Starting Chemo March 2015
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Karen,
I totally agree with everything you said. I used to be Superwoman/Amazon woman/Super mom... you name it. No one could do as good as I did. I gave that title up after the last round of chemo. My mother-in-law is having Easter dinner on Sunday and I'm not going. It's the entire family crammed into her 2 bedroom condo. In past years you could wear a bathing suit and still be sweating. I can't do it nor do I want to do it. I'm pulling the cancer card and I don't care. I don't feel like discussing my treatment, how I'm doing listening to how great I look and how strong I am and how I will win this battle. I love my mother-in-law to death. She has fought cancer 2x and is still kicking at 85. When I mentioned to her that I might not make it to my niece's wedding in June she said "sure you will, you'll be fine". Uh...really? Even I don't know that. If chemo is that Thursday there is no way in hell I will be walking around mingling with 200+ people two (2) days later. Nor would I want to.
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I've outright nixed travel. Only trips I'll be making is to appointments with my breast surgeon in Baltimore. Period. Before this, we visited both sides of our families every couple-few months, but not now, nope, sorry. The roads run both ways, people. If they want to see us, they can drag their butts into THEIR cars for once, just not going to put myself through that, not to mention risk picking up any & every roadside germ betwixt and between. Crowds are a no too. An absolute, non-negotiable no. Only exceptions are my sons' spring band concerts, where I will be wearing a surgical mask...without as much as a smidge of embarrassment.
Way I see it, I don't have anything to prove to anybody. I am all about protecting myself and my health as much as I possibly can. If people are expecting me to be a BC Wonder Woman, too bad for them. That isn't my job. Surviving this is.
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Eheinrich,
I feel like I spend a majority of my time now reimagining my life and resetting my priorities. I happen to love my job I've had for 12 years but even a job you love shouldn't muscle out all the other joys we should be experiencing in life. For me, I didn't even realize how over the years I'd become one of those people who doesn't really have a life outside of work. Sometimes I would spend a whole weekend without talking to anyone except my dogs! My diagnosis and surgery required me to ask for help from my friends and they came back into my life with a vengeance and made me realize what I had let go of. I'm not going to let that slip away again.
I still love my job but all the politics and personal dramas between co-workers gets zero energy from me these days. After my diagnosis that immediately became petty and an unimportant waste of precious time and brain space. I also don't work overtime anymore. There's nothing that can't wait till tomorrow in my "new" work ethic.
Something I haven't told anyone, but maybe this group will understand, is as soon as I got my initial diagnosis ( the "it don't look good" call after mammogram) I spent a frenzied weekend cleaning out my garage and basement and every drawer and closet in my house. I made at least 20 trips to Goodwill! I had it stuck in the back of my mind that if I died of cancer I didn't want my friends to have to sort through my cluttered closets and unorganized garage. I got rid of a ton of stuff- it was an extreme reaction to my fear of dying from this but I think it was also the first step in a hard reboot-throwing out anything that might stand in the way of a clear path out or through the process I was about to start.
I live alone so I don't have someone beside me or just in the next room to say "what the hell are you doing now?" Or pull me out of my own head and back into reality, which can be good and bad at different times. I know I'm getting over some of the initial fear that made me throw away so much of my stuff cause I've done a little shopping recently-for the future- because I believe I have one again!
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Eheinrich - I've had a complete change of perspective as far as life is concerned. I'd already been trying to live a more positive life before diagnosis, and after diagnosis I've tried to maintain it. My whole life, I've been AFRAID to do things - afraid to take risks, afraid to move away from family, just afraid. I've finally decided that I'm DONE being afraid. As soon as my Herceptin treatments are done next year, I want to take a long, relaxing vacation to Bali or Bora Bora.. somewhere idyllic. Then I'm considering moving away to see what it's like. There's no time like the present!
Diane - your fears and concerns are so valid. When I was first diagnosed, I spoke to a woman who flatly told me, "Cancer is a lonely disease. No matter how much support and love you have, you're the only person going through it." And she's been right. No matter how much support we all have, we're the only ones going through our experience. I've been grateful for the women on this board who all just GET IT. We all understand each other.
Bekah - you look STUNNING! I hope the SE's haven't been too bad for you.
Katy - I'm glad you went to the Dr. and got your rash checked out! I hope the prescription helps!
