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  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited March 2015

    i do have numbness around the mouth and tongue for a few days after a/c chemo but no hand or feet issues. I've heard there is so much potential for side effects so nothing would surprise me.

  • Darumama
    Darumama Member Posts: 135
    edited March 2015

    I had AC #3 yesterday. Like clockwork the SE started kicking in 3 hours after I got home. The nausea I'm used to, but I had a lot of fleeting aches and pains yesterday. Headache, bodyaches, and my fingers and feet hurt too. Today is a little better. If this is like the other times I don't anticipate feeling like myself till Wednesday/Thursday. Cannot wait till I get the last AC done!! As for the Taxol I think I'm going with the 12 weeklies, but have to finalize with the MO on Wednesday.

    Signed up for Look Good Feel Better at the MO's office for 4/28. Wish it were sooner.

    My hair is gone. I have a very few stragglers that give me a little peach fuzz appearance, but there is no mistaking - I'm bald. I have to get my wig thinned this week. I haven't worn it yet because it's got way to much hair - I think it doubles the size of my head. I'm quite OK with my hats anyway. I think the wig would be good for going out to eat, public events, etc.

    For those of you who have shaved your heads do you have any stubble growing in and is it annoying? Do you have to keep shaving it?


  • wrmbrownie
    wrmbrownie Member Posts: 114
    edited March 2015


    I had my hair cut really short (not shaved like with a razor) and I still have stubble. Since I've always had stubble, it's not annoying but I think (based on what I've read from older groups here) that my stubble will probably fall out too.

    I just finished Taxol #9 so I figure the rest will fall out when I start A/C.

  • Bikerbabe17
    Bikerbabe17 Member Posts: 116
    edited March 2015

    I have stubble now, guessing it will eventually all fall out. It's sometimes annoying when I sleep, it doesn't hurt, but itches and I can feel it. We had an open house at my local Harley dealership, and I took my first few selfies with some bald biker dudes. A few I knew and it was easy to ask them, but a few were strangers, and we're puzzled by request until I took my scarf offand explained, than they were happy to oblige. Someone even told me looked pretty hot...I love my biker friends. I'm going to put all my photos in a book once my journey is done.

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited March 2015

    My DH of 37 years said he never really noticed my ears as I always had them covered with my hairdo. We have to keep a sense of humor through this journey. Said he married a Vulcan as they are a little pointy on top. Live long and prosper!

  • wrmbrownie
    wrmbrownie Member Posts: 114
    edited March 2015


    That's funny Cloesmom! My ears have always been covered with my hair too. I have always had long hair. Now, I am surprised each time I go by my bathroom mirror and see myself! I will have been married 31 years this August. I'm sure you look like an awesome Vulcan!  :)

  • vr423
    vr423 Member Posts: 29
    edited March 2015

    Did anybody having chemo without a port, ever have soreness, slight swelling of the arm that the iv was in? A few days after my 2nd round I woke up with a sore arm, and thought at first that I must've slept on it too long. But it has gotten worse, hurts to touch from my elbow to my wrist and is slightly swollen. (Not lymphedema, it's not the side of my surgery)

  • HopeInTheStars
    HopeInTheStars Member Posts: 14
    edited March 2015

    I shaved my head, had some stubble grow back (very little, think less than a 5:00 shadow) and that's all that is left. I do have big bald spots (near my neck) and small finger sized spots all over. I don't think I'll shave again and just see what happens. I am most comfortable without anything on my head but wear a scarf in public.


    The side effects have gotten easier for me with AC. I was out all day for a school function for my daughter and other than exhaustion, I feel fine. I do way better when I'm with people all day. During the week in home alone and get depressed pretty easily. I'm hoping to have minimal se's from taxol and am anxious to get things going.


    My BRCA testing was finally set up for next week. I guess when your surgery is months out it's easy to be forgotten. lol

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited March 2015

    Hi VR423, I literally just came on to post a question about skin reactions. I'm but using a port- really don't want one! First, have you contacted your MO and advised them? Please do if not. My issue is these splash marks that look like bruises near IV site. I posted a pic a few pages back. Last infusion nurse said was a chemo burn from it leaking from IV under the skin. Said it shouldnt happen again as if to. Suggest the previous nurse didn't put IV right. Well the 2nd one is smaller n lighter but there nonetheless. Hope u feel better soon

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited March 2015

    hi all, lost this thread, have had my second chemo mar 19, and its a bit better, I have hydrated so much more this time, I think this helps the SE a bit, even though no one could have warned me about the mouth sores enough, they went away right before 2nd chemo and they are showing up on opposite side now, but the warm, salted baking soda mix helps neutralize the mouth, I do swish at least 10 x's a day or more. Dry skin is kicking in, so removed rings so I can add cream, gasoline, moisturizer all day long when I remember." Does anyone have a seranoma they are dealing with? Not sure what to do yet?

