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Starting Chemo May 2015
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  • Jo68
    Jo68 Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2015


    My first post!  Will be starting my first of 6 rounds of FEC-75 on 1st May.  Starting 2 weeks later than planned as I was on holiday when the appointment arrived (pre chemo holiday to Turkey for a bit of sun, and as the kids are likely to miss out on their summer holiday this year), and then put it back another week as my other half has a golf holiday booked, and as he too will be working extra hard for the coming months, thought he deserved the break.

    This is mop up chemo after I had a lumpectomy and node removal, with lovely clear margins, so not worried about delaying it.  However, terrified about doing it!  Hoping there are others out there to join in the journey (although not a journey I would wish on anyone), and we can moan and support and jolly each other along.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited April 2015

    Hi Jo and thank you for starting the May group!

    For you, and all who join this group, we wanted to provide some helpful links, starting with the main Breastcancer.org site's section on Chemotherapy, including info on what to expect with chemo, types of chemo meds, and side effect management. Also, the Treatment Side Effects section is a great resource for tips to help manage any side effects you may experience.

    There are some really helpful key threads here in the Chemo forum too! Great tips and practical advice on the following discussion board threads:

    Also, Last Month's Chemo thread might be informative!

    Hope you find this helpful!

    --Your Mods

  • eaglemom
    eaglemom Member Posts: 76
    edited April 2015

    Hi Jo. It looks like I will be joining you. I just got my first appointment with my MO set for May 06. I expect I will want a port and my GS said he could install that for me. I don't have info on hormone receptor status or HER2 status for my tumour, so I don't know what drugs I might be receiving. I know the treatment will be aggressive since 7/12 nodes were involved (6 macro and 1 micro) and that puts me at stage III. I expect chemo will come before rads since my appt with my RO isn't until June 22.

    Kornelia

  • DayLily15
    DayLily15 Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2015

    Hello jo68, thanks for getting us going.

    im here to moan and jolly with you :)

    thanks for the tip on the thread eagle mom.


  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited April 2015

    Hello all! Yep, I am scheduled to begin TC - 4 sessions, 3 weeks apart, beginning May 14. That's all I know. I do know that I am more nervous about this than I was of surgery! I meet with my MO on May 8, and there is also a chemo class I will be attending.

  • RainbowFan
    RainbowFan Member Posts: 8
    edited April 2015

    Hello. I'm new to the blogging scene but feel the need to connect. I'm scheduled to start TC on May 7, 4 treatments, 3 weeks apart. I have a lot of anxiety about it. I'm a single mom to a kindergartner so am stressed how to continue a sense of normalcy at home. I just had a bilateral mastectomy with reconstruction on April 10 and am still healing from that. Feeling like jumping into chemo while still recovering from surgery is crazy. Looking for any support or guidance, or just new friends to share the journey.

  • DayLily15
    DayLily15 Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2015

    hi rainbow :)

    i hear you about being "healthy and vibrant for the next step, i keeping feeling energetic one day and wiped out the next, i have to learn to pace myself. my son is 14, so not young like yours but i try to nap while he is at school and be more perky when he gets home. at least i think im perky lol.

    ive found much peace and stability on this site, i hope the same for you.

  • RainbowFan
    RainbowFan Member Posts: 8
    edited April 2015

    Hi DayLily! So you feel like you need to nap each day?? What treatment plan are you on? I'm trying to figure out what to expect once the chemo starts, like if I'm going to need help at home.

  • DayLily15
    DayLily15 Member Posts: 144
    edited April 2015

    i have not started chemo yet, my surgery was the same day as yours. i find myself going strong one day and needing to rest more the next day, i still have my drain.

    not sure how chemo will be, so im trying to be as rested as possible. the ladies around here recommend making frozen meals etc. to lessen the load.

    from reading the forums it sounds like each of us has a slightly different reaction to chemo.

    so really i know nothing yet .

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited April 2015

    Hi Rainbowfan, we had the same surgery on the same day. I start the same treatment plan as you on May 14. I, too, am wondering what to expect. Pretty scary for me. I could not take the pain meds after surgery because I got so sick. So, I stopped and just took Tylenol. So, this medicine is a lot stronger and I am worried about SE. However, I am thankful there ARE medicines to get rid of any stray Cancer cells. I want them GONE and never come back! We will have to plow through this together!

  • RainbowFan
    RainbowFan Member Posts: 8
    edited April 2015

    Hi mysunshine48!! Coincidently enough I've opted to push back my chemo start to May 14, didn't want to mess up my Mother's Day, so we are on the same journey my friend. I understand about the pain meds...I had to have them give me an anti nausea to take with the antibiotic and pain pill. The unknown and how it will impact us is very scary, I get it. I'm terrified of chemo. How are you feeling now from the mastectomy...are you regaining your strength and mobility? I had my second fills today, so far so good on that front for me.