The exhaustion train has hit me hard this week, too. That and heartburn have been my main side effects this go around, which I suppose I should be grateful for.
Happy weekend!
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WP : Did you ever say where you lived? I hope you get to go to Bora Bora or Bali someday!
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Until I get to take my fantastic vacation when all this is over this is how I treat myself. A charm after every milestone. I probably should purchase some back-dated charms...DX, biopsies, MRI, port...anyhow I started with chemo treatments. The teardrop charm is for my head shaving. It reminded me of a hair strand..
and I DO ROCK!
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Mary- I love love LOVE your charm bracelet and your choices. Very classy. I started one for my neice (who left an hour ago). She, like me, has never been much for jewelry, but I believe she really loved it. I started her off with a few, and I got so into choosing some for her I bought a matching one for me! Treat yourself, right?
My favorite is I bought 2 matching "peas in a pod" to honor our closeness, different only in they each have a small birthstone added for our respective birthdays.
She left an hour ago. I averted meltdown somehow, was very sad to see her go. But it was such a joy to be around a 21 year old, so full of life, so dang smart! I was totally enriched by the visit. Now I'm in bed on the heating pad, gonna give my baby whites a chance.
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Hi everyone. Feel like I've been away for ages and I've missed you all.
Diane, how are you feeling now?
Those who mentioned fatigue and aching legs, yep I have both and my lower legs and feet are so cold all the time.
I'm feeling a bit blue too. I think its become reality and I've still got a long way to go. Everyone is getting on with their lives and my life has been paused. I can't even enjoy food as it all tastes weird. These migraines are driving me to dispair, another one at 1am, im assuming that because im lying down the inflamation in my head and neck stiffen and cause the migraines!!! Or am just clutching at straws? My partner is getting a virus, which my mum also has. He's grumpy with me because I said I was worried about getting it. I guess he would probably like some sympathy!!! And I can understand that.
Katy I think its normal for anyone to feel a bit flat when a lovely visited leaves especially when you live alone. Please take your own advice and be very kind to yourself.
Big hugs to you all and welcome to all the newbies xxx
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Shaz- thanks. I will. I'm pretty tired and think laying low a couple of days will do me good.,sorry you had yet another night of migraine. And potential dangerous bugs circling. One good thing about living alone is I do feel I can control my exposure to bacteria and virus somewhat.
I've woken up with headaches the past several nights. Not migraines, but painful. I tried massaging my own head and neck but ultimately I just get up. It drains. swollen glands, sore throat, fatigue, and an improving rash is what I am feeling, SE wise. I guess the headaches could be sinus, or perhaps clogged lymph system? Who knows. Anyway, good to hear your "voice". Been quiet around here today. Hope everyone is ok.
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Neverthought: My legs feel like I've run daily marathons. On my Neuprogen days times that by a bazillion.
Sloth: after my diagnosis I told my husband that I would organize the important papers so they were easy to find if... he told me he would figure it out and that it would all be fine. I am however having a yard sale w some girlfriends in May. Not just in case, but just cause.
Moon: I have had similar thoughts. We are at our lake place this weekend and usually I don't drive our boat because I'm afraid to. I'm driving it and parking it tomorrow. What a stupid thing to be intimidated by. But I have thought about all of the things in life thsat I didn't do because I was nervous/afraid/etc. Screw that. Definitely going to keep an open mind about my capabilities. I'm doing chemo/mastectomy/etc I can do xyz.
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E- yes, you certainly can do xy and z. And X, Y AND Z. Rooting for you tomorrow to take the wheel in your hands and manhandle that thing! Then softly in for a smooth and controlled landing. You aren't the same girl you were a few months ago. I'm proud of you. Enjoy your lovely place on the water. String together a couple of those beautiful moments that we've all been talking about lately. Live life. xox
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Hi all, I am reading a lot about headaches as SE, and am wondering if anyone knows about the Vodder way of lymph node massage for the head and neck? I have heard about it and it makes sense. I have not started chemo yet, but am already making lists of things that may help with SE. From what I understand, there are massage therapists that specialize in lymph node massaging. Who knows.....may work
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Shaz, if you think lying down contributes, have you tried sleeping in a recliner? Just wondering if it would help to keep your head elevated. Just a thought.
