Starting Chemo March 2015
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Kathi aka SizzleStch-I was diagnosed with lichen sclerosis five years ago and kind of got used to the pain. Every once in awhile I make a real effort to do something about it. Can you tell me where you get the Emu oil? Online pharmacy maybe? I'd love to try it. Nothing else has worked.
Theresa glad you got that cookie and I pity any poor fool that tries to take it!
Don't fool yourselves into thinking if you have a mastectomy you can stop worrying about recurrence. I had one on the right side in 2011 and it came back first month in 2015 right along the incision site. I think I found it quickly because I massage the scar line every night. Nobody ever told me that's right where it usually comes back. I kept waiting for the good breast to go bad...it had atypical lobular hyperplasia but my BS saw no necessity to take it too. I've wondered for four years,, if I made the right decision. I think it's a very personal choice but just stay vigilant and don't be lured into a false sense of security. Monitor closely even after mx!
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Trvler, it was the best cookie I have ever eaten!
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SoccerMom: I am on Taxol only and it is a piece of cake for me compared with what I'm seeing some of you going through on AC. No nausea at all. I feel mostly normal except for about a day and a half per week. I do have a dry bloody nose basically all the time and my digestive system is sort of out of whack, too, but it's weird what you get used to as acceptable in this whole thing.
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Diane, I get the emu oil at a health food store. I would ask your MO before using it because I have TN BC and it may be different for you as to what you can use.
I was diagnosed with LS about 4 years ago but am post menopausal and with my husband having prostate problems don't deal with a lot of the problems younger women do. I definitely found that the Emu Oil over time made less flare ups. Hope you find it a help.
Thanks for the info on checking the MX scars. I am one that did the double MX (with immediate reconstruction) because I wanted less worry...I didn't want to do it again. Still think I made the right decision but I know I need to be on watch especially being TN.
Ok..feel bad for me guys....this diabetic can't have cookies...well, at least til my sugars go down a bit from those dang steroids! Took last one for this round at dinner... I am so sick of protein... Tomorrow...I will probably eat something delightfully bad :-)
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Thank you!! I would like some 'normal' days. With the AC, I was maybe getting 3-4 'normal' days every 2 weeks. None of the nausea meds they have given me work very well. I think the worst part is the metallic taste in my mouth constantly. It's tough when bottled water tastes horrible!!!
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Little Jack is so cute with his new tag! Our poster boy! I hope you're mind and body are feeling better Katy.
I have my round 3 on tues and I'm not looking forward to all the possibilities but will like to be half way done. Who all knows if they are going to have radiation after chemo? Mine said probably but I want to hear some statistics and solid research as to why before agreeing. My tumor was removed first and the sentinel node was neg. I'll do whatever it takes but I'm hoping it's a no.
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Yep, I'll definitely be having rads. My chemo is neoadjuvant, so I'll get a few weeks of recovery after my last chemo (6/23 if all goes well!), then the bmx and rads. I met with the RO before treatment began, and she said that radiation would greatly improve my chances of a cure. (That was before the PET even showed possible lymph node infiltration, so I think the decision came down to size, grade, and markers.)
The fatigue has been much heavier with round 3, Diane, and I've had a little breakthrough nausea, but it's been the easiest of the rounds so far. At least I'm sleeping and healing my body instead of laying here awake and miserable! I try not to feel too guilty for sleeping all weekend. I'm learning to listen to my body, and the body says REST. I find that I bounce back faster if I just give in instead of trying to warrior through with my own agenda. Appetite is hit and miss, but no big D so far, so I think that being able to stay more hydrated is helping too.
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Diane, I be getting rads as well. I'm doing neoadjuvant chemo and will be done June 26, although I may have to do one more chemo in July - not sure yet. Then I'll have 7 weeks off (should have been 5 but there were scheduling conflicts, so I chose 7 instead of a 4 week break) before my BMX. Then I'll start rads 8 weeks after that and should finish Thanksgiving week. I have positive lymph involvement at this point, so that's why rads are being included in my treatment plan. My surgeon said, though, that if I have a complete response from the chemo and that my surgery margins all are good, she would make a case for me not to have rads. The rads scare me as the chance for lymphedema greatly increases in my arm since I'll have a lymph node dissection as well.
