Another study backs exercise

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Momine
Momine Member Posts: 7,859

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-s...

"New research conducted on mice finds that a body that gets regular physical activity is a more hostile environment for cancer's growth in breast tissue than is a sedentary body. And once breast cancer has gained a foothold, regular aerobic exercise makes a tumor more vulnerable to the effects of chemotherapy."

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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2015

    Since I exercised during chemo, that article makes me very happy!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited March 2015

    Ruthbru, I did too and some of the (Greek) onc assistants thought it was a bit weird. I mostly walked, but whenever I was able I walked a lot. I sent the article to my onc, and for the first time ever, he actually answered, because he too is excited about this research.

  • ShazzaKelly
    ShazzaKelly Member Posts: 909
    edited March 2015

    I'm stage 4. Regular exercise never stopped me getting Cancer but it's something I enjoy so I keep doing it. I walk (did run), paddle board and go to Pilates and circuit classes. I truely believe it is one of the reasons that I have managed to stay on weekly Taxol for 18 months with few side effects and a fantastic response to the treatment. My diet is pretty good but I feel that keeping up the exercise even when I'm feeling fatigued, in fact especially when I'm feeling fatigued has been the key to my success so far.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited March 2015

    Shazza, I bet you are right about that - exercise being helpful both in maximizing efficacy of treatment and minimizing SEs. When my mom and BIL had cancer treatment in Denmark, exercise was part of the treatment, especially during chemo.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2015

    I think U.S. doctors often, out of good intentions, tell people diagnosed with cancer to 'slow down', 'take it easy' etc. etc. when really they should be telling them the opposite. I remember I was horrified by that advice and said, "No, that is not how I am going to do this!" And then I read a bunch of books until I found one by a doctor who said, "Push yourself to maintain as normal a life as possible. Going out and being active is not going to make your treatment any less effective, and possibly it will make it more effective." Since that is what I wanted to hear, that is what I did.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2015

    Ruthbru, Momine, all, this makes me happy too. I exercised all through AC/T and rads. Bikram yoga 2x a week--I did back off on that since I had been going 3-4 times a week-, walking 1/2 hour with the dog (I walk fast) 2-3 times a week, hiking after my weekly taxol. I even hiked 45" when my white count was too low to GET taxol one week (I was mad,had to work it off!). I went to the gym to weigh-lift 2 x a week as well.

    My friends and family were agog, and so was my medical team. But it was the only thing that made me feel normal, since I had been on that regime before dx and I sure as heck wasn't going to let c rob me of that. I needed to somehow feel in control, like I was doing something good for myself. I had heard this claim before--exercise helps chemo work--and I also heard that it helps rads work better, but not sure where I read that.

    Claire in AZ

  • Leighrh
    Leighrh Member Posts: 317
    edited March 2015

    I love this!!! I can't tell you how many people have told me I needed to quit my current exercise ( Crossfit) while doing Chemo.  I will power through and try to make it to the gym everyday that I can!!

  • Cindy_K
    Cindy_K Member Posts: 52
    edited March 2015

    This article and the other one that is recommended within it about eating low fat is such great news... Kinda makes me feel like I have some control and capability to assist in my treatment. And of course anything to reduce the SE of Tamoxifen --- I am down with!

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2015

    If any of you want some sisters-in-exercise, check out the "Lets Post Our Daily Exercise' thread on the fitness forum. A great group of ladies in all stages of treatment and beyond, who feel the same way about the importance of exercise!

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited March 2015

    That's very interesting and encouraging. I'm not on chemo (at least, not yet) but hope that my workouts are supporting my response to neoadjuvant endocrine therapy. This is certainly a great excuse to continue to carve out that time for myself!

  • WinningSoFar
    WinningSoFar Member Posts: 951
    edited March 2015

    I have read that the reason that breast cancer rarely metastasizes to muscle tissue is that the muscle is a hostile environment for it. So moving your muscles makes sense to me.

    On the other hand, breasts don't have muscles that I know of, so there must be some other dynamic going on there.


  • coraleliz
    coraleliz Member Posts: 1,523
    edited March 2015

    I was told to keep exercising. May have something to do with my MO being a runner, my BS surgeon being a runner/cyclist & my RO being a cyclist. When chemo was on the table, my MO told me that it would be better to keep up my exercise & take off work if necessary. Might not work financially tho.

