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  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    I know. I have been thinking about her, too.

  • Meme117
    Meme117 Member Posts: 194
    edited April 2015

    So sorry Mary about your port issue and the MO incompetence, a big hug to you💓

    Arlene I like your analogy of a rotten roller coaster. And I had similar glasses till I had LASIK surgery, sorry to hear you can't do contact lenses right now. My hair is also shedding and if I run my hands through it, it all may come out - horrible!

    Katy thanks for the bird pics so lovely!

    My BS and first mo wanted me on TCHP before surgery, then my 2nd MO wanted me on FEC which I haven't seen anyone on. I checked online resources and advocated for the TCHP. If you want to find the recommended therapy for your cancer go to http://www.nccn.org/professionals/physician_gls/f_... you will need to register but can read the most up to date info.

    Joanna love the hat!!

  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2015

    Oh, Mary. I think that delays in treatment are worse than all of my side effects put together. It's hard to get a setback when you are trying so hard to warrior through as fast as you are able. Much love! Your comment about the charm bracelet made me laugh though. I'm inspired to buy one too. It just feels right.

    Trvler,

    I take 8 mg of sublingual Zofran too, but it just wasn't touching my nausea this time. (I've whined about it several times here this week.) Finally, I started taking prednisone for a blistering rash on my hands last night, and it has made an unbelievable difference. I have had zero nausea today, and I have been able to eat small meals. Thank goodness! My doc called in a script for Zyprexa, but I haven't tried it yet. I'll hold off and see how I feel when the steroid wears off after my last dose on Tuesday. Zyprexa's SE's sound scary to me.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    ninjamary, do they flush your port well after accessing it? I'm so sorry you are having issues. I think there are different ports. I have a power port, so maybe when they go to replace yours you should ask what your options are. I haven't had any issues with mine yet - knock on wood. I would be beyond pissed if I were you, and want some answers as to how it happened.

    Can they do your infusion without the port? Sucks to be delayed.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Indy: I am so glad you are feeling better. That nausea is the worst.

  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2015

    Now that I feel better, I can post a pic! :)

    imageEnjoying a nice and unseasonably warm day in Indy and waiting for the thunderstorms to roll through...


  • TerryMarie
    TerryMarie Member Posts: 77
    edited April 2015

    I started chemo the end of Feb/15, I've had 3 rounds so far and the 4th is tomorrow. I feel okay, no vomiting or nausea, I feel pretty good. Meds change tomorrow though and I'm a little apprehensive but so far so good. My main complaint is fatigue and some gross burping all the time but it could be much worse. I have lost all my bodily hair so far except for my eyebrows and eyelashes. I just pop a hat on and no one really knows if I'm just hiding a bad hair day or what. It's a difficult thing to look in the mirror when I take it off but it's a few months and then it'll grow back. My hair was down the middle of my back and quite thick , seems so strange but a small price to pay for getting this out of me and keeping it out for as long as possible.

  • SC_Coqui
    SC_Coqui Member Posts: 133
    edited April 2015

    It's amazing to me how each infusion has been so different so far. I am BEAT already! Last time I breezed right through. I guess I'll be working from home tomorrow. I just hope I can have the energy to get my son's breakfast and lunch put together tomorrow morning!

    I'll be laying low this weekend though. It'll be up to DH to take care of things. His parents are stopping by for lunch on Sunday on their drive up to Asheville. They want to do pizza. It's funny because I would never consider the pizza here (Charlotte, NC area) to be all that great since we lived in NJ and I grew up in Brooklyn, but compared to what they can get where they live (the NC coast) I guess what we have is superb!

  • Carrie37
    Carrie37 Member Posts: 331
    edited April 2015

    ninja, I'm so sorry you have to deal with this! I don't blame you for being emotional!! Sometimes I can't believe the insensitivevity and careless attitude of some medical professionals. last week I sat in the waiting room for 40 minutes just to get my Nuelasta shot! So very frustrating! A think a letter is a great idea.

  • Carrie37
    Carrie37 Member Posts: 331
    edited April 2015

    Trvler, I took Zofran but I think it gives me headaches. After my second AC treatment the nausea was so annoying. My MO gave me the patch which I wore for round 3 and I can't believe the difference! Zero nausea but now I have mouth sores and don't feel like eating. My tongue is killing me

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Indygal- beautiful pic! So glad you're feeling better.

    Welcome TerryMarie- so sorry we meet this way. Good luck with the change up

    Carrie37- I had mouth sores too. Take L-lysine 500 mg twice daily and keep baking soda and a glass in your bathroom. Every time you go in there for ANY reason swish 1tsp in tepid water. Swish swish spit. Rinse. Repeat. You will get relief. In a matter of days.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Joanna- you probably need the rest. You guys have been running. Let DH do for you for a coupla.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    just got back from weekly bloodwork. Fantastic numbers. Baby whites ahead of last time's schedule. Liver enzymes still in line! Yay! Gout/uric acid still being kept at bay without the stupid meds that make my liner enz go up. It's all so inter-related! I'm doing the happy dance right now.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Joanna: How about barbecue? Do you like it? My all time favorite is Hog Heaven. Yum!

