Plz help! -single or double mastectomy?

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  • vettegirl
    vettegirl Member Posts: 235
    edited April 2015

    As everyone has said-it is a personal decision.  I am one who chose to have a masectomy on my left-6 tumors in that one, and a lumpectomy on my right-one tumor in that one.  My breast surgeon told me that there are no statistics that say having a masectomy on that side would be better than a lumpectomy.  I chose the way I did so that I could at least feel normal on one side.  I have always been told-if its going to come back-it will come back-regardless of if your breast is there or not.  For me-my decision was for the best FOR ME.  My masectomy breast makes me sad-it is very scarred, and the implant is hard as a brick-I miss my soft and squishy boob.  My lumpectomy side had a lift with nipple moved up and has a small 300cc implant in it.  It still feels soft and squishy, more natural as it is 80% mine, and at least makes me feel somewhat normal.  Again-we each have to decide what is best for us.  If I could have had just lumpectomies on both sides-I would have.

  • Nomatterwhat
    Nomatterwhat Member Posts: 587
    edited April 2015

    Cat, Dr. Jew is one of the best in the business.  Whatever you decide you are in good hands. 

  • catlady44
    catlady44 Member Posts: 159
    edited April 2015

    Yeah I'm gonna miss that sensation too, but I'd rather lose that, than deal with cancer again.

  • lola62400
    lola62400 Member Posts: 2
    edited April 2015

    I go along with "less verbage". I knew from the minute the mammogram tech said that the Dr. wanted another angle that they had found something and I was correct. At that exact moment I told myself if it was cancer, I'm doing a double mastectomy. Within 5 days I had a double, no rebuilding, and was home recuperating. For me it was a breeze. Suffering from several chronic illnesses has made me realize I need to cut my losses any way I can. No pun intended. I couldn't be more comfortable with my decision or the course of my life one year later. Good luck!


  • catlady44
    catlady44 Member Posts: 159
    edited April 2015

    I was on painkillers when I wrote that first post which explains why it got wordy. I should probably not be in chat rooms when I'm on those meds! LOL

    Last year I had a MRSA facial abcess that had to be drained from behind my upper lip, which was done while I was conscious. I was in the hospital for four days and the pain was so out of control that morphine didn't even touch it. Dilaudid finally did a little. My surgeon assured me that this wouldn't be remotely as painful as that, plus I'll be at a different, more competent facility.


  • Charlotte57
    Charlotte57 Member Posts: 35
    edited April 2015

    Catlady44: For me I had the same choice you did. My first surgeon was all for the lumpectomy and radiation. My first response was to remove both breasts not do reconstruction. I have a lot of health issues and don't want to be in worry mode for the rest of my life about getting cancer in my breasts again. I saw a second BS who suggested mx would be a better choise to avoid the radiation since I have heart and lung issues. After gathering all the data I have decided on dmx with immediate reconstruction. This will be performed on May 18. It's scarry, but I know for me if not gettting the dmx I would be a basket case of worry the rest of my life.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited April 2015

    Oh catlady when I used the less verbiage thing in my first post wasn't b/c of you. Oh no, I would never do such a thing. It was b/c of me. I sometimes (lot's) can go on too long. Besides my cancer story borders on the incredulous.

  • catlady44
    catlady44 Member Posts: 159
    edited April 2015

    Thanks for saying that. I'm probably being hypersensitive right now. My insides, and some of the outsides, are in upheaval right now. I feel so PMSy then you add steroid withdrawal - I'm a mess. Crying for either dumb reasons or no reason at all. I feel so stupid because I just finished chemo and should be really happy, but instead I'm really depressed. This whole process just sucks.

    I'd love to hear your story! It's helps me to hear other people's stories and how they coped with it, good or bad. Just knowing I'm not alone is so important to me. Also, I really do care about all of us, even if I feel self absorbed right now. I'm beating myself up way too much lately.

    As the song says, "I will survive" ;)


  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited April 2015

    Sassy, count me as another that would really love to hear your story.

    Catlady, it's o.k. Be as kind to yourself as you would be to your best friend - kind of a tough assignment but a worthy goal. And don't worry about what you write, wordy or otherwise. Most of us are in the same place ourselves at one time or another.

  • windingshores
    windingshores Member Posts: 704
    edited April 2015

    I wanted a double mastectomy but my surgeon talked me into doing one at a time, due to some other health issues. I had the first surgery 3/6 and have a mastectomy on the "good" breast scheduled for 5/14.

    One surgeon says there is a 2% risk of cancer in the other breast; another insists on MRI or sentinal node biopsy because once the breast is gone, there is no way to find the sentinal nodes. I would prefer an MRI to make sure the "good" breast is really healthy, especially since biopsy of the cancerous breast showed some things that did not show up on mammogram.