Not to mention coconut oil again (Bekah lol, don't go there), but my mouth has tasted terrible. The past four days I have rubbed coconut oil on my gums, tongue, etc., and my taste buds came back two days ago. Of course, then food tasted great and I ate like a pig, now up two pounds. Heck, I will try anything. I totally can't stand the mouth thing.
Katy, I am so glad you had a visitor. Sounds like you had a great time. Visiting with others totally gets me out of my head. I have spent the past three days with my grandkids, and they have kept me thoroughly occupied and out of my head. Love them to pieces. My daughter tried telling my grandson Jack that grandma might not be feeling good and he said grandma is never sick, she can always get me. So of course I had to go get him. Love that boy! And yes, my dog and my grandson are both named Jack lol. We figured since Jack the boy is three, soon to be four, and our dog Jack is 12, sadly he won't be around later in life for too much confusion.
Peaceful, beautiful day and night in San Diego. Happy thoughts to everybody!
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Sunshine,
I've been getting MLD treatments since I've had some issues with truncal lymphedema post mastectomy. I posted about MLD for chemo headaches a couple of pages back in case Shaz might find it helpful for her migraines. My therapist sees me once a week, we skip the week I have chemo, waiting at least 5 days for the infusion to clear the body before getting MLD. She is Vodder method certified and works almost exclusively with women during or post breast cancer treatment. In a nutshell, she told me that MLD is especially helpful at reducing "chemo brain" SEs and headaches.
http://www.vodderschool.com/manual_lymph_drainage_...
That link is to the Vodder website. There is an option to search for a certified therapist in your area. I can tell you this type of massage has helped me immensely. Also, the techniques are very easy to learn and so it is something you can do yourself any time you start to feel SEs or lymph fluid build up. It's very different from traditional massage because the lymph sits right under the skin, so the treatment consists of really gentle movements in a pattern that follows the natural "watershed" pathways of the lymphatic system.
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Hi everyone! It's late so I won't make all the comments to your posts I thought of as I read...wish we could just type our thoughts as soon as we had them.
My hair was shedding yesterday and today at work after washing my hands, I ran my hand through my short pixie cut and a moderate wad came out and into the sink. I rushed back to my desk and through on a scarf I'd brought just in case. Today was very emotional for me...it's the first time I dared to google prognosis for HER2 positive BC and it really shook me up. I started calculating the years and some crazy thoughts came to me-such as "well now I really will never be a professional athlete or whatever..." silly cause I've never had a desire to be special but when your life isn't threatened you think "some day" anything will be possible. Now I guess I realize how very mortal I am and my time is truly limited. It just made me cry every time I thought about it. Fortunately it's a 45 min communte and the tears were gone by the time I got home. My daughter was waiting to take me out for dinner. We talked and laughed like we can and it was wonderful. I haven't taken off the scarf yet but she offered to buzz me in the morning. I think the hair loss thing just triggered so many feelings but I'm physically feeling better. Just in time for Chemo #2 on Tues.
My MO put me on a higher dose of prednisone (20mg) because I had so much bone and joint pain around day 7 last time. It helped tremendously even though I know it's horrible on your bones, increased risk of infection, etc.
I have been sorting and cleaning since my diagnosis too. I don't want my sister seeing how disorganized I really am!
Good night sisters and thank you for being "out there." Next post won't be all about me.
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Thanks Sloth and mysunshine. I'll see if there is anyone here that knows how to do it. I do have a normal massage booked on Tuesday. I'll speak to her and see if she knows how anyone or has any knowledge of it.
Theresa I don't have a recliner 😕 I'm not sure I could sleep sitting up. I'm so glad your doing so well. I might try the coconut oil. I used to use it on my hair...when I had some!
Diane, nice to hear that you're spending time with your daughter. I hope it gives you a lift. Sorry to hear about your hair. I know I was dreading it, but now I don't worry about it. I've been assessing my life on and off since DX. I think its probably normal. And don't apologize for your feelings. This is all about you!
HAPPY EASTER everyone xxx I wish chocolate tasted like chocolate lol.