SoccerMom, the taxol has been so much easier for me than the AC. I feel pretty much normal, just more fatigued at the end of the day. I now go to bed when my kids go to bed and it really helps to get a couple extra hours of sleep.
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For now, the plan is for me to have rads after chemo. But I'm going to try to find out why, and if it's really necessary. I'm thinking it's most likely because I'm triple positive.
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6 weeks of rads on the schedule for me too...
I woke up this morning feeling like I'm getting a cold. Sore throat which went away after the baking soda salt swish but I just kind of have that "feeling" all over. Normally I'd hit the Airborne but I've read that vitamin C is no good during chemo. Have you all heard that too? I'm on day 12 after round three so I worry wbcs are at their lowest, guess ill just plan to stay in, drink lots of water and hope for no fever. Has anybody been able to kick a cold during this mess? I'm just gonna think positive!
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I will be doing rads, too.
Slothabout - each session of chemo I get that same feeling of a cold coming on about the 2nd week, give or take. I up my juicing during that time to help give my immune system a boost and also up my Biotene use since it helps with the sore throat.
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Thanks Amy, I've been sitting here kicking myself cause I slacked on the juicing last week, I went to protein smoothie in the morning and veggie juice in pm. Previously I was doing juice am and pm. Ill go grab some bags of kale and fruits and get to juicing . Hope it's just the SE of the day!! Good excuse to stay in sweats all day and watch movies!
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I've felt like I've had a cold for about a week and a half, too. Super congested, sore throat, and my ears keep popping. Nothing has brought relief. I've been taking cold and sinus, and the sore throat seems to have let up, as well as the ears popping. Now just waiting for the congestion to let up.
Went to the gym three times this week! I'm super weak since I haven't been since before my surgery, which was in December. Oh well, at least I went! Trying to take my life back from cancer.
And good news - coffee finally tastes normal again! I'm SO EXCITED!
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Sloth- chiming in here too on the cold/flu like symptoms. I've had this with all 3 chemos now. I am on day 10 after chemo 3 and have it now. First swollen glands in the throat, sore, head pressure and headaches, but not migraine, general fatigue. The first time it started in day 4-5, lasted several days. With the next I two chemos, I noticed it came again, but a bit later, and stayed longer. I have always been quite susceptible to upper respiratory infections, and my counts were low last time, but not so much early on. I have called the onc about it and they are most concerned that I watch my temperature. And hydrate.
They are quite stern about NOT taking any OTC cold medicines that has anything in it that would suppress a fever. So read the labels for Motrin, Tylenol, et al. if you take OTC cold/sinus medicines. Also, once again, for those who have high white counts this is not nearly the problem. I am speaking more to those with know low wbcs among us.
As Indygal said above, I do try to listen to my body and I just rest when the fatigue and other SEs come at once. I just don't think your body can fight wars on all fronts. I am juicing too, continue with the Lysine and baking soda swill, but have stopped all other vitamins and supplements during chemo, mainly because they haven't done trials including them, and you would never know, no matter how good (supplement, vitamin, whatever, really) something is at protecting cells, could it also protect cancer cells?)
I hate to be doom and gloom. I did a lot of research before I made my final treatment decisions with my MO. At that point, I'm stopped with the googling, and put my faith in him. It's only a period of months, and I am going to not try to outwit the cancer, or be the smartest cancer patient out there. I am going to try to follow instructions and listen to my body. That itself is hard enough to do.
I have to say I am very touched by the bravery of all of you who have shared your plans for rads and surgery after your chemo. Neoadjudvant therapy has shown to be one of the most successful new ways to apply traditional therapies, and I'm so glad you are able to take advantage of it. It does makes the treatment calendar so much longer. I want to apologize if I ever say anything (I know I have) about being halfway done, etc. it is insensitive of me to fail to recognize that some of my sisters here have so much longer to go. I will be here for you after I finish. Just because they hook me up for the last time won't mean I'm done. I will follow you and haunt you to your new threads if this is no longer the best place for you to get support. But I hope it is, and let's none of us forget that's why we are going to Eileen's place on Lake Arrowhead next spring!
Diane- Jack is very proud of his new tag. My good spirits have returned, but my body lags behind. As I mentioned, I'm also having the sore throat/glands thing and it's almost noon and I'm still in bed. Listening to my body. I may stay here all day.
