Starting Chemo January 2015

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  • spookisgirl
    spookisgirl Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2015

    HI Ladies,

    Wanted to pop up quickly as I get ready for AC #4 tomorrow. I have been following all the threads but just out of it with fatigue and chemo brain leaving me not wanting to do much. Last round of AC! Then I start weekly taxol on April 17th.

    Still dancing, though some days I don't know how I am doing it. I will say I am eternally grateful I am still able to, I don't think I could get through this if I couldn't--it's a little bit of every day (more or less) where I can forget about chemo and cancer.

    Stay strong ladies!

    Jenn

  • PMR53
    PMR53 Member Posts: 452
    edited March 2015

    Thank you BeachBum and RVGal. You both are so supportive and I appreciate it so much. BeachBum you are right it will take awhile. Wish we all had a switch to flip! No more fatigue. No more SE. RVgal I have the same GI symptoms it never tastes right or feels right and everything tastes funny.

    Brandi so glad you had a good day and felt better!! It's your turn to start having an easier time!!

    It's almost April!

    Patty

  • jlstacey
    jlstacey Member Posts: 277
    edited March 2015

    hello everyone, just an update on taxol #1. I don't think I've seen this from anyone but I had a weird SE from the Benedryl. It made mesleepy. When I was on my taxol drip I woke up with one restless leg from the benedryl. Oh, how I feel for people who have that now!!! The only relief I got was to walk around, even though I was super tired.

    Has anybody had to have a transfusion? My hemoglobin number is 9.4. It has gone done about a point at every blood draw. They said at 8 is when they get concerned. I may have a transfusion in my future.

    My blood pressure is dropping too and I'm getting dizzy. Usually I'm around 120 over 80, Monday I was 110 over 70- something. Today I was 106 over 60-something, so they gave me IV fluids at the end of treatment.

    Even with all that, so far it has been easier on me.

  • Cherylfg
    Cherylfg Member Posts: 97
    edited March 2015

    SweetHope- I haven't had to have a Neulasta shot so far. As long as my numbers stay high enough, I won't need one. The join pain was from Taxol and it seems to come and go.

    Beachbum-I'm on weekly Taxol. The good thing about it is that it seems to be going quickly. Enjoy your break! Good for you for demanding some time off.

    I had my 3rd Taxol infusion today and it went well. I didn't have a reaction to the first two so I didn't need need as many pre-meds this time. They only gave me Zofran. I was really glad to skip the Benedryl and steroid.

    I still have this horrible cough, which is just a virus, so there is nothing that can be done. I'm on week 2 and still coughing up a storm. Other than that, I feel pretty good.

    Cheryl

  • TNBBGIRL
    TNBBGIRL Member Posts: 1
    edited March 2015

    I started my first round of chemo on January 23rd....I have to do 6 rounds of TAC treatments 3 weeks apart....in the morning I am off to chemo #4....I then will have a 4 week break and 21 rounds of radiation.

    I am 35 years old..with no family history of any tpye of cancer. November 4th, 2014 I was diagnosed..I had lumpectoney surgrey on November 27th, and on January 8th a second surgrey to clear the margins. On December 19th, I found out that my margins had to be cleared..and I also found out the type of cancer I have. I was diagnosed with Stage 1a 2cm tumor, lymph nodes negative, Triple Negative Breast Cancer. I thank my lucky stars EVERYDAY that I have an early cancer, and found the tumor when I did.

    I am ready to face and beat this horrible disease like a BULL HEAD ON...the only way I know how 😊

    Cheers and good luck to u all!!

  • dstar
    dstar Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2015

    Hi All,

    There is a lot going on in this thread. Wow, forgive me, I must leave out names except for SweetHope, FIGHT your current MO for that referral, the PT I saw said the sooner I came in if I got LE, the less damage it would do and the sooner it would abate. The American Cancer Society web site has a good section on LE, it covers most issues and has simple, practical suggestions. The PT gave me a printed version and went over it with me. The main thing I got is that you want to avoid all inflammation on the side where your lymph nodes were removed. Any cut, even a hang-nail can cause inflammation (histamine response, I think) and that can cascade into LE. So the mosquito bites would cause more inflammation. Then, yeah get out of there!