  • lovlilynne
    lovlilynne Member Posts: 405
    edited April 2015

    Hi lovely March ladies, I have a quick question for you. Do you drive yourself home from your chemo? Or will you? Today I saw the local MO in prepration for starting my chemo. This doctor said no. I didn't want to have to bother anyone to drive me to/from chemo. I'm just wondering if it's something I can fight (if I know that other do it). I wouldn't do the first one, but I thought I would be able to do the subsequent ones. Just curious what you all are doing.

    Lynne

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited April 2015

    Ninja, I would definitely write a letter. Do not be afraid to change MOs. This is a person who will be in charge of monitoring you for years. I changed MOs last summer. Sorry you had to deal with such incompetence on top of the port issues. I would be beyond mad!

    SC, Have you asked them to slow down the Cytoxan infusion? Usually that helps reduce the sinus stuff. I learned that the hard way.

    Tryler, Zofran does not make you tired. For some people it causes a headache. I have no side effects other than some constipation, but MO forewarned me of that so I took appropriate "precautions". I only take Compazine at night, and only when really needed, because I do not like it.

    Katy, Hooray for great blood work! 6 rounds of TC is more than 4, which is the standard for most people. There is a big study going on comparing 6 TC to AC+T.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    I had my bestie come with me the first time because I was nervous and I didn't know how I'd react. All went ok and I've driven myself 2 subsequent times. Everyone is different. That's the only given.

    My SEs don't usually kick in until day 3-4.

  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited April 2015

    Hi Lynne

    Welcome! My husband insisted on driving/sitting with me the first time. I go for my 2nd "spa day" on Tuesday & will drive myself. Driving was no problem. Also I was nervous and kind of wanted to be by myself.


  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Thanks Kbee. My MO told me that 4 rounds was the standard but there were people doing six. He felt if I tolerated things ok, which so far I am, he prefers 6. He wants to kick it to the curb the first time.

    I know there are absolutely no guarantees in any of this. You can do everything right. Your team can do everything right. And for a certain % it recurs. And more unfortunately some goes to mets.

    All any of us can do is what we are doing. Finding a good MO you are comfortable with- because this guy or gal is going to be a life partner in ways you never imagined. Doing your own research and challenging (politely) if you feel you should. Take responsibility for everything that goes in your body WITHOUT blaming yourself for what you think you may have done to earn/cause/deserve this. You don't. And you'll never figure it out.

    Then for me, I've made a certain peace with death and decided to at least try to find, each day, some joy in the life I have. The one I have today. Including chemo and BMX pain and the rest of the shit sandwich. And nightmare roller coaster. Because this is what I have. This is my hand.

    And when I'm down, and I know I've already said this once today, I reach out to all if you here. It's an honest place and a safe place. And I am grateful. You guys save me

  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2015

    Lynne,

    I get tired after my chemo (TCHP), but it's mostly from the long day. The steroids really give me a boost on chemo day, and I don't usually crap out until later that night or the next day. Honestly, I could've driven myself home after both of my two rounds so far, but I like the security of having someone with me just in case something unforeseen happens like a reaction, etc. I'd equate it to bringing a designated driver, but I would prefer ahangover to chemo any day. ;)

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Yes to Carolina bbq!I love it! I'd always been "meh" about Texas bbq (which is usually beef with a dark tangy sauce) vs Carolina (which is pork and more of a vinegar sauce). All due respect to my Texas sisters. At least based on what this California girl had a chance to sample during my years of excessive business travel (DEVIL on her shoulder says.......maybe all that radiation from flying caused the bc? STOP THAT Angel on the other shoulder says- it's not your fault!)

    I guess you all have figured out I'm crazy

  • SpriteB
    SpriteB Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2015

    Ninja - I'm so sorry you had to go through all that. You had every right to have a meltdown at the office. A letter is a great idea.

    I'm actually thinking of switching MO's as I'm not feeling comfortable at my current center. It's nothing that they've done wrong per say. But I've had to call a few times regarding SE's and FMLA paperwork and I always feel like I'm bothering them. There's no personality, no friendliness. And I don't feel like I've gotten helpful answers when I ask. For example, I have large, painful pimples all over my scalp and some on my face and when I called the office, first they didn't call me back until the next day and when they did call me back they basically said "probably your hair follicles....Do you have a fever?" I didn't and asked if there is anything I should be putting on them and she said no just call if things get worse or you have a fever. I felt confident with the first MO I met with and he referred me to a center that was closer to my home and sort of affiliated with his center and since the switch I just haven't felt comfortable.

