April 2015 Chemo Crew... Starting in April? Please join us!
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Littleblueflowers I think our chemos are different based on how agrressive the Oncologist needs them to be. It might have to do with the size of the tumor and if there was any lymph nodes involved. I know AC+T was presented to me, but he felt in my case TC was the better choice. Oh I got my BRCA results and I am negative
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LittleBlue....my CT scan ended up showing a bone island in my left clavicle so they sent me for a bone scan. The bone scan was normal and it appears that I had an old clavicle injury from a car accident back in 2008. The diagnostic tests were the scariest part for me but all ended up being ok and I'm glad now that I had them.
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Sprite - I fear the diagnostic tests too. I feel like this BC diagnosis was such a surprise/shock that I've started thinking, "what other cancer could be lurking and I don't even know" :-( I dragged my feet on getting a colonscopy, and now I'm wondering if I have cancer every time I take a sh*t. I scheduled one for July, but I don't know if I'll even be able to have one. Thanks for sharing that about your clavicle - I broke mine when I was ~14, and I know I still have a bump there, so I'll be sure to let them know before they order a bone scan just for that!
Allicat - I find it very interesting how each of us have so different diagnosis, but end up with chemo. I'm assuming it's your Oncotype score that is driving the chemo? I don't think they have done an oncotype for me. I have a positive lymph node, though, and I read that it's not necessary if you have +node (I guess because they already know they are going to suggest chemo?). If my doctors gave me and option of a less brutal chemotherapy regime, I would take it in a heartbeat, especially if I had your stats - small tumor (caught early - grade 1), no node involvement, hormone receptor +, etc.
Karen - I have decided I am going to take a trip to Greece when this is done. I have always wanted to go, and so I'm going to do it. The only thing is that it might not be until next year. It's a May - October type trip (I want to visit the islands), and I'm not sure if I'll be able to fit it in for the fall when (I hope) I'll be through most of this. My bf and husbands are going in September for a weekend in Newport, RI, and that would probably be the only time to fit it in, but that's ok, if I have it planned for the following year, that will be my goal (and then I can save up more spending $). I also have a fitness goal - I have been a very on again/off again fitness person - losing 50#, then gaining it back. In fact, I blame my most recent gain for the BC. I can only work out in the morning before work, so I start getting up at 5 AM and working out, but something always derails me, and I end up skipping it. My alarm still goes off, but I just hit the snooze. I successfully did it for over a year at a time at points in my life, but I think that's why I can't do it now - I know how grueling it is.
I hope everyone who is starting next week has a good weekend. DH and I are going away tonight for 2 nights - I need a break - would like to be going south, but we are going north, but to the ocean. It will be a nice break before my life is filled with doctor's appointments and SE.
Last night I had my hair cut short. I had my regularly scheduled appointment with my hair stylist, Sarah. I have been seeing her for 9 years now, and it was sad when I left. I made another appointment, like I always do, for 6 weeks, but I told her that I wasn't sure if I'd need to go. I was kind of hoping that she'd offer to buzz or shave me, but I understand that she probably didn't want to go there - I can't blame her. I did tear up thinking that it could be 6 months or more before I see her again.
here are my before and after pictures:
In the second photo I'm wearing the earrings that my sister sent me - they are amethyst for "positivity". The hair actually looks better (I think) in person than these photos - at least I feel like it looks much better when I look in the mirror :-) My youngest daughter (9) didn't like it, and my middle (13) laughed when she saw me. It definitely made me know I had made the right choice in getting them all used to this first before I have no hair.
TGIF ladies.
-Lynne
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Hi All!
KBee and Nurse Juls, great to see you!!!
My first round of AC is Thursday April 2...it is only Saturday and now with the port in, each passing day I feel a bit more anxious...I think it is just the vast amount of unknown. Since it affects us all so differently...needless to say with Chemo starting on Thursday. DH will be on Easter duty with the family! I have all of the basket goodies, the eggs for the hunt, and the ham all ready to go. My family will make tamales next weekend as well- so I am hoping things are as normal as can be given the circumstances.