    Also, if I do hormonals for 3 weeks before surgery, how much will that impact pathology on that breast (and nodes)?



  • catlady44
    catlady44 Member Posts: 159
    edited April 2015

    Not sure about the hormonal blockers. They're waiting til after surgery and radiation to start mine. Might want to ask your doc? There are just SO many decisions we have to make. It can be really overwhelming.

    Thanks for your comment Hopeful! It's nice to know people who don't judge. I'm guessing that with all we go through having cancer, we've all been on the crazy train at one time or another.


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited April 2015

    My Story, I look back and I can't believe it's real.

     1996- twin sister had ER+ bc with a mx. When I heard ER+, I said we had to get to work and have those puppies out(oophs)--Total hyst and oophs. Wasn't the treatment at the time. But I had been reading. My sense of it was that the total story wasn't in yet. Approached a gyn, he went along with it. We kept hidden my twins story. He went out of town. Insurance asked for more info. Secretary sent it. Cat was out of the bag. Insurance denied surgery coverage-----I intervened and said "My doc has recommended that I have a total hyst and oophorectomy on Wednesday. If you don't approve it and I end up with estrogen + BC your responsible. It was approved the next day. 

    2008 I had considered a prophy BMX since 1996. Thought hard since 2005 and talked each year with PCP. After getting a new job, I decided to pursue a prophy. I made an appointment. Before the appt. I was on the home health job. I was sitting in my car. My flipping clipboard --flipped closed on my left nipple and the three inch ring binder fell on top of it. OUCH---Yikes.  This became important when I talked to the MO about a prophy. He said it was going to be hard to get approved. The nipple still hurt. He said GREAT we can use that. He wrote it up as a problem. Mammo was ordered. Mammo in August 2008--NED(still have the letter).

    September had a fall on the job off a 2 inch step. Right ankle turned> left ankle turne--I was airborne>>>>fell left>>>left side of head(very important to story)>>left face/jaw>>all cervicals crunched to the right>>left shoulder& maybe boob>>left hip>>went forward on wrists>>knees hit>> rolled on right shoulder>>landed on left hip. Got up and walked----When I made the incident report out. At the end after reviewing it I said "Elbows okay"........I never declared workers comp. Imagine.

    Dec 8th, had the Breast MRI, I was late in getting the exam b/c the August mammo was negative. Mo lied( from the june exam) and said he felt something behind the nipple and I had pain from the nipple injury(true). That got the insurance coverage. Two days later I got the call." Okay I've been putting it off Got it done" He says" There's something there' I said Dammit That's exactly why I came to you in the first place. Damn it. I never wanted to get this call.  Then I had to without a show of emotion go in an admit a patient to home health.

    Jan 20th---Mri of brain--b/c of headaches, --trumped up confusion---basically head wasn't right since fall in sept.

    Jan23rd----11:55am---woman calls "Dr. Levine want's you to know that you have a brain tumor". Me "Huh, What kind?--I don't know__-where--I don't know---what does this mean---i don't know. Me " Well I'm have a stereotactic breast bx at 1pm that we know is going to be positive and you are telling me without any verifiying information that I have a brain tumor" Poor gal, silence. My response was " Well when the shit hit's the fan"

    Bx--reviewed films with doc----pointed out landmarks asked a few questions-----said that tells me it's very aggressive-----his response was yes.

    stopped at bosses office told them---said we figured out how my Dh could drive me on my homecare calls. I had gotten him approved as an official volunteer for the organization months previously. BUT the boss said " We have to have clearance thatyou are safe to work with patients, I have to relieve from duty"

    In the space of < 4 hours, I was told I had a brain tumor, Breast cancer, and lost my career.

     

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited April 2015


    Continuing story-----------BS said see you in 3 months-----what---you can't get clearance from neuro in less time-----me--you be ready I'll get it---and I did jan 23rd dx >>on the table for BMX Feb 18th. Gotter done...............

    April 1st--ist adjuvant chemo

    April 7th--hospital ---see 2D6 thread----chemicals not metabolized right>>doc hung wrong fluids caused acute renal failure, nurses didn't do usual Intake & output which didn't identify urinary retention even though overflow s/s's were present.-----admission was totally fucked up.--need to be monitored for life for renal function and cytology

    Aprill 17th Dh dx'd with lymphoma-----thought okay, it truly has become a curable ca.............except he was in the 5% that wasn't The rest of 2009 were spent with my sx's and his chemo's

    Dh passed away on August 20th, 2010. LIFE sucked. Dh Had ten hospital admissions in 2010. Four planned, all had foul ups. Six for complications.

    2011--my brain tumor decided to grow

    2012-brain tumor came out in March. Two bladder stones in fall, Neuropathy after shingles vaccine, unusual weight gain late year. Hand eczema triggered by manicure. Sounds bizarre to note, but took until 2014 to declare healed.

