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  • sillyplatypus
    sillyplatypus Member Posts: 4
    edited April 2015

    Hi Bekah,

    I've been lurking, and I hope it's ok that I'm jumping in. I saw your post asking for comments about weekly Taxol, and since I finished weekly Taxol/Herceptin last month, I thought maybe I could chime in. I'm not in exactly the same boat as you since I didn't do the AC first, but still...let's see...the good news is that I had no nausea or vomiting, and the other Taxol patients at my infusion center didn't, either. I also had no muscle or joint pain, but I usually got a pretty nasty headache two days out. Advil could handle it, though, so really, that's not so horrible. I only had one toenail that was affected at all even though I didn't ice anything. A couple of times I had mild tingling of the fingers and toes, and that's one of the things my oncologist and the nurses asked about all the time. For me, it mostly went away a couple of days after treatment. (One toe is still a bit numb, but it's not much of a bother.) Hair, though...that's the rough bit. I lost pretty much all of it after the third treatment. My oncologist said all his patients lost their hair on weekly Taxol. Brows and lashes were fine until now, darn it all. Through all 12 treatments, brows and lashes held on. Now, though, they're falling out. Argh. Near the end I had a couple of minor allergic reactions to the Taxol. The nurses said that was pretty common...I got a red rash all over my face, and I had to postpone a treatment. It didn't itch or anything...I just looked like I had a bad sunburn. They loaded me up with Benadryl and decadron (oh, joy) and had me use an OTC cream until the end of it. I rinsed with baking soda/salt three times/day and never got a mouth sore.

    With the Herceptin every three weeks, I've had no noticeable side effects.

    Hope this helps. :)

    Holly

  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited April 2015
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    This is Boots. She "helps" me sew and is a fabulous nap buddy :)

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    hello Boots! What beautiful eyes! That looks like a quilting mat...yes? I'm a quilter.

    So glad you have a special therapy kitty.

    Hugs

  • wpmoon
    wpmoon Member Posts: 270
    edited April 2015

    I'm on TCHP (taxotere, carboplatin, herceptin, and perjeta) once every 3 weeks for six rounds. Last Monday 4/13 was my halfway point, and I've mostly dealt with diarrhea, heartburn, headaches, and the funky mouth. This last week I've definitely noticed an immense spike in bone/joint pain. I ache and hurt all over and nothing is providing relief. I went to the chiropractor yesterday, and that provided temporary relief for my chronic back pain, but this is constant. A different kind of pain that I can only contribute to the cumulative chemo infusions.

    It's interesting to me how everyone's bodies react differently to these drugs. What one person is dealing with may not ever even occur with someone else. Bodies are weird like that. But I'm glad we can learn from each other and help spread information!

    The dark nail polish I think has something to do with preventing the light from damaging the nails and the chemo spreading there. A very nonscientific explanation, I know. I've been meaning to do it, but have been too lazy. So far, I haven't had any nail problems though.

    This is Maggie :)

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    Even though it's towards the end of treatment, I signed up for a Look Good Feel Better program mid May. I haven't lost any eyebrows or lashes yet, but I figure they can help teach me how to make fake ones. And who doesn't like free stuff? And I'm going to yoga tonight! Trying to remember that I enjoy working out, and that getting out of the house will be good for me. Hopefully have me feeling "normal".

  • BeatIt2015
    BeatIt2015 Member Posts: 45
    edited April 2015

    Love, love, love all the pet pics!!!

    My caretaker kitties Spooky and Tiger. :). They look a little perturbed since I woke them from their nap in the sunshine, but they are very sweet.

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  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    WP- Yay for yoga! Good for you!

    Yay for Maggie! She is a beauty! Is that tortoiseshell ???

    And it's never too late to collect $250 of free stuff and have an afternoon out with people who get it. So sorry about the pain. Unfortunately, I am right with you there today. Hoping tomorrow will be much better.

    BeatIt- Spooky and Tiger are your dynamic duo! So happy you have them. I can't imagine life without the unconditional love of a pet.

    I think today should be official chemo kitty day., so many great photos. And when I vizualize my friends, it's so much nicer to have that ball of fur in my mind's eye on your lap.

  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2015

    Bekah, my family doc tried to diagnose me with Reynaud's recently too. I always thought the color changes and cold intolerance were due to my Hashimoto's, but he thinks it's mild Reynaud's. He prescribed a blood pressure medicine, but I never took it, because I've never been a gratuitous medicine person. Ha! Cue cancer...

