
    Marksgirl Member Posts: 65
    edited May 2015

    Chloesmom

    I was watching you because you are ahead of me in chemo - CT!   I had in my head you also had micropapillary but I see I was wrong.   I belong in March group but followed Feb to see what lie's ahead!   I loved peds (did home care birth to 3 and preschool).   I currently am working homecare/geriatrics so I could be home for my special needs young man (20) and 16 year old.    After 2 years post High School, we finally have a program for him!   I have been working very little also - fatigue, avoiding respiratory patients, C diff patients etc.   But 2 others in college, yikes.   I don't work enough to have sick time (per diem).   Good to touch base with another PT!

    I am distressed to see you are having the leg edema issues/weight gain and increasing neuropathy!!!   And 3 weeks after your final infusion????  Can your MD try lasix to get rid of the extra fluid?   Would the extra fluid make the neuropathy worse (meaning it will resolve more or allow those nerves to heal faster if you can get it down?)  Have you tried a mild compression sock?   Lovely time of year for that!   I think my sister loves her nursing socks from TJ Maxx.   I'm hoping if you can get the fluid down you will feel miles better.    (Can you tell I am on steroids??)    I have been curious to find physiologically how long the chemo is working after infusion and am shocked that you have increased symptoms this much later.    Keep us posted and keep getting to that mailbox!!!!

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited May 2015

    face is really broken out now, so I am beginning to believe it is the hercepton( trauza) that is making my face break, could not tell before, but it seems a lot worse and the runny eyes. Fatigue is done till next chemo.

    As for numbness, still the right foot and thumbs. Sure hope it goes away when we are done, some of the other threads seem to indicate, that might not be the case . Sure hope they are wrong. Hang in there gals, we are halfway thru.

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited May 2015

    Marksgirl we have too much in common. Just I'm further along. My older daughter is disabled and we support her. My younger one is 4 years younger and is in osteopathic school finishing her 3rd year. It's been hard for me not to work but I've been paying for private long term disability for years. Just the first 3 months waiting for it to kick in were a bummer. I work in EI plus see kids with profound multiple disabilities so have lots of lifting to have to do and since I can't get my shoes on so have a way to go. My SLR is down toabout 30 degrees.

    Talked to Hopkins earlier today. Am doing diuretic type foods rather than meds and it has helped a bit. The neuropathy came before the edema. They said it isn't uncommon for the SEs to start a month after done chemo. The stuff is still killing cancer (we hope!!!!) My eyelashes haven't gone yet. They said it might get worse over the next month before it gets better. Am wearing Rx compression hose as my ankle was like a balloon. The good news is the metallic taste is gone. I am back to metal spoons and forks. A friend that had TC said it was about 6 months until the myalgia and stiffness was gone. It's weird as just from the waist down. Feels like we went on a mountain hike yesterday everyday. I am walking like Frankenstein. Everyone doesn't get this so I hope you are spared!

  • Marksgirl
    Marksgirl Member Posts: 65
    edited May 2015

    Chloesmom - I am so sorry we both have a disabled child in common - and breast cancer.   I have a daughter in her first year of a 5 year PA program.    I can feel my sciatic nerves with the CT, grade 1 neuropathy only in my toes but did better my last session so they did not change the dose.    I am glad to hear the CT is still on the attack though.   Have you found a good source that gives the cellular biology of how it works?     It helps deal with the side effects to know what it is accomplishing.   I hope your edema improves and those nerves recover quickly.   Thanks for responding!  

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited May 2015

    Really don't know about how long it is working. Just an assumption others have suggested since the SEs are worsening.

    Went for some osteopathic holistic PT earlier this week to have cranio work to get everything flowing better. Had lots of tension around the liver and she did visceral work o improve mobility and motility. Most helpful. I found a therapist from the IAHE website that had taken all of the cranio and visceral courses. Doing everything I can to optimize my health

  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited May 2015

    hi duramama. I'm sorry to hear you had bad days a week later. Just not fair. I wonder if its the steroids? I only get them at infusion. After Friday (had taxol on Tues) i was doing great. The bone pain was bad and had to use pain pills for 2 days Thurs and Fri. But I could eat what I wanted and the bone pain went away totally on sunday. The toe nails are sore still. So far haven't changed color. My energy level is way up too. At this point I love taxol compared to a/c. My eyebrows are really thinning out. Does anyone else who had chemo after surgery wonder if this stuff is working? Im sure its just paranoia but ?

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited May 2015


    LD this stuff has to be working, it's killing just about everything. Feeling good today again, numbness will probably be with me till done chemo, just hope it doesn't get worse, ans is not long in leaving the body. Acne is drying out with benedryl cream and is not itchy, but face is horrible.

    What is this cranio. stuff? Is this massage therapy of some sorts? What does it help? Very curious here! Looking for anything to improve SE's. Feel better gals!

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited May 2015

    Livedeliciously, I'm feeling much better now, just a stray ache/pain every now and then. If steroids are the problem I'm in big trouble because my doc thinks that's how he's going to manage the pain. His reasoning is that if my pain started on day five - after taking dexamethasone for days 2,3,4- it's probably the steroid that wore off too early. We're going to try starting them a day later, to avoid having to take them longer (which was the other option). Days 5-6 were bad days for me on AC so the timing doesn't surprise me much. At any rate, I can cope with the discomfort. I'm still happy to be off adriamycin. My next Taxol is Friday.

    I've lost feeling in my left pinky toe. Years ago, when I waitressed, I occasionally would lose sensation there so I'm not surprised that's where it started. Hope it doesn't spread. So far nails are OK. Dry patches on skin. My taste buds are screwed up too. I've got about 1/3 of my eyebrows left. Some top eye lashes remain, most bottom lashes are gone. I'm choosing to believe that all these things mean the medicine is working

    I'm a teacher and I've come to the conclusion that I'm not going back to work till the new school year begins. Since January I've been playing it by ear and using up my sick time. I kept thinking that maybe on Taxol I'd feel up for it, but after the last week I can see that it's not going to be the case. Hopefully, I can get myself strong this summer once I'm just doing radiation. Right now it's hard to imagine how I'm going wake up at 5:15 am, climb stairs, run around the building, deal with hundreds of teenagers. I hope my energy levels come back up. I'm amazed at those of you who have worked through all of this.

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