Spring 2015 Radiation Sisters
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Hello!
I have 16 (of 28) radiation treatments left. My skin is slightly itchy and maybe a little pink, but not much. I am keeping up with my hydrocortisone cream every evening and Vanicream and corn starch throughout the day--lots and lots of corn starch! Next week I'll hit the 1/2 point and start the countdown!
It is grueling going in every day, but I am trying to make the best of it by getting to know other ladies in the waiting room. I have met many different women from many different backgrounds and cultures, yet here we are all brought together by the same thing. I met a woman yesterday who has had thyroid cancer, colon cancer, and now breast cancer. She was full of wisdom. I just sat and listened.
Cassie, I love your idea of leaving a note for the woman distressed about treatment. It is the little things that bring us the most comfort. How thoughtful of you.
Have a great weekend (and 2 day break from the daily journey to rads)!
Amy
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mhenz--I feel like they downplay everything too. And there are sooooo many things that no one had any intentions of telling me. But I backed them into a corner and asked. My rads have affected my back, but I should clarify that it is only up high, above the range of my heart. They treated the lymph up by my clavicle and the rays go completely through for that. The burns back there are no more than the redness of a sunburn--except the three sores that won't heal, but those have not been getting worse either. I worry about my heart too. Jean is right about trusting that they know how to keep you safe as is possible. I don't trust that they are telling me everything, but I do note how careful they are in administering the treatment. They have to be. They know that our lives are in their hands. I think most of them take that part of things very seriously. I'm sorry if I have made you feel extra worry. This is a scary journey for all of us, but together we can make it through.
jean--Thanks for the uplifting words. You are a good beacon of hope and a compassionate giver. I hope that we are able to give you as much as you give us. If I could, I would give you a great big hug.
shelley--Hurray for two weeks done!
This is a quote from a leader in my church: "The One who had power to calm the elements of earth has power to calm our souls, to give us refuge from the storm: "Peace, be still." " --Robert D Hale I hope no one minds if I share that. It's part of what helped me through the week.
I get to go to my mom's today and watch a special church broadcast. There will be spiritual speakers and wonderful music. I always come away with more peace in my soul after these things. I hope everyone is getting some much needed weekend rest.
(FYI--You will all have a good laugh, but I learned that you shouldn't use tape to keep a medicated pad in place!! I learned the hard way. I thought I was the only stupid person to try this but I found a gal in another thread who made the same mistake, so I'm admitting my idiocy here in case it saves someone from the pain I'm now experiencing. I have three places where the skin was ripped off along with the tape. It's OK, laugh! I'm laughing at myself...and crying while I laugh. LOL, sniff, LOL Ouch)
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Because of y'all I became a little concerned about my heart since I am a left sider too. So I asked the doctor about it, and he promptly signed on to his computer and pulled up the pictures that showed my insides and the tracks of the radiation. It was kind of fascinating, but it also clearly shows where my heart is in relation to where the radiation goes. He assured me that he took great pains to avoid any vital organs, but there might possibly be some lung involvement. The lines on the picture showed where it cut across the very top edge of the left lung. I was very reassured that my heart is not going to be affected by this.
So, ask the doctor if you're concerned about this stuff. My RO is very gregarious and very forthcoming about patient education, he really seems to enjoy explaining this stuff. I know all doctors are not that way, some seem to want you to defer to their superior knowledge, but it's also their job to address our concerns.
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Hi everyone. Next week i will be done also, four more to go. I am doing my boost and i am feeling well. The rest of my breast is starting to heal it is also my left side. I to was very worried about my heart and other major organs. The Doctor assured me that my heart was not being touched. I had thought of getting a second opinion. Being worried was taking over my life. I finally realized that yes it was my option to have a second opinion and yes i could go somewhere else but the one thing i couldn't do was heal myself. So i decided to stay where i was in the first place. Of course i had no other reason other than fear to leave that place. All my questions had been answered the staff is very attentive to the work they do. I am glad i made the decision to stay.
Mombie : that is a wonderful post. We are all in this together and slowly one by one we will cross the finish line.
to those ladies who are starting, i have found lots of information just reading these post. Get your second opinions if you feel uncomfortable with the first. Ask question here. Someone will always answer. If you feel like yelling crying etc,, its all ok to do. big hugs to all. remember there is a finish line. and always speak out.