    And

    All chemo sucks! I really like that. My AC #4 was rough. The extra week off was welcome. I was able to get back to work everyday for 6 to 8 hours a day. So glad about that. Just had my first Taxol treatment today. I cried and kicked the elevator and swore because my appt had been moved up by 2 hours the night before and I was late after scrambling to get there then one of the elevators was broken so I wasn't going to get up to the 5th floor anytime soon. I told my MO all of this later and she laughed and said "that's what the elevator door is for, don't worry". I was having a mild panic attack of sorts. But my MO and then the nurses calmed me down. Blood pressure went down. After AC, any chemo just scares the crap out of me. I shake and shake in my boots. All chemo sucks. I iced my feet and my nails. I like to ice, not brave, I just like the cold. My nails are tender. I am using cream, nail oil, keeping my nails short and using the nail strengthener. But still, yowch! Back of hand is peeling where blisters were, reveling normal colored skin underneath.

    My concealer can no longer cover the deep black circles under my eyes. Yay for sunglasses. Can't spell anymore so back later.

    You all are so brave. So brave. I am so proud and amazed by of all of you .You help me to go get an infusion though I would rather stay home and nap. 11 infusions to go.

    Good Night.

    D.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    dstar, Oh my what a day you had. I am so glad you didn't break your foot on that door though! But sometimes just going wild just feels so dang good, I do it and then I have to clean up the damage. Every now and again I just get so ticked off it is great to unload. Good thing I live alone huh? Well you can celebrate finishing AC!! The Taxol should be a welcome relief. At least the side effects may be kinder to you.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    jlstacey, how is the blood pressure today? Mine has been very low since I finished chemo. But I have heart damage from the Adriamycin. When I had my mastectomy, my blood pressure dropped to 70/34, and stayed low for 4 days. They would not let me leave the hospital so I stayed for 4 1/2 days. I just checked it and it is 80/66. Ugh! I'm going to chug some water and see how it goes. Take Care.

  • RV6gal
    RV6gal Member Posts: 331
    edited March 2015

    Stillstruggling – so happy to hear the nausea is subsiding! Hope the 3rd week is as good or better for you then usual!!

    Spookisgirl – great to hear you are still dancing! So incredible really! Good on you! It is those things that definitely help us get through this "CHIT". Good luck with your final AC!!

    Jlstacey – sorry to hear you are struggling with your blood pressure.That must be affecting your fatigue also! Not wishing a blood transfusion in your future but hope they can help you get all this straightened out sooner than later. This process is tiring enough without the added struggles. On the plus side, I'm happy you are finding Taxol easier! You deserve it!!

    Cheryl, that's great you got to skip some of the premeds! I swear that's what gives me most of my troubles each cycle! I dropped the Zofran (Ondansetron) but still take the Dexamethasone (Decadron). It is supposed to help with the fluid buildup caused by the Taxotere. With the puffiness I'm getting, it is hard to believe sometimes! Hope you can shake that cough soon too!

    TNBBGIRL - Sorry you have found yourself here but it sounds like you have got a great attitude to fight this. I wish you continued strength and success as you beat this early cancer DX.

    Dstar – sorry you were struggling yesterday! I have had some struggles like that too that came up suddenly and it was tough to overcome them. I'm much better when I'm on my own to settle down but we don't always get that opportunity. Glad your MO and nurses were able to help you get over that! On the plus side, that's AC done and 1 Taxol in the bag! Congratulations!!

    Beachbum – you are always so helpful for everyone here and on other threads! Wish I had some helpful advice about the low blood pressure/heart issues you are dealing with. Hope the fluid intake helps you this morning !!

    I am feeling pretty good this morning – less energized than yesterday but that's good too cause I had a better night sleep because of it, I think! I can feel more tingling in my feet but was icing them last night and think I will continue doing that on and off today. I'm hoping I don't get any muscle/nerve pain but am ready for it should it happen. One step at a time!

