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  • greenae
    greenae Member Posts: 540
    edited April 2015

    Katy- I just love how you make me smile and LOL. Augie is a shelter mutt...and I have zillions of pics of him...you asked for it...wait til tomorrow ;) He is a Therapy Dog drop-out. I tried to get him certified, but he has a few "issues." When things roll by, he LUNGES. I am talking bikes, skate-boards, scooters, big trucks...could you imagine a chemo IV pole---yikes! He is so loveable, but startles/lunges with large vehicles and wheeled objects. But he is OK with city buses...I worked hard to train that...maybe now that I am home, I can work on the other vehicles. And he is So protective of me, that No one could help me after my MX. That was kind of a nightmare. Had to throw a piece of chicken in another room, have him run in, and shut the door behind him. He then proceeded to scratch the hell out of my 90 year old doors. Ugh and Lol, all-in-one! He loves me too much, but the feeling is mutual.

    E, I am so sorry you don't have your dog...I am not allowed to go on Petfinder, because I will end up with another, but maybe you could save another dog?

    Diane, that pic is so happy and sad at the same time. My Dad is also gone, but never forgotten, and I lost my daughter when she was 11...I am staring at her pic right now...sheesh, life is so tough sometimes.

    Theresa, I hope that sting stays small, your wbc's should be back up if your due for your next infusion? You'll be back on that bike as soon as it's fixed, I am sure.

    Meme...aren't friends the best? My best friend came up from Charlotte to help right after my MX, too bad my dog wouldn't let her! But we had some fun, and I so appreciate her. Best friends since 1971!

    Sue-don't worry about taking the Ativan...we all need it at times, and as Katy said, we have to be rested and healthy to fight this fight!

    I hope everyone gets a good night's sleep. I can never fall asleep at a reasonable hour...even with the Ativan

    Arlene

  • slothabouttown
    slothabouttown Member Posts: 449
    edited April 2015

    Arlene, I have a border collie who is very protective. We have a quiet life that's pretty routine so when I had surgery in January and then a second surgery a week later I had to send her off to her dog sitter because she couldn't handle the helpers and visitors coming by.

    She was back with me when my sister came out for a week and she herded my sister around like a sheep. So back to the sitters! It was hard to be without her but the stress was just to much for her. Now that we're back to normal she's back to being a perfect dog most days! My real hero through surgery and recuperation was my 19 # cat, William Wallace. He was perfectly content to snuggle and watch movies for three weeks, and he loved all the visitors!

    Also you can count me in for the lake trip celebration- can't wait!

  • so-she-did
    so-she-did Member Posts: 202
    edited April 2015

    Sue - Hang in there my friend. For me, and from what it sounds like, for most of us, the waiting is the hardest part of all of this. My lowest point in all of this came when I received a phone call the day before I was to have my appointment with my MO to discuss my oncotype results. It had been a long 10 day wait and I was ready to get the news, whatever it happened to be, and move on to the next step. Up to this point I had been dealing with delay after delay. If the path results were supposed to take 2 days, it took 4. If I was supposed to have an appointment on a Tuesday, it got pushed back to the next week. That was the way things had been rolling. Anyway, the nurse from the MOs office called and said that my insurance still hadn't approved the test and they hadn't even started it yet. Uh, excuse me?! You know that ugly kind of crying where the snot runs down your face? Well, add to that confused and pissed off and you've got a picture of me about 10 minutes before my students were due back in from lunch. That was the first day I taught while on valium! That day was a shit sandwich served with a side of shit, F charm on the bracelet kind of day. It was the hardest part of all of this - the waiting. The chemo, the surgery, the SEs, all pale in comparison to all those days of waiting. Once you get past the waiting, it seems like everything else is doable and it is a matter of taking each step at a time. No matter how rotten that step is, at least you can see where you are putting your foot. I don't know if this helps you at all (maybe it was more for me to vent since I am STILL pissed the hell off about it - ha!) but I want you to know that for me, things got so much more manageable once I had a plan in place. Take everyone's advise and take some good meds to get through this part. You know, I've got to find a charm to represent that day to add to the bracelet that will sit at the bottom of the lake.

    Diane - open a can of whoop ass on that insurance company of yours!

  • greenae
    greenae Member Posts: 540
    edited April 2015

    Yes, Sloth...It was stressful with Augie. And I am already worried about when I have recon sx after chemo. This crazy mutt ( looks Aussie/shepherd/collie-ish) is depressed when I am not home, and follows me everywhere when I am. He is definitely resource guarding me. He has had a lot of training... I can only wonder what his prior owners did to him? He was 9-12 months old when he picked me at the shelter. I have worked long and hard with him...this is one characteristic that became so much worse after my MX. I think the bloody drain really threw him. And I don't have anywhere to send him, so I am going to work on people getting close to me these next few months. Thank goodness I am in pretty good shape, and didn't need a lot of help. I just Love the Doggies.