Thank you to all the active member that take part in posting. Most of all thanks to those who have finished their treatment and still come on to give us the courage and help we need to continue. Hugs to all.
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Mommie and others... I love the saying by Dolly Parton in her rich southern drawl.... "Laughin' thru the tears is my favorite emotion." So go ahead dear sister-warriors. Laugh, cry, feel it all. It means we are still alive! Love, Jean
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Mombie! After my lumpectomy, I did the same thing with medical tape. My drain was leaking around the point of insertion and getting on my clothes, and I used medical tape to attach some padding to that area. Big mistake! My skin is still red from where I ripped off that tape.
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sybilskelton--Smart gal. Thanks for sharing that. I would like to see my images, just out of curiosity. I might ask my RO. Great idea. I'm curious about my boosts anyway.
jesika--Glad your boosts are going well. I'm glad I have you and others here to finish with.
Since we are all Sisters, I want to share a little poem I wrote if you don't mind. I am humbled by the beautiful souls I am getting to know in this thread.
My Sister, My Friend
My sister walks with me
Her hand in my hand.
As daughters of God
Together we stand.
She's older, she's younger
She's tall, medium, small.
Wherever she is
I hear her sweet call.
She's wise and she's gentle
She's thoughtful and kind.
Just like me, I can see
It's by God she's designed.
In heart, mind, and purpose
We're a perfect blend.
She's my heavenly kin
My sister, my friend.
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sybilskelton...thank you for that. I am definitely going to ask to see the images. Reassurance is not to much to ask. I realize they do this for a living but It's new to me. Mombiezombie I love that saying. Jean ...def appreciate your words.
It will be great when we all finish and can enjoy our summer. Prayers for you all
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Mombie--I love your poem!
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My sim is Wednesday. We're doing this prone, and I'm left side.
Is anyone else prone? (face down) I'm wondering how much breathing will affect positioning. Hard to hold still when you're moving your chest and stomach to breathe??
Also my skin, all the way to the nipple, is still extremely sensitive from the lumpectomy/SNB (one scar because they were so close). Is radiation the same kind of raw feeling or will it add a whole new layer of "omg don't touch" to this?
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Aeon--Welcome. I like your username. There are some gals who are prone here. They can give you better advice. But I will say that the prone position is supposed to be safer because of the breathing. If you lay on your back, like me, then you get to hold your breath for 20 seconds, four times or more. So you should be better off in this position, with regards to breathing and safety. As for pain. I was sore after lumpectomy too. I was given time to heal some more after my simulation--about 10 days. You may want to ask about that. Everyone is different in regards to pain and skin reaction. My nipple became very sensitive, "don't touch me", fairly early. It's manageable, but annoying. I did fine until my boost sessions. Now I hurt enough to take hydrocodone. There are only five boosts and I have four left. I'm going to get through it. Almost there. Yay!
You can do this dear. It's going to be OK. We all stand ready to support you and cheer you along to the finish line. Learn from everyone, but try not to panic about anything based on individual experiences shared here. Your body may react better than some. Good luck.
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Mombie thanks for the beautiful poem.
I am just hanging out getting good info from you ladies while I wait the 2 weeks for my start date.
Cherice
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Glad you liked it Cherice. Enjoy your two weeks. I'm done soon, but I'll be sure to stick around and help cheer you to the finish line.
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I would like to join this thread please! Starting my 30 sessions today. I am so nervous! I feel like I can deal with the skin issues but when I read about heart pain/issues it really scares me. Mine is on my right side, not too deep pretty near the nipple. I did not have any lymph node involvement. Does everyone get the same amount of rad? I forgot to ask him this. I know I am committed to finishing this but six weeks...such a long stretch. Will I be able to keep up at least a light exercise schedule of walking, light weights etc? Is this too much to expect of myself? I tend to push too hard I'm afraid...:)
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cbaird, I think it's different for everyone. I know how hard the "not knowing" can be - sometimes I think that's one of the hardest parts of all this, for me. I have 7 weeks total of rads, and I've been able to exercise (walk) throughout. Some days are better than others. Get clearance for what you can and can't do on your rads side as far as weights. If your right-sided, then your heart won't be an issue as far as I understand things. Even if your left-sided, they're getting very good now at keeping your heart safe.
3 days left for me and then I am done! Feels like forever since I started. I think my sim was on Feb. 4th, or somewhere in there, and then I started rads on Feb. 12th.