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WPMoon- as a coffee LOVER myself, I can relate to what important news this is., it is so great you can enjoy your morning cup of coffee. You just won one back from the big C!
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Katy, I'm glad you're getting rest. I too may have been insensitive about being half done after Tuesday. Fortunately they excised the tumor prior to chemo so I shouldn't need more surgery for now anyhow. He told me to not worry about the rads until closer to the end of chemo but I'm going to get the referral on spa day so I can talk to the RO about what is recommended. I have to be careful to not be so cynical about their intent; thinking they may propose radiation because it's a big money maker not because it's necessary. I know the decisions are made some times but I'm not smart enough to know what's best with my own treatment. I'll just accept whatever comes.
I shouldn't have sold my juicer. Was really into it last year but the clean up was such a pain. If I had more time I wouldn't care.
IndyGal-Thanks for feedback since you're triple positive too. My whatever their called, scores were all threes. I don't know what goes into making the decision and I'm staying away from Dr. Google since I scared the crap out of myself researching HER2 cancer. I am glad you're doing pretty well with this round. My MO said it was cumulative so it could be worse third and fourth rounds. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Katy-thanks for the reminder about our lake retreat together. We all need something to hold onto. Feel better soon!
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Slothabout - I slack on my juicing, too. Especially when I am feeling like crap that first week out from an infusion. I just don't have the energy to get up and do it even though it is probably when I would benefit from it the most. My girls like to help with feeding in the veggies so if I can manage to get off the couch and at least get things started, they'll often take care of the rest. Kids are great for slave labor!
Wpmoon - awesome job on getting to the gym! I'm so jealous about the coffee. To me it still tastes like a cup of hot. That's all, just hot.
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I am into thinking about the present so when everyone has been talking about the halfway point, I was thinking in terms of chemo, even though I still have rads coming up. Being halfway through chemo is something to celebrate, regardless of what is coming next! Those who are done with AC and are moving onto the next stage of chemo, that is also something to celebrate, even if there are months left on the next chemo cocktail. Who was it on here that said we should be celebrating all the milestones?
Finally got myself a smart phone after years of a flip phone. Now, who can teach me how to use this thing?
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those magic phones are supposed to teach you themselves, Amy! Just start pushing buttons
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funny that two of you just mentioned googling. I let myself fall down a scary rabbit hole this morning right here on this site, looking further into my ILC characteristics . I wish I could educate myself more without scaring myself into a panic attack. I wish my MO welcomed my questions instead of brushing me off, then I might feel like I had someone looking out for me, but that hasn't been the case so far. I think I need to watch an uplifting chick flick and stick to this thread, and just stay focused on the task at hand.
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Sloth- did you ever watch the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants? Definitely chick flick, you might cry some, but will will be uplifted at the end. Promise. Amazon has it for rent. Worth $4.
Speaking of articles, I just read on this site a very helpful one about complimentary therapies.
Most mentionable on this thread was that acupuncture gets a very high score for alleviating vomiting and nausea induced by chemotherapy. It may be of benefit to some of you. Plenty of other good suggestions in here too.
http://www.breastcancer.org/research-news/guidelin...
xoxo
K
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Funny you should mention that, Slothabout. I have done the same thing right here on the boards. After wandering onto the CT board and from there to the Hair board, I've scared myself silly. I also came across a board about "what I wish I didn't know" or something like that. It was awful! I am sticking only to here from now on!
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I did the same thing and went reading things on the internet today....I have been trying very hard not to do that....I am an ex computer tech and have always used the Internet as a resource.....not now....I get too worried. I want to stay as positive as possible. So I am sticking here too. :-)
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Katy: I don't think you are being insensitive at all. CELEBRATE any point you want. It doesn't bother me.
I had to stop looking too far ahead. The most I can do now is look at a few of the Taxol SE's on the weekly Taxol board. I don't read much about surgery and I definitely don't read about rads yet, even though there is a good chance I will have them. I just need to get through the day. The weekends are harder for me for some reason. I feel like I should be doing more with the kids and they should be doing more. They are happy to read, watch some tv and just hang out. I feel guilty about that.
Also still my heart is jumping around and it is uncomfortable. I don't know if it's from the steroids or the AC but part of me doesn't want to know. I have taken less Ativan this time and I think that might be why I am noticing it more this time. I think the ativan slows my heart rate. But I also think it is constipating so I have tried to only take it if I have to.
