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  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    Maryellen- you know my name. I am Katy aka JackBirdie. I recommend from Etsy, hats, felted, and slouchy knitted, chemo scull caps, felted slippers, felted and knitted tote bags, earrings, my fabulous earring tree. Please share so i can vicariously enjoy.

    Thanks for counting up. I had guessed around 25. It's good (and not do good) to know we are so many. I draw great strength from this group. I know you do too. xox

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited March 2015

    Dang, you girls are chatty today! Welcome to the newcomers and I hope your SE's are minimal to non-existent!

    I hate this phase of AC. I'm on Round 2, Day 7 and the steroids have me buzzing but the chemo has me exhausted. My body is so confused LoL. My heart rate is still higher than it should be. I'm running 110 resting but it goes up to 130 if I do any activity. Unless I take the Ativan - then it drops down to 95. Clinically, it doesn't make sense but it's what the MO said to do. I don't feel anxious...maybe it's just high from the steroids?

    I bought a little loveseat for my office (I have a big office and I'm short so it didn't have to be too big) and it looks so inviting right now. Sigh...I'd take a nap but my legs won't stop moving long enough! D*mn you steroids!!!!!

    Bekah

  • so-she-did
    so-she-did Member Posts: 202
    edited March 2015

    Heading out to a consignment furniture store today (looking for new couches) and there is a Target next door. I hope I can make it out of the area without breaking the bank but I definitely want to buy myself a treat today. First day I've felt good since chemo so I want to celebrate!

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    So :I am glad you are having a good day!

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    Leigh: I felt exactly like you do on Monday and yesterday all I could do was pace around. The first day was nothing. I had a couple of hot flashes (caused by what I have no idea). Since I am only one day ahead of you, maybe I can tell you what to expect. Neulasta shot today at 2. THAT'S the one I am scared of. Took the preemptive Claritan.

  • PrincessOfMeh
    PrincessOfMeh Member Posts: 167
    edited March 2015

    So-she-did, one of my old friends had to corner me to tell me about a close relative of hers who had died of a different cancer last year and warned me to put my affairs in order. Uh...yeah, thanks for the vote of confidence there, buddy, awesome! LOL. Most everybody has been like you described, sharing uplifting stories about how so-and-so got through chemo without so much as a chipped fingernail while holding down 4 jobs, raising 6 perfect children, wooing her romantic devil of a husband, and saving the world from rogue meteors, terrorists, and the Beib. C'MON! Yeesh, already. Isn't it hard enough that we women pressure ourselves to be SuperWoman when we're healthy? Now I'm supposed to be the BC SuperSurvivor too? My husband's even at it now. I woke up way early this morning so I'd see him before he went to work and to drive the kids to school. He called at mid-morning and I told him I'd written x number of words, but I was done for the day because my brain was gluey, tired. He replied hey, that's a great start! NO, Mister Cheery McCheerleader, that is NOT a great start. That's what I'm able to produce now. That's it. My new normal. Is it as much as I wrote before? No. But I didn't have cancer before and chemo brain or no chemo brain, the fatigue is slaying my mental acuity. Writing pages I know are garbage just so I (or he) can feel all warm and tingly about how cancer hasn't stopped me is NOT going to happen. I won't put myself through that and I sure won't inflict what amounts to drek on my readership, either.

    I've been very lucky with SEs so far. Mine have been relatively mild, but I highly resent the idea that I'm supposed to keep doing all of my normal things without hiccup or stumble. There will be hiccups. I will stumble. That's just how it's going to be and I shouldn't be made to feel bad about that or inferior/less because of it.