    I've always been thin. My PCP always tells me I look like I lost weight & I always weigh about the same(plus or minus 1-2lbs). She did point out that I got cancer despite being thin, exercising & eating healthy.

    I've been wanting to try and figure out the benefit of exercise in percentages. From the little I've read so far, it sounds like it would be greater than 5 additional years of hormonal therapy, for me anyway.

  • Tomboy
    Tomboy Member Posts: 3,945
    edited March 2015

    Exercise is great, but the inside of tumors actually die naturally from lack of oxygen, it is called comedo necrosis. That's how they can tell that it is a particularly aggressive cancer, even when it stimulates and outgrows its own angiogenesis. I was extremely fit before, but chemo kicked my ass... more power to you!

  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited March 2015

    I think that being fit and then maintaining my core fitness during treatment made everything so much easier. I set out to prove that I could exercise every single day, and I did! By this, I mean walking a minimum of one mile along with weights/crunches. Like Claireinaz, my medical team was astonished. Even more interesting was that my study nurse was thankful for the photos I had of me on skis/bicycle to share with the study investigators. Because they were questioning the accuracy of what she was reporting.

    Being at Group Health (whose CEO walks the walk and does the Seattle-to-Portland and other fitness events they sponsor), my team was thrilled that I chose to exercise.

    On top of its effectiveness against breast cancer, I think that exercise is just so important as we get older. I live in a 50+ community, and let's just say that I define "active" a lot differently than most people here. I see people who have difficulty moving, and I think a lot of this is preventable if only they would actually USE the lovely trails around here.

    I know that I still ask "will I look sexy in it?" when I buy clothes (such as that fitted French leather jacket I found on eBay over the weekend for a song). So fun attached to clothes shopping too. Plus, I got to do much of my own moving last year.

    That said, need to get training for this summer's cycling events. Because my life just might depend upon it. - Claire

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2015

    Ladies, Claire in Seattle was my guru when I found out my dx. I read a post of hers and decided that if she could bicycle race during chemo, I could keep up with my rigorous bikram yoga schedule, weight-lift, and hike with my dog in the forest and rocks of No. Arizona as I always had. I've thanked Claire multiple times, but if you need someone who's survived and thrived through the journey (not just post- tx) I suggest you read some of her posts.

    That having been said, you'll get no judgment from me for those where chemo is such a freaking bear of a burden that you can't do what I did. We are all different. We are all doing everything we can do with what we have. I'm an incredibly stubborn person, and was so angry when I found out I had that dx that my pissed-off-edness gave me a real boost. Anger is a great motivator.

  • labelle
    labelle Member Posts: 721
    edited March 2015

    I'm trying, I'm trying! LOL.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2015

    Some people are truly knocked out by chemo, but the rest of us just have to the best we can.

  • JeninMichigan
    JeninMichigan Member Posts: 2,974
    edited March 2015

    I am Stage IV and my naturalist doctor has insisted that exercising three times a week to the point of a good sweat is imperative to keeping your lymphatic system moving and this is what filters the cancer cells. I have been doing a combat fitness and now cross fit for the last four years - 3-4 days a week faithfully. I have been NED since May 2008 and my biofeedback scans since I started the exercise have showed no cancer on a cellular level. Before this they it would pop up on my scans from time to time. I have been 4 years with no sign of it. This after liver and bones mets. I think there is a whole lot more to exercise than is given credit. Even when I was going through chemo and was so fatigued, he pushed me to walk and move as much as I could handle. I found the more i moved the more energy I had. You can only do what you can do but it is important to try.

    jen

  • cbaird99
    cbaird99 Member Posts: 68
    edited March 2015

    I am so happy to see this thread! I work out six days a week and have been at a loss without it waiting to recover from surgery and a seroma issue. Finally this week back in the gym on a lighter workout testing to see where I am strength wise. I stretched a lot and did modified Foundation Training throughout the month so I do have full mobility back at least. I am only giving up swimming during radiation which starts next week as I know that chlorine is not good for the skin, that is my only concession. In fact I have decided that as soon as I can come up with the money, I am going to get my personal trainer cert., and then a cancer exercise specialization cert., and start helping people that need to workout after this crap and don't know how. There is NOTHING that exercise won't help:)) 

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited March 2015

    cbaird, that sounds like a great idea!

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