    KBeee- I've been going back and forth about whether to switch back to my original MO because I didn't want to deal with having to tell my current MO I'm leaving but what you said..."this is a person who will be in charge of monitoring you for years" just helped me make up my mind. I would not be comfortable dealing with this office for years. How did you tell your MO office you were switching? Any tips? I know I shouldn't feel bad but I do for some unknown reason.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Sprite- I know you didn't ask me, but I would first make an appt with the first MO. Talk about it. They can then request medical records and handle it for you. You won't have to have a conversation at all. Remember. They work for you. Your comfort is primary. You may feel comfortable at a later date calling or writing a letter. Or not. But right now it's all about your comfort and confidence. Hope I'm not out of line jumping in here. Good luck. Thinking of you.

  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited April 2015

    I got a second opinion at a different facility and really didn't connect with my first MO. I switched w my HMO to a new MO and so I wound up w/ a 3rd opinion. 2 of three called for 4 rounds of TC. So that's where I'm at. I felt a little bit bad changing docs but the first doc & I were not a good fit at all & this is the most important/difficult thing I will ever go through (knock wood) I need a partner in it I am comfortable with.

  • SpriteB
    SpriteB Member Posts: 49
    edited April 2015

    Katy - you are not out of line. I appreciate all feedback and your suggestion is perfect. I am going to call the first MO tomorrow and ask for an appointment.

    Eheinrich - thanks for your input too!

    That's why I love this group. I've been going back and forth all day thinking I'm being overly emotional or irrational but I do need to put myself first and do what I'm comfortable with. It helps to know that others have been through it and I'm not alone.

    Ok, now I have a question about a new SE. Hoping it's not TMI. I don't have a running bloody nose but my nasal mucous is hard, dry and bloody and my sinuses feel dry. Anyone have any tips on dealing with this SE?

  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited April 2015

    As that's pre-chemo, I'm not sure what that could be.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    there was quite a discussion about this several days ago.

    I remember Bekah, who is a physician's assistant gave the definitive answer:

    April 2, 2015, paraphrased:

    If only lubricstion is needed, coconut oil

    If u have infection, Neosporin

    If you have allergic/inflammatory issue, OTC hydrocortisone cream

    But best is if u can just get away with lube, coconut oil rocks it and is useful for so many other things.

    I have since become a convert to it, based on hers and Italychick's recommendations oh, and Slothabout uses (and now I do too) lavender infused coconut oil (available at Whole Foods and Amazon) and rub it on my buzzed head at night to condition my scalp and promote relaxation before sleep.

    ,

  • molly1976
    molly1976 Member Posts: 403
    edited April 2015

    SpriteB, my MO told me saline spray is fine to use (not Afrin, just the saline). It doesn't really change the fact that my nose apparently just seeps blood all the time and then dries up in there, but it does make it feel a little better.

    Joanna, I didn't realize you were in NC! I am in Raleigh.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    sprite, I second the saline spray. They have an atomized version at the pharmacy or grocery store that I love. And yes, you can rub coconut oil in your nose too.

    As for the infected hair follicles, my MO gave me topical clyndamycin lotion to rub in my head. But if you don't get relief, go to a dermatologist. They also know how to deal with skin issues and chemo. Folliculitis can be related to chemo, but could also just be related to infected follicles because of the hair loss. I get them "downstairs" if I get too aggressive with waxing, hair removal, etc. Don't be afraid to use other doctors. I went to my primary physician for the prescriptions I wanted to have on hand, like Valium since my MO doesn't believe in pain killers, anti anxiety, sleep aids, etc. she told me take Melatonin which I haven't taken, but if I really need a sleep aid I want heavy drugs lol. Luckily I don't have to take anything, but trust me, I have a drug cabinet if I need it. You can also try coconut oil topically on your head, but you may need a prescription antibiotic if it is really bad. Coconut oil is counterintuitive. Because it is an oil, one would think it is greasy and makes things worse. But that is not the case. It contains natural anti fungal properties and antibiotic properties. And it washes out of stuff fine.

    As for driving after chemo, I can totally drive. The only issue might be if they have to give you Benadryl and it knocks you out. It does the opposite to me.

    I am also scheduled to do six rounds of chemo if I can take it because chemo and Herceptin are all I have since I had negative Er/Pr receptors. I will see how I am doing after four rounds, but so far, the only side effect I have had after two rounds is nasty mouth. I can exercise, work, do whatever I want basically.

    I interviewed four MOs and went with the one I felt most comfortable with, so don't be afraid to change. Or meet with your current one and lay it on the line. It is your life after all.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    Katy, awesome on the good blood work!

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