    Uh...rant over? LOL

  • SC_Coqui
    SC_Coqui Member Posts: 133
    edited March 2015

    I'm home with my son after a visit to the pediatrician. She thinks he has some bronchial infection that's going around. She gave him an antibiotic. I picked it up at the pharmacy but they never bothered to ask me if I wanted it flavored-- so I thought it did. Poor kid, as soon as I gave it to him he was screaming that "it's burning". I thought he was having an allergic reaction so I called the pharmacist and she says that it's an extremely bitter medicine and that they charge extra for flavoring. I tasted it -- Holy WOW! NASTY! I apologized to him and we'll be taking it over to get flavored. He's resting in his room and I'm working in the living room. I need to work from home tomorrow as well, since the doctor said he needs to stay home. On his birthday of all days! I've been washing my hands like crazy and using hand sanitizer -- we have them all over the house. I'm also wearing my mask.

    As for real names, my real name is Joanna. I actually live in SC, though I might as well live in NC since we're so close the the border and to Charlotte. The Coqui part of my username is from being originally from Puerto Rico and the Coqui is a species of tree frog native to PR. It makes a high pitched call that sounds like it's name :)

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    Rant away, Princess! I especially enjoyed the part about wooing your husband. I know what's going to happen. One day along the way someone is going to tell me one of those Superwoman stories and I am going to set them straight. I feel sorry for the poor sap that it will end up being.

    SC: I knew what the Coquis were. We went to PR a few years ago. Apparently they have migrated to Hawaii and the Hawaiians hate them because they LOUD. (as I am sure you know)

    I am Allison and I live in the Chicago suburbs. I will post wig pictures shortly.

  • so-she-did
    so-she-did Member Posts: 202
    edited March 2015

    I had one of those absurd - only if you are having chemo would you understand- thoughts last night. My husband and I were, ahem, getting intimate and sometimes he tugs on my hair a little. I started laughing as this image came popping into my head of him coming away with a look of shock on his face and a handful of my detached hair! I think I am still safe for about a week but, sheesh, what a crazy thought! (hopefully this isn't TMI for anyone).

    Oh, and I am Amy from Reno, Nevada. (although I might not want to admit to that now - lol!)

    Okay, still haven't made it out the door to do anything today...

  • ninjamary
    ninjamary Member Posts: 306
    edited March 2015

    Princess...that post cracked me up! My husband told me ... "maybe you should stop talking to cancer survivors" because I was complaining about a woman who meant well, but spent most of the conversation telling me to get a second opinion, that my chemo (below are stats) is a horrible choice and that the cancer hospital I go to is crap and I should go to Jefferson, Penn, Anderson. I didn't take what she said the wrong way, but I get his response.

    So far I haven't met too many idiots. So far.......that could change in the next 10 minutes.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    Ok, halfway through with chemo today. Pretty ticked off. First, they forgot my Benadryl then wanted me to take a pill. I said no, I was told I will get it in IV form - more effective. Then they bring my chemo over and say okay Taxotere and Herceptin and you will be good to go. I said hello, I am supposed to have Carboplatin too. She said oh let me check. WTH? So now I have been monitoring everything today, making sure they clean things, etc. I spoke with the nurse practitioner and said am I supposed to be verifying I get the right chemo drugs, or is that this office's job? She went and had speak with several people but I mean, come on. This is my life we are talking about.

    Other than that, uneventful so far today. But I am still so mad. Freezing my feet and mouth. Hope it helps with mouth sores and nails! I didn't get any first go-around so I'm not sure how I will know if the icing is working. But I'm willing to do it just in case.

    The nurse practitioner here said the IV anti-nausea infusion drugs should last me two days. Is that what others have been told? She said I shouldn't have to take any anti-nausea medications for the first two days. Has that been the experience of those on this forum?

  • ninjamary
    ninjamary Member Posts: 306
    edited March 2015

    Italy chick, I would be pissed off!!!! I've only had one treatment. My chemo drug is bright red so I knew my nurse was on the ball (and she was suited up)

    I think you should complain to the higher ups. I hope she at least came back with some sort of explanation.

    I can't tell you about anti-nausea meds. First go-around I didn't need them as I was in a clinical study for a special new pill and I'm 99.9% sure I got the tested drug and not a sugar pill.

