March 2015 Surgery Sisters

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  • canadiancampmama
    canadiancampmama Member Posts: 22
    edited April 2015

    Emma and sunflower : I wasn't sure I wanted to be rubbing my incision either. But it was very gentle. More of a light stroking and over the dressing to begin. Than in the shower with soap . I find it soothing and can feel the puffy swelling and the hardness of the incision line both settle down. I do it over my clothes during the day now and find myself doing in public, so I really did lol when I saw the comment about the vibrater

    Hope all are healing well and anyone still waiting for results (as I am ) have good ones.

  • Outdoorswoman
    Outdoorswoman Member Posts: 28
    edited April 2015

    Justify and PhillyEmma thank you for the advice, it's much appreciated.

  • PhillyEmma
    PhillyEmma Member Posts: 47
    edited April 2015

    Getting ready to head to the PS for my first fill. I'm hoping it will ease the movement of the TE's especially on that right side. Sleep has been hard to come by.

    Question for the ladies, has anyone else's skin on the new girls felt like mild sunburn? Mine has felt like that for days and it's just odd. There is no redness or anything and I haven't started any lotions or scar ointments yet not changed soap. I use Dove sensitive unscented. Maybe it's just the nerves reconstructing.

    Have a good day! I'm going to take my Flexeril!!!

  • angmom41
    angmom41 Member Posts: 27
    edited April 2015

    Hi all! Need to read up and see how everyone is doing....

    Saw MO last week. Tamoxifen for 10 years.

    PhillyEmma- I feel sunburn pain, but it's in my right armpit. It was the worst at about 2 weeks and is slowly getting better. Good luck on your first fill! I've had 2 fills so far. Have to say that the fills themselves have been easy (my PS only does 50cc), but the next morning is rough. I can barely sit up. After an hour it's much better, tight and lots of pressure, but manageable. I haven't been able to take the muscle relaxers except at night because they make me loopy and I need to be able to drive my kids places.

    Weird question, but does anyone else get muscle twitches when they yawn? It really makes my pecs vibrate and then my frankenboobs go crazy. It was painful at first, but now it's just annoying. Something tells me that twitchy boobs are going to be the new normal for me.

  • PhillyEmma
    PhillyEmma Member Posts: 47
    edited April 2015

    I decided to get 30 cc's each side. Felt a pinch on each side with the needle and felt pressure as saline went in on right side. When I sat up could feel the gravity a bit more than before so we'll see how the day progresses.

    Make it a good one!

  • Fe_Princess
    Fe_Princess Member Posts: 245
    edited April 2015

    Hello All, I spent two days in the hospital (March 31-April 2). I couldn't get my pain under control. I ended up having to have an expander on my left breast which had the mastectomy. Nothing could have prepared me for the pain I experienced. I couldn't believe this was me lying in the hospital in that much pain. I have been home since April 2nd and of course I am healing a little everyday, but this expander is really awful. I must say that I love having these boards to come to and read. I am glad the mastectomy is over and I am still waiting for the margin results. I am disappointed that I have to have another surgery and go under for a 4th time. My schedule is so up in air since I don't know when my last surgery will be. My doctor gave me a sling for my left arm which keeps me from using it. I notice if I use it just a little is when the pain increases. Sleeping had been on & off as well. I think I've had one good night. Sorry to be such a downer but there is nothing easy about this. Can you all share experience with pain levels, going back to work, depression, heavy sigh...

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited April 2015

    What is flexeril for

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited April 2015

    PhillyEmma,

    We had the same surgery - mine April 10. How do you do this? My drains are very uncomfortable and I worry that they are doing the job. My incisions hurt like heck and I stopped pain meds because I was getting so sick. The expanders are lumpy and tight and hurt. I need help getting up, down, onto and off the toilet. Is this normal for 4 days post surgery? I cannot get comfortable to sleep and feel tired and weak.

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited April 2015

    FePrincess - All I can say is that I totally understand. We don't have much choice except to plow through this!

  • Fe_Princess
    Fe_Princess Member Posts: 245
    edited April 2015

    Hi, how long between your mx and your first fill and your last fill and replacement surgery? Thanks!

    Can you all tell me how long it took you to go back to work? I was supposed to have immediate implant but my pecs were too tight! Now I have to wait for the fill then the final replacement. I am just wondering about timelines. Can you all give me yours, please?