    I recently lost my 17 yo calico...but she was Not the friendliest cat. My favorite was a Siamese kitten I found in the bushes in Brooklyn in the middle of the night. He sounded like a baby crying. I worked as a paramedic on the night shift back then, and I took him home with me. I had that great cat from 1983 til 1999. Willie thought he was a dog...and we were besties. :)

    gonna try to fall asleep---HA!

    arlene

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    woke up at midnight after 3 good hours. Immediately thought of what Trvler said- this resource/counseling/unconditional love train is open 24/7! So I thought I'd check in.

    Arlene and Slothabout- shelter/rescue dogs are so wonderful. I have been tempted to get another too, because there are so many needy ones. Jack was found by my bestie running in the streets of LA, weaving in between cars, with no ID. Jack was very stressed out during my long and hellish recovery. He knew he couldn't get very near to me so he kept a safe distance but stared deeply into my eyes an whined. Constantly.

    I finally reached out to the Furry Friends group (I was a member but he had not yet been certified). From that day on, a steady stream of visitors came and took Jack out for walks, play dates with their dogs, etc., an opportunity to direct his stress into physical activity. It did him a world of good and I will always be grateful to these generous people.

    Arlene -90 yr old doors- sounds beautiful! And can't wait for more pics of Augie. And very quietly acknowledging the tragic loss of your daughter. Words could never even begin to cover that. My heart aches for you.

    Slothabout- your name has been added to the list- will be so great to meet everyone!

    Amy- you get the prize for the most effed up waiting! I agree that once a plan is in place and you can see your feet taking the steps, things improve greatly. Since the bracelet already has an F, you could add a W for "eff waiting". Not terribly creative, I'll keep thinking and looking for suggestions.

    Don't forget everyone, pm your snail mail and email addresses to me so we can begin to plot the travel plans of the F bracelet. Right now it looks like Diane will have it a couple of weeks, then Meme (Maryellen). Maybe after that we'll get it to Shaz and Bekah- I think they could use a littler fairy dust. A fairy would be cute

  • ninjamary
    ninjamary Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2015

    Maryellen, your MO sounds like my MO's sister. Though I have never seen mine in the infusion room. Which is just fine with me. I love the picture of you and your best friend too.

    Sharon - I have a skull scarf too. I feel like a bad ass in it. Wait, I am a badass! lol.


  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Go to bed Katy!!! 

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    That's a beautiful and emotional photo Diane. It reminds me so much of my dad who also died of lung cancer nearly 6 years ago. He was 61 and still working. Miss him so much, but I know hhe's helping me through this. 

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Arlene, words fail me! I can't imagine how horrific it would be to lose a child. I'm just so saddened to hear that. I hope you feel her strength helping you through this horrid disease. 


  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Maryellen I love that photo. I hope you're feeling OK. 

    I love the skull scarf. I found it in an op shop along with my ever growing collection. I'll donate the skull scarf to my daughter when this is finished. 

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Can't wait to go home. I remember seeing the sisterhood movie in the collection of DVDs that my daughter left behind when she moved out. At least I think it was a DVD I hope its not a vhs.

    Sorry about the many posts. I'm trying to catch up. 

    Love the fur pet family photos! 

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    image

    This is me and my daughter sStevie on her 21st birthday. I just love this woman to bits. 

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Sharon: You look so pretty in that chemo photo.

    Italy: I am sorry about the bee sting. I hope it didn't cause any issues.

    Sue: Hang in there. I find better results with Xanan than ativan. I wake up at 4 am with ativan and half a xanax usually lets me sleep through the night. Everyone so often, I go cold turkey just to make sure I don't have any addiction issues.

    Katy; I am so glad all is well. I WORRY about you when you go an entire day without posting. :)

    Arlene: I can't imagine losing a child. My heart is with you.

    Diane: Thank you for sharing your picture with your father. I also lost my father to cancer. He was 57. It was in 1993. What breaks my heart the most is that he never got to meet my husband or kids.

    The scalp thing is killing me. I have a very sensitive scalp anyway. Never can wear headbands or hats because they bug me. The wig is f-ing killing me. Itchy. The hat and scarf hurt. Hoping and praying this DOES end. I wonder if it happens with taxol? Anyone know?

    I heard from a friend from long ago when I lived in Los Angeles and that was a nice lift. She didn't know I had cancer. Also reached out to a FB friend and told her and she called me. I probably hadn't talked to her in 10 years but it was like we never lost touch and it was wonderful. We had met in high school.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Scratching my itchy scalp. They charged me $230 for my first chemo and $19k for my second.