    I'm still not 100% convinced that he's right, but it's interesting to hear from someone that actually has it. It's not very common. I thought someone on here mentioned it a long time ago, but I couldn't remember who. My thumbnails have deep grooves near the base, but everything else is good so far. I use Vitamin E oil on them a lot. I may paint them and see if that helps with the lines

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited April 2015

    Yes, the opaque polish is to keep light from penetrating to the nail bed - not sure of the mechanism, but it is to avoid lifting.  This is a taxane side effect.  I also cut my nails as short as possible - both toes and fingers.

  • Angiel
    Angiel Member Posts: 223
    edited April 2015

    Katy I'm sending you a big hug...and now I'm telling you, you need to get some rest. My heart hurt for you reading your post of your day. You sound like you are thoroughly exhausted and your body is telling you it needs rest. I know I don't know you beyond this board but I get the sense you care so much about others that you put yourself second. I may not be as wise as you but tomorrow brings a new day and things always seem brighter in the morning. Put today to rest and do whatever it is - warm bath, hot tea, soothing music, reading, meditation, etc. - that will allow you to relax enough and shut down your brain and just find solace in sleep or peaceful rest. I'm worried about you and will pray that you get a good night's sleep tonight and that your body aches and pains will be less tomorrow and that your fever doesn't return. Take care of yourself!! You can't be the natural cheerleader you are to this group if you are incapacitated in the hospital! Jack is adorable by the way!

  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited April 2015

    Katy, I would never say I'm a quilter. That seems misleading given my skill level. I'm a sewer who sometimes makes quilts. I mostly do baby blankets with large blocks but have a few more detailed ones under my belt. I'm not precise enough for teeny pieces of fabric. It's something I'm working on getting better at.

    wpmoon I have another kitty (she still lives w my husband) who looks just like Maggie! I'm a bad cat mom - can't find a good pic of her.

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited April 2015

    My therapy kitty is 'Mr. Sprinkles'. Don't let the soft name fool ya though. He's de-clawed, neutered, and a BADASS hunter! Every night he brings me some treat - gopher, mouse, lizard, bird, repeat....I don't mind except the birds. Those he just leaves feathers everywhere...at least he eats his spoils and cleans up after himself (except feathers).

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited April 2015

    Raynaud's is on the rare side and mine is not severe but if I'm under stress AND exposed to cold....I could go hours with zero color or sensation in my fingertips or toes (only a few of them - never affects them all for me). Then, when it comes back it's red and hurts like a son of a gun!

    So, take the stress of chemo and throw ice on it...nope...I'll pass!

    The dark/opaque polish is to prevent the light from reaching the nail beds - apparently the light somehow 'activates' the damaging process.

    Bekah

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Angie- thank you for your kind words. I have been resting and do feel much better.

    Well, I didn't know why I needed the dark polish, but I did get some, so tomorrow I will trim my toes and nails and get busy protecting them from the light.

    Eileen, my mother taught herself to quilt the last few years of her life when she was living with me. She was always a sewer, and made lots of my clothes growing up. After she died, and then my brother died too, I found myself trying to fly under the radar in a small Oregon town. But funny enough, it had a very large quilt shop! The ladies there took me under their wings. I don't have the patience and skill to work with all those little bits and over the years have tried to work with larger blocks and more interesting fabrics to create my unique "look".

    I made first a Christmas quilt for each of my nieces using the same basic fabrics but different ways, in a class. I will attach a pic. And I apologize in advance for hogging up space but will include a whale quilt I made for a very dear friend who loves whales, and a bed quilt for myself with a piano key border. They are all very simple, but I am quite proud of them.

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  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    here is the whale quilt and a couple shots of the grand masterpiece, the queen bed quilt with piano key border

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  • wpmoon
    wpmoon Member Posts: 270
    edited April 2015

    Katy, those quilts are beautiful! I took up crocheting a few years ago, and have made a handful of baby blankets. It's so nice to give people gifts with a personal touch. And yes - Maggie is a tortoiseshell! When I got her they told me tortie's have their own attitudes, known as toritietude, and boy was that true. But i love her dearly. She's been a good buddy through all this crap. She slept by my side during the whole month of December when I was recovering from surgery, and she always curls up extra close when she knows I'm having a tough time. Gotta love animals and their senses!

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    WP- "Tortietude" LMAO

  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited April 2015

    Katy, do you do the top quilting? I'll send pics tomorrow. I have one quilt that I have pics of that I hand quilted. The others were tied.