  • BBwithBC45
    BBwithBC45 Member Posts: 727
    edited March 2015

    ItalyChick, I was told the same about the anti-nausea drugs. I get my chemo on Tuesdays and was told not to take anti-nausea until Thursday night. I usually get a little nauseated on Wednesdays already, around mid-day, so I'm somewhat uncomfortable till Thursday night. I try to help myself by drinking unflavored kefir, in addition to tons of water and eating frequent small meals/snacks.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    So: I think that's hilarious and the kind of thing that makes our group fun to be with!

    Italy: Wow, just wow. I would be mad, too. When I went to get a neulasta shot today, she said around the third day a lot of people have nausea. So that would follow your theory about the IV meds.

  • SC_Coqui
    SC_Coqui Member Posts: 133
    edited March 2015

    Italychick- my nurses told me to take the anti-nausea meds as soon as I was home. They didn't tell me to wait. She said the amount in the prescription is pretty low so there's no way to take too much. If I would have waited two days I would have been in bad shape.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    I took it today and I am very drowsy. But so far, no nausea at all.

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited March 2015

    Mine told me the IV meds would hold me for a day or two and I could 'start them tonight if I really wanted to' but that first round of AC hit me within 3 hours...so much for a day or two!

    Second round I had the oral meds on hand and they gave me a Sancuso patch to help with nausea. They said I'm one of the few that gets such severe symptoms. Lucky me. Fortunately, the patch did help a lot.

    But my DH monitors everything they do. I mean everything! He has a little spreadsheet app on his iPad to keep track of it all. I keep waiting for him to ask me to start monitoring my output too LoL. He used to work in research & development at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory...that's what I get for marrying a propeller head! He gets so frustrated because they say the brand names of chemo drugs and then hand him a sheet of what I'm getting that day and it's all listed with the generic names. He starts going off about speaking 2 different languages and they need to be consistent. Yeah...I said 'welcome to the world of medicine'.

  • so-she-did
    so-she-did Member Posts: 202
    edited March 2015

    Italychick - Yikes! I'm glad you were paying attention and have raised hell! To answer your question about antiemetics, they give me Emend in my IV, which is supposed to last a few days but they also said I could take Compazine as soon as needed that night. The next day I start on Zofran in the morning and take Compazine for any breakthrough nausea. I ended up needing the Compazine for breakthroughs once in a while and still took Zofran up through day 6.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    I'm also getting Aloxi in my IV bags as an anti-nausea med. Is anybody else getting that? I get the Aloxi and the Emend. Also Decadron.

  • BBwithBC45
    BBwithBC45 Member Posts: 727
    edited March 2015

    My insurance declined Aloxi. They say Zofran should be enough for me. Isn't it "wonderful" when some bean counter is making medical decisions for me? Isn't it practicing medicine without license?

  • PrincessOfMeh
    PrincessOfMeh Member Posts: 167
    edited March 2015

    I have no idea what's in mine. Other than the chemo drugs, that is. They just tell me to take zofran the next day and take it for 2 days so that's what I do. I'm going to make a wild guess that I only get the steroids via pill (on days 2 & 3), though, because I crashed HARD my first day last time. Wammo! Flattened by the fatigue truck. I was totally out of it within a few hours. Went to be so early I woke up at 3am and felt fully rested, LOL.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    Ok two down, so I am 1/3rd of the way there. Man, am I jacked up on the steroids! started grilling my husband on the way home and he said calm down lol!

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited March 2015

    I was fine until I took that Compazine. It wiped me out.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    congrats to Trvler, Beatit and Italychick for getting through it today. Steroids are very powerful and it's too bad we need them. I start tonight on my new steroid trip.

    You all might remember I got rained out on my birthday. We rescheduled for today and it was glorious!