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Diane, I'm HER2+++. I know it's aggressive, but early on I decided to listen to some ladies on these boards telling me to stay away from Dr. Google. I go by what my oncologist told me. I do not remember exact percentage he gave me, but it seemed quite low, my prognosis appears to be pretty good. I had surgery, I am getting chemo and targeted therapy, I will probably be put on Tamoxifen, so we are throwing everything at it available. I'm sure your oncologist is doing the same for you.
As far as mortality goes, I've had similar thoughts to yours, even before my final diagnosis. Nowadays I don't think about it this way. Chemo and side effects keep me occupied enough. And who is to say I don't get killed in a car accident or die of something else before cancer gets to me. Sometimes it's difficult for me to stay in the moment, to enjoy the present and not worry about future. Time after time I catch myself worrying and try to pull myself back to today.
I'm sorry, I'm not very good at cheering people up. I hope you found some peace of mind and that you are doing better today.
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Sharon, you read my mind about chocolate! I'm a big chocoholic. I used to give up sweets for Lent and overload on chocolate once Easter came. Now I cannot eat anything sweet, because it worsens my nausea and nothing tastes as it should.
This too shall pass...
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Hi everyone
9 days post first chemo and feeling ok now except some tummy troubles. My sister invited me to her cottage for the day and I was excited but declined due to no running water. I have BMs all the time and they require lots of skin cleansing and Desitin as it is so acidic. Between that and the fact that it is only going to be 50 here and once I get cold I never warm up. She said I should try it but I am afraid to get too far from a real bathroom. I think she understood. I really wanted to go with but think I made the right decision for me. This cancer is really isolating in that way. On bright note I started Pilates yesterday and that went really well. Luckily there is a bathroom there! Happy Easter everyone.
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Early on, I got a number (from my breast surgeon, of all people). I had a great whopping meltdown of a cry. Then, I picked myself up, brushed off the grit, and decided I am not a number. I won't be defined by that number, scared of it, or depressed about it. I never even asked my MO for her numbers once all the tests & staging was completed. I don't want to know. Maybe later I'll be emotionally ready for that, but I absolutely could not go into chemo with a number (post pet/ct, post CT w/contrast, post 3rd biopsy) rattling inside my head. After surgery and that path report comes in...probably. I just can't afford it right now.
Has my dx changed my outlook on life? Too soon to tell. I didn't get the official news until 7 weeks ago. I'm still processing. I always was a seize-the-day kind of woman, though, so that part, no. It has changed me, incredibly clarifying as to what is and is not important. I've let go old dead weight, one-sided relationships I'd been hanging onto out of the sheer insane hope that maybe one day things would improve. I suddenly realized, if the risk of my death wasn't enough to produce a tectonic relationship shift, nothing would and that isn't my fault. Letting go is okay. Better than okay. It's healthy.
Wishing a happy, SE-free Easter to everyone!
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Karen- your readers (among others) are very lucky. It is always a pleasure to read your posts, no matter what the topic. You express yourself clearly, with such a good balance of good nature, good humor, and rapier- like wit haha.
I think you are very wise to not allow yourself to be defined by a number. Even if it were very good, I have learned reading these boards that there is no safety in them. You have stayed your course like any excellent captain in a storm (what is it with me and the nautical references, lately? I must be channeling my dear departed father). You have trimmed your sails. Actually I had quite the visual when you mentioned offloading the dead weight.
An old Western film depicted a family moving West in a wagon train. Besieged by Indiams, the elements, and their own awkward selves, they began, finally, to evolve. In a dramatic scene, going up a mountain trail, the beasts pulling this one particular family's wagon simply could not go on. Too much baggage.
They pushed a huge, heavy, and quite unnecessary pianoforte out of the back of their Conestoga and it went down the side of the mountain, the cacophony of the musical elements crashing against each other and the rocks framing the audio. They wouldn't be needing it where they were going.
I know I have, in my musings and life re-imaginings, inventoried the back of my Conestoga wagon. There have been casualties. Those casualties have made way for opportunities.
Thank you to all of my sisters here, who rank among the most valuable of those opportunities. Your friendship, support, and love are priceless and life-sustaining to me.
I hope everyone enjoys a SE minimal weekend.
Wishing us all, fair winds and following seas.
Katy
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Jumping from Jump Rock into the New River right before my mx in 2011. Such a rush!