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited March 2015

    is your serenoma from your surgical site?

  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited March 2015

    hey vr. I'm doing a/c without a port. Have had 3 so far. 2nd time had swelling. 3rd time a big bruise. Dr said if swelling to put a warm compress on it. They had to use another vein this last time as my first vein was still sore from the first two infusuons. I'm having 8 total infusions and just didn't want to deal with a port and one more scar. Nurses said its about 50/50 number who go with ports vs veins.

  • LK121212
    LK121212 Member Posts: 20
    edited March 2015

    I did Neulasta on my first round and the bone pain was hard, But that is not the IMPORTANT part , what I noticed was that the Neulasta gives a false outlook of what the Chemo is doing to you by raising your WBC automatically and then you are not able to see if the dose of the Chemo is to high. The reason I tell you this is because, I decided to do the daily Neupogen on the 2nd dose and I am glad I did. On the 2nd dose the Doctor was able to see that the dose was extremely high by the fact that I became Neutropenic and my labs were so low that the protocol calls for a decrease in the dose by 20% if this happens. So what does that tell me?? It says that the dose is a standard formula and what it is doing to your body may be different from what it does to another. So I am tolerating the decreased dose much better and went back to Neulesta now that I know what the true affect of the Chemo is on my body.. Just FYI I don't know why this is not a standard to first see how the Chemo affect each individual before doing the Neulesta.

    "Hope this helps everyone" We have to be proactive and not just settle for what s told to us..

    LK

  • Chloesmom
    Chloesmom Member Posts: 1,053
    edited March 2015

    don't know if it helps prevent a problem but the IV hurts unless they keep a warm pack on it. Then it's fine. I havethem give me a new one every 1/2hour to keep it warm

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited March 2015

    yes the seranoma is at the surgery sight from mastectomy, it is not letting up, so I am thinking that I should get this done while my numbers are better toward the end of each chemo round,

    As for the chemo bags, it's based on weight nd height, and I agree they should temper it closer to each individual, but we are all guinea pigs in this world of cancer and I hate my body being used as such, but the caveat is that if I do nothing, do I get another 64 years before the next cancer appearance? Unfortunately, I do not think that is how the cookie crumbles, they tell me, not with this her2+ receptor in my body..". So if this help them understand more on this cancer , then I hope they can make it tolerable or cure the next generation.

  • Damselfly
    Damselfly Member Posts: 62
    edited March 2015

    Hi everyone,

    Just finished AC #3 this morning and it feels like the SE's kick in earlier with each dose. Already exhausted, which I expected, but also got heartburn, which i don't usually get for days. I popped a prilosec as soon as I felt anything and hopefully that will help. And just generally, yuck.

    I always wondered about the dosing. I mean, if Mary is twice as heavy and Jane and gets a substantially larger dose, that doesn't mean she has twice as much digestive tract, hair, or feet/hands that are that much bigger. I wonder if there is a weight/height that is the sweet spot where it correlates really well from a side effect standpoint, and if the symptoms become more severe for very skinny, or large women. But I don't have the energy to wonder much.


  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited March 2015

    I wonder the same thing Damsefly...I know they calculate the dosing for the actual chemo drugs based on weight. I don't know about the pre-meds, but I would assume so, although not quite as specific - I think they round up!

    All I know is that I'm small - I weigh 105 pounds on a 'heavy' day and my SE's are off the charts. I've only had 2 rounds of AC so far and I go in on Thur for #3. I keep telling them that they're dosing me too high and they basically say 'nope, sorry...chemo just sucks and for some it sucks worse'. Gee...thanks doc.

    Bekah

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Hi rleepac, I never knew that "sucks and/or sucks worse" was a medical diagnosis. WTH? I am so sorry they said that to you, but some Doctors suck and some suck worse than others. Oh my. I hope you hydrate, snack, and sleep to repair yourself. Cheryl

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited March 2015

    Since I'm also a healthcare provider (I'm a PA), I think my docs sort of 'relax' when talking to me and they are able to express their frustrations colleague to colleague instead of being 'eternally professional'.

    I know it sounds kinda bad the way he said it, but I was actually glad that he didn't use some psycho-babble mixed with medical jargon to make it sound more scientific. It does suck. I was just grasping at anything to try and explain why I have worse SE's and someone else doing the same treatment sails right through it. The reality is that there is no way to predict SE's - at least not yet.