  • Gatomal
    Gatomal Member Posts: 483
    edited April 2015

    glad you are here Fe princess. I can't believe the extra stress of having to figure out timelines and work. It must be very worrying. You've been through a lot. Some days I need to take it an hour at a time to get through. I hate thinking I am spending this time recovering, only to have to go in again for another surgery. I hope in a year's time, I forget a lot about the worry and pain day to day. If your pain is not under control, get help, ask about a steroid shot for nerve pain, if that's what they think it is. Or neurontin for nerve pain. I'm taking it the last few days and it has decreased my symptoms by about 40% so far

  • PhillyEmma
    PhillyEmma Member Posts: 47
    edited April 2015

    Mysunshine48,

    Hang in there. 4 days out is not long at all. You had major surgery to your body and it takes time to heal. You must be gentle and patient and kind to yourself.

    The drains were awful for me. I had one that just irritated me terribly and I could not wait for them to be removed. Once they came out, 11 days post op, I felt better. Sleep was better once the drains were removed.

    As for pain levels, I think that is personal for everyone. My tolerance may differ from another. I moved around a bit easier than expected post op and I stopped the pain meds early just because I don't like them and that's just me. BUT that being said, if you need pain meds, you take them. If I need them, I take them. That simple. And great advice with pain is stay ahead of it. If your pain meds are every 4 hours, take every 4 hours. Don't let the pain get away. It's much harder to catch up once it's going.

    Flexeril is a muscle relaxer.

  • Fe_Princess
    Fe_Princess Member Posts: 245
    edited April 2015

    Hello My Sunshine48, I am two weeks out and still take pain meds. The body does not like the TE expander. I was really strict about my pain med schedule the first week 1/2 but now take one every six hours except at night. There is no way around recovery only through it. It is uncomfortable. I have only one night that I slept through. Do you have someone or people who are taking care of you? Everybody heals at different speeds. One thing I can say that everyone has resonated-DO NOT OVER DO ANYTHING-!

    Gotomal, I had to let go of control. I have to put my recovery first so I practice letting go.

  • CaliRN
    CaliRN Member Posts: 54
    edited April 2015

    FE princess,

    I had my first fill 2 weeks after my mastectomy on December 8th, then every two weeks until I liked the size of them. I had to wait a  month after my last fill to have the exchange surgery. I had the exchange surgery on April 2nd. I have not gone back to work yet but am thinking of going back in early May if that is ok with my PS. My job requires a lot of pushing heavy beds and pulling patients up in bed so I didn't want to go back too early. You are still early in the postoperative period and things will definitely get better. After my last fill I actually started to feel normal again and the TE's weren't so bad! Physical therapy and the lymphedema clinic also helped my a lot with my range of motion.

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited April 2015

    How are you doing after the exchange on April 2nd? I know this sounds silly, but are you happy with how they look? Filled to what and what size implants? Thanks!

  • Valentine99
    Valentine99 Member Posts: 75
    edited April 2015

    PhillyEmma I know exactly what you mean about the sunburn feeling. I actually explained it my husband as being rubbed raw from the inside. It's diving me crazy. I'm going to have these things for a while to since I have to get through radiation before I can have an exchange.

  • DiveCat
    DiveCat Member Posts: 968
    edited April 2015

    I had that sunburn pain after my BMX/direct to implant, but it was all in the armpits.

    It did stick around for a couple of weeks. Since mine was not on breasts I was allowed to use cool packs stuffed into my armpits over a towel to ease the discomfort, but don't do this without clearance as there is a real risk of frostbite doing this over numb and thin tissue, like on your breasts.

    It is related to the nerve damage and I understand some prescriptions might help block those signals a bit, so you may want to inquire with your doctor if it is really bothersome

    It does go away in time though!
  • Valentine99
    Valentine99 Member Posts: 75
    edited April 2015

    Good to know Divecat! Hoping it ends soon :)

  • PhillyEmma
    PhillyEmma Member Posts: 47
    edited April 2015

    Thanks for that Divecat! Good to know like Valentine99 wrote.

    It is so sensitive which is strange because for the most part I'm fairly numb along the skin but it's like the material of clothing, even the thinnest of fabric, feels like a burn. It's bizarre.

    Hope everyone is having a great day!

  • AudreyB
    AudreyB Member Posts: 377
    edited April 2015

    "What Cancer Cannot Do"

    Cancer is so limited...
    It cannot cripple love
    It cannot shatter hope
    It cannot corrode faith
    It cannot destroy peace
    It cannot kill friendship
    It cannot suppress memories
    It cannot silence courage
    It cannot invade the soul
    It cannot steal eternal life
    It cannot conquer the spirit"
    - Author Unknown

  • eaglemom
    eaglemom Member Posts: 76
    edited April 2015

    I haven't posted an update in a while. I had BMx w/o recontruction on March 23rd. I return to work yesterday. I do housecleaning part time, so I was a little concerned whether I would be able to make it through the day yesterday since it is my longest day. I'm happy to report that I worked 8 hours without any problems and no pain. I rode my bike today to see whether I would be able to ride to work tomorrow (I work on the other side of the water on Thursdays and don't like to pay to take the car on the ferry if I can help it) and that also went fine. So, physically, everything is going great.

