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  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Theresa- another interesting "discussion"

    http://csn.cancer.org/node/221397

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Theresa. I didn't need to hear that about rounds 5 or 6. Someone kill each now!!! Just kidding about the murder. I was told the side effects are cumulative, so that would make sense.

    Katy wow this is a bit exciting. I have another goal. Goal 1, beat the shit out of cancer. Goal 2, meet the women that have been my inspiration.

  • NurseJules
    NurseJules Member Posts: 12
    edited April 2015

    it's hard go keep up with you girls! TTheresa, it sounds like we have the same MO cuz she won't give me any meds for anything. She also has been dismissive about post-chemo therapy, I have read studies that Femora has shown lots of promise for ILC instead of tamoxifen. Post-menopausal women, but I may be there at 48. Anyway, also refuses f/up MRIs, just mammogram. So due to all your support an recommendations, she is fired. I have a nurse navigator who will arrange it for me. Last spa day done Wednesday, feeling like shit but getting closer.

    Theresa, go to Cardiff seaside market next time. That wouldn't happen there. LOL.


  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Thanks Theresa. That confirms what I was thinking. I'll ask him tomorrow when I see him.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Sharon- this thread is the effing Ronald McDonald House for big girls!

    We can make your dreams come true!

    Congratulations on your decision, Nurse Jules. You are in charge of you. Never forget that. Proud of ya.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    NurseJules, none of the after chemo drugs will work for me because I am Er/pr negative. I am doing Herceptin because I was found to be slightly her2 positive after three rounds of testing. I came back with a low level amplification of the her receptors. So I view my cancer as very close to triple negative, which is scaring the crap out of me. I have chemo and herceptin, and that is it.

    So I guess I out on my big girl panties (or big boy panties if I go to Whole Foods) And do the six rounds.

    I haven't been in Seaside Market in about six months. But I do eat the Cardiff crack (burgundy marinated tri tip) at Cafe Topes in Carlsbad all the time. So yummy!

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2015

    Spring 2016 it is! and Sharon we will not do this without you unless you decide you want to forget us (not!).

    I can start my travel savings now so that's good too.
    I'm fading so I'll say good night for now. We have some good plans in the works..

  • NurseJules
    NurseJules Member Posts: 12
    edited April 2015

    My DH is LOL over the Cardiff Crack. Our favorite. Such a beautiful place we live in, yet all I feel is guilty for sitting inside watching golf. This is really a mental battle as much as a physical battle.

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  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Thanks Diane. As if I could ever forget the strong women in my like. Best I start saving too.

    Go jules. We all agree with your photo! This king of you.

  • avmom
    avmom Member Posts: 324
    edited April 2015

    Hi, all.

    I think I'm the lone Canadian in this little group, but would love to meet you all, and including Sharon. I will do some checking, but I think that I have to be at least 6 months out from active treatment before I can get international travel medical insurance. Those of us North of the 49th parallel are regularly reminded of the nightmares that can ensue when unsuspecting Canadians suffer a medical emergency in the States. Most recently, a lovely couple from Saskatoon took a trip to Hawaii when the wife was around 7 months' pregnant. Things went sideways, and their baby was born prematurely in Hawaii, and between the complicated delivery and a stay in the NICU, their medical bills totalled just over $900,000. Last I heard, they were fighting with their travel insurance company, who were denying coverage based on a urinary tract infection. Your can get travel medical coverage (I looked shortly after dx, because we go to Mexico every year), but I think I remember that you can't have had any active treatment within the preceding 6 months. My chemo is scheduled to end in June, and I'm hoping to have my second mx in August, so the spring would likely be the earliest I could come. I would love to be included. Canadians aren't so exotic maybe, but a little international flavour couldn't hurt.

