Post Mastectomy Pain Syndrome (PMPS)

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  • daisylover
    daisylover Member Posts: 310
    edited March 2015

    Dontdoalnd, I took Gabapentin 3X a day for several months until my nerves calmed down. I also found a second PT who specializes in MLD massage, scar tissue massage, and breast cancer patients in general. The PT and Gabapentin helped me feel like myself again. (I did not have reconstruction, though) Best Wishes

  • DontdoALND
    DontdoALND Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2015

    yes. I get PT but I still have lots of pain.

  • Bexter3
    Bexter3 Member Posts: 61
    edited April 2015

    about the pain... I'm 4 1/2 years out and still have severe pain. BUT radio frequency ablation, AKA neurotomy AKA Rhizotomy has saved my life! I never slept longer than 2 hours before I had my first one April 2014. Now I am finally mostly pain free in between treatments. It literally saved my life. I had my entire funeral planned and after seeing the 11th pain specialist, he agreed to "try something outside of the box." They've done it for years for back pain sufferers. I simply have the nerves that were damaged by the bilateral mastectomy and lymphendectomy burned off where they come out of the spine. Thoracic Vertabrae facet joints T 2-5 on right side and T 2-4 on the left. It hurt like hell, but the prize is minimal pain for 6 months or so, however long it takes for the nerves to regenerate.

    DONT GIVE UP! Keep going to pain management, specifically spine and nerve, until someone helps you.

    Private message me if you want more details. Cyber hugs!

  • Soniatoronto
    Soniatoronto Member Posts: 23
    edited April 2015

    Dear Warrior Princesses

    I belong to a group of support for women with PMPS. We give support and we share information about POST MASTECTOMY PAIN SYNDROME.
    If you are in pain, or maybe you don't know you have this syndrome, please send me a private message.
    The MORE, the BETTER. Any woman can help you, or any other maybe your advice can help somebody.
    Thank You!!

    The group's address is

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/759940397434876/

  • msphil
    msphil Member Posts: 1,536
    edited April 2015

    hello all, i am a long term Survivor 21 yr this yr, and i too had and still have some discomfort,But i was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia, which is what they called it, but it is due to cancer treatment, i am so happy to still be here and thankful. msphil( idc,stag2, 3 nodes, L mast, chemo andrads and5 yrs on tamoxifen)

  • Soniatoronto
    Soniatoronto Member Posts: 23
    edited April 2015

    Would you want to join the PMPS group?

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/759940397434876/?f...

    Looking forward to see you there!

  • LoriWNY
    LoriWNY Member Posts: 193
    edited April 2015

    msphil--So glad to hear from a 21-year survivor!  Congratulations.  I am sorry that you are still having discomfort, however.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited April 2015

    Glad there are people still posting here sometimes since I don't do Facebook.

  • anotherday2015
    anotherday2015 Member Posts: 28
    edited April 2015

    Yes--get right in there!! They'd probably do an MRI. That is a common area for tumors--the brachial plexus. I hae a tumor that keeps growing and sits on this area--major arteries and neres. They are inoperable, can't be radiated, and are considered seerely painful when they get big.

    The last thing my new primary said to me last year was, 'How long has that tumor been on your neck?" 'Where?" "At your collarbone." I reached and felt it, then felt for the margins. I looked at him and said "Ohhh, shit."

    Despite my history, he says to wait 6 months to see if it changes. I was in shock. The next morning, I called the office and asked for an order for an MRI stat. Sure enough, it warranted to be excised. Rad, the neck surgeon and my former onc were more concerned with getting paid and didn't think I needed to be fast-tracked... It took 5 months to get me on the table. By then it had tripled in size and was inoperable. The rest is history. I was sent for a PET scan, and some areas lit up like a Christmas tree, where there was focal uptake. If you run a search for my posts today about pain and bone mets, there's more on the subject.

    Hope you get good news.



  • whippetmom
    whippetmom Member Posts: 6,920
    edited April 2015

    ASCO News re: Treatment for PMPS

    I have not been to this thread for awhile, so I apologize if this is "old" news. In the event it is not, it is worth pursuing as a solution to chronic PMPS pain. A non-surgical, non-invasive treatment and so simple if it works.

    Deborah


  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited April 2015

    Deborah - that's a most interesting article. Thanks for posting. Jan

  • Soniatoronto
    Soniatoronto Member Posts: 23
    edited April 2015

    I went to my Pain Clinic and they did this injections, but unfortunately it did not help!


  • ReeseeB
    ReeseeB Member Posts: 6
    edited April 2015

    Hello fellow survivors. I would like to invite women with Post Breast Therapy Pain Syndrome (including: chronic chest wall pain, scar pain, arm pain, and/or neuropathy following breast surgery and/or radiation) to join the Facebook Post Breast Therapy Pain Syndrome support group: www.facebook.com/groups/265320... You are not alone. We have over 300 women in our group. All are welcome.


    Here are some informational links regarding PBTPS:

    http://www.cancerlynx.com/pbtpspage1.pdf

    http://www.cancerlynx.com/pbtpspage2.pdf

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7844435.stm

    Thank you : )

  • LindaKR
    LindaKR Member Posts: 1,577
    edited May 2015

    I get lots of great info off of the FaceBook page that ReeseeB mentioned above and....

    Another great FB page just started - Surviving Post Mastectomy Pain Syndrome - https://www.facebook.com/groups/759940397434876/

    They are both a great support!!! and so many women to answer questions and support each other.


  • whippetmom
    whippetmom Member Posts: 6,920
    edited May 2015

    SoniaToronto: How many times did they do this procedure?