  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    my machine has a wide enough neck so I have done all but the big queen and one that i hand tied onit. Look forward to seeing your pics!

    Hand quilting...... Very impressive

  • Angiel
    Angiel Member Posts: 223
    edited April 2015

    Wow Katy, that's pretty impressive! Beautiful quilts. Glad to hear you are feeling a little better.

    Time for me to get up and get ready for Taxol #3.....

    Happy Hump Day ladies!

  • SweetHope
    SweetHope Member Posts: 439
    edited April 2015

    Yesterday the news was reporting on genetic testing for $249. Just read this new post and wanted everyone here to see it:

    JohnSmith wrote:

    This information was posted in the "Clinical Trials, Research Studies, News" section, but since some never venture into that portion of the forum, it warranted a thread here.

    A California based start-up called "Color Genomics" (or simply "Color") is offering a $249 saliva test kit for breast and ovarian cancer.

    It analyzes these 19 genes: ATM, BARD1, BRCA1, BRCA2, BRIP1, CDH1, CHEK2, EPCAM, MLH1, MSH2, MSH6, NBN, PALB2, PMS2, PTEN, RAD51C, RAD51D, STK11, TP53.

    The test includes the CDH1 gene. Like the well known BRCA gene, CDH1 is a "tumor suppressor gene". Without this gene, a cell has a higher chance of mutating. CDH1 is responsible for encoding the E-cadherin protein. The hallmark of Lobular BC is the lack of E-cadherin.

    Color is not yet able to ship test kits internationally. Within the U.S. they can't ship to Florida, Maryland, New York, Pennsylvania, or Rhode Island, as each state has different regulatory requirements around genetic testing. This may change in the future.

    As a side note, my wife had the same exact genes tested last year, but spent over $2000 out of pocket, since insurance only covered a portion.

    Color Genomics website. (Either go to new articles for link or google it. It won't work on this copy.)

    Media articles:

    Startup Pledges To Cut Cost Of Breast Cancer Genetic Testing From $4000 To $249

    (Please pass this on. I've posted on Jan. and Feb. Chemo group and Lumpectomy Lounge. If you live in a state that is listed, have the kit sent to a friend who can forward it to you. I am doing that for my niece in Florida.)

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Holly: Thanks so much for your info. It was very helpful.

    I was wondering if there was something clinical, so to speak about the dark nail polish.

    Katy: Your quilts are absolutely beautiful!

    The cats are all lovely. I am more of a dog person but I love cats, too. We might have a shot at getting a dog someday but with my daughter's allergies cats are persona (or felia) non grata here ever.

  • ninjamary
    ninjamary Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2015

    Katy - hope you feel better and those are magnificent quilts. I love handmade quits.

    I have two cats (will post pictures at some point) and one dog. I decided my house smelled of animals this am (4:10 am to be exact) and I plan on doing a major clean this weekend to rid our house of the smell. I think chemo has intensified my smell glands. If I had the strength in me this morning I would have rolled up the carpet and let it bake in the sun all day. Instead I watched a re-run of Law & Order. Today I finally feel normal. Yea!

  • neverthought
    neverthought Member Posts: 90
    edited April 2015

    Jackbirdie - your posts inspire me and your quilts are beautiful. Thank you! Hope you can stay away from hospital.

    I am supposed to get 3rd TC this am and freaking out. Leg cramps getting worse every day, hobbling around and yesterday weird dizzy spell with my boss demanding to drive me home, but OK after a while at my desk. MO may lower taxotere but thinks I should still have. I was not in such great shape before BC with vertigo, leg cramps so not much reserves to start with. Then addition of all these meds that come with warning may cause dizziness. Almost ready to throw in the towel. Thank goodness for benzos.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Ninja: I am so happy you are feeling good today!

  • greenae
    greenae Member Posts: 540
    edited April 2015

    Hi All,

    Katy, Those quilts are magnificent. What a talent! I do counted cross stitch, but the tips of my fingers are sore and a little pruny, so the stitching is annoying my fingers. My own fault, because I never wear gloves, and have been washing hands so often. I at least remembered to wear them for a little gardening.

    I have researched and questioned the dark polish, and have not come up with a source I would quote. I just know polish has been suggested by MO, Onco RNs, and various sites. The whole idea of light hitting the nails causing the damage doesn't make sense because if your toes are in shoes, no light is hitting them. Regardless, I have purple on my toes and teal on my fingers...whatever it takes and whatever works...I will try! And the dark colors are fun, at 57, I am trying to be young...lol.