    Bekah, I'm with you on the nausea. I take anti nausea meds continuously for about 10 days. My last treatment was a week ago Monday, and today is the first day that my tummy feels even a bit settled. Of course, it doesn't matter what I eat, it all tastes like a shit sandwich. My saliva has been very foul tasting since treatment #2, so I just eat the least repulsive things I can think of on any given day I eat to a schedule, because I lost about a pound a day in the first ten days after my first chemo. I could stand to lose at least 20 more, but my medical team is pretty adamant that I try to maintain my current weight. So, I eat, and have kept my weight stable. It isn't easy, but I just regard food consumption as part of my treatment plan.

    My hands are dry and old looking, too, despite using lots of lotion. On the positive side, the immune suppression has put my psoriasis (on my right hand in particular) into remission, so although dry, it is more comfortable. I actually have unbroken skin on my right palm for the first time in over a decade!

    I can't seem to post photos from my iPad, but will try to fire up my laptop soon, so I can send some mug shots. It's nice to see everyone's face.

    Best wishes for mild SEs this weekend. Gentle hugs to all.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

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    Good night ladies! Hope everyone has a really nice Sunday.

    Bekah- I hope you stay off the curb tomorrow and get inside for the fellowship.

    xo toall

  • slothabouttown
    slothabouttown Member Posts: 449
    edited April 2015

    Theresa, I was shopping today and didn't even realize a guy was behind me saying, "sir! Sir!"of course I just kept walking not realizing he was trying to get MY attention!

    Then I came home feeling good and ready to do some lawn mowing, checked the mailbox and found a letter addressed to me, inviting me to pre-purchase a cemetery plot! All I can think is that the place I bought my wig online must sell their mailing lists or something. I doubt it was a coincidence but it sure did piss me off and I tossed it right in the wood stove and got busy mowing that lawn. Not in the market for a cemetery plot, thank you.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Avmom- we need the International flair you will bring. Late spring 2016 is looking good.

    Sloth- unF-ing-believable! Good for you to go take it out on the lawn!

    I guess after a while when some of our estranged sisters check in we can start a new thread somewhere (maybe in life after treatment section?) and get a good count of who wants to stay posted on our reunion plans.

    Maybe our hostess with the mostest would like to chair that thread?

    I miss WPMoon and many others. Hope all are well and just enjoying.

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited April 2015

    Where's wpmoon and Princess? Check in gals...we are a bunch of worry worts!

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    sloth omg! As if you needed that piece of mail. Seriously. Is it any wonder that losing our hair is the worst side effect considering without it men don't even recognize us as women? Thank god for my husband who couldn't care less. He said without hair he can see more of my beautiful face and smile - aw! He is a keeper.

    Avmom, would love it if you come. It seems like this forum is going to connect us in the same way that I have never forgotten my grade school and high school buddies. We will know more about each other probably than even our best friends know. For me this forum is where I can be weak and voice my fears, which I don't do with anybody else. My son was shocked about my diagnosis. He said he always viewed me as indestructible so I try not to voice too many fears to him. And with my daughter, I minimize everything because my diagnosis has sent her into a complete panic. Nothing like finding out your mom has breast cancer to freak a 36 year old woman out. Even with my husband, he worries so much so I try to minimize anything I am feeling.

    But I have you guys, and that really matters.

    Hugs to all!

  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2015

    DH and I are avid travelers. We would love to head to the beautiful PNW for a meet up next year. Travel is our greatest passion, and being unable to pursue it lately has really been hard for both of us. It's just more incentive for me to get rid of this cancer. The world is waiting.

    I was finally able to escape the bubble today and enjoy the fresh air for the first time in so long. I even wore my wig! The wig just came off, and I have turned back into a tired little pumpkin, but I have learned to cherish rare days like today.

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2015

    Is anyone else having tachycardia?! Every night my eyes close but my pulse races and its hard to calm down. Around 105 now and its kind of scary.