    2013--goiter noted on yearly CT>>bx>>>f/u us

    2014 thyroidectomy>>>> thyroid cancer---dx, but pathologist admitted he missed the dx in 2013 and he missed it at removal.He says he sent it to Quest lab b/c of my concern----------- Couple more bladder stones. Bladder stones aren't nice in passing. Rai 131 triggered a vulva problem that's going to be life long.

    2015- abnormal urine for cytology-----------still working the problem and still working the thyroid stabilization.

    BUT I am ALIVE and REACHING towards normal. It has been hell. Didn't mention the foobs. Had foob pain until this year--6years of foob pain---bad PS

    So life sucked these last 6 years, but I'm here. I know not the rhyme or the reason. I know I've learned allot, I know I have met incredible people. I know that I've met assholes. I know so much more than I knew before. I do wish I could have done without that learning. But for those that I have met through here are far and away good people. Life is good

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Life didn't suck these last 6 years----not sure I can explain it. They're were absolutely awful moments. The moments were the words of diagnosis, and the moment that my dear Greg died. The rest was trouble to work through.

     

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited April 2015


    Catlady & Hopeful, Oh ladies I got it all out........ Thank you. I miss my Greg the most

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited April 2015
    I'm sure you do, Sheila. I think losing your best friend/husband has to be the worst of all. Thank you for taking time to share your story and fill in the gaps.
  • catlady44
    catlady44 Member Posts: 159
    edited May 2015

    Wow sas-schatzi. That IS an unbelievable story! When it rains, it pours! I'm so glad you're still fighting throughout this mess. Did you ever file a complaint about the docs/hospitals messing up your treatments? I had an ER doc mess me up twice (whole other mess and scenario) so I wrote a letter to the hospital. Last I heard, that doc was leaving the country! At least he won't mess up anybody else here.

    I'm glad you got all that off your chest (no pun intended ;P) Seriously though, I hope writing all that out helped with some of your stress. You certainly have a lot of sympathetic sisters here!


  • 2ndchance2012
    2ndchance2012 Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2015

    I went with a double macetomy for i didn't want to go through it ever again, as in my family we have a lot of breast cancer and about half had a second battle in the remaining breast.

  • windgirl
    windgirl Member Posts: 340
    edited May 2015

    catlady hi, I am also her2 positive stage 2, younger than most, and my tumor was 3.5 cm when diagnosed. It was too big for a lumpectomy then but chemo shrank it so I got a lumpectomy and radiation. I too have family history, three aunts with BC and my mom did prophylactic bmx years ago. I tested negative for the genes they have identified so far. I did not even think twice once lumpectomy was an option after chemo. If mastectomy was needed, I would have done just an mx. You cannot get back what you take out, and right now emotions may influence judgment. So, my humble opinion is mx now and if you feel the same way about it later, and are comfortable with how you feel with your mx breast then you can always do the second one later. I read somewhere that they can achieve symmetry with mx as well if the doctor is good. BC can recur locally even if you get bmx, and the bmx has no bearing on distance recurrence which is the real scary part of BC.

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited May 2015

    Had a BMX and no regrets. My college roommate has an anxiety attack every time she has to have a Mammo on the good side. I didn't want any extra pain or procedures. Once and done for me. Very happy with my choice. Also decided to go flat. Just took off my foobs for the night. Feels like a bathing suit top. DH didn't care if I was flat as I have sensation in my chest now. I talked to a lady this weekend who is mad at her doctor or. He only would do a uni and now she worries about the what if

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited May 2015


    Cat and Hopeful--Hugs---it helped, sorry I dropped out I took a break.

    Wind and Chloe---the worry is the worst.. when The BS asked if I wanted one or both. I said "Off with them, They are nothing , but time bombs!"

    Felt like the Queen from Alice in Wonderland. "Off with them". Only regret is--- I wish I'd had a better PS.

  • floaton
    floaton Member Posts: 181
    edited May 2015

    i just wanted to chime in and say that I had a unilateral mastectomy when I was diagnosed, so I would recover faster to get back to caring for my baby. My thought was that down the line if there was even a blip on the remaining side I'd have I it off then. Well, given the fact I developed lymphedema very quickly on my mastectomy side, I'm very glad I left the left side alone as I rely heavily on that side in daily life. That said, often times dressing is a challenge, but that's more le than lopsidedness :). Best wishes whatever you decide!

  • clf10313c
    clf10313c Member Posts: 1
    edited May 2015

    I was diagnosed Stage 3C - right breast only but also with lymph node involvement. Finished 6 rounds of neoadjuvant chemo (manageable but not fun) end of March. Scans showed good response to treatment but not complete resolution. Have dense breast tissue so decided to be aggressive and had double MX with lymph node removal and reconstruction started on April 20. Ended up being very good decision. Pathology on left showed microscopic cancer not detected on any previous scans. Four pathologists reviewed tissue and reached diagnosis of stage 1. Start radiation next week with oral chemo. And still doing Herceptin infusion through December. Will finish reconstruction after radiation. Bottom line, research, talk to as many people as you want and do what feels right and best for you.