Port went in on Thursday - it was really sore Friday. It is still sore today but not as bad...it just feels a bit strange! I have decided to name it Eeyore...lol!
I am taking a move with me on Thursday for my first infusion - something happy...like the Sound of Music or Mary Poppins! Lets just hope I don't get too anxious before then!
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Hi everyone. I would like to join you on this board. My first chemo will be April 2nd. This is my second go round with breast cancer. The first time being 13 years ago in my right breast, this time my left breast gets a turn... I had my port placement a week ago on Thusday, and yesterday I had a muga scan. I'm doing neoadjuvant chemo, so my surgery will come after. I'm getting TCHP for 6 rounds each 3 weeks apart and then the Herceptin alone will also be given to me on two in between weeks. So chemo every week. Aaarghh.... Looking forward to getting acquainted and having a place to share/vent with people who are going through it too.
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Allicat, I did TC last time. I was no walk in the park, but it was doable.
Supernanny, I will have to think of a name for my port. I will do that after it's placed.
Maybe we need a name for our April crew.... team name???!!! Ideas????
Lynne, you look great in both pictures. Glad you are able to get away. I am actually away this weeekend too. I am at my daughters' regional swim meet in Minnesota.
Sprite, Glad the bone scan was normal!
I hope everyone is having a relaxing weekend
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hi everyone... been a rough week. port on tuesday... was supposed to have biopsy's, ct and bone scans thursday, but was in so much pain from port had to be given oxicodone for pain and had a few tests done, have bone scan and needle lymph node biopsy this up coming tuesday and start chemo thursday. i am still sore from the port but its getting better. my ct and muga scans were good. wont be surprised if cancer cells are in lymph nodes since they dont look good. i also had genetic tests done and they are all normal! i am happy that my doc didnt care about getting the tests done.. he wanted to make sure i was ok and address the pain before moving forward and the hospital was able to move things around to get the tests done.
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Hi ankledolphin, sorry you're having a tough time of it. Hope things are better for you by chemo day. Are you getting herceptin as well as carbo and taxol? Looks like you start one day before me. Not looking forward to it, but glad after all the wait that I'm finally getting started. Try to relax a bit this weekend and feel better.
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Hi ladies, I have kind of an embarrassing question for you all. I'm scheduled for a CT scan on Monday, and I think my period is going to start by then. Is that going to interfere with the scan? TMI I'm sure. I just didn't think of it when I could ask my onc nurse...thanks so much!
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Littleblue I don't think it would interfere. I was on my period when I had my lumpectomy and that was surgery
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Thank you rockerwife! So many new things to think of...ugh. Just insult to injury. I'm so greatful for everyone here!
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I am a newly Diagnosed and I started Chemo the 28th of February and 1/2 way through. Still new at this. Scared at times but very Hopeful at other times. Have 2 little kids still living at home and will be fighting hard to do all I need to do. I am a 20 year nurse that has experience in treating patients with Cancer but "BOY" is it different when it is yourself that is the patient. I am not a nurse now but more a scared patient. I am so glad that you are so optimistic. I hear that is the greatest tool you have, Is a positive mind..
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I agree that a positive state of mind is very important. A friend who went through chemo and is now cancer free for 8 years says do whatever you can to take as much control over what you can since so much of it is out of your control. She shaved her head as soon as she started losing her hair, and suggested I do the same.
A few posts ago I said that my MO gave me a choice of which chemo combo to use TC (which he said was "brutal" every 3 wks x4) or CMF (less brutal, keep your hair, every 3 wks x6). I was leaning towards CMF but in doing research I found a study that showed long-term cognitive issues from CMF from women who had it 20 years ago. http://www.cancer.net/new-study-shows-breast-cance...
And the TC offers an extra percentage point against recurrence than the CMF, so I'm thinking I'm going to go with TC. I want to know that I've done all that I can to prevent recurrence.... so taking the "tougher" chemo, but also plan to continue eating clean, exercising, etc long term (as much as I can during chemo...)
KBee, thanks for letting me know you felt TC was tough but doable! Did you need someone in your home to help you? I'm separated from my husband so living alone... not sure how much help I'm going to need...
