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  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    I'm home!

    It's a long story and not quite resolved but in the end, due to the ER being overloaded with very sick coughing people, and no place to isolate me, (they had a room they wanted to put me in but it was occupied) plus my fever coming down a bit more, it led the good people, after hours of waiting, to send me home to monitor my temp until tomorrow morning unless is spikes back up again tonight.

    It had dropped during the long time I was waiting after being initially triaged. Then I got a horrible attackof diarrhea and fatigue, and we finally agreed together that the ER wasn't the best place for me at that moment.

    Seems like a colossal waste of time, but I think if they felt something was really out of order,they wouldn't have let me go. I do feel better, but very tired and glad to be sleeping in my own bed tonight.

    Thanks everyone for the support. It was quite a scare.


  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    glad you are home Katy! I hope you sleep well and have no fevers!

  • greenae
    greenae Member Posts: 540
    edited April 2015

    great news... Get some much-needed sleep

  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2015

    Hooray, Katy!!! Between the fevers and the big D, I bet you are exhausted. Hoping for good rest and no more temp spikes!

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Katy: So glad you are better. I was thinking the last place you want to be is the ER with all those germs. Usually, they are trying to boot people out too early because it is riskier to be there.

    I WISH I were halfway. Not quite there yet.


  • TerryMarie
    TerryMarie Member Posts: 77
    edited April 2015

    Eleven days until my 5th treatment and I'm dreading it, this last one left me feeling like I'd been hit by a car and had every bone broken. That extreme feeling of pain last a few days and then settled into a dull roar. Right now I have the runs , a horrible feeling mouth , difficulty swallowing and random aches but it's better than the intense pain and I can function fairly normally. First 3 treatments were a breeze in comparison (now Docetaxel and Herceptin). Oh and lets not forget the rash Im getting on my nether regions.

    I thank my lucky stars that I retired early at 55 and now at 56 I can deal with this without worrying about getting up to go to work like I know some of you do and Im in awe as to how you cope.

    Funny reading up there about friends being weird now that you have cancer. I haven't experienced this that much , in fact I've actually found this 'event' has brought people closer to me and makes me want to be a better person to others. Emotional feelings of gratitude i guess. Having said that, I will also say that I'm very private about my situtation and not a lot of people know. I don't want to talk about it all the time because I think it helps me to just carry on with living and not make it the focus of all my conversations. It freaks me out when people show a lot of concern and worry because I'm trying to be positive and their reactions make me feel like 'dead man walking'. I know better but its how i feel.

  • BeatIt2015
    BeatIt2015 Member Posts: 45
    edited April 2015


    Hi, happy Monday!

    I know many in our group suffered thru the weekend so wishing lots of good health and few SEs to everyone as we start this new week. My SEs are very minimal so far but I have no appetite so I thought maybe we could share ideas for foods that are tasting good and giving us comfort.

    I have been doing great drinking water until this weekend, and now it is just not appealing. But a couple of things helped with fluid intake:

    Watermelon--yum, my new favorite. So refreshing.

    Orange juice smoothie with lots of ice and a little cream and finely chopped apples and pineapple.

    My other new favorite: green beans.

    And I'm now craving spaghetti and meat sauce.

    Still consuming lots of saltines.

    I'd love to hear what's working for you.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Terrymarie: "Funny reading up there about friends being weird now that you have cancer. I haven't experienced this that much , in fact I've actually found this 'event' has brought people closer to me and makes me want to be a better person to others. Emotional feelings of gratitude i guess. Having said that, I will also say that I'm very private about my situtation and not a lot of people know. I don't want to talk about it all the time because I think it helps me to just carry on with living and not make it the focus of all my conversations. It freaks me out when people show a lot of concern and worry because I'm trying to be positive and their reactions make me feel like 'dead man walking'. I know better but its how i feel"

    This is very similar to my feelings.

    My daughter told me the other night that a neighborhood boy said to her 'I am sorry to hear about your mom' and I think she was uncomfortable with it. I thought it was very sweet. I asked her why she was uncomfortable and she said because no one was supposed to know. I told her it's ok that people know NOW but in the beginning I didn't want to tell everyone until I knew the treatment plan. Poor little thing. She was so afraid that she had done something wrong. She is very sensitive.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Beatl: My biggest issue is that food just doesn't taste like anything but I am still managing to eat. Pasta is good. Chicken is mostly yuck unless it's in something else. We made chicken enchiladas last night. I am just trying to make sure I get protein.

  • slothabouttown
    slothabouttown Member Posts: 449
    edited April 2015

    Oh I can talk about food, that's for sure! Seems I'm craving protein, like big lumberjack-sized breakfasts. I've been a vegetarian for a lot of years and so when I started craving meat with this chemo I decided I should probably pay attention, so I've been eating whatever sounds good. Last night I watched a youtube video of Gordon Ramsey cooking the perfect steak and within ten minutes I was headed to the Safeway for a cut of filet. It was delicious. And chef Ramsey really does have an excellent and easy way of cooking it.