    Happy Friday everyone,

    Wendy

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Hi RV6Gal, thank you so much, but it is amazing to see how everyone lives through all of this insanity in an effort to get well. I am so glad to be here, it really makes a difference to be with everyone that gets it. It is so hard to explain that to anyone that has never had to deal with BC. I hope by drinking extra water and skipping caffeine it will bring my blood pressure up, I am feeling pretty unsteady and slow moving today. I think it has been adding to my fatigue. I am hoping that skipping the MO until 4/28 with help before chemo again. Have a great day!!

  • spookisgirl
    spookisgirl Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2015

    AC #4 in the bag, very glad to be done with the 'red devil'. Infusion today was rough, nose was running, eyes watering, I was also alone as my friend who usually come with me wasn't able to come. I also had to wait 2 hours just to start because they were so far behind today (I think with the holiday coming up it is throwing things off).

    I can tell already this is going to be a whole different ballgame than my last 3 infusions. I am quite nauseated already, and have no appetite (usually I want to eat my entire fridge after infusions). Just spent over an hour lying in bed with my eyes closed to shut out 'information overload'. Can't wait until 10 when I can take my anti-nausea meds again and go to sleep. Hoping for a good 'steroid high' tomorrow that lasts through Sunday again. Not so sure this time.

    Taxol starts 17 April.

    Jenn

  • dstar
    dstar Member Posts: 72
    edited March 2015

    Hey Beachbum and Wendy,

    Thanks for the validation! I felt like a wild animal in a cage. Don't put baby in a corner, as they say. It all gets to feeling so out of control and my head starts swimming. I'd kick that damn steel elevator door a hundred times, it felt great! I am so weak, I couldn't hurt my foot. hahaha. Beachbum, I am so glad you demanded a long break, you deserve it. Sorry about the low blood pressure, that is troubling. Hey, maybe this is the perfect time to take up light smoking? It would shoot your blood pressure right up. I'm sure your cardiologist would love that! Yeah, don't take that advice.

    Wendy, I am icing my feet too, my onco nurse said the theory is that icing reduces the blood flow so less of the Taxol or Taxotere is able to make it into your feet and hands, minimizing damage to your nerves. I did not know this, no studies done, but she and my MO said why not try it, no harm. I got this huge ice pack with a cloth cover that I can rest both of my feet on. It's good.

    Also, for those on a Taxane drug, if Claritin is not helping with muscle, joint pain, I was given Zyrtec instead. Studies have shown it (just a usual dose of 10mg per day) to be effective against the swelling and pain caused by the Taxanes. So maybe talk to your MOs about switching? I found that Claritin was wimpy when it came to controlling my severe seasonal allergies, but Zyrtec rocked.

    Jenn, AC #4 was tough for me. You will make it through. But it sucks. Went to take a 1/2 hour nap today, slept 5 hours. but I feel so much better than on AC. No cement stomach, no side effects from anti nausea meds. Even though I had the huge 20 mg dose of steroids yesterday, that is still less than the overall dose I had to take with AC which was 36 mg over 4 days. Hoping that my mood will go through less of a distortion as it leaves my system. Next time, I only get 16 mgs, tapering off 4 mgs each week until I am weaned completely off it. Whew. My face is bright red. And I had one long hot flash last night. Had to have a fan on and ice packs to sleep. People say, you look healthy. I do not. I am puffy and red and have peeling lizard hands. But my nails look OK for now, so I will take what I can get. I am able to eat more normally too. More fruits and vegies, feels good. Want to get my nutrition back on track after eating whatever would stay down on AC. Yeah, so I am celebrating! And you can't explain it to someone who has not been through it. Also, my MO said I can take ibuprofen again, no more anemic Tylenol for me. So I hope I can skip the narcotics if the joint and bone pain hits.

    Well, time for bed. Can I sleep 13 to 15 hours a day? YES, I can. Stay strong ladies, and sleep well with your brave, brave hearts beating in your chests, warriors all.