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CassieCat thanks for your reply! Glad to know I can still at least walk, my dogs will be happy too! I did ask my onco about light weights, he said that is fine as long as I take it easy and listen to my body, I am pretty good about that. Hope to keep up the yoga too. I am still having some muscle tightness from the surgery, I had to have a seroma drained twice under my arm and it really played hell with my posture. Trying to get it back! Yes the not knowing is super hard and I guess that is my life long thing to learn to deal with at this point:)
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hello everyone. Thought I would start reading this thread as my first appt. With my RO is 4/8. Just home recovering from BMX and decided to use my down time to learn all I can about this next step in my journey. I so appreciate all the tips and shared experiences evryone has been willing to share. It is always more helpful,than what the doctors and nurses tell us. Wishing everyone experiences minimal SE. Hugs, Candy
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Enjoy your two weeks, Cherice, and good luck with your treatment.
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thanks, for the info, I will ask for that cream today.Nice to have support and authentic empathy!
I was stunned to be in the waiting room last week reading the same great PEOle magazine with one other person, a gentlemen with labored breathing. the gist of the conversation, was maybe you need to go to hospice. Probably a conversation, the nurse could of waited 3-4 minutes to have when I went in the microwave so as to preserve the gentleman's privacy. Is that not common sense?
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Candy, one piece of advice is to do the stretching and range of motion exercises daily. It will make rads more comfortable for you. The initial scan/sim and first treatments are longer, and you will probably need to be able to have your arm(s) above your head. I thought I was doing well with my ROM but found out I needed to stretch more diligently after my CT scan.
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cassiecat..... Thank you for the tip. That has been a concern of mine. In fact just a few minutes before reading your post I told my hubby that I needed to stretch more as I felt very stiff. It hasn't quite been 2 weeks post surgery so I am trying to take things slow. Still trying to adjust to my 'look" which hasn't been easy. But I want to do all I can to get as back to "normal" as possible once I am done with rads. Any specific motions you would recommend? My BS mentioned walking my arms up a wall and also stretching them out to my side and pulling back as far as possible. Overhead is still hard but I try. Some days it is hard to believe that I have been on this journey for 6 months already....... But it helps to connect and share with other women who are also in this fight with me - Candy
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My BS gave me a pamphlet that was basically what is on this page. I also had a PT come by the week after surgery and she showed me some similar stretches.
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Aeon.... I am prone....and don't have to hold my breath at all. The most uncomfortable part for me is lying your rib cage on the edge of the opening your breast hangs through. SIM and 1st session were the toughest in this position as each was was over an hour of "don't move". Very stiff TO MOVE once you've had to lay like that, but I'm happy to have this option. Lying face down also keeps me from having to watch that zapper coming so close to your body. Plus having the techs position me daily is a mini-massage lining up the back tattoos. Once the anxiety lessens, and the sessions go faster it's better. Stretching helps a lot . I just started my 2nd week. Using Aquaphor immediately after rads, and before bed time. Wearing cotton cami's instead of a bra. No SEs yet.....
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ccbaird--Welcome.
Cassie is right, everyone is effected differently. If it helps, I too am down to three days. I have been super tired, and I won't lie, pained too. But I have managed to keep up nearly all of my accustomed activities right to the last.
NY2--Welcome to you as well.
Cassie is right about that stretching. Critical. Are they having you see a lymphadema therapist? This is standard at my treatment center, whether you have lymphedema or not. My therapist gave me massage and exercises that have saved me as I go through rads. She found ropes of scar tissue that I didn't know were there and massaged them out of existence. She will meet with me again after I'm done so that she can assess any further damage I may have sustained.
I'll repeat something I mentioned to another newby--Use the comments and experiences here to learn and as an avenue for questions to ask your doctor, but don't allow our personal experiences to scare you or worry you prematurely. Good luck as you begin. This is a caring, loving group. I hope you can feel our support, concern and encouragement more than anything else.
Kathy--That does seem like an overstep for that nurse to conduct business like that in the waiting room. Not good for you or anyone there. I have experienced a lot of things like that in our waiting room too--and even worse in our chemo center. I know the stool and urination habits of everyone there. Seems wrong. I hope that talk of hospice didn't make you feel personal worries. I feel truly sorry for the man.