Lynne, your hair looks great! Good idea to get your kids used to seeing you with less hair now.
My kids are out of the house, DD19 (well she'll be 20 in a week, her bday is 4/4) and my son is 23. They are both away at college but will both be in for Easter for the first time since Christmas and the last time together until Thanksgiving. I'm thinking we're going to get have to get some family pictures before my hair falls out!
In fact my son graduates May 15 from grad school. If the schedule holds as it appears now, I'll be in between Chemo 2 & 3 for his graduation.... right when it seems the hair comes out in clumps. My aunt is a hairdresser so she is advising me on hair issues. She said I should cut my hair short soon, it's thick and shoulder length now.
Anyway, Rockerwife looks like I'll be a few days behind you but we'll both be doing TC. I get my port on April 8 and my first chemo date is April 10.
Ankledolphin: Sorry you're having a rough time with the port. I'm kind of scared about that TBH, but alas I have horrible veins. Where is your port? My MO says he wants to put it in my arm...
Anyway, glad to have a decision made on the chemo option and just ready to get started to get it over.... And so glad to be part of this group!
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Hi April Ladies, I just wanted to drop in and wish you all well! I finished AC/T on 11/25, and you can do this, I did. I hope you have your chemo bags ready to go, and are all set. If you have any questions I may be able to answer, just ask. Nobody here walks alone ever, and I am waiting at the finish line for you to meet me.
Make sure you hydrate before chemo starts, it helps alot. I still drink about 4+ bottles of water a day. Stock the fridge for the days after chemo. Plan for easy small snacks, it does help to eat. Popsicles, Jell-O, cottage cheese, frozen grapes, juice, yogurt, fresh fruit, and mac and cheese helped me keep the nausea away. I always took the meds, it really helps to keep on schedule as needed. It is very difficult to keep nausea away if you do not take the meds. Brach's lemon drops help with dry mouth, Biotene mouthwash helps as well. Lip gloss and body lotion, cuticle oil, and Tums. Good to have some OTC for relief when you need them.
I used baby shampoo on my head to keep my scalp clean. But the good news - my hair started to grow after the first Taxol infusion after AC. I was so happy to see that, and Biotin helps it grow. And your hair will come back as well. I will probably get a trim this week.
So for all of the side effects, there are plenty of tricks to get ahead of them. I always took plenty of small snacks and bottled water for infusion day and I really felt better with something in my stomach. Seriously nausea was my big fear. I drank water, ate a lot of small meals and snacks, and never ever had to vomit. Maybe TMI, but it is a huge fear for more ladies than me only. But find a way to keep it at bay, and positive thinking helps.
Good Luck Ladies, you got this! And with Easter soon here, take all the pictures of friends and family. You will still have your hair, and next Easter you will have it all back!
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Welcome LK121212,
Sorry you found yourself here but we're really glad you found us.
We don't have advice but we're here to let you know that you're not alone and that you have the support and compassion of this community as you progress through your treatment and beyond.
Sending gentle hugs to you from us all,
The moderators.
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Thank You Moderators, So nice to hear others understand, Sometimes I feel so alone going through this. Maybe it is because I told my kids it is all going to be O.K and put on a strong attitude most of the times. But in reality inside I am really scared and I will be honest I hate Chemo and everything about this Cancer. I want to have a positive mind set about all of this but working at Moffitt Cancer Cnt for 5 years I think does not help. I guess it is not good to know so much. I know there are people that can beat this and I am determined to be one, I just get kicked pretty hard with the Chemo and feel like it takes 2 weeks to get back up and then I get kicked hard again with Chemo every 3 weeks Taxol/Cyto. This Tuesday will be my 3rd and not looking forward to it at all. Maybe it is just me? I think I am going in with such anxiety that it affects me terribly. I hope I could change this mind controlling illness. How do you do it??
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LK: I can relate to some extent.
I had my biopsy the Monday before Christmas. I got the call that I had IDC the day after Christmas, a Friday. Saw the BS that Monday who said no chemo, just lumpectomy and radiation. It was small. All good.