    Just wondering if everyone is taking Colace twice a day? I have had no probs with constipation, and thought I would suggest. the colace and a couple of dried prunes or apricots every day. They have been doing the trick for me. It only seems to be an issue the first week after an infusion. I only have 2 TC under my belt...but all of the tips I have received have helped immensely. Just can't get rid of the metal mouth and tongue soreness. Have the water bottle with the tsp of salt and tsp of baking soda always in the BR...and I am actually liking the taste of Biotene MW.

    Last infusion, I had bone/joint issues for a few nights, a couple of hours, also during the first week. Motrin worked, as did moving around. It's weird, if I am still, try to rest, watch TV, I get all fidgety and uncomfortable. So, I have been doing as much as I can, e.g. light cleaning, gardening, stationary bike, etc...and I feel so much better than the first infusion. There must be something to this whole exercise thing. The endorphins, the speeding of of metabolism, drinking more? I don't know if it gets the chemo drugs circulating and excreted more efficiently, or what? I just know I feel so lucky to feel better this time around. And I am so lucky to not have to work now, I don't know how you all do it? I work in an urban area with young children from all over the world, whose vaccination and disease status is not always known, so my MO wanted me home during chemo. I want to send strength and hugs to all of you who are working through this, have young children at home (My 4 are in their 20's).

    I wish all of you may have these SEs calm down and take a HUGE hike.

    I am so glad to see a lot of us have dogs and cats to help calm and comfort us when we're down. I love all the pics.

    I guess I am rambling today...no one is home...so I had time to catch up and think.

    Wishing everyone a sunny day,

    arlene

    Here is my Augie...saying HI!

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  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2015

    It's day one post-chemo #3 for me, and I can't believe how exhausted I already am. Usually, I don't start crapping out until day 3. I hear that the effects are cumulative, but I never expected the fatigue and fog to hit this morning. I also had a horrible backache last night and into the morning. Whitney, did your SE kick in early after #3?

    I'm going to pretend that I'm wrapped up in one of your beautiful quilts, Katy! I'll drag my pitiful self out of bed in a few and see if I can eat some breakfast for energy. (I really want a coffee, but I'm still trying to pound fluid to flush this garbage out of me!) I also have two doses of dex to take today, so maybe that will bring my superhuman steroid strength back. Ha!

    Much love to all. Good luck to anyone sitting in the chair today. Hoping the fevers, headaches, and other sandwiches ease up soon for everyone!

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Arlene: I am glad you are having an easier time this time. I believe exercise helps me both physically AND mentally.

    I, unfortunately, don't have an critters but hope to after this cancer nightmare is finished.

  • Leighrh
    Leighrh Member Posts: 317
    edited April 2015


    Katy.. WOW! I love those quilts. I have one that Hubs grandmother made for our wedding and I love and cherish it!  I wish I had the patience to have a hobby like that.  I am much to go, go, to sit for too long.... well usually... not so much right now.  Love seeing everyone's pets. Don't have one because I have a 10  and 8 yr old boys.. those are enough  lol  I can hardly take care of them!  They keep asking for a dog so one day we will get one.

    Glad to see everyone is feeling pretty good these last cpl days. Or at least getting there.  I am finally starting to see a little improvement but my attitude is still shit.  That first AC really through me for a loop and made me think this wasn't gonna be what I thought.... It def is what I thought.  Last week I was able to work out for 4 days before my tx... including 530am the morning of.... this week I can't walk up the stairs without getting out of breath. My Crossfit was suppose to be my rock through all this and I can't get there.  Its frustrating.  Hopefully I can get there next week.  I am trying to walk a little this week but I'm hardly able to work a full day much less walk when I get home. Well there is my daily dose of whine....  wish I felt good enough to have an actual dose of WINE....lol!

    Hope everyone has a SE easy day!

  • ninjamary
    ninjamary Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2015

    Trvler - thanks! It feels good to feel normal.

    Leigh - I'm impressed you have still managed to do CF through this. The idea of using a rower or attempting a pull-up makes me tired. I don't even think I could do a push up now. Forget box jumps. I'd be back on that little box (and probably trip over it)

  • TerryMarie
    TerryMarie Member Posts: 77
    edited April 2015

    My tastebuds are driving me crazy, I settle in to enjoy a fave meal of mine and its blah. Boo hoo. 9 more days til im back in the chair and I;m dreading it, the good thing is , that means only one more after that! I see pet pics and I have to post the love of my life !

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