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Hmm trvler, that's baffelling 

  • molly1976
    molly1976 Member Posts: 403
    edited April 2015

    Trvler, I'm on Taxol and my scalp hurt for a few days when my hair was really falling out in earnest but it's OK now.

    My chemo varies between $3000 and $29,000 (!!) a week, based on how much of the drugs they're giving me. Herceptin is what sends it so high, I think. I have a friend whose girlfriend was just diagnosed with cervical cancer and she does not have insurance. I can't even imagine. My husband and I live conservatively and have always been savers but 2 months of cancer treatment would have ruined us financially if we had to pay out of pocket.

  • ninjamary
    ninjamary Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2015

    trvler - my scalp does not itch anymore. It took a good two weeks to soften my nubs or maybe they are falling out. Who knows.

    I haven't received one chemotherapy bill yet. I figure my insurance company would pay about $9-19K per treatment. I've hit my deductible and out-of-pocket max. That wasn't hard to reach with the medical bills. So far my insurance company has paid over $40k for DX MRI's and surgeries. I can't imagine not having insurance. I consider myself very lucky.

  • Lovemylab
    Lovemylab Member Posts: 80
    edited April 2015

    hi everyone

    Just checking in as I had # 2 AC yesterday. Saw the NP prior and told her I had bad headaches after first one. She thought it was from zofran so she stopped it and gave me IV aloxi instead. It went so much better. No nausea or headache so far. NP was so awesome I would like to see her every time but she alternates w MO. She tweeked my other meds and gave me lots of good advise!

    Hopes this helps if anyone else got headaches. I can get thru two more of these with decrease in side effects.

  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited April 2015

    Holy crap, ladies. Dealing with chemo bills on top of everything else must be THE WORST. I'm with an HMO (Kaiser P) and don't even have a chemo co-pay. I had a $500 co-pay for the mx haven't seen a bill since. Regarding the PS not being covered - sorry I can't remember who that was - from what I understand Obama mandated that reconstruction cannot be not considered a cosmetic procedure. and has to be covered. That said I don't know how much coverage covered means.

    Regarding my pup - I'm actually ok with having partial custody. Love her dearly but never wanted a dog - my husband (Alan) won her at a fundraising auction and suddenly there was a dog in my lap. Alan & I hang out a lot and I get an adequate dose of puppy lovin'. I'm a cat person. The kitty that I took with me when we separated is terrified of the dog. Since we are in our own place she has turned into a totally different cat. I guess she needed to be an only pet.

    ok enough stalling. It's spa day! Off I go.

    :)


  • SueH58
    SueH58 Member Posts: 632
    edited April 2015

    Amy - I can't even imagine the outburst you must have felt at that moment. SO CLOSE and then oh, it's not even ordered yet!!!

    May I ask what your onco score was?

    I have an idea for the bracelet - a sandwich!

  • BeatIt2015
    BeatIt2015 Member Posts: 45
    edited April 2015

    Hi-

    Insurance-Eheinrich is right. Reconstruction coverage is mandated by federal law after BC surgery. Hope this info helps you in your fight with Ins. Co.. I've been VERY lucky with Ins so far, but I've set aside Mondays as they day I deal with the medical bills and insurance, "FunDay Monday" I call it. I did get 2 non-payments reversed last week, so that was good, but it took several calls.

    WAITING- I so agree with others: It is the worst!!!!!!!!!!!! However, in hindsight, the time allowed me time to come out of shock from whatever crappy news I had just gotten and mentally prepare for the next bit of news. I am now grateful for the time BUT while I was waiting I was a wreck. So just be a wreck and let us help :) I felt so much better once my MO and I agreed on treatment and a date was set (in fact we took a little pre-chemo vacation in the week between Decision and Chemo #1--I highly recommend it if you can get away for a few days and do something fun---it really helped me take my mind off the upcoming treatments).

    Hope and Hugs to All!!

    Carol


  • SueH58
    SueH58 Member Posts: 632
    edited April 2015

    Diane - I agree with e - it's a federal mandate that plastic surgery must be paid by insurance companies if associated with a disfiguring surgery.

    Katy - you are so sweet and caring. Thank you for your supportive words - to all of us. I am sleeping fine and, trust me, eating fine as well :-)

    Re; scalp care. someone mentioned using Nioxin shampoo. I have used Nioxin for years. It's great for thinning hair because it cleans the pores so well. Clogged hair folicles is what causes hair loss/baldness. So applying oil at night and then cleansing with Nioxin is a great idea.


  • Meme117
    Meme117 Member Posts: 194
    edited April 2015

    Had my shot today and feel pretty good though do feel a bit funny with the stomach, continuing the nausea pills every 4 hours. And lots of water and have added ginger tea - yum. Used the coconut oil last night on my head and added more with lavender oil before bed - wonderful, the sensitive calmed a lot. Well worth the $22.