WP: I am glad you can enjoy your coffee again. LIttle things like that really help.
I went to get a mani/pedi for the first time in a while today. My lady who I have been going to for a couple of years is a BC survivor. Her sister died about 2 years ago and her 30 something year old daughter just had a BMX about 2 months ago. They are from Ukraine and attribute it all to Chernobyl. I was kind of looking forward to it and dreading it at at the same time. I had to ask her to stop talking about cancer when she started talking about going through a second round of chemo, which I guess her sister did. She means well. But I have to stop it. I just can't talk about it anymore sometimes.
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Trvler- I think it is great that you have raised your kids to be happy reading, and obviously, you are living your dx in such a way so as not to alarm them. I applaud you for that.
It is a very difficult skill for me, and maybe for everybody, to stay in the moment. Morbid curiosity under the guise of "research" is certainly something I have been guilty of. I remember somebody in business once asking me if I knew how to eat an elephant. (Gross, I thought). He said, "One bite at a time". I think you staying where you are now, just today, is wise, not weak.
I'm so glad you gave yourself the gift of the mani/pedi today. I feel so bad for your aesthetician. I'm also glad you had the strength to ask her to stop. That was right of you to do that. The lines can get blurred so easily, and I'm sure she see you as one of the few people who "get it , because you do.
But I would ask you most kindly and respectfully to get it done somewhere else next time, so the experience can be completely about you. The you that's just a girl who wants her nails done. xoxo
K
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Katy: You may be right. I overtip her, too, because my heart breaks for her. It was so hard on her to lose her sister.
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My gosh it has been a long time since I posted here...
If you don't mind, I have a question: has anyone run into an allergic reaction to the Taxotere after 10 days past their third treatment??? I was sitting in court the other day with the typical runny nose I have from days 5-6 through days 14 when I started to feel like sand mites were biting me all over. I didn't feel any tongue swelling or anything. But the time I got home from work my feet were so swollen I could hardly get them out of my heals. I took my clothes off and found what looked like pink bumps (turned out to be the bg of hives) starting to blossom all over my body. Of course call my MO office and they told me to take Benadryl. I told him that I had already taken two. He gave me a prescription for Hydroxyzine plus more Ativan. By four in the morning I could feel my through closing and I got out of bed covered in hives! All over my hands and feet especially. A trip to the ER resulted in an all day event where my MO's office wasn't even going to come see me until the next morning???? The Doctor on-call who looked at me reassured me he spoke with my MO. The nurse in charge wasn't impressed and made the practice On-Call doctor come take a look at me at 6:00pm! His took pictures!! Then he said I was probably done with Taxotere. What does that mean?? I am supposed to have another round of chemotherapy. Any one else run into this?
Thanks!
Kimberly
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Kimberly- I have not had any reactions to Taxotere, but I wanted to say how very scary. I'm glad you are ok.
I wouldn't worry about any comments made from anyone other than your MO. Don't try to interpret your future. Give your body what it needs now, and good luck with your next MO meeting. They have lots of drugs, not everyone can take every drug. The other drugs can kick cancer's ass too. They will know what to do.
I know it is so hard, but do try hard not to worry.
Gentle hugs, Katy
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Kachincolor, did you change anything? Laundry soap? Eat a different food? Anything like that? Any change In anything at all? The other thing I can think of is hives etc. related to a flu or cold or some kind of virus. Just trying to think of anything it can be besides chemo. My daughter breaks out in terrible hives sometimes from virus related illnesses and she ends up having to do a course of prednisone to get in under control. She will get terrible hives, and then a few days later come down with the flu or a cold. Not saying it isn't chemo related, but just trying to think of alternatives. So, so sorry that you are having a reaction. Did they get you under control? It must have been really scary.
My MO tells me every visit stay off the internet. She said all the stats, etc. are horribly outdated, and they lump all stages and types into one category, so the statistics are skewed. Of course, sometimes I can't help myself....guess I keep hoping to find the magic aha treatment or something.
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kachincolor - they may switch you to Taxol, since it is half-strength of Taxotere, or Abraxane for your last infusion, which is essentially Taxol without the solvent. Allergic reaction is actually pretty common - I also had rash problems, but yours sounds pretty severe. Have you been getting steroids with each infusion?
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