So like you, I put the brave face on for my two kids (DS24 & DD20) away at college and husband. "It's small, it's okay, we got it early. No big deal." My husband went to play golf the day I found out. He said, "You okay?" And I said, "Yes. fine. go." Sigh...
Well, now that the lumpectomy is over and I've seen oncologists, and now I'm facing chemo and have real concerns about radiation since tumor was on left side and implications to heart and lungs, and have been discussing recurrence "percentages"..... Um, YES, IT IS A BIG DEAL!
My marriage was in trouble for years and I ignored and repressed anger. Before I knew mammo had issues, I found a good job, first one out of the home for years. After cancer diagnosis, and being told "just radiation" I separated from my husband so I could focus on healing. Well, job is going to be demanding and difficult to maintain during treatment, they will expect me to be 100%. And I thought, oh, "no big deal. I can do this."
Well it is a big deal.
I realized that the job/company will go on, but I AM THE ONLY ONE who is responsible for my health care. I should NOT MINIMIZE the seriousness of this to appease anyone: my kids, husband, boss.
So I'm going to try to control this by focusing on me. I have savings and will just live off that for the next several months. I want to try meditation, yoga, walking, etc. and not feel guilty by taking off time to do everything I need to do to LIVE!!
So, LK have you tried any relaxation things such as meditation, yoga, massage, etc.? Or is the chemo just too debilitating?? Since you've worked at a cancer center, are you aware of services offered for patients that could help like counseling, support groups, etc?
Good news is you have two sessions behind you! How many do you have left?
Take care! I'm so glad I found this forum and this April group!
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I did Neulasta on my first round and the bone pain was hard, But that is not the IMPORTANT part , what I noticed was that the Neulasta gives a false outlook of what the Chemo is doing to you by raising your WBC automatically and then you are not able to see if the dose of the Chemo is to high. The reason I tell you this is because, I decided to do the daily Neupogen on the 2nd dose and I am glad I did. On the 2nd dose the Doctor was able to see that the dose was extremely high by the fact that I became Neutropenic and my labs were so low that the protocol calls for a decrease in the dose by 20% if this happens. So what does that tell me?? It says that the dose is a standard formula and what it is doing to your body may be different from what it does to another. So I am tolerating the decreased dose much better and went back to Neulesta now that I know what the true affect of the Chemo is on my body.. Just FYI I don't know why this is not a standard to first see how the Chemo affect each individual before doing the Neulesta.
"Hope this helps everyone" We have to be proactive and not just settle for what s told to us..
LK
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I am happy for you that you took control of your life and you are looking at what is best for you. It is hard to feel like I have any control at all. I will be honest the Chemo has been hard on me because I have never taken any meds. I ate healthy mostly vegetarian and fish, and I exercised 3 x week for the past year. So the Chemo is hitting me and I just haven't been able to get back up long enough to do exercise or Yoga. I have not attended any support groups because I am the type that does not show my emotions publicly. I feel like I need to be strong and just cry out when I am alone and not affect my children. My husband sees that I am strong on the outside, and when he ask, Are you O.K? I just cry and walk away. I was dx. IDC on 10/29, Double Mastectomy surgery 12/12 and Chemo started Feb, Have you started Chemo yet?
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I will give a little FYI on First time Chemo--I did Neulasta the day after Chemo on my first round and the bone pain was hard, But that is not the IMPORTANT part , what I noticed was that the Neulasta gives a false outlook of what the Chemo is doing to you by raising your WBC automatically and then you are not able to see if the dose of the Chemo is to high. The reason I tell you this is because, I decided to do the daily Neupogen on the 2nd dose and I am glad I did. On the 2nd dose the Doctor was able to see that the dose was extremely high by the fact that I became Neutropenic and my labs were so low that the protocol calls for a decrease in the dose by 20% if this happens. So what does that tell me?? It says that the dose is a standard formula and what it is doing to your body may be different from what it does to another. So I am tolerating the decreased dose much better and went back to Neulesta now that I know what the true affect of the Chemo is on my body.. Just FYI I don't know why this is not a standard to first see how the Chemo affect each individual before doing the Neulesta.