    Unfortunately I'm still waiting for my written pathology report. I did learn over the phone yesterday that there were 6 of 12 nodes involved. So it seems that I will probably have to do chemo and radiation as well. Kind of bummed about that. It will be at least 2 weeks before I get to speak with an oncologist, so I'm trying not to jump to any conclusions. It's so hard to wait.

    AndreaC; I'm in BC as well and also still waiting for my path report. My surgery was on March 23rd and my surgeon expected results by April 7th, but they still were not in by the 10th. I finally got a little tidbit verbally over the phone. Unfortunately not what I was hoping to hear either; 6 of 12 nodes involved. I don't know how extensive the cancer in the nodes was and no info on hormone or Her2 status yet. We hope to have the final path report within the week. The waiting is always so hard.

    Mysunshine48; my surgeon also took the lymph nodes from the main MX incision. I was so happy to see I had just the 2 horizontal scars from the BMx and not an extra one from the SNB. He did call the MX on the right a "modified radical mastectomy" indicating that lymph nodes would be removed as well. I still had more pain on the right than on the left, but I think that's to be expected because the lymph nodes were removed.

    PhillyEmma, angmom41, and others who asked about the sunburn like pain; I had a bit of a sunburn like pain in the numb area at the back of my arm. By the end of the day it would feel like I had rubbed it raw with sandpaper. It was the worst at about 2 to 2-1/2 weeks. I'm now just over 3 weeks out and no longer have the pain at all.

    Wishing you all continued healing and favourable test results.

  • AndreaC
    AndreaC Member Posts: 220
    edited April 2015

    Hi all - I am 3 weeks postop now, doing great! Doing my exercises faithfully twice a day, more or less. Very little pain. I saw the MO on Monday so we have a plan! PET scan (I have had 3 different tumours in 18 months...1 colon, 2 breast) in 2 weeks, chemo for 3 months, radiation for 4-5 weeks then tamoxifen for 5 years. So good to have the ball rolling! Next step for me is to go wig shopping! I still have one drain in...draining too much, but it's great having the other 3 out!!

    Outdoorswoman: I hope your surgery went well. I thought going in that I would be a wreck, that it would be a shock to see myself afterwards but it was not like that at all. I was just happy to have it over with and to get on with treatment. Mind you, I have clinical depression and am on happy pills which really work! :) Sending you positive vibes! We are in this together!

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited April 2015

    Andrea, may I ask what exercises you are doing? I am afraid of doing something that could cause lymphadema. Also, I will pray that your PET scan comes out clean

  • mysunshine48
    mysunshine48 Member Posts: 1,480
    edited April 2015

    oh, I received a call from my surgeon today and the two nodes he took out were negative. Praise God!

    I will need chemo, but maybe not as much. Will find out more next Tuesday when I meet with the MO. My Mammoprint was high.

    Praying for clear nodes for you sisters still waiting. I could not stop crying. So emotional

  • Sunflowercat
    Sunflowercat Member Posts: 177
    edited April 2015

    mysunshine - great news that your nodes weren't involved!

  • DiveCat
    DiveCat Member Posts: 968
    edited April 2015

    eaglemom: Sorry to hear you had 6/12 + nodes. I know it is hard to wait, even if the "plan" sucks it always feels better to me to at least HAVE a plan!




    Sorry everyone I have not been keeping very up to date in this thread so I may have missed a few additions to the header...if you aren't there, please PM me.

    I keep coming on and start writing, and then just don't finish as I am cognizant people on this thread are getting pathology results back and likely still are worried about the what ifs, recurrence risks, and everything, so don't want to add strain but for those who don't know, my mum has metastatic BC and due to quite a bit of progression recently started Xeloda recently and has had very unpleasant (and apparently rare) side effects and has been in hospital the last few days trying to get things back under control (she can't eat, is vomitting bile constantly). I went and saw her over Easter weekend (she is in Winnipeg, I am in Southern Alberta) and she was already having side effects but was still doing fairly well, given the circumstances, but then took a downturn a few days after I left. I am pretty sad, and scared, and teary, and frustrated at some of her doctors, and it is hard being far away too, though I know my sister, stepfather, stepbrother, and my brother (who flew in from Vancouver Island a few days ago to see her) are there to support her. She had IV chemo with her original DX and did not have any reactions like this, so it is a bit scary. We are waiting to find out what the next step is.