    Hang in there. WE CAN DO THIS! Best to you

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited May 2015

    As soon as I heard lumpectomy was an option, I knew that would be my choice. Unlike many, I wanted as little intervention as possible, and to be back on my feet quickly. I can always choose a mastectomy down the line later. I don't mind the extra monitoring. But in my case the amount of dcis is large, and IDC is small, and my lymph nodes are clear. Good luck with your decision.

  • catlady44
    catlady44 Member Posts: 159
    edited May 2015

    My doctor explained the survival rates for double as opposed to single, but one thing I think doctors didn't understand iabout my questions were that surviving isn't my real concern right now. My concern is whether or not I'll have to do chemo again. I had a very treatable cancer and yes, I know bad things can happen and people die of this, but I'm not thinking that far ahead right now. I refuse to speculate too much into the future because have enough worries as it is! ;P

    I finally did decide on a double mastectomy with reconstruction via TE.

    Both the plastic and onc surgeon explained in detail what they were going to do and how much pain/discomfort is involved. The plastic surgeon especially went into detail about the complications that could come up esp if I have radiation right after the surgery. I'm a tough old lady and have a high pain tolerance so I'm not all that worried about that part of the process. I'm mostly freaked out at thought of going to sleep and waking up with an obvious part of me missing. That first look down is really scary to me. The psychological impact is my biggest fear.

  • loriekg
    loriekg Member Posts: 263
    edited May 2015

    Catlady...I so hear you about that first look! My BMX is this Friday. I have prepared myself as much as possible with the picture forum. Thank GOODNESS for the ladies there that have shared. Certainly no way to prepare yourself just by looking at the before and after pictures at the plastic surgeons office, right?

  • amygil81
    amygil81 Member Posts: 165
    edited May 2015

    Catlady, I chose a UMX. I am a D cup, so my missing breast is noticeable when I don't wear anything in my empty bra cup. I've made do with one breast and a foob for so long that it's just part of my life.

    I had a chest wall recurrence a few years ago, right at my mastectomy site. That moved me from stage 0 to stage III. They had to take out a chunk from my pectoral muscle. I call it my "upgrade surgery".

    My surgeon occasionally mentions doing a prophylactic mastectomy if I wanted. She only recommends it as the standard of care if the patient has lobular bc (I don't), but she'll do it for others if they insist.

    I've never really been tempted. Partly, to be blunt about it, is that they've already cut off enough of me for this damn disease (left leg for bone cancer as a teen, and now my left breast and part of my chest wall). If I had cancer on the other side, of course it would have to go, but not until then.

    The other part is the loss of sexual sensation from my nipple. That's what I miss most from losing my breast. I find it somewhat more difficult to get things started, and also somewhat more difficult to reach my orgasm. I'd be really sorry if I lost the other one as well. If recon would give me that sensation back, I’d have it in a shot, but of course, it doesn’t.

    Anyway, that's what works for me. I wish you the best in this tough decision, and in all of your bc journey.

     

  • catlady44
    catlady44 Member Posts: 159
    edited June 2015

    The loss of nipple sensation is also my biggest fear! Like cancer isn't bad enough, it has to mess up sex! I had my double mastectomy with reconstruction last Friday. I'm in a lot of pain, but it seems to be getting better each day. I was in recovery longer than normal due to pain control problems, but I don't think that's the norm AT ALL, so don't be worried about that. I have some good drugs now that help too. Everyone's body is unique of course.

    My first look at my new chest wasn't as upsetting as I expected. It just felt weird to see nothing there. These expanders look HUGE so no wonder I'm in pain. It makes me question whether or not I should have had reconstruction, but it's already started so I'll just go with it. One thing cancer has taught me is that I'm tough as hell!

    Loriekg - yes no amount of pics can really prepare you for what you're going to see. Personal testimony is what's helpful to me. So even though we had our mastectomies on the same day, my thoughts are this too will pass. Please message me or whatever if you have any questions about what I'm going through or anything that might be worrying you. It helps calm my fears to hear other people talk about their experiences. And please let me know how you're doing now! :)

    Amygil81 - Wow - you lost a leg on top of everything else?! I'm am so sorry! You've had some brutal experiences! When they remove the chest wall tissue, isn't that called a radical mastectomy? I had an aunt who had that like 35 yrs ago when that's all they offered. It sounds rough, but I'm guessing after all you've been through, you're a tough cookie as well. I have always had a smaller chest so it's easier to fake boobs until I get the implants.

    Thanks for your responses everybody!


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