    Canadians are welcome! Thinking about spending time with the women on this thread keeps me focused and hopeful. It will be so nice to gather when we're getting our lives back. Night all


  • NurseJules
    NurseJules Member Posts: 12
    edited April 2015

    Yes, I've had tachycardia, and I try to focus on deep breathing/relaxation exercises to help it. Add in some Xanax/Valium stew. It seems to come on as I lie down in bed at night, I know this can be a sign of many things (menopause, drug SE, anxiety) but mine seems to come along as a preview to a lovely night of sweating/freezing. 109 is not too high though, but if you feel symptomatic (short of breath, fainting, etc) you might want it checked. I have found it to be self-limiting, though, and they would not treat anything below 150 unless it doesn't go away. All these lovely SE I had no idea even existed! And I've been a nurse for 25 years (never a cancer nurse or patient though).

    Thanks for the advise on nausea, all--I have just decided to keep on it around the clock for a couple days rather than obsess over taking too many drugs. This is all temporary, after all.

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited April 2015

    Yep. Mine was running around 135 and the on-call MO told me to take Ativan for it. Brought it down to 95 but had to stay on Ativan for a few days. What am I saying? I'm still on Ativan! Oh wait...right now it's part of my anti-nausea cocktail. But it did work for the heart rate.

    Probably a result of steroids in my case but they never figured it out definitively.

    Bekah

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2015

    thanks for the reassurance Jules and Bekah. I just woke from a sound sleep to a pulse that was galloping like a herd of horses! Strangest thing. By the time I got the BP cuff on it was 125 . This does not feel ok and its keeping me from sleeping. Will take another .5 ativan

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

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    Here's my gorgeous grandkids. They live near the city. They love it when they come here. I have horses, sheep and alpacas and the neighbor has cows.

  • shaz101
    shaz101 Member Posts: 718
    edited April 2015

    Katy, I think you should be the organiser of our union as you really are the glue that holds us together. Lovely photo again.

    It really does uplift me and get me out of my own head when I read and see photos of all of you. I hope you all sleep well.

  • NurseJules
    NurseJules Member Posts: 12
    edited April 2015

    Diane, I have found Ativan relatively ineffective for this. Xanax and Valium work better. I write every dose and drug I take in a notebook so my chemo brain won't make me OD in some way. Remember, you can take meds now, we will eventually not need them. I try to keep a journal of symptoms and what works for them. And I know this part will be over soon.

    Shaz, what gorgeous grandkids! It's hard to believe we are all in this forum around the world. Well, not hard, but like most of you I had no history or reason to think this would be in my future. As a nurse, I must emphasize to medicate, medicate...remember this is temporary and we need to keep our strength up. Anti-anxiety meds will have to take the place or enhance yoga for the time-being. Then maybe we can skype a yoga class together.

    Shitcake sucks and if you girls didn't swear, I swear I would not be in the group! Fuck this shit-storm that has taken over my life.

    I hope rumors of government on-line monitoring are highly exaggerated. They would have to put an R rating on our group.


  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2015

    Yes, I've had tachycardia too! The MO wrote it off as anxiety, but I'm sure it's related to chemo. See? I should've just asked here first. My MO is ok, but he often makes me feel like a hypochondriac. Has anyone got relief from acupuncture or alternative medicine? (He also isn't very into osteopathy.)

    I love alpacas! They raise them at a college not too far from here, and I love visiting them. Their wool is so soft, and they are quite fascinating. I'd love to visit you on your home turf one day as well, Sharon!

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Indygal- glad you can join us! And glad you were able to enjoy some real life lately.

    I swear I got so excited about our reunion I had a hard time sleeping and now I've been up for an hour trying to put together a stupid juicer I got. I am not good at putting things together. I hate reading instructions but I've been literally studying them and can't do it. I think I'm going to send it back. But the packing up of the blasted thing!

    I'm going to have to calm down as this is a year away. I had some dream kind of like the Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants. We were sending the F charm bracelet around to everyone coming to wear for 2-3 weeks to make some magic happen in our lives until we meet. Has anyone seen that movie? Let's make that an assignment. Because i have an extra charm bracelet and I know where I can get the starter F. Hee.