For those of you who are wanting to keep wearing bras: I managed to successfully wear an underwire bra with no damage until last Thursday. Things have changed and I am in loose camis and dealing with a lot of broken skin. It changed over night almost. My idiot tape incident is only part of the problem now. I'm glad I made it that far though. Only three days left!!!
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Hi All! Tomorrow is my big day. The beginning of rads. Since chemo kicked my butt in every direction, I am hoping that I get a break on the radiation side effects. Still recouping from Taxol fatigue and bone/feet pain. Good luck to all finishing, in the middle and just starting.
Janine
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Mommie, you are almost done! Woohoo! How many treatments did you have before it began to get difficult? Love, Jean
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Hi everyone. I just had my first treatment today lying in the prone position. The positioning went really quick this time, and it was over in about 5 minutes. I didn't feel anxious walking in, but really had to control my breathing once I was positioned. I met with the RO after and she went through all the pictures taken at my last appointment. She assured me that the heart won't receive any radiation while lying in this position. But, it really hit me when I saw the large area of red on the screen. I asked the size of the area, and it is 8.5cm by 5.5cm. She told me that I will be lying on my back for the boosts. She mentioned how large the tumor bed is and said that my breast will probably become hard. Has that happened to anyone else? About 5 minutes after the appointment I felt some burning and it began itching during the day. I am really fair skinned and I wonder if I will burn quickly because I am having the accelerated protocol. Is there anyone here getting the "Canadian Protocol"? Did you burn quickly? -
Jean--I had a funny roller coaster as far as fatigue went. I've had tissue pain slowly increasing from day one--especially tumor area and my nipple. I was immediately tired after two days and the second week I started falling asleep in the waiting room! But then I saw the Naturopath. I took the vitamins he wanted and changed my Q10--this made my energy go up and up for a while. I would say around week four the fatigue caught up with me again. Week five I started needing a driver. Near the end of week five my skin started really breaking down and I've been living on hydrocodone and I can't drive anywhere. I can still do laundry and take care of family if I rest in between. Today is the first time I've been forced to take a nap. I'm just plain tired and run down. Yesterday I was airing out my skin and my arm stuck to one of the open wounds. When I moved, the whole thing ripped open again. So now it's bleeding a lot. They prescribed Silvadene. I am using antibiotic cream by day and going to do the Silvadene by night. I continue to use my homemade cream on the unbroken skin. I'm sensitive enough that I don't want to be touched AT ALL. But as scary as that sounds, I've endured worse discomfort than this. This is still manageable.
How are you doing Jean?
Janiner--Good luck as you begin. Now you can start running to the finish line.
Rekidal--I'm glad today went smoother for you. My breast has not hardened and I'm almost done. But I've heard that hardening can happen and I think I read somewhere that the hardening can still come later. So I don't know if I'm out of the woods on that yet.
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Wow, I thought I was imagining things at first. I started feeling some hardening just around my lumpectomy scar, which is just beside the nipple. Nobody warned me that would happen, so I'm glad to see here that it is not unusual.
In my previous experience with radiation therapy years ago I learned that the side effects don't go away quickly, in fact they continue to accumulate and then subside slowly. It's kind of like climbing a mountain, going down isn't always quick or easy, but you'll get to the bottom eventually.
I'm finding that same process with recovery from the chemo, especially the Taxol. I didn't experience the worst side effects until near the end, and then it continued to get worse afterwards. Fortunately, the doctor did warn me that this would be the case. I'm 2 months out and still dealing with numb toes and bladder and bowel problems. Ah, neuropathy. I'm hoping it eventually resolves, but I know it often does not.
Onward one day at a time I guess.
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Mommie, I am ok so far. Just a bit of stinging under my arm which could still be from the. lymph node surgery in February. No redness yet. I'm slathering on Aquaphor 2-3 times a day and am in my second of six weeks. Been bra less almost from the start. Wearing soft t shirts and a scarf and sweater or jacket for modesty. Last week is to be boosts. I'm still driving myself and hoping I can continue. Sybil, I too got worse when taxol was over. Bad neuropathy with pretty numb feet but no pain, thank God. Also lost brows and lashes that are now growing back and nail lifting on fingers and toes. My worst is terrible joint pain in hips and upper legs. Could be taxol related, the Femara, degenerative disease or a combination of all. Hope the neuropathy and joint pain goes away eventually. Love, Jean
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