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited April 2015

    Hi, Wow, I also had my second fill today! Nothing to it.....even did a couple hours shopping after. I am recovering really well. No pain, just know I had something done! LOL Not really funny, but humor helps. NOT looking forward to chemo! We' have to compare as we sit in the "chair". I have a chemo class tomorrow to learn all about what to expect (sort of).

    I am wearing a great little bra....Cobbie. Soft and stretchy. Goes over the head. I love it. We have a sop that sells them, but I bet there is a website.....will look.

    Anyway, need to get to bed. I cannot lay flat, but prop up pillows and it is working. I usually am up 2 or 3 times a night as I am getting used to drinking 80 oz. of water a day. Drinking a lot helps chemo.....so I have heard.

    So happy to have cyber friends to get through this with me!

    Lynn

  • RainbowFan
    RainbowFan Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2015

    I'm still propping myself up on pillows too, but definitely am improving...yeah! I do notice a difference on my left side though, the side they removed the lymph nodes...I don't have the same range of motion yet.

    I've been reading stuff about penguin cold caps to try and keep your hair and icing your nails....I'm going to ask my MO about it, but was curious if anyone has had any luck with them??

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited May 2015

    I shall be joining you all in May too. May 14 I start cycle 1 of 4 - on a 3 week cycle. Good luck to all,.

  • RainbowFan
    RainbowFan Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2015

    Good luck Jo68 with your first treatment tomorrow! We are here for you if you need to vent or whatever. You got this!

    Welcome CatsRUs!! There are a few of us starting the chemo cocktail May 14 so it will be nice to have company to share the ride. Which cocktail are you being served?

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited May 2015

    thanks Rainbowfan, cocktail is the same as yours. Not sure why it's not showing up... I'll check my settings

  • lindatwo
    lindatwo Member Posts: 122
    edited May 2015

    Hi all, I am scheduled to start once a week Abraxane May 20th, and this will be my third go-round with chemo. For those of you doing TC, I had 4 rounds in 2009, and thought I would just let you know what my experience was. I worked as a school secretary in a very busy stressful office, and would have chemo on Thursday then Neulasta on Friday. After the first treatment I went to work after the Neulasta shot, but the next three treatments I just took the rest of Friday off and spent it shopping. (I have to drive 42 miles for treatment). I usually didn't feel great on Saturday and Sunday, but by Monday I was ready to go back to work. My greatest difficulty with working was my memory. Chemo brain fog was difficult. I found I had to keep really good records and write EVERYTHING down! The amazing thing was that I never had a cold or any other illness even though I had sick kids (and teachers!) use my phone, throw up in my office, etc. I did keep Lysol wipes on my desk and use them diligently as well as hand sanitizer. I managed to go home and cook dinner each night, but that was about all I had the energy for. My husband and daughter helped me with house and yard work. I wish you all the best and hope this will be your only experience with chemo! I hope that all of you have had an opportunity to go to a "Look Good Feel Better" class that is offered by the American Cancer Society. There are other resources out there for help with housekeeping, etc. Linda

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited May 2015


    Catsrus - we are the same medicine and same schedule. I think someone else is too. I hope we can help each other get through this!!!!!!!

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited May 2015



    Linda - Oh, my gosh, so sorry you are facing I his again. I appreciate your sharing your experience on CT.

    Why fo they say you have recurrences? I hate this for you and pray you get rid of this once and for all

  • KJSUN
    KJSUN Member Posts: 44
    edited May 2015

    Hello to all the May chemo starters! I will be starting sometime this month, don't have the cocktail yet, and this is my second time in 2 years. I found out about the recurrence 1 month after the anniversary of my first surgery. Like mysunshine48 I had a bilateral mastectomy 4 weeks ago and am just waiting to start chemo. My first time was pretty easy, no sores, nail problems or anything else much, I even had my regular appetite! I had a little nausea but they give you meds for that. I just want everyone to know that we all react differently to the chemo and not to stress yourself out before you start. I may have a different reaction to the new meds but hopefully not. We will get through this and you are never alone!