Thank you all for the excellent insight regarding my perseverating over the statistics I was so foolish to look up. I knew I shouldn't have but in some strange way I think I needed to look if only to allow me to put things in perspective and embrace gratitude.
I went to a luncheon in Fairfax, VA today and met some ladies from northern VA thread. It was only four of us but I immediately felt comfortable and it was inspiring to see women safely on the other side of their treatment. Well worth the hour long drive!
Bekah-I think I have the same butterfly scarf you were wearing in one of your earlier pics (or maybe it was Sharon?) anyhow I wore it today and it kind of felt like having my hair long again and made me think of this group.
Still haven't buzzed my hair but DH said he would tonight. I really just have to bite the bullet and get it over with. I can't take the scarf off without pieces falling down my back requiring multiple showers a day. WTH cares anyway? You ladies ahead of me in treatment have inspired me to just go for it. I remember so many posts about holding on to the hair but also feeling better once it was done.
Happy Easter sisters!
Diane
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Checking in. 3rd AC was Thursday and I've pretty much been in bed ever since. Some nausea but really just feel achy and kinda flu-like right now. Fatigue and steroid bloating are the worst of it. I gained 8 lbs in 2 days and I haven't eaten hardly anything. My face looks like the stay puff marshmallow man and my fingers are tight.
I did ask DH to get me out of the house for a few minutes today so he drove me to see the progress he's making on the house we are renovating. It wasn't much but it was nice to get out and then the fatigue came back.
Will report more when I resurface from the chemo fog.
Bekah
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Diane- truly awesome photo. Just remember although BC changes you, that girl jumping off the Rock is still there. And we love her.
Bekah- so sorry the fatigue lorry made his unwanted delivery. Best wishes for a strong comeback soon.
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Bekah, it's good to hear from you. I hope those flu like symptoms pass soon. Eight pounds seems like a lot of fluid, did you let you MO know? I gained about 4 in a couple days and hadn't hardly eaten anything. I remember they told me to report any unusual weight gains...I will send you special thoughts tonight!
Oh and I did it!
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Diane, what can I say... Just gorgeous.
Bekah, I hope you enjoy your drive. And I still keep hoping that its will get better for you! That's a huge amount of fluid. Once it starts moving you'll have to stay close to the toilet! It'll be a river.
Katy, how are you now your visitor has gone?
I'm going out today!!! A friend is having a bbq. they'll be quite a few people there. So I'll see how I go. I like many of you get tired very quickly.
I also wanted to report that I slept all night and didn't have a migraine 😁
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Dianne - you look so amazing and beautiful!
I just had the best 30 minutes with my 13-yr-old DD. She wants to be an adult so badly but she's not ready to let go of being a kid either. She came in to show me her Easter eggs that she dyed with friends, informed me that she would still like an Easter basket - you know with a stuffed bunny, candy, and such (I had already put one together for her) and then we got to talking.
It ended up with me teaching her how to do her own breast exam and I let her feel all of my remaining 'normal' lumps. It opened some really good discussion and was a true bonding moment. Before she walked out of the room she turned, gave me a kiss and said 'you're still beautiful mom...'
Open faucet...commence blubbering...
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Katy-thanks. I use that pic when I need to do something hard. It felt so good to just jump and not worry about falling. Your unconditional acceptance is treasured.
Sharon-So happy you finally got a break from the migraines! You deserve to have a wonderful day.
Bekah-I just loved your post. Those special moments will stay with you forever. I can tell you are a great mom (and you made my faucet run too)!!
Hope everyone sleeps well tonight!
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Great bekah, I just put my makeup on... Now you have me crying! That's so beautiful.
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Diane- I didn't see your shave before- have to say you are rockin' the look!
Shaz- nothing could have made me happier today than hearing that you had at least one night of relief. I so wanted that for you. Enjoy your outing today. Sorry you had to do your make- up over, but so worth it to hear...
Bekah's awesome moment she shared with us about her daughter. Sorry about the fatigue truck making its unwanted delivery though Bekah. Hope you make a quick comeback.
I am feeling better. Rash better, swollen glands better, appetite a little better. I took Jack to a play date with his co-workers at Furry Friends Therapy Dogs. It's a day they can just be dogs. Jack ran and ran and chased a huge hound around and they rolled all over each other in the grass. Made me so happy. He totally wore himself out until finally.......this:
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