"Hope this helps everyone" We have to be proactive and not just settle for what s told to us..
LK
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I did Neulasta on my first round and the bone pain was hard, But that is not the IMPORTANT part , what I noticed was that the Neulasta gives a false outlook of what the Chemo is doing to you by raising your WBC automatically and then you are not able to see if the dose of the Chemo is to high. The reason I tell you this is because, I decided to do the daily Neupogen on the 2nd dose and I am glad I did. On the 2nd dose the Doctor was able to see that the dose was extremely high by the fact that I became Neutropenic and my labs were so low that the protocol calls for a decrease in the dose by 20% if this happens. So what does that tell me?? It says that the dose is a standard formula and what it is doing to your body may be different from what it does to another. So I am tolerating the decreased dose much better and went back to Neulesta now that I know what the true affect of the Chemo is on my body.. Just FYI I don't know why this is not a standard to first see how the Chemo affect each individual before doing the Neulesta.
"Hope this helps everyone" We have to be proactive and not just settle for what s told to us..
LK
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No, just met with MO Thursday and got surprising results of Oncotype: 19.
When I first met with him a month ago (few weeks after lumpectomy he said he would be "SHOCKED" if oncotype was anything but low.) MO said since score was intermediate range, chemo was up to me and offered TC and CMF. But he said TC would reduce recurrence by 3%. I had lumpectomy and recurrence with nothing else is 15%. (He said radiation does not impact recurrence at all.... um so why do it?) Taking arimidex for 10 years would drop recurrence by another 4% points so lumpectomy+chemo+arimidex for 10 years = 8% recurrence. That is better than 15% to me! I want to throw everything at it: typical treatments plus eating clean, exercising, losing more weight (lost 40 lbs since last summer and I know fat contributed to estrogen ), stress reduction, etc.
So I need to get back with him this week, but he has me tentatively scheduled to get port Wednesday after Easter, April 8 and first chemo Friday April 10. He said it was better to get on schedule while I decided than to try to work in.
Also, he said I would need to start chemo by end of April since lumpectomy was Feb 12. I've tried to google why this is so but couldn't find anything. Anybody know the reason for timing on this? Don't people get chemo months after surgery ??
Anyway, I've been researching on the web and talking to people that I know who have had chemo. Bottom line is I want to know that I've done all that I can to fight it. It may still come "back" or I may get another tumor somewhere else, but if that happens I'll know I did all that I could.
At least that's what I'm telling myself now....
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All I can tell you is that I know my Oncologist for past 14 years when I worked with him, and I ask him why so much Cancer. He said something that he just can't give an answer to, Environmental, chemicals in food ??? no one knows. Did you see my post on Chemo above?? And yes it is important that you start Chemo shortly after surgery when the best chance to get a cancer left behind.
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Hi Ankledolphin, The pain should subside soon, just make sure you move your arms as much as possible. The more you move the quicker it heals. I know it is normal to want to protect it and not move it but I healed in 3 days and you are on your way to recovery soon.
Hang in there,
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FYI for first time Chemo, I did Neulasta on my first round and the bone pain was hard, But that is not the IMPORTANT part , what I noticed was that the Neulasta gives a false outlook of what the Chemo is doing to you by raising your WBC automatically and then you are not able to see if the dose of the Chemo is to high. The reason I tell you this is because, I decided to do the daily Neupogen on the 2nd dose and I am glad I did. On the 2nd dose the Doctor was able to see that the dose was extremely high by the fact that I became Neutropenic and my labs were so low that the protocol calls for a decrease in the dose by 20% if this happens. So what does that tell me?? It says that the dose is a standard formula and what it is doing to your body may be different from what it does to another. So I am tolerating the decreased dose much better and went back to Neulesta now that I know what the true affect of the Chemo is on my body.. Just FYI I don't know why this is not a standard to first see how the Chemo affect each individual before doing the Neulesta.
"Hope this helps everyone" We have to be proactive and not just settle for what s told to us..
LK
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Thanks for sharing LK. Since you are a few weeks ahead of most of us AND because of your background working at a cancer center, you could be a wonderful resource for all of newbies!