  • lindatwo
    lindatwo Member Posts: 122
    edited May 2015

    Ladies, I hope I didn't discourage anyone with my post......that certainly wasn't my intent. I had hoped to show that this chemo is do-able, and that it is still possible to work and continue your life with maybe a little more rest than usual.

    mysunshine4, I was on Femara for 4 1/2 years after chemo and because it is a hormone blocker and I am post menopausal, it caused some side-effects that I was not happy with. SO, talking to a gynecologist, I decided to go against my MO's opinion and use an estrogen cream. She still insists it doesn't penetrate the vaginal wall and if you are on a hormone blocker, it should counter-act that anyway, but I suspect that it may have contributed to my cancer coming back. I guess we'll never know for sure. Thank you for your prayers. I hate that there are so many women going through this, but since we can't change that, at least we can pray and encourage each other!

  • klanders
    klanders Member Posts: 244
    edited May 2015

    Hi All,

    Rainbow - I'm a Michigan girl, too. I had bilateral breast cancer two years ago - BMX with DIEP reconstruction. No chemo was recommended. (Same stats as you, Rainbow, so I'm surprised that they are recommending chemo for you unless your oncotype score was high.) Anyway, like Linda, I chose a different route from the recommended hormonal med. The Tamoxifen made me feel really bad (fatigue, joint pain, etc...) so I went to a naturopathic doc and did supplements instead. That was just one of my mistakes. The other was not realizing that I was at a greater risk for recurrence because they had to go back in to get clear margins on my left breast. So now the cancer is back in the left breast and in 1/3 lymph nodes. I'm joining this group but my 1st chemo was actually yesterday, April 30th. I am doing TC 4x's - every 3 weeks. I wasn't sure what to expect but so far so good. The steroids have made it near impossible to sleep so that's been probably the hardest thing - but tonight was my last steroid pill. I feel a bit weird - taste buds fine so far and no nausea but my tongue feels weird. My whole body just feels odd - but it's all manageable. I actually had a hugely busy day today - walk this morning landed me at an estate sale. Then helped my college daughter get unpacked as she just moved home. PT this afternoon and Neulasta shot this evening. Plus we have a gentleman from Zambia flying in to stay with us beginning tonight (for my husband's work) so I was trying to clean house. I probably over did it today but I'm planning now to rest all weekend - hopefully! A friend of mine says the steroid "high" will have worn off by tomorrow and she says I'll be pretty tired for the next three days. All in all, I'm pleased so far at how I feel. Counting the days until hair loss - I'm expecting it in about 13-14 days. I might be shaving my head on my daughter's 20th birthday. She'll remember THAT birthday for forever!

    I'm doing one different treatment - I went to an Integrative Med doc at University of Michigan and he prescribed Mistle Toe Therapy (Iscador) which is widely used in Europe but not FDA approved yet here. It is supposed to help with the white blood cell count - so maybe I didn't even need the neulasta shot? I have to give myself an injection of the med every 2-3 days. It also supposedly helps with chemo side effects so I'm willing to try it - but it's pretty pricey and not covered by insurance. At my MO's request I've discontinued all my antioxidants until after chemo but she's still letting me take my probiotics and melatonin. OH - if you haven't heard this already - make sure you take Claritin a few days before and after getting the neulasta shot. It supposedly helps immensely with the joint pain. My shot was only 5 hours ago so I'll have to let you know in a few days if it worked... I can't tell yet.

  • CatsRus
    CatsRus Member Posts: 310
    edited May 2015

    Klanders, thanks for letting us know how you are doing...good grief, you have been busy! Interesting info re Claritin, it will be interesting to hear how you get on with it. I also intend to look up the Mistletoe Toe therapy too. Good luck over the next few days, I hope you continue to do well. Keep us updated!

  • RainbowFan
    RainbowFan Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2015

    So very grateful to those who are sharing your experiences with TC. It's very helpful,to hear and we face this monster.

    They did not do the octnotype test on me. I had 5 tumors in my left breast, the largest being 2.5 cm and the rest they referred to as seedlings. They explained that the octnotype is meant for 1 maybe 2 masses, not 5. They did find pre cancerous cells in the right breast. These finding combined is what has lead them to suggest chemo. I was surprised. It I guess I get it when you look at the quantity.

    I am meeting with a naturopathic doctor on Monday to see if there are some natural things I can do. I'm also asking more about the cooling caps to help save your hair.

  • windingshores
    windingshores Member Posts: 704
    edited May 2015

    I have Taxol and Herceptin scheduled for May 13th but it may end up being TC, or even none at all. My tumor was 1.4cm and grade 3 (KI-67 20%), with some "focal" lymphovascular invasion (most likely lymph but not blood vessels). Sentinel nodes were negative.

    I have started Femara since my mastectomy was March 6th and various testing inconsistencies have led to delays. For anyone who has trouble with AI's, I got brand name and started with 1/4 and have so far ramped up to 1/2 each day.

    My Oncotype score was an unexpected 8! But I don't trust it: it was done on a biopsy sample that hasn't really turned out to be representative of the tumor, which is quite varied (ductal and lobular, HER2+ in places but overall score not certain).