    Sharon your grandkids are adorable. It's always a bit of a head scratcher for me when anyone here talks about kids and grandkids. I think we are young!

    And very sorry about the tachardia sp? I am familiar and do not like the feeling at all. I have to admit I've been taking clonazepam pretty regularly to try to stay calm about all this. It was comforting Nurse Jules, to have the reminder that we are undergoing a very serious treatment that does require us to act differently, put things in our body that we wouldn't normally do. But this is temporary. Thank you.

  • ninjamary
    ninjamary Member Posts: 306
    edited April 2015

    You ladies are awesome. I take a break and it's beautiful pictures, funny stories and the middle finger (which I f'n love)

    So far ... my port removal and new port surgery is scheduled for 5:30 am Tuesday. That is ... if they get my blood work in time (I go Monday at 8 am) I'm at a loss to explain how hospital's do emergency surgery on people without this blood work being completed in 24 hours. I might have posted this already. I can't remember.

    I went on Facebook this a.m. (like an idiot) and it's pictures of everyone on their fantastic vacations. That pissed me off. It shouldn't as everyone's life should not stop because my own has. Even if I didn't have cancer we wouldn't be on some exotic or beach holiday over spring break. So I gave the middle finger to my FB page. All is well.

    Regarding Oregon...I'm in...I'll stop on my way back from Hawaii.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Mary- let us know how many "likes" your finger gets. That is ridiculous about the bloodwork. They can do most of it in less than an hour. A few other things take a couple of hours. No reason they can't give you more assurances.

    In case you didn't see, EHenrich has offered us to be guests at their rental that sleeps at least 12? I think? in Lake Arrowhead. A few are still coming to Oregon first and we'll drive down the coast. You are welcome to do that too.

    I have a draft list of those who are interested. Your name is now on it. Once it seems like everyone here has had a chance to become aware of the 2016 "F" Chemo Reunion, I'll start a thread in another section where we can talk more detail and keep this thread on point. On what point I couldn't say. We certainly run the gamut here

  • TerryMarie
    TerryMarie Member Posts: 77
    edited April 2015

    Day 2 after the 4th round of chemo, this time with the change in meds to include herceptin , no nausea and I feel ok but the joint and muscle pain is kicking in and my gawd if I dont get a good nights sleep soon I'm going to lose it. Night 3 of just lying there , my brain not shutting off for 2 minutes. I have a feeling the 3 days of steroids is the culprit and I'm hoping to sleep better tonight. As long as I don't pass out through Game of Thrones I'll be happy. 2 more rounds of chemo and I'm tolerating everyone pretty good so far although the whole situation is daunting and scary and I know I'm preaching to the choir. Anyone having issues with steroids and not sleeping? I feel like a zombie.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    TerryMarie- glad the last one went ok.

    Yes definitely have BIG problems sleeping with the steroids.

    A few thousand posts back we were all joking (sorta- cuz it can get rather out of hand) about the shopping sprees online during the wee hours and where to hide your purse and credit cards before (trying) sleeping.

    Is the joint and muscle pain from the Neulasta? Are you getting that? Or from the chemo itself?

  • molly1976
    molly1976 Member Posts: 403
    edited April 2015

    ninjamary, I know what you mean about the facebook vacation jealousy - I was supposed to be leaving this Friday for ten days in Copenhagen. Obviously that whole trip had to be cancelled when I got the diagnosis and I think it's going to be especially hard next week because it will be my husband's birthday, which is the reason we planned the timing of the trip the way we did. Instead of eating our way through Denmark I will be in a chemo chair! I am already working on planning a weekend at a nearby fancy hotel & spa (http://www.fearrington.com/the-fearrington-house-i...) for when I am done with chemo. It's going to cost a fortune for a 2 night stay but we deserve it, dammit!

    I also have tachycardia, usually days 3-4 is the worst. My pulse runs around 90 even when I am healthy.

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