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited March 2015

    sorry your SE are worse this time, I was better, even though almost all came back, but the fatigue was better, and the quicker turn around was there, In my case, I am still thinking the fluids in my case, but they can't hurt, so try more hydration next round. Got a cut today, and it took a pretty good time to stop the bleeding. I cleaned and put iodine to clean, had to hold it close for 15 minutes easy to stop bleeding, I finally put steri strip to be sure it stayed closed. Watch for cuts girls.

  • Damselfly
    Damselfly Member Posts: 62
    edited April 2015

    Well day 1 did suck worse (nausea caught up and I couldn't keep anything down, even with all the meds I was allowed, but got on track at bedtime and now it's sort of 'normal' for me, which is moderate discomfort and tiredness, but nothing scary. Fingers crossed things get a bit easier for the next three weeks. I was thinking in the beginning how I would rather have had the doses closer together, but now that I'm in the thick of the things and feeling my heart palpitating as I exercise during that first week I do like having a longer time of 'recovering' and reassuring myself that I am still myself before I get the next round.

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited April 2015

    oh I'm sorry you were so sick :( praying you're feeling better soon. This really sux. I have tch #3 tmw... sigh. Hoping I don't have a bad set of SE this round. Last round was same as first- sluggish digestive system but knew what to do soon as the burping started. Only thing is last round it lingered a little longer but was a quieter queezy than the first round. I HATE THIS

  • Nina2015
    Nina2015 Member Posts: 16
    edited April 2015

    I agree with whoever said staying hydrated meant less SE. I usually am down for about 5 days before I feel energized again and sleepiness wearing off. This time I stayed hydrated and got electrolyte drinks (trader joes water and designs for healthy synergy mix) and felt better after just two days of being down. The nausea is the worst though. I too took my meds and they weren't enough, so went in for infusion of zofran. Had a question, has anyone developed a rash on their hand from chemo? It isn't dry skin because I tried lotion and Vaseline. This is like a somewhat itchy, warm to the touch rash.

  • TortyLass
    TortyLass Member Posts: 43
    edited April 2015

    Nina, did you receive chemo through a vein in your hand? On my first TC infusion the Taxotere blew my vein and leaked into my hand. On day6 after the infusion (and leak) a rash appeared. It took a few weeks to heal up

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited April 2015

    I have this acne/individual rash that develops after hercepton given the second time during the 3 week time frame. The rash hurts in some areas and itches in others? I am going to ask dr specific if this could be reaction to one of the drugs? The hercepton, or my own body reacting to ??? I have tried Vaseline, I have tried cortisone, moisturizers to help, but nothing. It did fade probably the day before me 2nd chemo infusion. And I am definitely hydrating so much more to lessen the side effects.

  • MaryJC
    MaryJC Member Posts: 350
    edited April 2015

    that is def a reaction to one of the drugs. I have one too but not a rash. It looks like a bruise or a burn. Doesn't hurt but not cute. Still not getting a port tho. I just don't want to. Skin is an organ an will heal. I'm treating the area preemptively hoping it doesn't happen. Thing is- if it's a chemo reaction then temporary. But if to Herceptin then yikes! A year more to go. MAY consider port then. At least worst of treatment would be done.

    Do they give you any Benadryl in your pre meds?

    I got Adivan as a premed bec my BP was so high. Also it helps make the anti nausea drugs more effective. Said they used to do it stabsard- even with pediatric patents. Well I was just as high as my BP! It did mellow me out. Had a nice nap when I got home. But after nap felt groggy and high- no mas, drank 32oz of water n flushed it OUTTA my system. They gave me an Rx for it. I'll be very conservative with it!

  • Nina2015
    Nina2015 Member Posts: 16
    edited April 2015

    I have a port, so it is odd that I'm getting it on my hand. I tried Vaseline and moisturizer, but nothing is working. I'm going to ask the nurse today when I go for my cbc. It deff has to be a reaction to the chemo or herceptin, just hoping there is a cream they can give to make it stop itching. It itches then gets a little warm. It looks like bruising or burnt almost. The other hand is completely fine...as if I wasn't a freak already :/ lol

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited April 2015

    they are telling me the rash is definitely from the chemo, which is what I thought. I have use cortisone, but I like the idea of the benedryl for maybe the itching....

  • SugarCakes
    SugarCakes Member Posts: 353
    edited April 2015

    I have gotten benedryl via IV with each of my infusions. No rashes; just bruising or whatever from Taxotere getting outside of my veins during the first infusion. Good luck withthe benedryl.

  • Nina2015
    Nina2015 Member Posts: 16
    edited April 2015

    yepp, so it's a rash from perjeta. I'm on steroids for 6 days and using the benadryl cream. They said the steroids can be bad on the stomach, anyone taken them?

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