    My HER 2 is being retested in three areas, not just one, and with 100 cells counted, not just 20. I am hoping I am negative. So far, two equivocals, one positive, one negative. I'll go with the tie breaker.

    I am surprised at the grade 1's having chemo. This may be for varied reasons. Positive node, HER2+, Oncotype, LVI. I assumed with my grade and other characteristics of my tumor that Oncotype would be high. Two MD's expect me to be "happy" and skip chemo but I was still troubled and found a third MD who recommends chemo and doesn't think the Oncotype trumps everything.

    I find it scary to rely on a commercial company that won't even tell me, or my MD, the actual scores for the 16 genes. How can MD's rely on this test so much on faith? I am leaning toward keeping my chemo appt. on May 13th and will be reading April and May to prepare.

    I have been reading about Luminal B and wondering what that means for my decisions.

    ps Does anyone do CMF anymore? Taxanes may aggravate some neuro problems I already have, one MD told me, but it does seem that you are all on TC, which must mean that it is considered the most effective for many of us.


  • klanders
    klanders Member Posts: 244
    edited May 2015

    TC is pretty standard, I think, for ER+, PR+ and HER2-. HER2+ (or Triple Negative) really changes things. MD Anderson wanted to treat me as basically stage 4 (since mine is a recurrence and it's hard to know for sure if it is "new" or "left overs") and throw the hardest chemo at it -which would have been Taxol weekly for 12 weeks then every 2-3 weeks of Adriamycin and Cytoxan. Adriamycin is tough on the heart, though, and since I'm already going to be radiating near my heart (since it's left breast) I've chosen the less aggressive chemo. Hopefully that won't come back and bite me someday but UM agreed that the aggressiveness of the other treatment didn't seem necessary.

    SO.. two days out and I feel really good. I ended up taking Tylenol PM last night since the steroids (which I had to take one day before, day of, and day after chemo) were making it hard to sleep. That really did the trick. I slept well, feel rested, and I'll probably have to force myself to rest today even though I don't feel like I need to. I've been doing a water/baking soda/salt gargle every time I eat something to be proactive with mouth sores which could develop. I also am using Biotene to rinse. I'm taking the claritin and have little to no bone pain. Honestly, I really don't feel like I just had chemo. Even the Iscador/Mistle Toe Extract is supposed to make you feel a little "flu-ish" for a day but that hasn't happened either. I have excellent docs and people all over the world praying for me. I'm hopeful that I'll continue to have good reports for y'all. We can do this!

    A patient at MD Anderson recommended that I paint my nails black. I'm going to go look that up now to see what that does.

    Kristin

  • tjh
    tjh Member Posts: 469
    edited May 2015

    I am starting May 11, 4 sessions 3 weeks apart. Oncologist highly recommended since Onco score was 25...right in the middle. It was HER negative, small, early, nodes and margins clear, so it is to prevent reoccurance. But I am terrified.

  • crs003
    crs003 Member Posts: 73
    edited May 2015


    I am starting neoadjuvant Chemo on May 4th. I will get weekly Taxol for 12 wks, followed by DD AC for another 12wks, then surgery and rads, and possibly more chemo. I am triple negative and have two tumors about 6cm apart, the largest is about 3.5 cm, but they say that they may be able to get clean margins since I am a bit bigger breasted. I am hoping with chemo that it would improve my surgical outcome.

  • ComposMentis
    ComposMentis Member Posts: 12
    edited May 2015

    Dear May Group--I think this is my group, and I appreciate the opportunity to join in as we share experiences. My first chemo is scheduled for Monday, May 11th. It will be start with a cycle of DD AC. The schedule will be once every 2 weeks x 4 times. After this portion finishes, I will then do Taxol 1 time per week x 12 weeks.

    I am having my mediport installed on Thursday, May 7th.

    Throughout this journey, which started in March 2015, it is a bit like being swept up in a frenetic windstorm, and hurled toward a destination so vaguely known and understood. I am pleased to have surgery behind me (although am still cleaning up some conditions with PT), and ready to move into the chemo phase.

    Thanks so much!


  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited May 2015

    klanders - painting your nails a dark opaque color is to try to prevent nail lifting, lines and ridges, and discolored areas associated with Taxotere.  It is thought that preventing light penetration to the nail bed helps with this, as does icing the fingers and toes during the Taxotere infusion.  I used bags of frozen peas and started about 10 minutes prior to the infusion and continued for about 10 minutes past it.  Nail lifting and loss can be a difficult side effect, and cause permanent issues so the polish and icing are easy things you can do to possibly prevent this. 

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