    Sweet things usually taste pretty normal but I've been trying to keep it healthy, lots of smoothies in the morning then at night instead of ice cream ill make a bowl of Greek yogurt with raw honey and bananas or blueberries. The sweet and start together wakes up some otherwise sluggish tastebuds I think. Applesauce tastes good too.

    Saltines are yum so I started buying the little oyster crackers so they'd seem more like a treat, then I had to shake up some of that horrible oyster cracker snack mix from Pinterest. So much sodium but I could taste it!

    Another weird craving I've had is beets. I think they have a lot of iron or minerals in them so again I wonder if that's something my blood is needing to repair itself. I put lots of beets and kale through the juicer hoping it gives me a little credit for later in the day when I start craving the crap-ola food.

  • BBwithBC45
    BBwithBC45 Member Posts: 727
    edited April 2015

    Oh, the food! I've always had a sweet tooth and now I cannot even look at sweets without getting even more nauseated. The closest thing to sweet I can eat is apple sauce, the kind with no sugar added. I also always hated apples!

    I want to eat salty starches all the time. Pasta with olive oil and cheese, potato dumplings with butter and bread crumbs, toast with prosciutto, massive amounts of Cheetos. Cottage cheese tastes good, and I have been drinking plain kefir. My Mom has been making me soups - beet soup, broccoli, cauliflower, tomato - these all taste good and help with my fluid intake. I also enjoy boiled broccoli and roasted asparagus. And that's about it.

    I have never drank a lot of water and I am having a difficult time to drink now as much as I'm supposed to. I've tried to put some lemon juice into it, or a splash of cranberry juice, but it is getting old already. And I think that lemon juice is giving me heartburn.

  • TerryMarie
    TerryMarie Member Posts: 77
    edited April 2015

    I crave lots of different foods but they don't taste how i remember them tasting and I end up sampling more than eating , swallowing is an issue for me as is this feeling in my mouth of cotton or socks, and now my tongue is sore. Popsicles are good, ice cream, smoothies etc all tasty. Meat hasnt been easy because of the texture, I can't seem to chew it up enough even if its been ground up. Soft potatoes and carrots and similar things work for me. Forget about toast, it's too 'sharp' on my mouth, hurts my tongue and gums. I know I've lost weight , my eating has been halved at least. I'm just making sure I eat protein , eggs and cheese etc and veggies , I want to eat as well as I can.

  • BeatIt2015
    BeatIt2015 Member Posts: 45
    edited April 2015


    I sure miss my morning cup of coffee. Probably better not to have it but I sure could use the morning jolt, but it tastes terrible to me now. Maybe my body telling me what's best.

    Agree nothing really tastes the same. And I feel like a wasteful sampler.

    I thought vanilla pudding sounded good. It wasn't.

    Like others on here have suggested, a few bites every couple of hours seems to work best.

  • Carrie37
    Carrie37 Member Posts: 331
    edited April 2015

    I miss coffee too! It's so sad to me that food just doesn't taste the same. I agree that lots of food sounds great but then doesn't taste as I remember it tasting. Bummer. I still crave birthday cake, chips and salsa, fruit salad, pasta salad, feta cheese, Cheetos and smoothies. Just one bite at a time.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    I think part of the reason food doesn't taste the same is the nasal congestion.

    Beet soup sounds good. Recipe?

  • so-she-did
    so-she-did Member Posts: 202
    edited April 2015

    My favorite right now is roasted veggies, especially broccoli and asparagus. The split pea soup with a hearty amount of ham that my sister made and froze for me has really been hitting the spot, too. Caesar salad mix, enchiladas (can't taste the cheese but everything else is good), and anything else with a strong spice mix. The only sweet that tastes good is Breyers salted caramel ice cream and otter pops. I've been making a juice I really like - 2 smallish fuji or gala type apples, 1 orange, 10 or so carrots, and about 4-5 handfuls of spinach. Supposed to help with immunity and it tastes good. I also like drinking root beer, V-8 juice, gatorade (I tolerate it for the most part when I know I am dehydrated but it doesn't taste normal), and sprite mixed with cranberry juice when my bladder starts to feel irritated from chemo drugs.


  • BBwithBC45
    BBwithBC45 Member Posts: 727
    edited April 2015

    Trveler, I asked my Mom for the beet soup recipe (we call it red borscht). Problem is, she never gives me exact measures, so I'll just tell you what she told me.