    I apologize for posting several pictures and taking up space, but I wanted to share a happy moment.,I walked about a mile, Jack ran about 5. He would thunder past me like a herd of Mustangs. So happy.imageimageimage

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2015

    awesome Jackbirdie! Where in Oregon do you live? We have done the coastal area several times, staying in Yachats, Cannon Beach, everywhere. Camped at Union Creek, stayed on the Rogue River too. Oregon is beautiful. But I got in trouble for pumping my own gas lol. Didn't know the protocol.

    Bbwithbc45 can't your doctor appeal the rejection? Mine has done that for things. At first I got rejected for the Neulasta. But so far, with it my white blood cell count is holding high. Baby whites (neutrophils) today were 12.5. So it is helping me to not have to worry about neutropenia, and with the Claritin I had zero bone pain with the first injection. Second one is tomorrow.

    Oh and did I mention how glad I am I have a port? Person sitting next to me today blew out a vein and they had to re-do his IV. Yikes! It was a fire drill for sure.

    My oncologist said take Compazine first if I can because the Zofran can cause headaches and the Zofran hits the same receptors as the amend so it isn't as effective for the first two days. So far, I haven't taken the Zofran. I would be interested to hear which drugs work best for everybody

  • slothabouttown
    slothabouttown Member Posts: 449
    edited March 2015

    Katy what a beautiful day at the coast. It's raining but warm here in Portland, a fine day to be in the chair. IC my docs have said to always stay ahead of nausea if you can, so if meds are needed then don't wait. Both last round and today I've had more what I would describe as heartburn than nausea. Plus lots of burping and sneezing, weird SEs I noticed last time too. I took a prochlorperazine when I got home and made a pot of ginger tea. That's messed up about your infusion mix up. My prep team wanted to remove the wrong breast during my first surgery. My surgeon reassured me that he would have caught it, and as it turned out that one went a week after the first so there's that. Anyway I do think we have to be as aware as we can about what's going into or coming off of our bodies- just another role we have to assume like it or not!

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    thank you Italychick! I live in the Coos Bay region, which is is about 2 1/2 hrs south of Yachats. About 25k peeps. The pictures were taken about 50 miles south, at Cape Blanco. One of my favorite places on earth. I had a re-buzz on the head, and now it doesn't hurt anymore. And we visited my dear friend stage IV, who went on hospice this week. A full day for sure.

    For chemo one, I did get anti-nausea in the bag, and was told that the continuation of the steroids in day 2-4 also helped, and that was why I should delay the zofran and compazine. As soon as the steroid time was up, I just took the zofran. I didn't wait to feel any nausea. Then I experimented staggering the zofran and compazine as was suggested in an earlier post. I never let my stomach get empty ... Even an bite of yoghurt or a couple of nuts. Had to force myself, but I never did feel any significant nausea. The couple of times I thought it might be coming, it turned out to be gas. Good thing I live alone haha.

    Best of luck to everyone for an uneventful night. Always thinking of my girls. Nobody else really gets it.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited March 2015

    sorry, Slothabout. I'm really screwed up with my notes. Forgot you were in the chair today.

    So true we must be so aware. And so sorry you had to have two surgeries a week apart!

    Portland is wonderful. I was planning to visit the Japanese Garden in May. One of the best. But alas, I think that might be too much for me during chemo..... Maybe if I plan it towards the end of a cycle. Spend the night. I might be able to interest the friend who went with me today to share the driving.....otherwise, I know it will be beautiful I in the fall too.

  • rleepac
    rleepac Member Posts: 755
    edited March 2015

    This afternoon I actually felt human - at least for a few hours! I took DD to swing at the park and I took my little girl along too to play some frisbee. Then I walked 4 times around the park...yay me!! I think all 3 of us were happy to be enjoying to beautiful sunshine today!

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  • SC_Coqui
    SC_Coqui Member Posts: 133
    edited March 2015

    Feeling much better today, fever's down, YAY!

    Jackiebirdie -- is your smaller dog a Jack Russell? He's so stinking cute! We used to have a Lab many years ago. We love dogs, but travel too much now to have one. Someday...


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