    I now receive breast cancer agency updates on my Facebook page, liked one agency and now there are many more to like. Anyhow found this one that will send a beauty basket to you - I signed up so well see but thought you pretty ladies may want some freebies

    http://www.thebreastcancercharities.org/feelingbea...

    Also received two more cards from my chemo angels, highly recommend this group. And received a beautiful headscarf from www.goodwishesscarves.org. So nice to get mail. image

  • greenae
    greenae Member Posts: 540
    edited April 2015

    Katy, Shaz, Trvler, and all,

    Thank you for your kind words about my Jessie. That was, and always will be the toughest tragedy in my life. She is still with me everyday. She passed on Jan 2, 2002. I had the recall mammo and US that picked up my mass on Jan 2, 2015.

    She will Always be with me.

    love, arlene

    This is one of my favorite pics of Jessie and my son, Patrick. (He's 28, now)

    image

  • greenae
    greenae Member Posts: 540
    edited April 2015

    Katy...Augie says Relax...no decadron til tomorrow!

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  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    Ugh, unfortunately I started the Decadron today for my chemo no. 3 infusion tomorrow. And the bee sting I got is on the inside of my right forearm and hurts! Thank goodness it wasn't on my lumpectomy side on my left arm. That would have been more scary. I guess one side effect of the Decadron is that maybe it will reduce the inflammation from the sting. I hope it doesn't do anything to delay my chemo tomorrow.

    Awesome pic of your dog! Aren't they the biggest hams?

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Arlene- What a beautiful picture. The timing and dates is spooky. 13 years in between exactly. I know she is with you every day.

    Sue- the idea for a sandwich charm is BRILLIANT, time to talk to the jeweler, eh?

    Maryellen, due to your earlier recommendation I contacted Chemo Angels. One of mine seems to be MIA, but I get very thoughtful and frequent cards from the other. I'll contact this other one you've mentioned, thanks! Hang in there with those SEs. The ginger is supposed to be great

    LoveMyLab- so glad things went smoother yesterday, and crossing my fingers it's smoother sailing from here, and fewer if not no, headaches.

    Eileen- good luck in the chair today. Kitties are funny like that. I'm glad her true personality has come out in the absence of the furry intruder and that you get such comfort from her.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Eileen: Lol at only cat.

    Arlene: They are beautiful. Augie is one stylin pup!

    Yeah, sandwich bracelet!

    Love: I am so glad you got some relief from the headaches this time.

    I assume that big bill will be adjusted. It just makes no sense whatsoever. I have hit my in network deductible but not out of network, which I will hit because of going to NOLA for my surgery.

    I was trying to find a place to get a lymphatic massage and I called the place they gave me at the hospital and they said I need a prescription. I emailed the nurse and she said 'What area of your body do you want worked on?" I KNEW they were going to give me a hassle about this.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Augie is chillin' ! so cute! Tell him thanks from Jack. He's having a hard time keeping mommy under control this week.,

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited April 2015

    Hello March chemo ladies - you guys are all doing great and hanging in there! 

     Just wanted to clarify some info regarding mastectomy and reconstruction.  The federal law that governs this is the WHCRA - the Women's Health and Cancer Rights Act 1998 - passed when Clinton was in office.  This law states that if your insurance covered your mastectomy, they must cover reconstructive or "symmetry" surgery.  The federal law does NOT apply to lumpectomy - even if it is termed partial mastectomy.  Your insurer does not have to cover symmetry surgery to correct a lumpectomy defect, even though some do it voluntarily - there is no requirement.  Some states have started to enact their own legislation regarding lumpectomy, but so far they are few and far between.

    trvler - everyone needs a prescription to get lymphatic drainage massage - even those of us diagnosed with lymphedema.  Just ask any of your docs to write you one - doesn't have to be your surgeon - I have had them written by my MO, and also my family practice GYN nurse practitioner.

    On the subject of lymphedema - risk is usually attached to several factors - number of nodes removed, number of nodes remaining, BMI.  That said, there are many active, slender women with just a SNB who end up with lymphedema.  Unfortunately once you have it, it really does not go away.  Ever.  I had ALND done in a separate surgery from my BMX since my SNB was a false negative in the OR, my BS is one of the pioneers of SNB and has an exceedingly low LE rate amongst his patients - even with ALND he is at about 5%.  During chemo - which was months later due to several surgeries - I had a sudden body-wide swelling event and ended up with bi-lat lymphedema, worse on the ALND side.  Precautions for prevention are lifetime - there are women years out from surgery that are diagnosed with it out of the blue.

    eheinich - I graduated from Granada Hills High School - makes me smile to see your posts and see the city name!

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