  • Brandi999
    Brandi999 Member Posts: 143
    edited March 2015

    Okay so 2 things I'm experiencing that are weird and wondering if anyone else is. First, I'm noticing that I'm not hearing words right and also that I'm having a hard time hearing sarcasm when it's normally my second language. Also my fingers are constantly pruny right now even though I haven't had them in water.

  • Tennisfan
    Tennisfan Member Posts: 114
    edited March 2015

    bonsoir (or bonjour, given the time it is lol...

    Last AC in the bag for me too. They were late so I got there at 7:45 for 8am appointment but did not get oit until 12:30. Have to take Neulasta just in case even if my neutrophiles were now 2.4 (compated to 0.6 last week, which delayed me a week). Can someone clarify which claritin product, dosage and was it really helpful for bone pain?

    Played tennis on sednesday night but not sure if I will be able to continue on weekly Taxol.

    Brandi999, my fingers are pruny as well. I was associating that with overwashing my hands all thr time but could also be that I don't drink enough water...

    Jenn, starting Taxol on the same date as you.

    LCH, we will be the last ones saying hello to each other ten years from now because of that study lol.

    Kristin whay dosage is recommended for L-Glutamine, which I can't seem to find?

    That's it for now, embrace April and spring which is now truly knocking at the door up here!!

    Marjorie

    P.s. Beachbum - you make a huge difference in so many lives, do you realise that?

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Spookisgirl, Congratulations #4 in the bag!!!! I am so happy for you, that is something to dance about. Rough combo indeed. But you did it. I hope the running nose and watering eyes go away soon. Make sure you drink enough water, side effects are cumulative and 4 devils add up. But you have a break until the 17th so that should help a bit. I hope your weather turns into Spring, and you have sun and blue skies to enjoy. Hopefully the Taxol will be much kinder to you. Sleep and repair, you need that now. And everyone will be here to greet you when you wake up! Here's to a comfortable weekend. Take Care!

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Good Morning Tennisfan, Congratulations on finishing #4! I think it's time to jump the net, isn't that what winners do?? You made it, a really big deal. It is so nice to be able to look back at that and know you are done with it. And even better to know that you have a break until 4/17. Much needed and deserved to rest and repair. But you are still playing tennis? I am so impressed, but I am sure that your love of the game has pulled you through. Don't forget to hydrate enough when you play.

    I had Neulasta with AC as well, but the bone pain was a problem with dose dense Taxol. The level of pain increased with each infusion. I tried the Claritin, but I did not find relief with it. I took Tylenol #3 with Codeine. The last dose of Neulasta I had cut in half, and no pain. Since it was the last one my MO had no problem with cutting it since I had time to repair after it.

    I hope your weather is coming around, and is more Spring like. Here we are back in the 20's today. Sunny but very windy and cold. They say 50's next week. I can't wait to get back outside and find some sunshine!

    Marjorie, thank you so much for your very kind words. I drop in to read the threads and I hope to encourage everyone to go one more time, get up another day, and I am amazed how strong and powerful everyone is. I know how hard it is to get to this point, and I know the anguish, tears, pain, and frustration that I read. But as a group, so many good things have happened along the way. The good times, laughter, and joy shine far brighter than the uncertain infusion days. And we all have so much life to live!

    Have a great weekend, rest and repair! Cheryl

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Hi Brandi, I never had the weird fingers, but maybe you need more liquid to hydrate? It can sneak up on you sometimes. My chemo brain sometimes doesn't catch words or complete thoughts. So maybe it's not so much your hearing, but comprehension of what has been said? I have to read everything multiple times to remember stuff. And if I don't write everything down I can't make sense out of it. I hope you have a comfortable weekend, and you feel better every day! Cheryl

  • stillstruggling
    stillstruggling Member Posts: 33
    edited March 2015

    Good Afternoon. Just checking in with everyone. Have a fabulous Saturday. I am out of bed and so thankful for that. My arm hurts from 7 neulasta shots to get my wbc counts up, but I would take that over being chemo sick any day. Have a great weekend everyone.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    dstar, I think we are all entitled to a little rage now and again! It does feel good to vent a little, as long as we don't break any bones. My blood pressure is very annoying, and keeps me on my toes watching it drop. I would smoke a little if that helps, but I am trying to quit a lot. Almost there, being trapped inside all winter is a problem. I hope being outside soon will help that. My Cardiologists are very forgiving on that issues, way more than my PS. But I hope to conquer that issue soon.