    And so, updating about how my breasts are doing has just seemed...very unimportant (this is just relative to me, not all of you, I absolutely love reading everyone's updates when positive, and empathize when they are having trouble, truly!) Plus my own recovery has been incredibly uneventful - a non-event? I basically have to remind myself I had surgery a few weeks ago. I went for my month-post op last week and my PS is also very pleased. I am much, much more pleased with the shape (I switched from rounds to anatomicals), the rippling (which is the reason I switched) is significantly reduced and not bothersome to me at all, and they feel great too. I am also much happier now with my cleavage, once I got used to it. My PS is funny as he checked me out with my gown open and was very happy, and then closed it up leaving it open at the top in a v-neck shape and said "and the appearance with clothes on is also much nicer! (than before)". For those in the Pic forum I posted some 2 week post-op pics yesterday...I am a little behind but will try and get some 5-week ones up in next few days!

  • Fe_Princess
    Fe_Princess Member Posts: 245
    edited April 2015

    Hey CaliRN, I ended up calling my PS yesterday because the pain in my TE was getting worse exponentially. I was prompted to call from your post of being two weeks out for your first fill. Was told it would get better and its first fill which is two weeks out and I said I already am! They apologized because I was scheduled for April 28th for the first one. I feel so relieved today. I have been given no excersizes. I get confused when people are talking about them. I guess not everyone get TE's? How was your first fill? Was it painful? Did you take a relaxing medication? Thanks!

  • robinblessed54
    robinblessed54 Member Posts: 578
    edited April 2015

    Fe Princess,

    My first fill was two weeks post BMX, TE.  I didn't feel anything due to numbness.  I never had an unpleasant fill.  No topical pain relief was applied or needed.  As you get more and more saline put in, you will feel tightness for a few days afterward, but nothing worthy of pain meds.  Now the first couple of fills, I did take a muscle relaxer and a pain med because just didn't know what to expect.  It wasn't until the end that I could feel the needle just prick my skin at the port site.  Didn't feel the saline being injected either.  Everyone is different, so just telling my story.  I have a friend that is two months behind me with her fills and exchange.  She had a hard time with her fills.  Don't be too nervous.  Just try to relax and see what happens.  I am 6 weeks post exchange and I am really happy with the girls.  They are Allergan 410 with 475 CC anatomical. 

    DiveCat

    So sorry to hear about your mum, it must be hard to be going through this yourself and then having to worry about her.  Trust in God and I will pray for her.  Robin

  • eaglemom
    eaglemom Member Posts: 76
    edited April 2015

    DiveCat; I am so sorry about your mom. Thanks for letting us know about her. I also often have a harder time dealing with others' health problems than with my own. I know a couple other people close by me here who have BC right now and their situations seemed worse than mine. I almost felt guilty that I was having such a relatively smooth, uneventful recovery from my surgery. I feel so sad for others and so powerless to help.

    It's especially hard when family are far away. My parents lived in TX when my mom was first dx w/ ovarian cancer in '87. When she had her first recurrence in '89, they had moved to SC and they are still there. Mom was in remission for over 20 years! and then had another recurrence in late 2010. Her surgery in Januady 2011 was really hard and I felt helpless to do anything for her or my dad. All I could do was send prayers, positive thoughts and call often and visit when possible. My mom luckily bounced back from the last operation, although it has been a long hard road. She's doing amazingly well for all she has to deal with and she has energy again and her spirits are up like her normal self. She's my hero and I continually draw strength from her example of how she's dealt with her cancer over the years. I have to keep reminding myself that the odds are just numbers and they can be beat. I was having a bit of a down day today and my parents just called. It helped. Also, one of my clients sent a very nice supportive email. I'm trying my best to remain positive, but it can be hard when I don't know what to expect.I'm so thankful that I'm feeling well enough to work again. It gets me out and about and talking with people and getting exercise.

    I will say an extra prayer for your mom, Divecat. Thank you for your continued support to all of us here. I really appreciate you!

  • LRGinger
    LRGinger Member Posts: 30
    edited April 2015

    it's nice to see everyone moving on to next steps.

    Eaglemom - Sorry to hear about the nodes. I hope you MO is reassuring to you and that you feel good about the plan.

    I'm recovering wll with the exception of some significant pain under my arm, the burning stinging type. Started PT today, so hopefully that helps!

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