I sincerely appreciate the info. I've got to start a list of questions for my doc....I'll add taking these meds to the list.
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Hi super nanny, This is all new to me. I have taken care of many patients with Cancer but never thought it would be me taking care of me. I am on my 3rd dose out of 6 and still anxious everytime I know the next one is coming. I don't think this is something that you can just approach knowing that it will be the same. Each of my Chemo's have been different and I am always thinking that I can be prepared by staying ahead of the game. But for some reason mine has had a different outcome each time. It could be because like I posted earlier the Doctors automatically treat what they know will be happening, but what you need to know is that you are your own protector and you need to be an active part in this treatment. You need to speak out when things are not going smooth. I hope that all goes well for you and I hope you don't take anyones experience as your guide because we are all different in the way that this Chemo affects us. You sound very positive so I would believe that you have the greatest power to your advantage. Mind over matter and for me it is Faith. Stay positive your storm will be over soon.
I wish you well.
LK
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Hi Lk, Glad you joined us even tho' the circumstances stink! I know what you mean about putting on a brave face for your loved ones... I try to give them edited versions of how I'm feeling and don't mention my fear at all. So glad to have this place to come and really spill it if I need to. I know you'll all understand since we're doing this together. As I mentioned earlier, this is my second time after 13 years cancer-free. Much has changed, yet much has stayed the same.
Lovlilynn and StacyMc, I've had my port in for over a week now and I can sleep in any position I want - stomach, side, back. Sometimes I feel a little twinge up by my neck, but otherwise it doesn't bother me anymore. Lovlilynn, your short cut is very cute! I need a haircut too, but think I'm just going to ride it out until "shave-me-bald" day comes. DH will be on hand to help out.
KBee, I'm loving the idea to plan a post-tx trip! It gives me a dream for a happier time. My hubby and I are avid photograghers (hobby only) and love to photograph wildlife. Birds in particular since they are such a moving target challenge! Soooo....probably somewhere very "nature-y" would be good. Don't know where yet, but I'll definitely be thinking/dreaming about it and will tell you all when I figure it out!
Supernanny, Bringing a movie to chemo sounds like a great idea! I just learned my first chemo will last for 5 hours....maybe bring a book too!
Beachbum, thanks for the words of encouragement and all the great tips too!
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What's In Your Chemo Bag?
Hey everyone! I didn't have a chemo bag last time I did chemo, I just brought reading material and made do. Now I see all these wonderful suggestions of things to bring to chemo. Maybe we can help each other out by saying what we will bring and therefore have the Best Chemo Bags around!
So far, I'm bringing a movie( thanks to supernanny) my kindle, magazines, lip gloss, hand lotion,
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Hi sheshe, If you read the previous chemo threads there are a ton of suggestions for chemo bags. I used a cooler with strap, like a larger soft side lunch cooler. I got mine at Dick's Sporting Goods, and it worked great. It has a removable container and I could pack it and put it in the fridge. Then just grab and go. It had zip pockets and all of meds fit in there. One place for everything and I could take it to work with me.
I took plastic forks and spoons, yogurt, apples, pretzels, celery, mac and cheese, lip gloss, bottled water, iPhone and charger, hand cream, Lemon Drops for dry mouth, all my meds, reading material or Kindle or iPad if you have one. I always had to eat during the infusion to keep my stomach settled, and I just kept eating small snacks. I had nausea but I controlled it to keep eating.
Some Ladies knit or crochet, read, and some Ladies would work from a laptop. I always stayed busy to make the time fly. I was usually there about 5 hours. But you will make it work for you. Make sure you drink water starting 2 days before and just keep drinking forever! I still drink at least 4 bottles of water per day.
I took pictures, sent text updates to my friends, whatever it took. You will find that you will have many suggestions from everyone. You could always drop in to the previous threads from the other months and they will be happy to help. Nobody is ever alone here, 24/7!
Some Ladies have a shawl or small throw, it's up to you. But be very kind to yourself, its a wild ride. Take care, and let me know if I can do anything to help you. I finished AC/T 11.25. I wish you the best! Cheryl
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