    I thought about icing my feet and fingernails, and well I just thought about it. Sounded like more than I wanted to deal with. My fingernails are looking good, and my toenails are doing pretty good. Almost there and back to normal. But at one point my feet looked like they belonged to a lizard. Yikes, and right before sandal season too. But I hope this is the last of that. The dry skin all over has been very annoying. I can't seem to use enough lotion to keep it from drying.

    It's funny for me to look out the slider over the lake and see snow and ice. Then I see my electric blanket, and a large fan. Some nights I am not too sure if I am cold, warm, or over heating and sweating. Very strange feeling since my armpit has moved since surgery. And I am not too sure if my armpit will sweat since I finished rads. But it explains why I am wearing capris and it is 25 degrees today.

    I did try the Claritin, and it worked with Neulasta and AC, but not with the Taxol. I used Tylenol #3 with Codeine, and I was so glad I had it. I only took 1/2 the dose of Neulasta for the last one. I was done with the bone pain. I hope you do better!

    So the good news, I am going to have a hair trim soon. The back of my own hair is growing pretty quick, and soon it will be peeping out from under my wig. A great problem to have!! I guess hair is our reward for finishing AC, and starting Taxol. We can watch the fuzz turn to hair, and grow as we all count the days to be done! Biotin is good for your hair, and it is cheap.

    I guess when we are craving salads and fruits and veggies, it is a good thing! So while I had fresh cauliflower, fresh mushrooms, fresh strawberries, and shrimp for dinner last night, the homemade warm pineapple upside down cake wasn't really fruit. LOL but super yummy! I guess Bailey's isn't coffee cream either.................

    Have a great weekend!

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2015

    Patty,

    congrats on finishing chemo. Tell your family that with as much as your body has been through it will take time to recover and you need to allow yourself that time.

  • jlstacey
    jlstacey Member Posts: 277
    edited March 2015

    hi Beachbum, I'm not sure what my blood pressure is. I don't have a cuff. I might have to get one if it continues to be low.

    Congratulations to Tennisfan and Spookisgirl on finishing AC! Good riddance Red Devil!

    How is everyone feeling today, especially those that just had their last AC? How are you today RV6gal? I hope you don't have any bone pain. I've been lucky so far, but it's only round one of Taxol. I have had minor achiness and a headache. Also, I'm tired.

    I'm getting ANOTHER cold. I think I have had two weeks without a cold during all of this chemo. I plan to go to my GP about my eyes that won't stop watering and to my dentist about a swollen gum. Fun week for me

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2015

    TNBBGIRL, I admire your strength and your courage. This is a long hard road and what ever you do, please feel free to come here and talk, vent, cry and pray with all of us. We are here for you.

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2015

    Dstar, stay strong, you got this and we are all here to support you. I laughed a bit about kicking the elevator door. I have felt like that many of times. There have been times when I would get in the car to go somewhere and forget where I needed to go so I would cry and beat up my steering wheel until I bruised my hand. My son stopped me one day so I wouldn't bruise my hand.

    Take care and stay strong.

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2015

    Hello everyone,

    I just wanted to a add a few things. I have watery eyes too. Very dry skin no matter how much water I drink. Our temps are in the 90'S now here in Arizona and it's only going to continue to get HOTTER!!

    Also my feet are peeling and my toe nails on my big toes feel like they are infected but they don't look infected. I have not iced my nails because they keep the chemotherapy room so cold I freeze anyway.

    I always get a headache during my Taxol infusion and I don't know what causes it. Last week I took meds for it and it wasn't near as bad.