  • notadaygoesby
    notadaygoesby Member Posts: 21
    edited May 2015

    Thank you Whippetmom-  Great article.  That is my next step on May 22.  The only question I have is that my Dr wants to do the T2 and from what I'm reading most do the T4 and T5, I believe.  Do you know any thing about the difference in location? 

  • whippetmom
    whippetmom Member Posts: 6,920
    edited May 2015

    Sorry for the delay in responding....but no, I do not know anything about the differece in location. Something to discuss with your physician. Let us know if it helps!

  • AmyQ
    AmyQ Member Posts: 2,182
    edited June 2015

    Just read this article from the NYT about PMPS - finally someone is taking it seriously.

    Amy

  • Ginger48
    Ginger48 Member Posts: 1,978
    edited June 2015

    amy-I just read that and came on to post the link. It's about time.

  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited June 2015

    This is a good article as well. It is nice to see surgeons worried about our QOL

    http://www.elle.com/culture/news/a28636/a-radical-idea/

  • mlp730
    mlp730 Member Posts: 89
    edited June 2015

    First of all, let me say how sorry I am that you feel so lousy. What are you currently taking for pain relief? From my own personal experience, the last thing I would do is any kind of surgery. More surgery creates more scar tissue and that can make things worse. In addition to this, more surgery can make you at risk for infections.

    I had a bilateral mastectomy 6 years ago with reconstruction/ deconstruction and I think I've tried just about everything from PT, trials with different meds, acupuncture. I currently take a combination of 450 mg of Lyrica, 60 mg of Cymbalta and OxyContin, 30 x2 per day. I can say that this combo takes the edge off but by no means am pain free. Some days are way better than others. I do try to exercise regularly like the treadmill, Pilates or a low impact toning. I've been battling the scale with the Lyrica! If anything, it helps me mentally.

    Hoping that you find some relief!

    Mary Lou Pavone

  • Deblc
    Deblc Member Posts: 479
    edited June 2015

    I had a mastectomy Nov 2013 and had decreasing pain as time went on. After about a year I had pain very rarely. However in the past month or so I have been having constant, daily pain. Not the shooting zapping nerve kind...more like a constant deep ache and tightness, like my muscles are all clenched up. I thought I was having a heart attack! I notice also that when I wear a bra and prostheses it makes it worse. Does this sound like PMPS? Or should I be worrying about recurrence?

  • honeybair
    honeybair Member Posts: 746
    edited June 2015

    Debic, so sorry to hear about what you are experiencing. I am two years post surgery and have found that I too am experiencing more pain but thankfully my bra and prosthesis seem to help me to feel less discomfort. What we are experiencing, in my opinion, is nerve damage and disturbance. My DH rubs my back and massages my scar area each night which I have found to bring much needed relief. Still, sleeping through the night because of enough pain to disturb me but not enough to seek drugs is slowly driving me bonkers. I am seriously considering getting message each week.

  • Deblc
    Deblc Member Posts: 479
    edited June 2015

    Thanks for replying Honeybair, the worse is not knowing what is causing the pain. My surgeon acts all shocked whenever I tell him about pain. Even just two weeks after surgery his attitude was that I was the only patient he had that complained about pain !!!! And now, over a year later, he claims that nobody has pain this long after the surgery. So he wants me to do scans. I don't want to do unnecessary scans, but I just don't know if this is post mastectomy pain or some thing else.

  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited June 2015

    Deb - looks like you're almost year out from Rads & finished with Herceptin. If you haven't had any scans since you finished treatment, I'd personally be pushing for scans since I'm also a Stage 3 patient. I'm getting a CT w/contrast every 6 months & pushing for a PET once a year instead of just the CT.

  • Deblc
    Deblc Member Posts: 479
    edited June 2015

    Thanks Minus. My MO does not do scans after treatment unless there are symptoms, and I was OK with that, for various reasons. But I guess pain is THE symptom, so I should be looking into it. I just don't want to, because I finished treatment not too long ago, and should they find anything, I am in no frame of mind to go back into any treatment !

  • honeybair
    honeybair Member Posts: 746
    edited June 2015

    Debic, my surgeon also had a blase attitude when I complained about pain, but wrote me a prescription for Neurontin which I did not fill after reading all the side effects. If you are in pain at your surgical site, then my guess would be pain syndrome. You learn more about everything pertaining to this disease, treatments and side effects than any doctor is going to admit. Their major concern was saving our lives, no matter what we have to live with each day. I do hope you can find relief in some way from your suffering.

  • Deblc
    Deblc Member Posts: 479
    edited June 2015

    thanks Honeybair !!

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited July 2015

    Honeybear: Maybe we have the same surgeon - the 'Oh I only had one pt with this and she had some unexplained overnight recovery.' Yeah, like I believed him when he also did not know the origin of a burn on my side or who put the stitch under it. His reply was Neurontin which I am taking at 900mg/day with no side effects so far. Chest tightness and burning continues. My PCP agrees with the Neurontin and at least acknowledges the wide spread problem of various kinds of post surgical pain and that there really is no definitive explanation as to cause and treatment.

    You are right about patients having more knowledge about pain than most doctors yet, as you say the pain drives one bonkers. Sorry you are having pain of undetermined origin.

  • honeybair
    honeybair Member Posts: 746
    edited July 2015

    Thanks, magiclight. I use heat and massage for most of my pain relief. Some days the pain is less than others. Who knows why? All I know is that this disease and its treatments radically change our bodies.

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