    First she cooks vegetable stock - carrots, celery root, parsnip, and garlic. She cooks it for about 20-30 minutes. While this is cooking, she peels and slices the beets and adds them to the vegetable stock when it is ready. At the same time, she adds 3 allspice grain, 5 whole black peppercorns, one bay leaf, salt to taste. She also adds lemon juice, because borscht is supposed to taste a little acidic, sour. Instead of lemon juice, you can use balsamic vinegar. For the acidity the best however would be a little white borscht, aka zurek (sour rye soup), but you'd have to look for it in a Polish store.

    She continues to boil it for about 10 minutes and then drains the veggies, and that's it.


  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Trvler - your sweet daughter.....my eyes welled up.

    TerryMarie- so sorry you are still feeling crap, though it does sound marginally better with the whole body bone pain.

    The food...on infusions 1 and 2, I had the horrible burnt mouth and mouth sores. Swollen throat glands, sore throat, runny nose. I started with the L-Lysine and baking soda swish and have never stopped. I love a very dark roast coffee in the morning and temporarily switched to a medium, and I can now say very ECSTATICALLY, I am enjoying my coffee again.

    I have always been very bad with water drinking too. And vegetable eating. And I know I'm not getting enough protein which every doctor and nurse has bent my ear about.

    So I too have jumped on the juicing band wagon. I realize the horse is out of the barn, but I've switched to organic too. I feel silly, but I just can't knowingly do now what isn't the best possible thing for my body.

    I can sneak carrots, kale, beets, celery, even fresh broccoli into my juice if there is enough apple, orange, pear, pineapple, mango, and the like. I make a big pitcher in the morning to last all day. And my new secret weapon is fresh ginger (I cut off the hard outside) and it adds an appealing and interesting taste and also helps with nausea. Admittedly, I have not had the nausea problems others have had, but it helps when I'm feeling it coming on. I am adding whey protein (no soy protein if one is ER+- not to mention GMO) to my midday juice and it's probably the healthiest meal I've ever had.

    So I suppose you can tell I'm feeling ok again, all trace of fever has gone and I'm looking forward to a nice day, but I'll try not to overdo it. Easier said than done when one suddenly feels this physical reprieve!

    I am sending gentle hugs to all who aren't having the best days, whether it be SEs or the ubiquitous depression and insecurity that accompanies this malady. Love you all and thanks for being so supportive over the weekend from hell.

    Katy

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    BB! Please thank your mom for that priceless recipe!

    I can do that! Does she blend it to make it smooth when done cooking or serve it chunky?

  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2015

    I wish I craved veggies! The thought of them makes me cringe. The only way I've been able to get a good dose of veggies is to drink them with a fruit juice. I'm picking up a lot of organic fruit for fruit salad this week. The soft berries are sweet, so I can still somewhat taste them, and the fiber helps the GI storm that Perjeta gives me.

    I've been craving tons of dairy. I'm not sure why. Maybe it's my body's way of trying to stop the big D

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    I am thinking cheesecake and crime brûlée for the dairy cravers, and there is some protein.....or am I being just too bad.....???

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    How about chocolate pudding for dairy and sweet tooth?

    Thanks for the recipe, BB. No worries about amounts. I can always look up borsch recipes to figure it out.

    I have a great recipe for green salsa if anyone wants it. Not difficult at all.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    I make Panna Cotta with heavy whipping cream and gelatin in cupcake holders. Super easy and a total protein bomb. Not to mention adding some berries and a drizzle of chocolate! There are a bunch of easy recipes on the internet - that's where I find my recipe every time I make it. Yum!

  • BBwithBC45
    BBwithBC45 Member Posts: 727
    edited April 2015

    Katy, my Mom drains the veggies, so it is just the liquid that remains. I can eat it out of the plate with the spoon, or drink it out of a cup.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Yum. Panna cotta.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    I love Panna cotta, but hey, I'm Sicilian, right? Panna cotta con fragola (strawberries). Ok, now I want dessert!

  • greenae
    greenae Member Posts: 540
    edited April 2015

    Yikes! I am gaining weight reading these posts! My mouth tastes yucky, but I am such an eater! Thank you for all the ideas

  • molly1976
    molly1976 Member Posts: 403
    edited April 2015

    Did all of your MOs tell you not to eat soy? Mine says it is totally fine, that the plant estrogens in soy are so weak compared to what my own body is making that it's not significant. Still, I used to eat a ton of tofu and I haven't been able to go there since diagnosis.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited April 2015

    No issues with soy, but they did say to reduce if I ate a lot of things with it. They did say no lettuce, strawberries, blueberries, or raspberries. Only fruits and veggies that can be thoroughly cleaned before eating. Must be peeled. And no over easy or sunny side up eggs until I finished chemo. But all back to normal after chemo. Good luck.

  • BBwithBC45
    BBwithBC45 Member Posts: 727
    edited April 2015

    They told me the same about veggies and fruits - nothing raw, unless it can be peeled, and it has to be thoroughly washed. So I'm staying away from salads. Also, meet has to be well done.

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