    Ladies, keep up the good spirits and have a great weekend

  • thecolorpurple
    thecolorpurple Member Posts: 126
    edited March 2015

    hey Marjorie, the glutamine can be bought on amazon. The stuff I take is called Body Fortress 100% pure glutamine powder. I take 2 tsp three times daily which is 10 gm x 3, for a total of 30 gm daily. I also take b1, b6 and b12.

    I got critically neutropenic from my last dose of AC and have been on house arrest. I got my first dose of taxol this past weds and hallelujah!! No nausea! I just have some fatigue and bone pain which is nothing compared to that awful nausea.

    Unfortunately, though, My husband has developed a DVT from a vein procedure he had so I have been nursing him and giving him the twice daily heparin shots. We are mid 40s but feel like we are already falling apart at our young age! Sorry I have been absent on here, just a lot going on. But I must say, I like taxol A LOT better than AC so far... Off to watch a funny movie and do some much needed laughing! Thinking of you all,


    Kristin

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Hi thecolorpurple, I was happy to read that so far so good on the switch to Taxol. And your hair should start growing back soon, mine started to fuzz after the first Taxol. So good news for sure. Sorry to hear about your DH though. I agree that once one thing starts it is almost like a fountain! It pours, and I am 58. So when I went to the Doctor to look at this little lump, well they decided I needed a diagnosis for every ache, pain, bump, and freckle on my body. And then they want a new test, procedure, surgery, scan, the list is on going and endless. I hope DH is improving and on the mend. Are you done after Taxol, or do you have rads? Take Care, Cheryl

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2015

    Kristin, I am glad to hear the Taxol is a little more gentle on you. I hope your dh is also recovering. It's not easy when you have to take care of yourself and someone else who is sick or hurt.

  • mommacat4
    mommacat4 Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2015

    Beachbum, you talk about hair growth While on Taxol. I have had 3 Taxol treatments now and my hair is not growing back yet. I have not started taking the biotin but I do rub oil into my head. I alternate between coconut oil and argon oil for my head. I do think I will have to use it more frequently because of the warmer temps now, just to keep my head from drying out.

    Maybe I am just impatient but I don't like my bald head. I only go bald around home but if someone comes over, I cover it. If I go outside, I cover it. I don't let people outside my immediate family see my bald head.

  • Beachbum1023
    Beachbum1023 Member Posts: 1,417
    edited March 2015

    Hi mommacat, I had AC X 4 dose dense, and Taxol X 4 dose dense. My hair started to grow back in after the first infusion of Taxol. I also take Biotin for my hair. I washed my head with Johnson's baby shampoo, and used Pantene conditioner. Not because I needed it, but it smelled "normal" to me :). I wear my wig all the time, unless I am home alone. My hair is over 1" inch now. The funny part was when it grew back, it is dark brown and gray. I was so shocked to see it come in not blonde. I had my wig made to match my hair at the time, and that is the color I had it :) I thought coloring the roots was bad before :) Do you still have your eye brows and eye lashes? Mine fell out fast, but regrew in very full, so a bonus. Take Care. Cheryl

  • Noor46
    Noor46 Member Posts: 68
    edited March 2015

    Kirstin, happy to hear you have less se's on taxol. I'am also very happy not to have the nausea and the foggy brain. It is not easy if your husband also has health problems and you have to take care of him when our are not feeling well. I am 48 but sometimes I feel and look like 80 too!

    Mommacat, I don't think everybody has his hair grow back when on taxol, but that would be nice. I don't hate my bald head, but if it could grow back quickly that would be nice. I'am on taxotere, with coldcap, but my docters say it will grow back after I finish chemo, but secretly hope I'am an exception and it will start to grow back now. I never lost all my hair on fec, it only got very thin.

    Jlstacey, hope that with springweather your cold will pass also!

    I'am feeling a little better today, but friday and saterday I had terrible jointpains, but with painkillers and doing nothing it was not to bad.

    The only thing I have is a rash on my back, which started about a day after I stopped the steroids, some kind of allergic reaction. Anyone else has this too? I will call monday for medication.

    Noor

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